Explaining aMSa's perfect combo (feat.

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turndownforwalt

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@MeleeMoments
@MeleeMoments Жыл бұрын
thanks for the s/o walt! :) loved the analysis and visuals. the section on the drill interaction with yoshi's DJ armor was especially great!
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you letting me use your short in this! Looking forward to a more formal collab soon!
@thescribe509
@thescribe509 Жыл бұрын
TDFW found Melee Moments, I see.
@DroppedMyMarbles
@DroppedMyMarbles Жыл бұрын
Love that fucking channel so much, it deserves to pop off
@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569
@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 Жыл бұрын
3:37 Editing in Yoshi doing egg lay was a pretty sick edit. Also the having that same Yoshi fading away as the actual match continues was really cool.
@DoomShrm
@DoomShrm Жыл бұрын
Amazing commentary from Drake&Josh Official KZbin Channel
@drinkmug
@drinkmug Жыл бұрын
thanks
@WhoMightThis1Be
@WhoMightThis1Be Жыл бұрын
Blows my mind so hard that he can just react and go "this 3 frame window doesn't have enough combo potential, lets go for the 1 frame window" almost as as much as the fact he actually hit it too
@dddmemaybe
@dddmemaybe Жыл бұрын
He actually has the whole micro sequence in active muscle memory there even though it only works when both players are at very low percent. It's way too fast to raw react, there is a great amount of diligence in the training regiment to be able to have that level of confidence. He very likely isn't thinking about frame windows but, rather that he already has a plan for when both players are low percent in this match-up, and is ready to pull out every possible power move for the situation, regardless of how much training he needs to pull them off.
@Vernias
@Vernias Жыл бұрын
That was a phenomenal breakdown, you're easily one of the greatest Smash creators ever
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@drunkhyperjuice
@drunkhyperjuice Жыл бұрын
i was feeling a little weird about this video until i saw you specifically added melee moments guy. Great video
@playerdreamer181
@playerdreamer181 Жыл бұрын
the fact both Melee moments and Turndownforwalt made a in-depth analysis of this game just shows how perfect the gameplay actually was
@on_certainty
@on_certainty Жыл бұрын
good Melee Moments cameo! was a little bummed when i saw the title at first because of their video, but it's good to know it's with blessing!
@Spoooob
@Spoooob Жыл бұрын
BRO MELEE MOMENTS GOATED. What a cool Collab
@0000-r2b
@0000-r2b Жыл бұрын
Just like the melee community to be the best supporter of the melee community. We love to see it
@Spoooob
@Spoooob Жыл бұрын
@@0000-r2b Melee is so sick. Started watching during 2015 and haven't looked back. Game is hard to play but watching from KZbin is so awesome
@0000-r2b
@0000-r2b Жыл бұрын
I've played it for 20 years and still suck...just so much. It's all fun though. Give it a chance. It'll make pro stuff seem even cooler imo
@Jayluna98
@Jayluna98 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent breakdown of so many things in Melee! Editing was great as well!
@Duffy_SSBM
@Duffy_SSBM Жыл бұрын
This took already high quality analysis and raised it even further. The editing at 3:41 is so cool and feels like legit sports
@DubYuhGChoppa
@DubYuhGChoppa Жыл бұрын
Definitely a good idea to keep pushing this type of content, these videos blow up in the algorithm it seems
@AtomicFire41
@AtomicFire41 Жыл бұрын
We stan aMSa, single handedly moving his main all over the tier lists
@singledigitdan
@singledigitdan Жыл бұрын
common amsa W
@iSShadowzz
@iSShadowzz Жыл бұрын
you aint even watch the whole video yet lmfao
@singledigitdan
@singledigitdan Жыл бұрын
@@iSShadowzz common amsa W
@theclaws1976
@theclaws1976 Жыл бұрын
@@iSShadowzz i finished the video,common amsa W
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
Beeg yoshi
@equu497
@equu497 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I've been out of the melee scene for quite some time, and seeing the incredible editing in this production goes to show just how far everything has come. This is really amazing stuff man, really excited to see more.
@summonerds9706
@summonerds9706 Жыл бұрын
Your editing is so good and really adds value to your breakdowns of these moments
@rubadub15
@rubadub15 Жыл бұрын
Love this format walt. Thank you for your content as always. I love in depth analysis like this
@CYellowan
@CYellowan Жыл бұрын
There is just one aspect that people don't know about. The input queue. This aspect interract extremely well at times with Yoshi, thankfully. Because it is extremely specific to certain move inputs OR jump. The crucial part was that aMSa knew it would work here, thus. But it is a bit more repeatable than what it seems like due to timing the inputs well. Taking nothing away from amsa ofcourse! But once more, Yoshi is better than people think!
@Bones_
@Bones_ Жыл бұрын
So much to say about this video. First I think it's so great hearing such in depth commentary for melee in general because you don't always get play by play commentary during matches let alone at half this level of knowledge (not knocking commentators because the game is so fast and before you can explain most things 10 other things already happened). Also Amsa's option select in the situation just shows how truly insane his level of play is. In a game this fast, he has the awareness in a very short window to both pick the optimal option when what will and won't work is already just separated by one or two frames, but then also executes it perfectly. He has more neurons firing in his brain in one second of gameplay than me watching an entire match trying to follow everything he's doing. And then you have that guest come in to give some extra analysis and ask that we check them out too (and I'm thinking yeah sure who is this?) and it's the amazing Melee Moments who I subbed a few weeks ago after seeing just one immaculate video of theirs. That channel deserves all the extra attention it can get and just like this one really elevates the whole community with amazingly nuanced analysis that efficiently breaks down gameplay that further enhances our enjoyment of the game as well as gives a gateway for newer players to more advanced concepts. It's all done so well that it can be understood and enjoyed by any level of player/viewer.
@sugarhouse8512
@sugarhouse8512 Жыл бұрын
This is by far the most informative and important melee channel. Thank you for all your hard work.
@mrlucius57
@mrlucius57 Жыл бұрын
The depth of this is fucking awesome, seeing the alternate timeline option animated right next to the clip is great
@canadianbaka
@canadianbaka Жыл бұрын
unequivocally the best technical breakdowns around. Really excellent stuff
@compromisedssh
@compromisedssh Жыл бұрын
Your frame data videos are always amazing. Like most Melee people, I have no idea how Yoshi works. This was great.
@jactotum
@jactotum Жыл бұрын
Real excited for melee moments to show off their knowledge. Their one frame link video was a great thing to find in my home page
@ssjayy9103
@ssjayy9103 Жыл бұрын
This production quality is so insane
@skii_mask_
@skii_mask_ Жыл бұрын
hey so uhhhhhhh this is the best fucking melee analysis I've ever seen. please keep doing this, it was AWESOME.
@graemebloodworth8991
@graemebloodworth8991 Жыл бұрын
When I clicked, I thought it was going to be a breakdown of that last parry on Mang0 that lead to the jab reset up air string, but MAN, I loved everymoment of this video. I'm a relatively new melee fan, and I am absolutely enamored with this kind of vid. especially when its about aMSa lol.
@Tundric_Schwolf
@Tundric_Schwolf Жыл бұрын
What a masterfully well done video. The rest of the fgc would kill to have such detailed, well written and edited content ❤
@beszt95
@beszt95 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why this topic seemed so familiar, I had seen the Melee Moments video about it. Really cool to give it some context within the rest of the match though and some further breakdown, good stuff Walt!
@Sasoripwns
@Sasoripwns Жыл бұрын
so proud of soonsay. Alberta is such a fun region to be part of.
@truemanmassat5919
@truemanmassat5919 Жыл бұрын
This editing is insane
@shoobo3548
@shoobo3548 Жыл бұрын
very well edited! loving the video
@quiet_lurker9573
@quiet_lurker9573 Жыл бұрын
Super stoked to see MeleeMoments getting some spotlight. Great vid TDFW!
@saintvong
@saintvong Жыл бұрын
This is the level of concise editing and analysis that will help so many people see why melee is so deep. Amazing work Walt 🤩
@Metroyeti17
@Metroyeti17 Жыл бұрын
Bro your editing has only continued to improve when I thought you had already reached the top two years ago. Love your content, hoping you get a juicy sponsor this year
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
And I remember your comments from those years ago too! Thank you so much for sticking around 😊
@miasma1718
@miasma1718 Жыл бұрын
great vid! i barely have an entry-level understanding of this game so these vids are super interesting
@timma_j
@timma_j Жыл бұрын
This video is so well produced! I love the editing! Are you doing all this by yourself? Edit: just seen in description Kao is editing, still you guys are on fire, great work
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
Yep, they’ve been taking the last few Frame Data videos and they’re killing it!
@EvilApple567
@EvilApple567 Жыл бұрын
Crazy effort and edits
@prizm9515
@prizm9515 Жыл бұрын
I feel like knowing that uptilt was the best option was more impressive than hitting the one frame window.
@thomasstanhouse6224
@thomasstanhouse6224 Жыл бұрын
Great editing
@InauguralGecko2
@InauguralGecko2 Жыл бұрын
Incredible to see the yoshi break down of amsa's incredible run and execution. Definitely a wake up call for the melee community that the game isn't just about knowing top tier matchups, especially with a character as wonky as yoshi. You can see it in commentators watching amsa that are at a loss of words over most of the yoshi tech that amsa has mastered: melee always has more under its skin
@Quoise_
@Quoise_ Жыл бұрын
The double head nod is so cute
@chillarttalks
@chillarttalks Жыл бұрын
absolutely nasty procution GJ! looking forward to more
@oldenoughtowatchify
@oldenoughtowatchify Жыл бұрын
PHRASER DUB BABY MELEE MOMENTS BEST NEW CHANNEL IN SMASH
@identity5481
@identity5481 Жыл бұрын
most underrated channel on youtube
@playerdreamer181
@playerdreamer181 Жыл бұрын
DUDE I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING ELSE, THEN THE "did you miss it?" GOD I GOT SO HYPED UP
@nintendude073
@nintendude073 Жыл бұрын
The moment that truly defined the big house 10 was the last 10 seconds of grand finals. On fd in the last stocks. Amsa paries the firefox and starts a combo and wins. If amsa has not paried it fire fox would have put the yoshi % too high and combod into fox upair and mango resets.
@plasticbudgie
@plasticbudgie Жыл бұрын
8:00 Controller smash is always my favorite tech
@skatan4727
@skatan4727 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. aMSa is an absolute demon
@smackssbm1256
@smackssbm1256 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for crediting me. Glad that wall of text was useful to you.
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
Thanks for writing it! It helped a lot!
@gregoryrothemich6844
@gregoryrothemich6844 Жыл бұрын
My favorite series on this platform easily
@LastxRose
@LastxRose Жыл бұрын
The most technical fighting game ever made. there is no other
@passtheyaoi
@passtheyaoi Жыл бұрын
i remember when the first melee moment video was posted to twitter and amsa explicitly said he didn't know uptilt was a just frame in that scenario in the replies
@bluediemond2089
@bluediemond2089 Жыл бұрын
I loved this so much, as an ult player this is the kind of content that makes me want to pick up melee
@TheOftenElusive
@TheOftenElusive Жыл бұрын
Wish I can give more likes. I'm not in competitive, but I understand this so clearly from the vids, keep up the great work 🔥
@Eiji475
@Eiji475 Жыл бұрын
Amsa is truly incredible. When he said he was gonna level up when he moved to NA he wasn't fucking joking.
@fireemblemaddict128
@fireemblemaddict128 Жыл бұрын
Yoshi is such an anime character. Is clearly not the most gifted character, but has some hidden jutsu that lets him turn the fight instantly
@diddliewinks3486
@diddliewinks3486 Жыл бұрын
i call this the era of premium melee content.
@flashburn117
@flashburn117 Жыл бұрын
3:30 so that's why I was asked for the .slp for this game lol.
@CloutFPS
@CloutFPS Жыл бұрын
BIG COLLAB HUGE W LOVE U BOTH
@brimmed
@brimmed 11 ай бұрын
At this point I've prob seen Amsa win TBH10 in like 10 different videos and each time it makes me tear up
@linkshadow2
@linkshadow2 Жыл бұрын
I thought this would be a M2K vid based on the name 😂 great work!!!
@bobveltman
@bobveltman Жыл бұрын
how well done is this video
@drinkmug
@drinkmug Жыл бұрын
its burnt
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 Жыл бұрын
5:46 wild editing
@coolguyfry293
@coolguyfry293 Жыл бұрын
Great play by play for frame by frame decisions.
@AspectCave
@AspectCave Жыл бұрын
the collab we didn't know we needed
@KirbyGroves
@KirbyGroves Жыл бұрын
incredibly well done video
@lobanaoz7863
@lobanaoz7863 Жыл бұрын
Melee moments x Tdfw lessgooooooo
@MageKirby
@MageKirby Жыл бұрын
wait so is the uptilt 2 frame perfect inputs? One for the tech and one for the uptilt?
@kidcolliermc
@kidcolliermc Жыл бұрын
sick video through and through
@chaoss6
@chaoss6 Жыл бұрын
That was gold content
@DixonYamouf
@DixonYamouf Жыл бұрын
amazing vid, common banger
@vick7848
@vick7848 Жыл бұрын
Thats my goat :') great vid
@donovan2518
@donovan2518 Жыл бұрын
love it walt but would it not be "first ever solo yoshi main"?
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
What
@justanothermanontheinternet
@justanothermanontheinternet Жыл бұрын
Definitely check out MeleeMoments if you liek this type of content. His stuff is really good. Glad walt gave him a bit of limelight.
@lakessbm
@lakessbm Жыл бұрын
Kreygasm for frame data
@CyberXD
@CyberXD Жыл бұрын
This game is crazy lmao
@TheOofaloofa
@TheOofaloofa Жыл бұрын
Crazy how aMSa would have to kill a god in order to make history… with Melee’s most ambiguous, middle-man amphibian.
@ivandeutsch1209
@ivandeutsch1209 Жыл бұрын
amazing vid
@inediblemangoes7797
@inediblemangoes7797 Жыл бұрын
I love the alternate universe yoshis
@igerd4424
@igerd4424 Жыл бұрын
The commentator we need
@MATTierial
@MATTierial Жыл бұрын
aMSa is so impressive!
@redwarrior118
@redwarrior118 Жыл бұрын
Would have been cooler if the music from the original Melee Moments vid was added during his section, woulda had a "new challenger incoming" feel imo, feels empty without it. If it's about copyright then it's cool 🤙
@huskySSBM
@huskySSBM Жыл бұрын
where did you find the .slp files for the tournament? the only 2022 tournament the slippi website has the files for is shine
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
I got them from the TOs
@huskySSBM
@huskySSBM Жыл бұрын
@@turndownforwalt damn, wish they were public
@NeonMyloXyloto
@NeonMyloXyloto Жыл бұрын
Amsa has the best popoff in melee XD
@heepy1
@heepy1 Жыл бұрын
kaiji reference :0
@drinkmug
@drinkmug Жыл бұрын
zawa zawa
@momo_11o9
@momo_11o9 Жыл бұрын
i fuckin love melee man
@djspflytnt
@djspflytnt Жыл бұрын
A bit of an unfortunate coincidence that you and Phraser both had the same idea, but just goes to show how special this moment was
@Femi9robin
@Femi9robin Жыл бұрын
what is the song in the opening?
@samsr2887
@samsr2887 Жыл бұрын
See you soonsay
@NeonMyloXyloto
@NeonMyloXyloto Жыл бұрын
Hey did I play you on unranked a few days ago? Person with your tag was playing Mario
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
Probably was me!
@yung6455
@yung6455 Жыл бұрын
what's the intro song
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
Darude sandstorm
@IKEA_SSB
@IKEA_SSB Жыл бұрын
THERES SLIPPI FILES FOR BIG HOUSE???
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
@cIiffe
@cIiffe Жыл бұрын
you’re the best melee content creator the game has ever seen. extremely grateful for you man.
@simanolastname2399
@simanolastname2399 Жыл бұрын
Along with AsumSaus, of course.
@goldsage4722
@goldsage4722 Жыл бұрын
​@@simanolastname2399 asumsaus is the true goat
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that a lot, thank you so much 🥹
@Oogs777
@Oogs777 Жыл бұрын
holy shit amsa
@dunK1x
@dunK1x Жыл бұрын
Amsa the goat fr
@hounvs
@hounvs Жыл бұрын
You specifically mentioned his depth of knowledge but aMSa said in Twitter that he didn't know it was 1 frame lol Obviously he knows a ton, as shown in the other clips. I just thought it was funny.
@anhan7316
@anhan7316 Жыл бұрын
What are the 4 parts of double jump armor?? Can anyone explain lol
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Жыл бұрын
The thread is linked in the description now!
@smackssbm1256
@smackssbm1256 Жыл бұрын
To put it very succinctly, since Yoshi's armour 'ignores' anything below 120 kb, you can tank most moves at low-mid % and keep DJing, or counterhit. That's the first stage. When a move just barely breaks armour (say 125 knockback), Yoshi takes so little knockback (5 here) that for a short while he can still counterhit almost immediately. Past a certain point, he starts taking more kb and won't be able to counterhit, and is at risk of another move comboing. Defensive options are usually better here (sdi, fastfall, airdodge, ...). Anything beyond 200kb sends Yoshi into tumble, counterhitting is 100 % impossible, Yoshi is sweating. Those are the four stages that apply to most moves. Some set kb moves never break armour so you're stuck in stage 1. Others break armour at 0% so go straight to stage 2. That's the general dynamic, and why I call it 'the four stages of Yoshi armour'. It's also why knowing the % where armour reaches different thresholds is important as or vs Yoshi. % matter perhaps more so than in most matchups, even at high-level where punish game is so strong that % isn't as big a deal in a way.
@anhan7316
@anhan7316 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@yogurtclosetok
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