Explaining Digimon: OGREMON DIGIVOLUTION LINE [Digimon Conversation #42]

Let us talk about Ogremon and its line. I must say, THIS DIGIMON REALLY ROCKS!!! And its mega digivolutions are very mysterious. We certainly will have to get back to it.
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[@DigimonExplained]

Titamon, as a Titan in Greek mythology: kzbin.info2HQt9_q40bg

[@robdenicola4152]

Wow Titamon’s design is pretty damn awesome.

[@McChookter]

One of my favourites! Digitamon was one of the strongest ultimates in Digimon world and he was just a little egg guy.

[@DemitriusX666]

I remember in World 3, he was easy to level up and take advantage of.

[@salogiuca16]

I think that ogremon has the femur of a skull-greymon simply because he absorbed the data from it. Maybe he managed to defeat one, alone or in a group of goblimon, or he found his data scattered somewhere and kinda upgraded his old club that he got as a goblimon

[@donflamingo5685]

Not gonna lie I always wanted a type of fusion between leomon and ogremon. Like it seems like it'd be a great concept.

[@idkwhatimdoing5268]

Maybe the bone club from SkullGreymon is just the Data, like how Gatomon was using the data of SaberLeomon for it's paws, or Gabumon's coat coming from Garurumon. So maybe it somehow took data from a slain SkullGreymon that was somehow gathered up, it just happened to be the femer bone, and it took it. I'm not really sure though. There's probably a lot of plot holes with that. In any case, I like the video. Keep up the good work 👍

[@reifuTD]

I've seen this evolution simulator game that lets you take a creature make a snap shot of that moment of it's evolution then use that snap shot to make copies of it. I get the feeling somehow this is what's going on here like theirs a world or there once was a world where Digimon evolves more naturally. Someone took snaps shots and put those copies in the Digital World.

[@wanttogetfood]

could have been that Skullgreymon was just about to die from natural causes and Ogremon just whacked it b4 and believed he was just such a badass

[@moises3640]

@@reifuTD All of the digital worlds in digimon are connected if a digimon evolves due to a special circumstance yggdrasil gathers that data and copies it to the different digital worlds

[@blasalvarado4313]

Nostalgia925 at this point with all the digivolution lines that you talk about you should use Wisemon as your avatar. Hearing you talk about these subjects I feel like I’m in a giant library listening to Wisemon giving a lecture or discussion.

[@CodeSymphonia13]

Wow, I remember mentioning that I like the Goblimon digivolution line back when you replied to another one of my comments. Keep up the great work as this is another fine video.

[@valkyrasonara1797]

Titamon is one of the strongest Digimon in Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth. His Attack is soooo strong. For real this guy beats the shit out of the enemys 😂

[@fadedshade8927]

For real,i had two of them and it made the story a breeze

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

His boss is so hard. I have to make sure I have a ton of healing until I can ExE digivolve.

[@florantlover5554]

Also he whoops in rearise too.(rip rearise)

[@Pinkystein]

I didn't know Digitamamon was the digivolution of Ogremon! Watching this, I had an idea. So, in Digimon World 1 on the PS1, in the third place that you fight Ogremon where he fights alongside WaruSeadramon, there is a item that can digivolve your champion digimon into Digitamamon, Whamon's "treasure". I wonder if Ogremon knew of this item and wanted to use it to digivolve prematurely in order to beat the player character and their digimon! He was fighting alongside an ultimate in this fight which I always thought was a bit random, so perhaps it's a nod to this?

[@MarcusRalphson]

when they made titamon for decode, they needed an ultimate form. so they choose digitamamon. you can see they made both digitamamon and titamon have the same nails. all three have green legs, etc. ogremon wanting to steal that digivolution item is an interesting thought though. I wonder why Whamon had it in the first place

[@khalybebe]

Great observation!

[@eduardoramirezjr1892]

LORD. THAT FIGHT. I REMEMBER IT LIKE YESTERDAY. I Evolved my Coelamon to Whamon with Focus on INT.... I Was Cocky And Decided That I Could Take Ogremon..... That Battle Drained me of all my Items. That WaruSeadramon was Super Fast Too. The Only Attack That Would Hit Him Was Icicle.... And It did soooo Little Damage. I Was Sad When My Smart Whalemon Died After Battle. I Won, But The Cost Was Too GREAT.

[@kaijurider9505]

I wish that they would let digimon work under a higher age-rating, it could be way cooler

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

... digital monster based on data on the internet with a higher age-rating... that's how you get bdsmon

[@maxhadanidea]

@@youtubestudiosucks978 you made my nose exhale, i give you like as payment

[@milesbradshaw6643]

Titamon is like a more powerful version of Demongo The Soul Collector from Samurai Jack.

[@CeranVA]

"Usually when digimon die, they just disappear, but here is a Skullgreymon that did not disappear." Generally in the Digimon verse, items that are left behind by digimon aren't actually literally taken off their bodies. Taking Gabumon's Garurumon pelt for example, Ogremon is very simply only using the data left behind from a dying Skullgreymon, which creates a bone club modeled after a Skullgreymon femur. Clearly if it was actually a 1 to 1 femur taken off the body, it would be much too massive.

[@zacharygadzinski3147]

Ironically enough Leomon gained a new Digivolution in Heavyleomon which digivolve from Grapleomon. Yet Elecmon's line is interesting considering how many Leomon variations branch from it.

[@Lowklas]

I love your content! Thank you for answering so many unasked digi questions!

[@wovercomet9412]

I always waited for this line! Also, I didn't know that Digitamamon has a dark evolution call Devitamamon. I need to keep learning more about Digimon. Thank you.

[@bookmew1081]

It also has HolyDigitamamon & Lampmon that it can Digivolve into.

[@angels123454]

Digitamamon is a Digimon I always found interesting, but I kind of went WTF is that when it came to Devitamamon, its looks like an Eldritch abomination that claimed the poor things shell, ZeedMilleniumon maybe? I doubt it tough, your theory seems more plausible. As a Norwegian I would love a Jotunn inspired Digimon connected to the Ogremon/Hyogamon line, maybe an Ultimate level who can become Titamon alongside Digitamamon, like how both Devidramon and Strikdramon can become Cyberdramon.

[@anthonyaleman8963]

Funny you should mention Zeedmillenniummon because it's lower form Moon-millenniummon can be a result of Millenniummon digivolving with Devitamamon and Grandracmon.

[@angels123454]

​@@anthonyaleman8963 well thats interesting, I did not guess that a passing tought would lead to anything and it was fun to see Grandracmon (a line that i wish to see covered since it has a link to Dorumon, trough Death X Digivolution) having a next form and it makes a lot of sense, two extremely dark and twisted Digimon becoming an Eldritch Abomination, Digimon can be really creepy at times... I do my own research but sometimes information is overlooked im not as good as Nostalgia925 at finding information on Digimon but I tend to be careful with Digivolution sources as some Digivolutions can be chalked up to game mechanics. Like WaruSeadramon to Daemon in Digimon World Next Order, cause... whats the connection? To be fair NeoDevimon nor SkullSatamon wasn`t in the game, both Fallen Angels becoming a stronger Fallen Angel.

[@medeasong9354]

Love your videos keep up the good work

[@MarcusRalphson]

poor minervamon although it IS a bit weird that digitamamon can be both minervamon and Titamon when minerva is an olmypos whilst Tita hates them. I guess its a bit like when family turn on each other. two different digitamamons, are siblings, grow to hate each other in their final form

[@billcipherfankamenvorvanov9208]

I´ve been waiting for a bit to see this exploration, but it was worth it ! During the recent years, Ogremon´s line has become one of my all time favourites ! It has so much potential. I feel like we´ll see the "Titamon" to both SnowGoburimon and Shamanmon, seeing how they share a lot data with Goburimon, but they are pretty different on their own. I can easily see a Nordic yotun based Titamon or some kind of Mayan inspired Titamon for these two lines. Also, here is a random thought. Digitamamon is a Data type Digimon, unlike any of the others in its Digivolution line. So, here is a theory. Devitamamon and Titamon are the same Digimon, but manifested differently. Digitamamon has a move called the "Nightmare Syndrome", in which it sends out its "real self" to fight. This move is often self destructive and might cause a lot of damage to Digitamamon itself. What if, after a while of this move not being efficient and only damaging the egg itself, it uses this built up hatred and burst open, turning into Devitamamon. This way, it turns basically mindless and only craves destruction, similarly to Deathmon (which can also be Data type, funnily enough). But if this move secceeds and hardens Digitamamon through battle, it changes the hatred into courage, Digivolving into Titamon. Devitamamon is said to posses the "Power of Pandora´s box", so instead of mindless violance, it channels this same power in its fight againts the Olympus 12 as a Titamon (who funnily enough again, are connected to Digitamamon as well, with Minervamon having the ability to Digivolve from a Digitamamon).

[@Wolfqueen007]

Glad to see you back in the swing of things, and congratulations on earning your degree. I think Devitamamon results from meddling with magic it shouldn't have, perhaps experimenting on itself in demonic ways. Just a theory. That thing reminds me of a mimic, and it's creepy as hell

[@ORLY911]

I kinda wish they made an evolution for Ogremon referencing the last episode of Adventure where he dons a ronin outfit, it's mostly just a gag and samurai movie spoof, but an ogremon with a ronin aesthetic and sharpened his club into a bone sword would be pretty awesome. Maybe even make it his Banchou form if they ever do that.

[@charizardgamer6151]

i have been a fan for a long time and i loved the armor digivolutions i was wondering if you will continue those videos and could we have armadillomon's or hawkmon's armor digivolutions next please

[@prehistoricshrimp]

Can you make a video explaining Hawkmon’s armor digivolutions and regular digivovlutions In different videos of course

[@brazguard3akabg357]

I cannot wait for the Etemon video. :D

[@felixmontero6448]

Yoo loved the video, i have a question, why can WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon evolve to Omegamon without jogress? And also why can Dynasmon evolve to Omegamon? And also can you do a video on Asuramon please? Love that four arm, bipolar digimon hahaha, keep the great work my man!

[@josephmauvais5500]

I think a follow up video is needed to discuss Rebellimon lol

[@TooTallTom94]

Titamon is the enemy of the Olympus 12. The Olympus 12 are like the equivalent of the Royal Knights in the other server. In theory, the 12 are "good," protecting their server from "evil," titatmon being one of those evils. Jupiterman (olympus leader) is the ultimate and literal judge of good. None of his rulings have been overturned.

[@zacharygadzinski3147]

That would be interesting, but I think in Japanese media orcs are more or less pigmen while in the west orcs are typically as large usually green men and women with tusks and rippling muscles who tend to live in cultures similar to Vikings and other warrior human clans from history.

[@austingomez9630]

As The UNKNOWN AUTHOR, all i got to say is Nooooooo!!! RIP: SkullGreymon, for ever a skull head sword now P's Great video Nostalgia925 i learned a lot from the Ogrmon line, especially the rookie form. On how the environment, would make the Digimon Adjust to survive, like in the colder areas that it looks like a (viking) which were a Culture of a group of people who adjusted in living in colder areas, and were a great fighting fours when fighting together, against an opponent. I was surprised to find out that (Titamon) was Ogremon Maga?!!! But i did know about the digimon before hand, on my research on Greek mythology Gods and creachers, and was surprised to see Digimon version of them :) I knew that we would talk about greekMoN sooner or later, but i didn't know it would be this soon :) i"m best guess is that we would learn about GreekMoN from you in 2027. hahahah, glade to see the schedule was moved ahead. P'S: here's another theory what if the Digimon world long ago was connected with the real world, this would explain why Zudomon would have thor's Hammer, and maybe on how Greek culture on God like beings, and creachers came to be. But let me know what you think :) From:The UNKNOWN AUTHOR

[@patrickstreetet3085]

Keep it up dude. I would love to see gazimons digivolution line.

[@Greyshadow511]

This was always one is my favorite lines. Digitamamon is still a weird one to me. I hope one day we get some ultimate form that fits better.

[@darkchaosprotector11]

I realize how late I am, but hear me out. What if digitamamon or however it's spelled, learned some dark magic and that caused it to become corrupt? That could lead to a magic based dark digivolution and it could also explain why suddenly its overwhelming magic power. Just a thought

[@samsondsouza6334]

I enjoyed watching the video. I really appreciate the info and the references that you mentioned especially about titamon were awesome. Well talking about apemon, I personally feel that it's rookie form is monmon and monmon could also be the rookie form of etemon too. Targetmon could be the champion form of etemon as it is also a puppet digimon... It's confusing to imagine why would ogremon (a demon) digivolve into an etemon( a puppet)... Please make a video on Merukimon's digivolution line. I have a feeling that it's rookie form is psychemon, champion is gururumon and I don't know what it's ultimate form is... So please make a video on that too Dear KZbinr . Thank you 😇

[@nathanmcclung3564]

I feel it fused with a wizard like digimon that most likely harbored some sort of hatred toward the governing faction and this energy caused it to fuse with it and digivolve.

[@Magnamaster]

Yes yes keep them coming

[@Sliferslacker29]

I would live to see you do a video about MedievalDukemon and it's relation to the Royal Knight Gallantmon.

[@bernardlovesadventures6649]

A lot of theories here on how Skullgreymon's femur can still be used by Ogremon after it was slain. But consider this. There are plenty of examples in the anime (and probably manga) that digimon don't need to be killed for some part of them to be detached. Wizardmon's hat for example in the first season when he was up against Myotismon. Or Gabumon's pelt when he took it off to warm Matt up with it. What if the Skullgreymon was still alive but Ogremon snuck up on it, outwitted it and took its femur? Being all bones and being more visceral than intelligent, seems more like a probable explanation than beating Skullgreymon. And then perhaps when that particular Skullgreymon dies, Ogremon's bone club disappears and he has to look for another one.

[@HellPatch]

You should do a top 10 list of your favorite digimon

[@matthewdodd1262]

I am now really looking forward to a Shamanmon video and a Etemon video

[@CvSlush]

Amazing vid. I love all the insightful information. What do you know about Saberdramon? Why is it in the Dramon family instead of Wind Guardians?

[@MarcusRalphson]

saberdramon is nightmare soilders and wind guardians. dramon isnt a family its a group more like the mamemons or the seadramons.

[@iantaran2843]

Goblimon/Goburimon - Ogremon is my favorite Digimon, it's whole line is amazing. I don't think we will get it but I pray and hope for him on the new vital bracelet. I'll rep him forever 😂

[@texansgregory5041]

Fun fact Titanmon was originally to be part of the Olympus XII he was the original Bacchusmon

[@abdulrahmanzalzamel6229]

Thanks for the excellent video please can you do a video on hawkmon again thank you for your great work

[@aaramchase3502]

The reason why he has its leg bone is through taking that data after defeating the skullgreymon. We can see this as true as many digimon absorb data from digimon thats its defeated even through that same digimon became a egg right after it was defeated. So technically its only data which will be replaced after its turned to a egg and just regain that data back because that said skullgreymon will be a baby again and returned back to its original form, so itll just lose all the data anyways.

[@anthonyaleman8963]

Remember when it was said that it will only digivolve form data from another dimension, my theory is that it somehow found it's way to wichelny and absorbed data that discovered there but it's origin is that of the dark area, and according to digimon story cyber sleuth (don't know which game) digimon can read and learn through external data, so it may have learned to use a form of magic that uses the dark element by absorbing dark area data that may have been messed with by the inhabitants of witchelny.

[@omnizx4155]

So seeing as you’ve done both Gatomon forms can you do one on mastemon and also like how Gabumon takes the data from a gurumon might be the same way that ogremon “keeps” the data from the skullgreymon or at least what I think

[@FlintsInfernape]

I got an ad on this video that said member only content in the top left :/ made me refresh the page a couple times. There's not even a bar at the bottom showing that it's an ad or how long it'll last. Pretty scummy of youtube to do that. Didn't even know it was an ad until I watched another video and I decided to wait it out

[@bookmew1081]

I thought Digitamamon also had HolyDigitamamon as a heavenly alternative to the creepy Devitamamon. Sadly most people forget about it even the actual creators of Digimon Stuff. There's also Lampmon who is a green Genie Digimon that can digivolve from Digitamamon. Nanimon & Vegiemon are also common Champion Forms for Digitamamon who probably deserved its own video. Nanimon also commonly digivolves into Etemon & can digivolve from Goblinmon.

[@syaoranli973]

Titamon is a member of the Three Gods of Destruction along with Gaiomon and Kuzuhamon.

[@skellingtron817]

i would like to see a video on technodramon i would say something about it but you can fit everything known about it in a single sentence

[@aaramchase3502]

You should do a video on what if how strong would a jesmon gx and omegamon x fusion would be

[@knux64]

Do the Olympus 12 next.

[@andresmarrero8666]

With Devitamamon, it was probably some fool from Witchery that decided to mess with the coding of a digitamamon for the sake of doing so. Probably Witchmon because she is not supposed to be there in the first place and would do anything to show up wizardmon. Considering that digitamamon's shell is already filled with hatred towards the Olympus 12 (granted since they are based off of the greek gods that is probably somewhat justified) and digivolved from an overly aggressive ogremon, that was a very poor decision indeed and we can see how that ended up for her. The Bancho team would be stupid to team up with Titamon. There is no way that a being of pure hatred would ever end up good without God's intervention. That just isn't happening and if they do just that, it gives me even more of a reason to really dislike them and their hypocritical, immature, and self centered "justice".

[@donflamingo5685]

I mean is it wrong to turn evil into a tool for good?

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@donflamingo5685 evil cannot be used for good. It is foolish and arrogant to think otherwise. Beings like that will not end up as anything good without God's intervention.

[@donflamingo5685]

@@andresmarrero8666 never heard of the necessary evil? Never heard of people changing through experiences? I bet for all my life has been worth up until this point that he's just blinded by how his components were treated and destroyed. I feel like compassion. True compassion could soften his heart.

[@valkyrasonara1797]

Is the ghost inside Digitamamon the same like the one on the ExTyrannomon costume? 🤔

[@aaramchase3502]

Or you should do a video on what a fusion of all royal knights would be like and how string he'd be like how we have have a fusion of all the demonlords.

[@rgytos]

Hi Nostalgia925 i am have seen all your digimon videos but i am not sure now had you done one on Shadow and Blackseraphimon ?

[@DigimonExplained]

No i did not. We ll get there

[@rgytos]

@@DigimonExplained i hope soon would rly like to know their background

[@farahal-naqeeb3604]

Good

[@Darth12000]

I don't know if someone said it, but I'll say it anyway. You mentioned Digitamamon being a perfect level, but didn't know what it means. Perfect level is the name in Japanese digivolution ranks that became Ultimate in the international version. Ultimate in Japanese names means Mega in international. There you have it

[@bookmew1081]

It's not just Perfect in terms of level with it being called Perfect much like Ogremon is called Ogre or SkullSatamon is called Undead/Ghost. Rebellimon is a Cyborg Type digivolution for Ogremon much like Digitamamon is Perfect Type.

[@shayneTCC]

Will you be doing a Tyrannomon evolution line?

[@Youngblood457]

I think death works the same it does in the show, but ogremon’s bone club I think that’s just the digital world taking reference from real world people using bones as clubs

[@virus1244]

My man, I have to skip back every couple minutes. There is so much depth. PBWU

[@wanttogetfood]

MetalGarurumon's X antibody is most intresting for powerscaling reasons

[@xDinomanx]

I do feel like it would've been awesome to get an official ultimate for Ogremon which could've been an "Orcmon" or something of goblin/orc design that still had similar weapons to Ogremon and Titanmon (made from Skullgreymon parts too). That said it's so awesome Bandai created an official mega in the form of Titanmon which is connected to the Olympus Twleve as their mortal enemy.

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Ogre's and orcs hate each other

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

Can you do labramon/dobermon base off a Doberman breads by Karl Friedrich Louis Dobermann, a tax collector from Germany. Also dobermon base on church grim a mythical dog spirit that protects secret place and people from evil spirits like demons. Cerberusmon can evolve into anubismon and may also evolve into plutomon.

[@idkwhatimdoing5268]

I think that he should 100% do a labramon video, because the intresting thing is that Labramon was actually made sepretely from the other digimon(like how Dorumon, or Ryuudamon were), only Labramon was man-made from it's baby-fresh form, to it's Rookie form. Also there's some intresting lore surrounding it. Like it's said that it can't digivolve further than it's rookie form, unless a miracle were to happen. Also if I were to choose any digimon to be partners with me(that wasn't already a partner in an already exsisting Digimon series) it would be Labramon hands down(or Gazimon, or Gizamon, but Labramon would be my first choice).

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

@@idkwhatimdoing5268 the miracle is exceedingly faithful to it's tamer feeling of a strong protection needs. In survive dobermon going to be it cannon evolution.

[@akshayjaiswal5776]

Can you do figimon plz Sir I enjoy your video as it is very good

[@archpil7771]

Can you make video about renamon? Her megaevo is so beautiful i think. Thankyou @Nostalgia925

[@Mystdrago27]

Perfect is it's stage, it's an ultimate level, which in the Japanese dub the stage after champion is Perfect

[@mightyandray7260]

What if you do Monachromon evaluation video

[@xeno8484]

Ogremon still needs a ultimate/perfect before Titamon something like a Oni or a or a Troll

[@Iveno-Von-Aethervein]

So it's not technically a Digimon but would you be willing to cover the Mecha rogue line from Digimon World 4?

[@nazrulazli5392]

I love how Titamon (Mega form of Ogremon) is just a monster hunter in digimon universe.

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Monster hunter also has 6 size classes and digimon has 6 lifestages...

[@jaysilverhood1264]

What if digitamamon became devitamamon bevause it was thrown in the dark area? That's also another dimension right? Or is it just digimon Hell? As for titamon, the background could just be a metaphor for something. Maybe a digitamamon was one of its enemies or victims of the Olympus XII (not all of them are good) and through Sheer hatred and scattered data of the other victims it digivolves and has a one man goal of just killing the Olympus XII?

[@nicholase82]

Did you see Digimon (2020) ep 5 where it talks about the digital world following the law of evolution.

[@andresmarrero8666]

And how they discovered a power greater than that which is held naturally by humans. Probably the numerous unquantifiable elements that define us, including emotions.

[@chrisduty4919]

Digitamamon- devitamamon definitely were in witchenly at some point.

[@axels3188]

I think that the reason why Digitamamon dark Divivolved into Devitamamon is because sometimes when it absorbs High interlete Data some of it could of had a virus and thus the Virus corrupted Digitamamon’s date to cause it to Dark Digivolve.

[@thomasmorato5098]

Update, seems like Orgemon's other Perfect level is Rebellimon.

[@alexegbert7274]

Doesn't Digitamamon already have it's own dimension within it's egg (and not even a face in this form)? I imagine that makes inter dimensional travel all the more unstable. Perhaps the mere act of trying to cross dimensions causes an anomaly makes it sap power from witchenly and possibly the dark area? For that matter, we don't even know much about Digitamamon's own dimension as it stands.

[@AdaptiveReasoning]

So, digimon have their items when they evolve or devolve. There are stories attached to digimon and their bone clubs or fur coats or whatever, but they're not true in the truest sense. Digimon embody human myths and ideas. So the stories and the items of a digimon are attached to their file, their essence. They become what we believe they are. (That's why children are able to empower them in the shows, children have big imaginations and big beliefs.)

[@mananexus]

Titamon looks badass

[@iantaran2843]

Zurumon > Pagumon > Goblimon > Ogremon > Rebellimon > Titamon. Would be my partner, how about y'all ? Also side note I would LOVE to see a Super Ultimate for for Titamon, maybe one where he has defeated and absorbed the data of The Olympos XII/ using pieces of their weapons and armor... But of course I would 🤣 he's my favorite.

[@kimtohwei4206]

I would believe Titanmon and Olympus twelve animosity stems from the Greek myth of the Titanomachy between the Greek gods and Titans of the related myth.

[@DM-lg9ot]

digitamamon reminds me of gluttony from Fullmetal maybe he just a walking portal that the wizard Digimon use to enter the digital world

[@haroldfuqua4045]

Devitamamon is my favorite digimon

[@wingtyger6096]

I feel like he should be able to evolve into boltmon

[@jimmyjones6962]

Could you please look at GranDracmon

[@wanttogetfood]

I see Shamamon evolving into Seppikumon

[@hazmanhasnan3121]

I think ogremon get the bone of skullgreymon via its data. Just like how gabumon get the fur of garurumon. Ogremon get the bone from the data of skullgreymon. Ogremon might has some tricks to obtain of that dead digimon

[@seirramoon388]

Titamon is also part of the 3 gods of destruction!

[@removebeforeflightgamingth9923]

Who are the other 2?

[@anthonyaleman8963]

@@removebeforeflightgamingth9923 Samudramon and Kuzuhamon

[@ElladanKenet]

Wait, Ogremon can digivolve into Digitamamon? Never knew that!

[@MarcusRalphson]

wasnt really a thing till decode. then they made a combined mega (titamon) for both of them and made them a line. goes to show thar at any point random digimon can be linked together.

[@whatenuary4643]

but down in our heart, we know the evolution of goburimon is picolo

[@robertjones1502]

I would think he would have somehow came into the world of Darkness like Kyrie did in the second generation of Digimon

[@justadude274]

In Digimon 2020 they're bringing the angels battle in the past

[@BrickChick]

Would altering a digital source code to alter a digital object or life form be the equivalent of some sort of digital alchemy? I guess with that logic , the ability to create data from nothing would be a form of digital magic .

[@photonman0018]

*insert Shrek joke here*

[@ktvx.94]

Goblimon at first (as Goburimon) was portrayed as dumb. This is interesting

[@andresmarrero8666]

Now who would make for a relatively interesting battle against Titamon in stopping him? Perhaps Regigigas the king of the regis, the continent puller would make for an entertaining last fight for Titamon.

[@liampual9463]

Your downplaying the power of digimon, power scaling wise Regigigas is only continent level link vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Regigigas while below average mega levels like Ebemon can literally destroy planets. so your telling me that titamon a digimon who rivals the power of the Olympos XII who themselves rival the power of the royal knights is losing to Regigigas who is continent level even though royal knights like Dynasmon can destroy a digital world vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:RVACWqg.pngwhich can be as big as a universe and titamon scales to them. None of this even high balling I'm just using definitive feats and statements from the series.

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@liampual9463 the guy literally pulls continents on a daily basis before breakfast like they weigh nothing. He is solely responsible for their current placement. When it comes to physical strength that is most certainly comparable as such strength is literally godlike. We don't really have any information on Titamon other than his hatred of the Olympus 12, we don't really have much on the Olympus 12 either other than that they are considered equal to the royal knights whom has not shown anything remotely comparable to destroying a planet, not even a continent. They have a lot of bluster around them but if they truly had the power to destroy the digital world, then you wouldn't have a digital world. Heck Mercurymon was offered by the creations of a moronic scientist and the royal knights in the very same season was having trouble just destroying a few measly cities when it should have been done in mere moments if such claims were to be believed. I think you are over blowing their capabilities by a significant margin. The attitude that digimon automatically wins without proper analysis is an annoying and ludicrous one, one that people love doing.

[@liampual9463]

​@@andresmarrero8666 did you forget the fact that mega levels like Ebemon can literally destroy planets,digimon being above continental level is a very causal thing. Your argument that digimon don't have the capability to destroy worlds because they don't do it constantly is the area of effect fallacy where just because a character doesn't destroy the environment to a certain level when fighting they aren't that level of strength even though there evidence of them being capable of doing so. link vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:885043 .For example in dragon Ball Goku has never destroyed a planet himself and when fighting against other people only the ground and terrain around them gets destroyed does that mean he can't destroy a planet by himself even though he has defeated villains that have actually destroyed planets. When characters that are planetary level are fighting each other but it doesn't destroy the environment it can be explained away with their durability where the characters are able to disperse the force/energy of the attack internally (again, thanks to their way higher than average durability). Also choosing that example in savers to downplay and is an example of the Proof by example Fallacy. This type of fallacy involves someone citing one example of something as proof of a general rule, so just because that universes version of the royal knights didn't destroy planets doesn't mean any version of royal knights across the franchise can't. There several feats from other series showing the royal knights being planetary and above.For example In the xross wars manga it was stated that Dynasmon was capable of destroying the digital world with his Dragon Collider attack and the only reason it didn't work was because ZeedMillenniummon in that manga had the power to absorb all attack cancelling out any destruction it could have caused. In the Digimon Chronicle x the demon lords are literally stated and shown to threaten not only the old digital world but also the new digital world meaning their above planetary minimum and the royal knights defeated them, UlforceVeedramon defeated demon x on his own so the royal knights do scale to above planetary power. I hope you learn a better understanding of power scaling.

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@liampual9463 You talk way too much. I know what you said about Ebimon and what they say about Ebimon. If you were to believe it without question, that would put Ebimon as Susanoomon which is utterly moronic. The vs battle wiki is not official nor trustworthy, they are worse than death battle and have a severe bias towards digimon. They outright say that the servers are multiversal when there is nothing to suggest that. In Savers (Dara squad) they were sent to destroy Earth by Yggdrasil itself. Not only did they fail but a task that should have took them mere moments instead took them at most 30 minutes to reduce a measly city to rubble, and that is without interference from the heroes. So not in the same very show did a member of the Olympus 12 fall to the creations of a moronic scientist but the very same royal knights that you want to put on this very same pedestal fail to crack the crust. If that is not good for you, let's go to Tri where there was a battle between Omnimon and Alphamon, and later on a battle between JESmon and Alphamon. Dispite that Alphamon brought out his axe immediately, the damage from the surrounding area was negligible and that is including a direct shot from Omnimon's supreme cannon into the ground. Even in the digital world where they would arguably be at their most powerful, their strikes don't even rustle the trees. The only one whom we have seen this over blown bluster be verified is Susanoomon in Frontier where he did slice the digital world in two and shortly after restored it. The greatest amount of damage we have ever seen a royal knight do is when Omnimon destroyed a mountain side with a single swipe of his sword. The greatest that you can say is that they survived a fight against ZeedMillenniumon who prefers to warp reality and use hax based abilities rather than pure power. That and the Dynasmon claim (which is nothing but hearsay and bluster and cannot be used on it's own as the basis for an argument) is from Xros Wars which threw away any sense of scaling and structure that the digital world had. It is pure bluster and hearsay that is very much common in both comics and anime and doesn't have the in universe position or reasoning to verify such a claim. You are just assuming that the guy knows what he is talking about and isn't bais or has a skewed perception of events to begin with. Battle with entities supposedly that strong would wipe everything around them clean because they may be that durable but I can garrenty you that the ground isn't. Such a claim is like saying that Heracles can beat Atlas in a arm wrestling contest with nothing to back it up. Destroying mountains with mere sword swings is impressive, but that is nothing compared to moving continents as if they were feathers. This is also with Titamon which you had nothing to say about, not the royal knights, not the Olympus 12. Titamon vs Regigigas, not anything else, bringing up hearsay, overblown bluster, and arbitrary comparisons that have nothing to do the original comment. You don't know what Titamon's capabilities are, you don't know how he fights, or what his capabilities are which by his own Bio suggests that he has to work his way up there by slaying others. He is not automatically planet destruction levels. If you want a debate, then being actual points that isn't bluster or saying that he wins just because he is a digimon dispite his opponent is one who moves continents and the very earth itself who has crafted entire armies of indestructible pillars to protect him for an unknown reason. I am assuming that Titamon is able to stand his own against such an opponent, and given the lack of information, that is awfully generous.

[@liampual9463]

@Andres Marrero You ignoring all of the points of my argument. When i brought up ebemon it was to act as an example showing that even a below average mega level digimon can be above continental. And no i never said ebemon is as strong as Susanoomon ebemon can destroy a planet while Susanoomon can recreate an entire digital world which are universes both destroying a planet is just a feat that both could perform it doesn't mean there the same level of strength. You don't understand the point of the area of effect fallacy.When characters are fighting each other they aren't trying to destroy the environment their trying to hurt the other combatants their attack are focused,condensed, and directed specifically at each other so in actuality their trying to break through each other durability not destroy the environment and it's that same durability of the characters that take the brunt of the impact and destruction that would be caused in the fight, that why destruction to the environment get limited in fights for many series. For example in the movie Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F' goku and freeza fight each other freeza in the past already destroyed a planet easily in his weakest form and in this movie both of them get even stronger and reach even stronger forms so their currently way above planet busting but when fighting each other the planet and terrain isn't destroyed this makes sense because their attacks are focused at each other not the planet and this is even proven at the end of the movie when after freeza is defeated and reverts to a weaker form with barley any energy left he destroys the plant just by punching it, this shows that attacks focused at the enemy are different than attacks focused at destroying the environment. Also you don't understand the Proof by example Fallacy when you keep bring up examples like tri and savers, because the digimon franchise is a multiverse saying that those examples are a definitive rule for how powerful every iteration of the royal knights or Olympus 12 are is incorrect when clearly different version have differing levels of power. For example in the Digimon Chronicle x those royal knights fought and defeated villains that were gonna the multiverse while the savers version of the royal knights all working together could barely hold up the weight of a digital world that clearly a huge difference in power and i know those were x-antibodies but the point still stands they are a version of royal knights. The same can said in pokemon with arceus, in the movie he with all of his plates almost lost to a meteor while the lore version in the pokedex created universes those are different versions and using the movie example as a definitive rule of power for every version of him is clearly wrong. Now with the Dynasmon statement you have to understand that when an author is writing a story they can't have the character destroy the entire setting their in when fighting or else it would completely derail the entire story so for an author to tell the audience how strong a character is they use statements and lore as evidence.Statements are more important than you think sayings it's just bluster or hearsay is incorrect by that same logic many of the pokedex's statements would be bluster or hearsay too because a lot of them haven't be shown,verified and down right don't make sense themselves. If the authors and creators didn't want Dynasmon to be that strong then why would they have that statement supporting it, they intentionly wrote that statement and wanted him to be that strong, it's your opinion to not believe it but it's the author that dictates canon and the author made that statement it's cemented in canon it can be used as evidence for scaling it's an official source. Also think of it from a narrative stand point why would Dynasmon use an attack that's below continental on a being that could destroy the multiverse if it was supposed to hurt it. Another thing is the xross wars manga does hold water for scaling because the manga in particularly acknowledges and references established lore,characters and history from previous series. For example that universes ULFORCEVDRAMON is actually zeromaru from the v-tamer manga he even acknowledge his past with his human partner the same thing applies to that manga's tailmon and wizardmon their from adventure. They acknowledge the event when Masaru fought Yggdrasill, they explain why digimon during xross wars do not evolve like they normal should do in the past. The manga clearly adheres to previously established canon of the franchise so it is a viable source of info. Also nice touch in insulting me by calling me a moron and saying i talk way too much even though you yourself wrote a lot and i only wrote a lot in response,as a tip when debating don't write long rants try to condense your comments or else it leads to this type of argument. I can tell your the type of guy to disagree with statements for power scaling and would rather follow your own beliefs on canon rather than that of creators or authors so go ahead comment your long rant to debunk my argument but i have better things to do with my life so I'll be the bigger man here and end my discussion here feel free to comment anytime you want.

[@Jail-sz6xs]

I thought digitamomon new magic he already new ancient language he read it on the stone soup spring faced dark wargraymon n also I thought he dark digivolved due to the emotional struggles he has

[@mightyandray7260]

I have my own theory maybe sense digitamomon isn’t supposed to be in wichery So he/she corrupted and dark digivolved

[@ToonerChris]

Wait! Wait! Wait! TITAN who MON? 13:32 That digimon looks DANGEROUS!!! His story is vary GOD OF WAR.

[@xDinomanx]

Yep, Titanmon's a fairly recent digimon Bandai invented and is confirmed as the true mega form of Ogremon (Goburimon by extension). The only thing that is missing is an official ultimate for that line.

[@ToonerChris]

@@xDinomanx DAM!!!!

[@LucyRoseLuna]

would a feminine version of titamon be called tittamon?