Explaining Ancient India

[@LakshyaGunjan]

Lots of corrections. 1.The Indo-Greek invasion of North India happens only after the Mauryans have already collapsed the person who beat them back was a Brahman King and the founder of Shunga Dynasty. 2. Mauryans were not Buddhists. They started out as a Hindu Kingdom under Chandragupta and and converted to Buddhism under Ashoka. 3.The practice of Sati and widow burning has been exaggerated and this has been stated previously by the governor general of British India himself who said it was a niche practice among warrior class woman in Bengal and Rajputana. 4. Several lower castes Like Jats and Marathas were able to form their kingdom during the collapse of the mughal empire. 5. Genetic evidence shows that the caste system was probably fully crystallized by 500 bce since to maintain the level of steppe ancestry a Brahmin and Dalit has (North Indian brahmins have around 28% steppe ancestry compared to 8% for dalits) there needed to have 99% in-group marriages. 6. The Gupta empire is when most of modern hinduism was codified as mahabharatas Ramayana and upanishas were written down. To understand the downfall of buddhism in India watch this video, It summarizes the entire situation much better than me. The downfall of Buddhism was mostly a result of Buddhist monks being happy with being treated as Upper castes by Hindu Nobility and losing philosiphical battles. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2mqf5qNltmIracsi=ZroV3q-p5ofo-1ds

[@narutouzumaki2157]

1, shunga failed and only saved the magadhan core of the mauryan empire. 2, Chandragupta was jaina, and most likely bindusara too, and ashoka was a buddist., there was no unified dharma before sramana sects became huge, before that everyone had their own dharma which was only unified by sramana munis converting other castes and forming a unified dharma for all members. hinduism was fully formed after adi Shankaracharya. 3. It was still expected from widowed women. 4.yes, then they claimed they are kshatriya. Castism is ingrained that much in the Indian mind. 5. May have started by brahmans around 500bc, but fully ingrained in society by 100bc to 100 ad. 6.yes Gupta Empire is quintessential hindu rashtra, the first hindurashtra, before that there were just various clans and tribes of different religions and no unified dharama(of *hindus*/ shramana sects formed unified dharama before hinduism came about). 7. Buddhism fell because it confused detachment from inaction, which was later rectified in hinduism, (geeta, nishkaam kaam karo- krishna).

[@Cupcake0228]

​@@narutouzumaki2157 1. You are correct that the Shunga Dynasty primarily held onto the Magadhan core of the Mauryan Empire and struggled to maintain the larger territory. This indicates that while Pushyamitra Shunga repelled certain invasions, his control was limited to a smaller region. 2.Chandragupta Maurya is believed to have embraced Jainism later in his life. Bindusara’s religious affiliation is less clear, but he is often associated with Ajivika, a sect contemporary to Jainism and Buddhism. Ashoka converted to Buddhism after the Kalinga War and became a significant proponent of the religion. The idea of a unified "dharma" evolved over time, significantly influenced by the teachings of Jainism and Buddhism. Adi Shankaracharya’s later work was crucial in consolidating various Hindu philosophical traditions 3. The practice of Sati was indeed expected in some communities, particularly among the Rajput and certain warrior classes. However, its prevalence varied and was not uniform across all regions or social classes. Like marathas Matriarchy played were imp role in their kingdom even after death of their husbands 4 during the coronation of maratha king shivaji maharaj there was initial resistance from some Brahmin priests due to his family's status, but this was overcome. Eventually, he was coronated by Pandit Gaga Bhatt, who declared Shivaji a Kshatriya after tracing his lineage to the Sisodia Rajput clan of Mewar. 5. The caste system's development began around 500 BCE and became more rigid over the subsequent centuries, with genetic evidence supporting significant endogamy by around 100 BCE to 100 AD. 7.Buddhism's decline in India was due to multiple factors. While philosophical differences, such as the interpretation of detachment versus inaction, played a role, other factors included internal decay, loss of royal patronage, and the integration of Buddhist practices into emerging Hindu traditions. The rise of Bhakti movements and the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita, emphasizing action and devotion, also attracted many followers.

[@adisj5696]

This isnt even all of the corrections. You hardly scratch the surface of correcting him.

[@hyperboloid-g7q]

He's clueless about India sadly

[@xmariokiler2443]

Bro I am soo clueless

[@anonuser9155]

As an Indian dude, I’m loving all the corrections lmao. Great work rudyard. Not a lot of people get India.

[@paragduhan5120]

He is wrong in almost all aspects

[@Canario_27]

Ruydard: they were conquered by the arians The voice in my head: “Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And onto this, Conan, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!”

[@SolarDragon007]

WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?

[@DarthHoosier3038]

Where is that line from? Very poetic. 📝

[@SolarDragon007]

@DarthHoosier3038 It's from the movie "Conan the Barbarian" from 1982.

[@islambale747]

You got me hooked.

[@DarthHoosier3038]

@@SolarDragon007 cool thanks

[@deepanshubaanta]

SOME INSIGHTFUL ADDITIONS -> The cast system was very much responsible for weaker Indian militaries during the Islamic invasion as Casts were ridges and if a kingdom lost most of it's army men in a battle, it took some time to fill that human resource as recruiting people from the different cast was not an options, and farmers and traders world often not participate in battles and would rather pay taxes to the new king. -> The lack of supply of men to the Indian ruling cast in the north-west(where most of the initial battles happened) was resolved by the priests(Brhamans) as the Brahamans lost most of the benefits under the Islamic kings so the Brahamans encouraged people of other casts to transition to warriors casts(adopting new customs and non-vig diet). One such event was called the "AgniKula" where a lot of people belonging to the farming cast became Kshatriyas(warriors casts) my ancestors being one of them but they switched back to farming later on. -> Untouchables were not always poor as depicted by (Christian Western historians), people from Lowe casts had monopolies just like small businesses because no one else in the village was allowed to do their work, so they were not poor but they were discriminated against. especially in the Ancient Indian context. This is even true today where a person from lower cast eg. a barber makes the same money as a farmer in some villages because the guy has complete monopoly over the business and it's protected by the system. -> Joining the Ruling cast became undesirable especially as the number of battles increased and more and more people from those casts started losing their lives, people from other merchant cast would rather opt to pay higher Islamic tax(jizyah) rather than lose their lives. To counter this the Brahmans started to promote things like Honour, sex and materialistic benefits that came with the power of rule and temples and texts promoting these things became popular. ->Cow dung is not holy in India it's used as fuel for burning instead of wood in the regions that don't have dense forests predominantly the north-west(i am from there). Also, nobody eats cow dung it was THE most ignorant comment by you, like literally wtf! -> Cow urine was used as a medical ingredient in Old Ayurveda just like how the Chinese used all sorts of weird things, how the Arabs used camel urine(sahih al-bukhari 5686) and how the Christians had some ridiculous treatments for diseases, eg dust water abortion( Bible Gateway passage: Numbers 5:11-31 - New International Version ).

[@WhatifAltHist]

Thanks for this. Notes

[@sainathb3149]

👏👏👏👏

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

Well, you may not eat the dung but I've seen the pictures of the festival where you roll in it shirtless. What can you tell me about this practice?

[@santhoshkrishna463]

@@WhatifAltHist YOU ARE a RETARD the muslims couldn't conquer india easily the first invasion began all the way during Ummayad period when most of europe and all of Iran fell and got Humiliated by arabs the Indian hindu empires decimated the said Muslim armies in the Battle of Rajasthan under Nagabhatta the Rashtrakutas had Naval domination of the entire Ocean in the Arabean sea and Slaughtered arab Naval expeditions the Rashtrakutas also allowed many muslim merchants to trade they where considered bENEVOLENT bY THE muslime Themselves not ARROGANT at all the only instance of such BULLSHIT propoganda Comes from Al-beruni who ONLY SPOKE to 1 or some BRAHMINS and came to the conclusion which is noting but EXAGGERATION at it's finest

[@user-wj9si6wu8n]

I must say the host has gotten much much better at asking questions. Cheers!!

[@yux.tn.3641]

this is a topic that literally no one knows about (except Indians)

[@TheBlindingStorm]

17:55: You say varna when you mean Vaisha. Varna is the Sanskrit/Hindi term for what we call caste in English.

[@yanx4797]

Small correction: The Corded ware was responsible for the vast majority of the Indo-European expansion, not directly the Yamnayans.

[@AndreiCostache-kh9mv]

Not the Andronovo?

[@danmoritz3319]

You are showing you don't understand who they were+ Yamnaya autosomal characteristics are very close to the Corded Ware culture people, with up to 75% Yamnaya-like ancestry in the DNA of Corded Ware skeletons from Central and Eastern Europe. They were the same people or very close cousins.

[@Hotasianchick]

​@@danmoritz3319 Corded ware and Sinthastha are merely cousins, not descendants of one another. And they all originate in Armenia anyway, don't know why that piece of modern evidence gets thrown out of the window when talking about the Indo-Europeans

[@snehasishpandathreesixzero121]

No this whole hypothesis is wrong bro the indus valley was already indo aryan or indo european before the corded ware descendant arrived

[@danmoritz3319]

@@snehasishpandathreesixzero121 - No, it's not wrong, not a hypothesis. There are historical records from contemporary ancient Egypt. An Egyptian and a Scythian were having an argument about which ethnicity was actually older. The Egyptian, finally conceded that the Scythian culture really was more ancient. True story. It's in an ancient Egyptian text of several millennia ago. It's not a jab, it's a sad statement of the faulty, maybe intentionally faulty, education system. Most don't know the true, primary veins, of real history, especially pre-Greco Roman history.

[@sno4439]

This is the first time I have watched one of your videos. I must admit, as a lifetime lover of history, I am very impressed.

[@sharathnirmala2248]

The reason for the absence of a lot of written history was due to the destruction of the Indian universities. They were spread out all over the subcontinent and hosted many international students. Throughout history, they were destroyed and rebuilt by many invaders, the most famous of which is Nalanda was destroyed thrice but rebuilt only twice, the last time it was destroyed comepletely by the Islamic conquerors. The scale of the destruction was written down by a Persian writer who happened to be in India at the time to be something like three months of continuous fires from the destroyed area and 9 million books were lost. There is also the oral tradition of memorizing sacred hindu texts like the vedas and upanishads which managed to preserve these religious texts to some degree. Another thing to consider is that these texts were written on materials like palm leaves which don't bode well for their preservation in the hot and humid climate of India. A lot of the stupas and edicts from the Mauryan time and even before can still be found to this day throughout the subcontinent, even in Afghanistan but the Taliban and ISIS-K in the region are destroying many of these historic monuments. These are the reasons thay I find the argument that we Indians were against writing due to the belief that the world is an illusion to be quite weak, sure the effort to defend and preserve these documents might be lacking but most of it has been destroyed or just lost to time. The Universities were the institutions responsible for preserving these texts. Most of the early islamic conquerors had little value for these texts and institutions and destroyed them as they believed it was a way to display their dominance over polytheist pagans. Of course some of the later muslim rulers, most poplular being the Mughal ruler Akbar had some of the surviving texts translated and was interested in the the literature of the subcontinent, but they were a few out of many. Other civilizations were much more fortunate when it comes to their historical record: the greeks culture and traditions were modified and continued by the romans; mesopotamians wrote on clay tablets and their environment was hot and dry; Egyptians wrote on both papyrus while also painting hieroglyphs on their architecture, lived in a hot and dry climate, conquering romans didn't supress the culture and the muslims who came much later didn't find most of these ancient monuments and burial sites, the british did; the Chinese civilization did exist in hot and humid conditions but their conquerors like the Mongols didn't go after Chinese culture but mostly integrated into it, becoming the Yuan dynasty. This is the reason (kind of understandable) the hindu nationalists have such disdain towards all the islamic conquerors as most of them didn't integrate into hindu society and restore these destroyed institutions which was unlike the invaders who camer before, they adopted the local customs, and traditions.

[@Harsh98765-n]

Don't put entire blame on invaders.Most of the history is lost because of rote learning in India.So don't put the blame of inefficiency of Brahman ancestors on invders

[@esbensheep454]

I've been waiting for an episode explaining India, really helpful

[@sharangandsharvari]

Hello Rudyard Indian man here. I partially agree with a lot of what you have said here. To annswer your question - Adi Shankaracharya was a person who is said to have played a vital role in Hindu revival againt Buddhism. Also, Bhagwat Geeta is actually full of practical philosophical knowlegde. This makes it distict. Also, to the point of caste- there are two different systems. There is Varna - this is caste by profession and is NOT INHERITED FROM FATHER TO SON. This is the system one can find within the Bhagwad Geeta (sacred hindu text). When this system became hereditary, it led to the evil modern day caste system, which I also feel did tremendous harm to my civilization. Love from India.

[@LivingStories-fd5gc]

Indian here, the important figure you missed is adi shankacharya who basically reformed Hinduism by incorporating the Buddhist principles. Another cool fact is that Buddha himself took a lot of things from the Upanishads to create his creed so Hindus are not entirely wrong when they say Buddhism is a sub sect of Hinduism. I would have liked shedding more light on the Upanishads and Vedanta since they are really the highest peak of Indian culture and philosophy.

[@Sun-Surya7]

Ya he also can be credited for a lot of things that Sanatani are doing today like in philosophy, temples and more as well. Kind of weird that he talks about Buddhism history in the Indian Subcontinent but don't know about him.

[@narutouzumaki2157]

Before the sramana sects, there was no unified dharama, everyone had different dharma, it could be called proto hinduism, Upanishads were fully codified in the Gupta Empire, 500 years after buddha, Upanishads also took things from shramana sects(there were many buddhas and many tirthankaras before Siddharth and rishabha) , and buddha rejected the vedas and parabrahm(instead he promotes shunyatawad), saying Buddhism is a subset of hinduism is like saying islam is a subset of Christianity. Adi Shankaracharya took unified dharma, interdependence (Advaitavaad) from buddhist sects and unified vaishnava, shaiva and shakti sets.

[@ZontarDow]

The castes being different ethnic groups is an understatement, people of different caste from the same village are futher genetically then Italians and Norwegians.

[@SafavidAfsharid3197]

Thats actually false lol.

[@yanx4797]

I think ethnic groups are not entirely determined by genetics

[@kumarg3598]

​@SafavidAfsharid3197 it's a bit of both. Obviously less now but 200 years ago.....

[@pierren___]

​@@SafavidAfsharid3197 cope

[@bhaskarbose9706]

That's absolute bullshit.. plz do ur research before making these statements.

[@Sachin-nu7bj]

You are missing shankaracharya and Gupta empire

[@Pumbarumba]

He is trying to create conclusive narrative out of limited knowledge he have of india. His knowledge about india is not all wrong but very limited so narrative is also very vague and highly misleading.

[@vbag4205]

This is about ancient india from 3000bc to 0 AD

[@santhoshkrishna463]

@@Pumbarumba His knowledge about india is completely wrong and BULLSHIT the sentence of telling indians where more into religion and their history texts should be taken with a grain of salt is outright ARROGANT AND NARCISSISTIC the rashtrakutas, Pallavas and many indian empires left comprehensible Historic inscriptions this guy comes and takes his conclusion from racist 19th century BOOKS another BULLSHIT is that the indians became somehow arrogant when in reality the Rashtrakutas, Pallavas, Pala empire of bengal And CHOLAS had extensive trade with other Indianized empires like tibetan empire that sent it's people to study in Pala universities and Sharada peethe under the Karkota dynasty the cholas established Entire trade guilds and Dominated south east asia and the Indian ocean they established Hindu colonies in chinese provinces their Military was advanced and even the song Accepted their superiority when Muslim invaded india they had to fight Multiple dynasties of chahamanas, and chauhans who defeated Baharam shah and Even slaughtered Turks as seen in chauhans king Vigraharajas inscription this guy is an ABSOLUTE retard in Indian history 100%

[@gocool_2.0]

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[@TheGreenKnight500]

We're getting out of samsara with this one, boys!

[@zoidberg444]

Hello sir. I am calling from the bank of Punjab. There is a problem with your account please give me your bank details. 😂

[@alex.mcintosh]

Great video. Finally figured out your comp. Dwight from The Office but History focused. 😂

[@mowgli5837]

Rudyard is very hardworking in a sence that he studies a hell lot. And yet, I could tell 100 facts that would have made his understanding better on this topic.

[@YogGroove]

Love this.... please do more on India and the East

[@michaelmoore4269]

Could you do an episode on the 30 Years War and its related conflicts?

[@pumplove81]

i actually enjoyed this take and am not a hindu-nationalist ( inspite of being a Hindu ) ..its a good perspective on how India keeps losing track of the real deal and then reverts to the mean .. one important historical figure u missed is Ashoka ( Chandragupta's grandson ) who single handedly started indian recordings via stone edicts .. no written records older than that for such an ancient civilization ( with the exception of the indus valley "script", if u can call it that )

[@santhoshkrishna463]

there are many inscriptions like the rashtrakutas, cholas and Vijayanagaras and satvahannas the idea of Indians not recording history and somehow mixed mythology is Biased and Half truth which should be taken with a pinch of salt especially when Idiots like Whatifalthist who is half brained and only reads 19th century propoganda pieces try to spread the same BULLSHIT narrative indian history has changed and we have found many inscriptions of great emperors

[@timskza]

I do like the intent behind how you explain history, but I think you oversimplify, make up claims, and rely on debunked myths. Indians do not worship cow poop at large lol, they did keep history but it was often destroyed (tropical environmental decay/war), and things such as Sati were not as widespread as you think. Your explanations on why they do the aforementioned things were really just your best guess, not factual. You fall back on western historical stereotypes to back up your arguments, rather than real data. Saying the worst thing the British did was starve Indians is a claim that would make most historians laugh. Love your lens which forces me to think differently, but I just find a lot of it to be assumptive/poorly executed.

[@vexed5567]

Does anyone know a good book or place to read more about how coins reshaped societal relations?

[@History102-qg5oj]

Debt by David Grabber

[@vexed5567]

@@History102-qg5oj ty

[@RockawayCCW]

@@History102-qg5oj Do you have a book list available to the public?

[@nissar_fasil]

"நாங்கள் இந்தியர்கள் ஐரிஷ் அல்லது பிரிட்டிஷ் என்ற வித்தியாசத்தைப் பெரும்பாலும் அறியமாட்டோம். ஆனால் ஒரு ஐரிஷ் நபர் இந்திய வரலாற்றைப் விரிவாகப் பேசுவது மிகவும் வியக்கத்தக்கது. ஆனால் இந்தியாவின் புலரிசம் பற்றி பேசாமல் கடந்து போவது வருத்தமாகவே உள்ளது."

[@dingbat999]

what an incredible video thank you for taking the time out of your day to make this means a lot to many many people❤

[@GeMk.I]

I love the work that you did mate. All the points you put out were quite right imo, as an Indian. As a suggestion, I'd recommend the works of Zareer Masani. He'd offer you a lot more insight on modern India at least.

[@GeMk.I]

Also, I'd love to see a video about the origins of current Indian political ideology. There's been a statement bandied around that india never really had a right-wing, which is why I'd want a video like that.

[@khanshiranyor3974]

Looking forward to the un-biased and good natured discussions in the comment section.

[@TheGreenKnight500]

Hi, I'm unbiased and good natured. AMA

[@santhoshkrishna463]

This guy is An flat put Idiot

[@Rocknrolldaddy81-xy8ur]

This is a great video for me. My home town has the largest Indian population in the West. This helps me understand my neighborhood much better, thank you.

[@awesomestevie27]

Will you ever learn about and make a video about Sikh History, it’s extremely interesting and new Guru Nanak was born almost 555 years ago and the Khalsa was established only 325 years ago They were very different from the Hindus, no polytheism invaded their neighbors got annexed by Britain 100 years after India after their civil war between gov and military etc

[@chandanaprasanna2443]

I think the island today we call Sri Lanka has played a important part in Indian politics throughout the history, as it is today. Sri Lankan Buddhist believe that Mayuryan Empire Ashoka sent his own son and daughter (both Buddhist monks) to bring Buddhism to Sri Lanka. That claim seems to have played significant role in deciding the politics of Sri Lanka throughout the history, as it is today. The Buddhist kingdom of Anuradhapura has controlled the important navel ports in this Island which is located in a strategically important location for Arabian and Chinese sailors.

[@RockawayCCW]

what is the book at 3:30 ? I can't find it on google or amazon. edit: Found it! The guy's name is Amaury de Riencourt

[@pankajsinha385]

I think this was a good video, although it could have included more information. I understand that explaining such a complex topic is difficult. Additionally, much of the history we read, especially from the 18th and 19th centuries, shouldn't be taken at face value. The writers of that era often had a superiority complex, which, while not of particular concern to me personally, introduces bias into their perspectives. This bias can distort our understanding of the past. Acknowledging this doesn't make one a Hindu nationalist, though I’ve noticed you sometimes use that term rather loosely. I just want to remind you that no one can truly know what happened in history, and it’s reasonable to be skeptical of historical narratives, given how they’ve often been shaped to serve different agendas-on all sides. Regarding the conflict with Buddhism, sources suggest that it was Adi Shankara who advocated Advaita Vedanta, a non-dualist interpretation of Brahman and the entities within it. However, we should recognize that this could also be a constructed narrative, and we cannot be entirely certain of its accuracy. In ancient India, there seemed to be a perception that life is ever-changing, making it difficult to capture history accurately. Thus, philosophy was often intertwined with historical accounts to provide a timeless element, which has its pros and cons. When it comes to the caste system, I believe the philosophy of life was highly developed but personal, requiring individual interpretation. Its complexity led to contradictions, particularly the belief that one’s suffering was due to past life karma, absolving society of responsibility. This idea became disastrous when perpetuated for thousands of years. As for Islam and British colonialism, I think Islam had a positive impact on India. It acted like an virus that eventually made the country stronger, helping to eliminate some of the decaying aspects of society. Regarding the British, their influence provided contact with a new culture and methods of scientific method, though the method was far from ideal. Economically, India was drained more by British rule than by Islamic rule, primarily due to mercantile policies. Nevertheless, both Islam and the British have given modern India an edge in understanding diverse cultures. I think India is the country that has been most successful at assimilating Islam, I cannot imagine Europe or US or China having similar percentage and amount of Muslims and not having a civil war, if you don't understand this you don't truly understand India.

[@Maytrx]

"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word." - Operation: Knightfall "Knightfall" - Star Wars Battlefront II (2005)

[@thegunslinger8806]

Ah yes, back when the lore actually understood that nuance and not inhibitor chips were far more interesting and logical.

[@orboakin8074]

I have got to play this game! Glad I bought the original versions on steam recently

[@Maytrx]

@@orboakin8074 "Watch those wrist rockets!"

[@orboakin8074]

@@Maytrx 🤣

[@orboakin8074]

@@thegunslinger8806 basically before disney bought and ruined Star Wars😔

[@saisameer8771]

I'd encourage people to read the "Kama Sutra". Contrary to the popular belief, it's actually a book about wordly pleasures and the material world in general, sex only being a small part. The book is all about how to indulge in pleasurable activities, how to decorate your house, how to dress in a dignified manner etc. It's even got a long list of skills that women should learn in case they get separated from their husband for any reason.

[@marijn29m37]

nice background while playing civ 5 :D

[@oraz.]

Isn't there losts of recorded text from the vedic period, so pre 1000ad even before 0ad and well into bce?

[@markmayonnaise1163]

Indians didn't have writing before ~400 BC. Everything was memorized through rote, an expensive and difficult process. We also have very few of the earliest texts because India's humid climate doesn't preserve paper very well. Any manuscript that didn't make it to writing and that wasn't continually reproduced up to the modern period is gone.

[@camerincaraballo6413]

If you ever visit home and you like driving I recommend going to the Hindu temple in Robinsville NJ. The architecture and sculpture masterwork there is profound

[@ryanc970]

Rudyard, after your tweet from the other day I am now eagerly awaiting your book on world history 😁

[@History102-qg5oj]

Fr fr no cap. Straight busing

[@theredknight9314]

@@History102-qg5oj😂

[@Menaceblue3]

​@@History102-qg5oj Please don't talk like that or else I'll be unsubscribing.... You wouldn't want me to do that would you?

[@Maytrx]

@@Menaceblue3 LOL LOL

[@madzkev3100]

​@@Menaceblue3🤣

[@Deliciasdelahumanity]

have you read Ramayan?

[@user-dd3lw2pq9v]

India has a well-documented history that extends far before 1000 BC, supported by archaeological findings, ancient texts, and oral traditions. The philosophical idea that the world is an illusion did not preclude the recording of historical events and cultural achievements. The absence of a modern historical narrative in some periods can be attributed more to the forms of record-keeping and preservation challenges rather than a fundamental disinterest in history.

[@abrahamcollier]

I vote for rise of Islam next week, especially considering how much the traditional narrative often leaves out, including the role of Christianity in the pre-Islamic world and in the rise of Mohamed, as well as various theories about the true location of Mecca, the authorship of the Quran, the religion of the early caliphates, etc!

[@perniciousseizurehellio3438]

Most of theories are by people who have an agenda and they have very little backing

[@perniciousseizurehellio3438]

Hope he makes an Islam video!

[@felixh5748]

Hoping for Islam or Japan, maybe Assyria

[@pleasework2092]

Hello Rudyard, Been looking for histories on Ancient India, I saw your twitter post on your recommendations. Please tell me about the books which you read that were disingenuous, which you described as Hindu Propaganda. Thank You and Have a nice day

[@khanshiranyor3974]

He once called one of Shashi Tharoor's work as nationalist. I know there are people who are pushing their agenda by claiming false things but I still won't believe this guy all the time.

[@mowgli5837]

What did you mean by point 11 at 6:06 ? The assymetric family structure I mean

[@S.J.L]

Do the Scythians. I work with nothing but Punjabis. Many are arrogant and deluded but I like them. I've also heard claims that all Caucasian people are just Albino Indians...many have a inferiority/superiority complex due to British rule among other things. Much of the accomplishments of Islams must be veiwed through Islam being a blanket over an earlier great civilization, the Persians and to some degree the others in the region that preceeded Islam, in the same way the accomplishments of Europe are not mainly due to Christianity but in spite of it. Aristotle was not a Christian and he had already set most Western accomplishments into motion. Similarly there were already great civilizations all across Europe, with great cultures, similar to the Hindus, long before Jesus was turning water to wine, etc. Christianity just became a big corporation that claimed credit for what was already there, same with Islam.

[@khanshiranyor3974]

Arrogant Punjabis? Well, that's new.

[@Hotasianchick]

Punjabis and claiming to be white for whatever reason, tale as old as time. It's weird because I'm a pale skinned Bengali who grew up amongst a lot of Punjabis, they thought I wasn't Bengali because of my skin colour. The hysteria with skin in this country is pretty hilarious when you realise how mixed everyone is, especially considering I have extended family who are blacker than coal and also plenty of people who are different shades of brown.

[@feliciaf8]

still a great factor what makes the west are great, greco-roman legacy, european people and Christianity. if one of these factors are removed, then we wont have the western civ we have now

[@Sun-Surya7]

A lot of things have been said here some are true while others are plane untrue/ non factual. I don't have the time to go over all the points but here are few of them. 1. About writing things down - They did even though majority of it was destroyed in the destruction of the Universities. The ones that survived were passed on in the forms of Puranas or other religious text which talks about lineages of Kings and surprise surprise they talk about Chandragupta Maurya and his decedents. Historians when they first learned about this empire they didn't know about his and Ashok's relationship but these text helped them not only Ashok but even his line till the Empire came to an end. Also about them about not mentioning alexander yes they don't mention him but they talk a lot about his general Seleucus and how he was defeated and gave his Eastern part of this Empire to Chandragupta Maurya. Maurya's wrote in pillars and spread them throughout their Empire and in many of these pillars were laws that would be written for people to read which even exists today, imagine metal pillars lasting 2000+ years. 2. British - There are a lot of this that can be said about them but here are some first you're write they didn't provide any food which resulted in millions of deaths and many got saved since they left direct British controlled areas to that of Princely states where the local Kings gave them food and shelters. The British also deliberately didn't allow the world to know about how big the famines actually were since the PRESS were not allowed to even do their job. Also like what you had said that Indians did have Universities a lot of which allowed for native educations but many of the Universities were destroyed by Turks but the native educations still went on which was seen as a threat and destroyed by the British, read about what Macaulay learned while his research on Indian native education system and what lengths he went to replace it with English. 3. Cast System - I'll give you the example of the person you brought up in the video to disprove it, Chandragupta Maurya, was an Shudra and he was helped by Chanakya a Brahmin to become the Emperor not only that but the previous King of Eastern India was also a low cast which some Modern historians credit his kingdom of adding fear to alexander's army to return. Also with this and the Britsh, Dr. Ambedkar, a low cast person who when on to get education and fought against cast system in British India gives credit to cast system not being with Vedas or Hinduism but of British. Also if you look at the census of the Princes/Kings of India under the British they you would see like more then 70% of them belonging to the "Low Cast". 4. Women - atleast the second half of the video is completely wrong like Women can Remarry like it's even in the Rigveda 10.18.8, which is opposite of sati which is also the reason why there were only handful of cases and in those cases the family member like her son would stop them from doing it. About them not owning properties is also false since both sons and daughters were given those properties good examples is when british were on the conquest of India their allies when the king didn't have any sons and the daughters were brought to inherit the kingdoms the British would deny it saying it they don't allow women to inherit anything from her father thus forcefully turning it into their colonies Example like Rani Lakshmi Bai. 5. Greeks - the reason they wouldn't have written anything about Alexander might be that in Indian context he really didn't do much since he just came to western parts, fought some weak chieftains and left. Porus and his kingdom isn't even considered that much strong compare to the 16 Great Republics. And Alexander had one of his most difficult battle against one of the weakest Indian Kings so it doesn't say much about him. But his general Seleucus is mention since he actually fought Chandragupta Maurya who was much stronger then Porus and he defeated the Nandas who are believed to have scared Alexander's army. About Gecro-Indians, they did came by defeting a lot of Indians kings but they were stopped by a Brahmin King Pushyamitra Sunga and by the time of the Kushan Empire all the Greeks and their traces would be destroyed and be left with Hindu/Buddhist. These are just few things that I caught but there are more like about the discoveries that they made on medicine, science, math, and more before 0AD as well as in trade but that's for more medieval time but I only had time for just these.

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

One ancient case of higher caste turning lower to royalty doesn't disprove the entire system for the entirety of time, and even if today thanks to westernization caste system is abolished people, especially in rural areas and the south, still live by it. And yes, it does say a lot about Alexander because his army came from curbstomping Persia and through Afghanistan AND they were already tired and rebelling against him, so it doesn't "not say much about him" but he was already at the tail end of his forces anyway.

[@Sun-Surya7]

@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd Firstly, if you know about "cast system" then you would have known that no matter the time ONE CAN NOT CHANGE his/her CAST that's the whole Premise that the "Upper Cast" people will stop anyone from "Low Cast" from ever going up in the system. If you had read more then you've seen there were others as well like the Nanda Empire which many historians credit for putting fear in alexander's army to rebel. They are from "low cast" and they were like 10x time stronger than Porus, who gave alexander one if the the most difficult battle in his life. Brahmin King Pushyamitra Sunga went down in the "cast system" from a priest to a king. There were even more and by the time of the british there were like 75%+ of ALL the INDIAN KINGS were from "LOW CAST". Secondly, Persia of Alexander's time was much weaker, where they recruited Farmers to fight him not only that if Alexander had came later in time then Egypt would have already broken apart from them. When he finally reached Indian border he fought an bordering king Porus, who wasn't even counted in the 16 great Republics, who were the strongest in the Indian Subcontinent and alexander had one of his most difficult battle. After this battle he know there were going to be more like Porus and Even Stronger so he left and never returned. This already tells us how strong he was and how he deals with strong kingdoms. In this eyes of the Indians, he conquered some weak kingdoms but when he started facing real strong kingdoms he ran away, he couldn't even make it to the Ganga river.

[@kalloop5526]

Can you do a history of the Punjab with regards to conflict with the Muslims and the rise of Sikhism? Sikhism has always fascinated me

[@scottjackson4558]

Is there a bibliography we could see?

[@AdamCrowe-b6m]

This msn is not afraid to sit in judgement of peoples.... im alittle sketchy on hearing a historian say who "deserved" what. Facts are subject to interpretation...and you are clearly a scholar... but gaw damn fella! Bless ye

[@samham2843]

58:15 whats the name of the site he mentioned?

[@bevbevan6189]

Alibris

[@samham2843]

@@bevbevan6189 thanks

[@yux.tn.3641]

37:54 i believe this part, apparently Buddhist statues in China had a change in its decorations/the way it's made and apparently this was from Bactria?

[@AlexHouxley]

I am a Gen Z Indian, and I will thank you for your attempt at an unbiased and honest explanation of this part of the world. I totally agree with the fact that the British were a necessary net positive, to the country. For example, in my great grandparents time, there was no norm of counting age of people, neither was there any literacy. India, certainly wasn't the half barbarous shithole, colonial histories somewhat make it up to be, but it was also not a society ready for the modernity. British rule was necessary to open it up.

[@NEIL333-bv7nd]

I disagree the only net positive I think the British did was unifying indians under a common identity which was a result of common struggle against British Empire other than that we were very much capable of figuring out pretty much everything else for sure

[@Dheeraj-y4f]

even iam a gen z indian , i totally disagree your opinion, british india was surely a dark age to the subcontinent.

[@mod3353]

Man you need to read some books , there is no way it was positive at all. You’d would have been a good Uncle Tom !

[@Cupcake0228]

I sometimes wonder that gen Z Indians have lost their ability to think for themselves that what is wrong and right and base their opinion on a video which is so full of inaccuracy maybe you should open up your view of world to know more about India to see if it could have adapted to new world rather than agreeing that britishers were somehow good to us

[@sathi6320]

you said that before 1000AD there are no records of history in India. Do you mean by this statement that the Rig Veda cannot be attributed to history prior to 1000 AD since it is stated to be around 1500 to 1300 BC. I cant follow what you mean by "records of history". You missed out the standardised fired bricks in IVC. which took them 700 years to make the shift from sun-dried bricks to fired bricks. They measured in ratio of 4:2:1 vis-a-vis length, breath and width All of their bricks were identical for each city but may have varied a tiny bit in respect of where those bricks were used within that particular city and lasted - going by western carbon dating- for 5300 years. Anyway, you were right on that point of Aryans whether Yamnaya or whatever whatever invading and conquering North India. And also that good old Alex conquered the Northwestern India-thank you for that. Best wishes.

[@npg7198]

Also it’s not because they didn’t feel like recording history it’s because the priests and learned people focused on oral knowledge. Literally inscription evidence goes way past 1000 AD.

[@theviolator818]

Dank you come again.

[@harshrawat7392]

DEI rules

[@venumenon]

Wow, I truly hope not many people watch this. The number of misconceptions and amount of misunderstanding is tremendous. Happy to explain why but I'm just not sure, given the certitude he exhibits, that the "expert" will listen.

[@markmayonnaise1163]

Go ahead then

[@stevescuba1978]

Please do. Just list a couple egregious ones, so my I can determine if it is you, internet anon, or Rudyard who has the better credibility

[@UATHD]

Chanakya is also someone to look at

[@atheistbushman]

Great discussion, full of interesting interpretations on Indian and world history. As a young person I was very interested in Buddhism, it made sense to me, Hinduism on the other hand is a bizarre incomprehensible mess.

[@lbell9695]

The way I approach Hinduism is seeing it as multiple sets of philosophies. I'm personally very partial to the Advaita Vedanta sect which is quite similar to Buddhism. In fact there was a confluence of ideas between Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta :)

[@atheistbushman]

@@lbell9695 Interesting, I will go read a bit about Advaita Vedanta

[@lbell9695]

@@atheistbushman Definitely recommend it! In a nutshell, the main difference between the two from my understanding is Buddhism says the essence of everything is nothing, whilst in Advaita Vedanta, the essence of everything is pure consciousness. But apart from that main difference, a lot of the concepts are quite similar.

[@GargiSingh-op2je]

If you are interested in Indian philosophy there is a channel named India in pixels by qshris In one video on 16 different indic philosophy You can refer to it for a rough overview

[@awesomestevie27]

Didn’t mention the Scythians, I’m curious were they just aryans that mass immigrated around the time of Jesus that eventually became the Jatts, since Jatts have more steppe ancestory percentage than bramins

[@siddharthtyagi8980]

Scythians were Aryans who remained in Central Asia and migrated later to different parts of Eurasia like the Alans who conquered Spain were Scythians(Alan is a corruption of Aryan )

[@godscroissant1539]

@@siddharthtyagi8980many of them also migrated deeper into Iran with the western Iranians. There are many places in Iran that are of Scythian origin.

[@lonecandle5786]

Not sure how strong a sentence of a prophet is because it will be changed over time and even made up. We don't really know what a lot of these guys said.

[@priyansh_12391]

48:06 it was adi sankharacharya who led th hindu movement

[@fresholiveoil6490]

Ancient, classical and medieval China, please! I've known for a long time that I don't understand it and I want to.

[@Dunedain432]

Thank you!

[@danmoritz3319]

That's a pretty good overview of the origins of the main influences of Indian civilization,, acknowledging the importance of British influences in recent times, Rudyard.

[@EceKayacc]

Rise of Islam and what Islam means for future Europe.

[@JustinianG]

Personally, I'd divide india into 3. Aryan Hindu civilization, Dravidian Hindu Civilization, and lastly, British Hindu civilization (the parts of India that were british provinces instead of princely states)

[@lilemont9302]

But the dharmic religions definitely do have heaven & hell-realms. They're just also equally illusory, unlike in the Christian/Islamic worldview. This overlooks karma.

[@Makaneek5060]

What's ironic is that the Axial Age Brahmins also didn't believe the problems of the poor were real but they played politics better.

[@freestylebagua]

You can use evolutionary game theory to model an invasion barriers which the caste system would be a result of, here in the USA we're heavily propagandized to miscegenate to prevent a caste system from arising. In general, I view a caste system as systemically negative in the evolutionary game, as full reward for successful mutant strategies within the population is blockaded. As far as the Aryan invasion, there is evidence that there was genetic mixing initially, but then the behavioral invasion barrier process reversed that tendency to a caste system, where the strategies only show reward for intracaste games.

[@jeronimotamayolopera4834]

❤❤❤❤❤❤.

[@Kalki0025]

Sati emerged after 400 CE with the arrival of certain groups. They never mention the witch hunts in Europe, which were even more severe than those in India. Indian dramas began around the same time as ancient Greek ones, but unlike the ancient Greeks who had men playing women's roles, we allowed women to act in dramas. Some of the Upanishads were written by women such as Maitreyi and Gargi. Women participated in public debates just like men in ancient India. If you look at the carvings in our ancient temples, women are depicted more freely and vibrantly compared to their counterparts in Abrahamic religions. Additionally, we had some of the earliest democratic city-states, similar to the Greeks. We also had one of the earliest universities in the world. Indians invented -Meditation: 5000 BCE Yoga: 3000 BCE First flush toilet systems: 3000 BCE Ruler: 3000 BCE Buttons: 3000 BCE World's earliest dockyard: 3000 BCE Metallurgy: 3000 BCE Cotton cultivation: 3000 BCE Shampoo: 2000 BCE Ayurveda: 2000 BCE Invention of Chess: 1500 BCE Cotton: Natural Fibers and Cultivation: 1000 BCE Oldest University, Taxila: 1000 BCE Democratic republic system: 800 BCE (before Athenian democracy) Pythagorean theorem: 700 BCE Earth's orbit: 600 BCE Cataract Surgery, Plastic Surgery: 600 BCE First book based on economic and political science, Arthashastra: 300 BCE Fibonacci numbers: 200 BCE Systematic organized education system: 1000 BCE - 500 CE Modern numerals: 500 BCE - 500 CE The Decimal System and the Idea of Zero: 500 CE Algebra, Trigonometry, and the Fundamentals of Calculus-300 CE

[@ribps289]

54:38 Alright Rudyard, you have told us the British during the industrial revolution pretty much had no empathy and if the poor starved thats their own fault. THEY WERE NOT, the nicest colonial empire. Maybe you meant the most DEVELOPED, but definitely not the nicest.

[@Menaceblue3]

India seems like a based country/civilization if it wasn't for the polluted Ganges river, the low rate of residential bathroom plumbing, and the craziest spicy food styles....

[@bedlington.terrier]

Jai Hind. Vande Mataram. Bharata Mata Ki Jai.

[@Radhaugo108]

Asoka the Great say’s hello!

[@MrBasileus]

It is okay to question and disagree with details of the "Aryan Invasion theory". Even the experts who study these topics don't agree on everything.

[@bm1588]

This was really cool to learn about.

[@konstantinrebrov675]

I would rather be as a rice farmer. Reject totalitarianism, reject governments, return to farm.

[@User_877]

Sashi taroor is not our argument

[@1Bearsfan]

As someone with D.I.D., I can confirm, without a doubt, that reality is indeed, not real.

[@elec-qz9nl]

now we're talking 😁😁

[@aravindkrishnan7498]

This podcast has been frustrating to me at times. But I don't necessarily disagree with anything that you have said. My frustration comes with trying to understand the reasons for why the things that you have said would happen. For example : (1) reason for caste system as wanting separate ethnicities. It could very well be possible. (2) reason for the existence of Indian mystics as a coping mechanism for intelligent men in being disposessed. Again very plausible. (3) 'Hindus' winning against the Buddhas, by appealing to the masses and the nobility? Maybe, although I don't fully get it. Although as these reasons seem logically plausible, what I find confusing is in trying to incorporate the other realities of human societies and how they should work. Because, by your own conclusions(correct me if I am wrong) Indian society was millitarily weak and focused more on 'spirituality', the priests controlled the society even above the military. So with a weak, priest, ruling class, how would it be possible for them to (1) try and enforce any of this on a vast majority lower caste population, and more importantly (2) force them to follows this for 1000s of years(by your own conclusion). I mean it doesn't make sense right??? I have a different view or understanding what might have happened, which even I am not entirely confident in. But I would like to know your thoughts on this.

[@tssc1095]

Explaing israeli civilization 1

[@notsocrates9529]

It's just a speech of German Mustache Man.

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@notsocrates9529 wut

[@henrystokes1987]

What Israeli civilization?

[@Tuliotrivinooficial]

>Jews >Civilization Lol, lmao

[@notsocrates9529]

@@tuckerbugeater The truth.

[@salamander0729]

Interesting topic. Wish you would stop idolizing a criminal like andrew tate.

[@frankkistler6076]

Well researched and interesting but could use with some organization. It appears to be almost a stream of consciousness.

[@the_rohano]

Ruydard is great, amazing video, the other guy is not great on these podcasts...

[@MrBasileus]

You are not steel manning the arguments of Indian right wingers at all before criticizing them. You are putting down arguments made my silly trolls and think you have proven all Hindu nationalists wrong.

[@Bamawagoner]

Haven’t watched it yet but no way this video doesnt summon the 1.4(?) billion Indians to the comments.

[@ShivanshThakur-sh8ub]

No because most don't care.

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

@@ShivanshThakur-sh8ub You sure? I see an awful lot of them here

[@ShivanshThakur-sh8ub]

@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd search what is 0.01 percent of 1.4 billion

[@tssc1095]

EXPLAINING ISRAELI CIVILIZATION

[@elibrahams5566]

You are surrounded by people who want to kill you. Try not to die!

[@User_877]

The maharatas were already trying to unify India, u don’t need to get colonized for getting railway and science, ur universities worked because of money that came from India

[@theuniverse5173]

What the sigma

[@AdityaJape]

for what ?

[@vvee4725]

Reducing the Indian Maya to the "world isn't real" is hilariously gross. Further using that as an explanation for why Indians don't have as many records is honestly belligerent.

[@santhoshkrishna463]

Plus the Idea of Indians being Arrogant and from some Dubious outsider text that doesn't have any credibility And the Sentence of Telling Indian people deserved Islamic Invasions is BULLSHIT this guy consistently proves himself to be a Retarded half brainer

[@christiano9693]

Make the islam video next

[@henrystokes1987]

"I'm not JUST a racist Anglo-Colonial" - Rudyard 55:34

[@yux.tn.3641]

go and actually compare historical empires though = the British is "better" than the Spanish, French, Russian, Japanese or Nazi Germany in Africa, the English speaking countries are more developed than the Francophone Africa USA, Canada is defo nicer than Mexico, Brazil or Argentina and HK, Singapore, Malaysia are all nicer than Vietnam, Philippines, etc Rudyard says something similar but yeah I agree

[@henrystokes1987]

@@yux.tn.3641 I don't disagree with you. But the quote is hilarious. Freudian slip or just tragic phrasing? Lol

[@yux.tn.3641]

@@henrystokes1987 i don't even know what i quoted tragic phrasing i guess

[@yux.tn.3641]

@@henrystokes1987 rather i'll ask you = what do you mean by the term, racism? (superiority of a culture?) though "superior", I do dislike arrogance. China's traditional culture has influenced Korea, Japan and even Vietnam whilst India's culture influenced a lot of Malay Archipelago and people on Bali still believes in Hinduism I despise the blatant CCP nationalist who goes on arrogantly about it and their mindset but you can't dispute the historical influence over it those idiots just get carried away though.

[@yux.tn.3641]

adding an extra point = after the Song dynasty, there was never really another high point in Chinese culture again, and I'd say arrogance played a part? the Chinese just kept preserving the values of their past generations as to them = all that is discovered is already discovered. this is why I despise arrogance. I'm originally from China, its why I went off on a tangent...

[@CyberChud2077]

This should be good.

[@bedlington.terrier]

We are the Yamnaya people. We went west after the Battle of the Ten Kings. R1a haplogroups predate R1b. Jai Rajiv Malhotra ji and Abhijit Chavda ji.

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

... You ain't the yamnayas.And r1a DOESN'T predate r1b sorry.

[@tomdee6819]

The British colonialism stole 45 trillion dollars not exactly pennies. Your sounding like a friend of mine a Anglo racist colonialism. Thailand one of the few countries not under the British The British created a lot of divisions in Asia like Sri Lanka Myanmar and many other countries.May hate comment was Peaceful.

[@tianming4964]

To give credit to the Indian nationalists, when your worldview denies that reality exists, it only makes sense that they would deny realities like the caste system, Indo-Aryan invasions, etc., lmaoo

[@yux.tn.3641]

ouch i sort of worry the Hindu nationalists might end up something like China today

[@khanshiranyor3974]

Reading more will solve so many problems for people like that. I am also an Indian nationalist but I don't roam around claiming things I don't myself feel very sure about.

[@Hotasianchick]

Indo Aryan invasion has been debunked for approximately 55 years and fell out of favour in academia about 40 years ago for the Aryan migration theory as approximately 0 evidence of an armed, large scale invasion exists, you can check it right now with a quick Google search or a talk to an actual academic. Cry me a river about it, Europe got invaded and the EEF men got genocided and the women raped by Corded-Ware (who aren't even Aryan), Indian natives and the proto-Iranian farmers living in India didn't, they mixed in and their culture ended up staying more relevant than the rural and undisputedly less developed Aryan culture, if this triggers you then know that facts don't care about feelings😂

[@santhoshkrishna463]

When Narcissistic Idiots who have No brains say this without any investigation of Indian history it makes any assumption dubious The caste system was flexible in the Ancient period Indo-Aryan people F**king MIGRATED not Invaded You would have to be a Retard to still believe in invasion theory Indian nationalists have brains unlike Narcissistic whitey Idiots like the guy above

[@santhoshkrishna463]

Plus a man who has the Imaginary character as his Pfp shouldn't judge us Indian nationalists LOL

[@Simplyveej]

You are wrong about the Aryan invasion. It was an Aryan migration. it was peaceful and it did not displace any local power structures.

[@captainfury497]

Actually the French were better in India. French controlled parts of India are doing pretty good and is absolutely beautiful. The French controlled some parts of India some 10 years after the British left. They left after being asked nicely too but not before letting people have a choice to receive French citizenship. Therefore some people in these areas still vote in the French presidential elections. Anyway it is not known that they persecuted anyone or committed any atrocities. French even allowed Indian freedom fighters escaping the British areas to live in their areas as political refugees.

[@random_shit_online6104]

"left after being asked nicely" the anglo-french war? on Indian soil?

[@captainfury497]

@@random_shit_online6104 French left only in 1954, 7 years after India's independence from the British (Yes, they did control a few areas after the Anglo-French war). Indian government negotiated with them to give these areas back. In contrast the Portuguese refused to do so which prompted India to launch a military campaign to take back Portuguese controlled Goa

[@random_shit_online6104]

the french control over those parts was already weakening, they had no choice. the portuguese refused to negotiate. both were equally disgusting to me personally. the french are not any better than any other colonizers, esp with what they did in vietnam.

[@captainfury497]

@@random_shit_online6104 These places were not worth any strategic value either. But unlike the others French never committed any atrocity or anything in India. Even the local councils in French territory were represented by locals. These people had a greater degree of freedom and autonomy. When they left they gave French citizenship to anyone who wanted it. Overall their whole stay in India was very civil. Their colonial policies in Vietnam or Algeria however remains as a disgrace to them.

[@random_shit_online6104]

​@@captainfury497 they had already lost the places of strategic importance to the British. seems about right. you could argue that facing defeat at the hands of the British and witnessing the various rebellions had them acting civil, but ig i could give you the W here. the 'net positive' that my man here in the video is talking about, I wonder to what level that is true. but one thing i can say benefitted us Indians was the fact that it acted as our gateway to the modern world. if not for colonialism, i suspect another mass invasion from the north-west would have done the same, as observed from studying history (the aryans brought horses and chariot-making, the mughals the art of cannon-making )

[@bhaskarbose9706]

This is exactly the problem when amateurs start talking about a subject they know very little about - The mauryans never wrote: some of the best pieces of indian writing emerged around this time, for example arthashastra by kautilya that pretty much laid the basis of indian empires for many centuries later. There was no greek invasion of northern india right after alexander, the kushan empire did occupy parts of northern india but that was after the mauryan collapse, not before. And they too were short lived as they got beaten by the guptas shortly after. Castes are ethnic groups : started laughing at this one😂, it is true that after the caste system solidified at around the end of the tripartite struggle at around 1000 ad, but before caste as a system was quite lose where intermarriages were really common. Even i as a bengali kayastha have had multiple ancestors from different castes wjthin the last 5 generations, brahmins, kayastha, baidya, etc. Mauryans were a buddhist empire : i mean come on do ur research before making these claims. Ashoka the last truly great mauryan empire converted to buddhism towards the end of his conquests, the dudes before him were not. The sati and pardah systems that u talked about where women were opressed solidified during muslim rule, it wasnt characteristic of hindu society. The sati system developed as a reaction to islamic conquests to save the women from warrior households from humiliation and it only really took place in limited places in india. Hindu texts like the kamasutra and mahabharata openly talked about female sexual health and well being. Overall clearly biased and poorly researched. There were plenty of other facts that u got wrong, but these i can remember from the top of my head. U clearly arent in a position to make videos or claims given ur poor research. Hard to beleive in ur philosophical civilizational based claims given the hints of bias i sensed in ur video.

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

Your own countrymen here are saying castes are ethnic groups Indian nationalists not contradict themselves challenge (HARD)

[@BroadwayRonMexico]

He didn't say the Mauryans never wrote. He said that they didnt use writing to keep the same sort of practical administrative records the way nearly every other society with writing did. There are plenty of examples of societies using writing for administrative record-keeping and keeping tabs on events, but where everything else from religious passages, to poems, to instructional discourses are passed down orally. The Mauryans were pretty much the reverse of that, and it's notable in that regard. It would like if we still had the large corpus of philosophical and mythological writings from Classical and Hellenistic Greece, but 90% of the chronicling or practical record-keeping we have from the era was solely oral and never recorded in writing. We would today have a vague knowledge of some of history of the big chapters like Alexander's Conquest and the Diadochi Kingdoms, but they would be shockingly vague given the magnitude and era of the events (since most of that would be primarily known through archaeological finds and surviving non-Greek sources about the era, such as the Books of the Maccabees, or side references in non-chronicling Greek sources)

[@santhoshkrishna463]

​@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4ydcaste are not fucking ethnicities I am a Low caste Tamil my friend is a low caste Punjabi any idiot who seas us and calls us a single ethnicity will be considered a Moron Caste developed on the Basis of Jobs Tamil's have brahmin and even Kashmiri people have brahmin they are not a Single ETHNICITY like you idiots like to project An leftist who makes actual fact based comment challenge (impossible)

[@mandarmn]

Unfortunately a lame video regurgitating what colonialists said 100 years ago. It’s easy to narrate a story based on reading a few books and square off everything with - caste is the root cause of all ills in india. Just a few points to ponder: Islam took almost 500 years to gain hold in India vs its rapid expansion from Persia to Spain. Why would that be the case if Indians were so divided? Why would lower caste Hindus not accept an “egalitarian” Islam but rather prefer to die in millions? Read about developments in Mathematics (trigonometry, infinite series), linguistics, medicine, architecture. Would a decadent society produce leaders across diverse fields. Don’t take my word for it, but rather look up on actual studies on this topic. Good way to garner views based on shoddy understanding. Enjoy the ad money!

[@almgaming186]

When expanding into India Islam didn’t have the same rapid expansion because by the time they invaded they were past their period of rapid expansion. And beleive it or not Islam isn’t very heavy on forced conversion it taking them until 1000 to be a majority in the Middle East. Also they set themselves up as a ruling class after not that long.

[@almgaming186]

And about the advancements like Rudyard said Hindu nationalists believe a lot of insane things about India that aren’t true, it’s possible that those advancements are either lies or half truths

[@mandarmn]

@@almgaming186 again a vague reasoning - why did the period of rapid expansion end? Islam clearly has a goal of converting the entire world. Clearly someone stopped them in their tracks. Conversions was and is a dominant theme. Execution may take time, and rulers try to be practical with jizya inflows, but the ghazi/sufi has the obligation to convert.

[@mandarmn]

@@almgaming186 there are literalists in every religion who don’t change their ideas when new evidence emerges. Clearly there are fanatics who give fantasized timeline going back 20000 years or more. Any such timeline needs tonnes of proof, not merely a quote from a book written probably a few centuries ago. Some “nationalists” do a disservice as genuine researchers get labelled with the same brush as their fantasies.

[@арефнар]

Larp further you holistically minded weirdos