Explaining Digimon: PAILDRAMON & DINOBEEMON - DNA Digivolution [Digimon Conversation #49]

Let us take an IN DEPTH look at the DNA Digivolution's (Jogress Evolution) known as PAILDRAMON & DINOBEEMON. Both of them are a combination of Stingmon and ExVeemon. My question for you, WHAT are the reasons causing these two CHAMPIONS to fuse into either Paildramon or DinoBeemon?
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:10 Timestamps explained!
02:07 Explaining ExVeemon & Stingmon
05:27 Explaining Paildramon & DinoBeemon
09:40 Why two fusion variants?
19:30 Other fusions have also variants?
20:59 LAST COMMENT!
21:51 Video closure!
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[@jean-michelmansfield4083]

This has me wanting to see other fusion variants now

[@goldensunadept5091]

Thanks for shout-out Nostalgia95 :) Happy to help with bringing our Community Closer

[@terrysyvertson9205]

i think it depends on which digimon is leading in the digivolution, if it's exveemon then we'll get paildramon and if stingmon leads it'll be dinobeemon, in the anime exveemon was always the lead when dna digivolving

[@Notconceitedjustbetterthanyou]

Yeah nobody cares what you think

[@voltwolf9839]

@@Notconceitedjustbetterthanyou nobody cares about what you think either, the commenter just tried to explain what they thought and brought up facts to prove it. No reason to be mean

[@TheSenseOfNonsens]

@@Notconceitedjustbetterthanyou negative karma points 😬

[@michaelogara9056]

Maybe in the 02 anime would could of had a scene where Ken has a relapse of being dark, or being angry or something, and caused Dinobeemon to happen, that could of been interesting

[@SteampunkGentleman]

Loved the video, and I'm down to accept that Dinobeemon is the darker evolution path for the jogress, given it becomes GranKuwagamon, or the Black Imperialdramon line. I think another interesting way to look at it is, when it comes to the digimon who combine to become either jogress, like in the Pendulum Z and Vital Bracelet, if they don't reach their maximum level or potential, they get DBM. Perhaps it's them not becoming strong enough to overcome the Virus element in their DNA and thus, go down the darker path.

[@nicholase82]

Honestly I would like to see a video comparing the strengths and weaknesses of all Veemon forms.

[@dustinkanzlemar2237]

Wouldn't "Insect Defense" be the hard exoskeleton that insects tend to have?

[@andresmarrero8666]

That's what I thought as well.

[@Sliferslacker29]

@@andresmarrero8666 same here

[@slenderuncut1821]

and maybe also the fast reflexes

[@andresmarrero8666]

Yes Dinobeemon should have its own line and according to what I heard, Grankuwagamon was supposed to be the mega for dinobeemon before being reworked into being a generic endpoint for insect digimon. It even mirrors Imperialdramon almost perfectly.

[@diamonshade7484]

There's even grandiskuwagamon who a natural x antibody carrier

[@Zerum69]

My read of them is that Paildramon is the balanced fusion where both sides work together for the same goal, gaining both greater strength and greater inteligence, than what they would have on their own. Meanwhile Dinobeemon is a mutant, a mess, a failed fusion, they gain a lot of raw power by fusing just like in their "perfect fusion", but at the cost of the high levels of inteligence and self awareness they would have on their own, making them violent and erratic.

[@dracone4370]

On the subject of insects and spiders, it also comes down to body segments. Spiders, which are members of the arachnid family, have 2 body segments (the head and the abdomen) and 8 legs, the 8 legs are the most defining aspect of arachnids, all arachnids have 8 legs, but to my knowledge, only spiders have 2 body segments in conjunction with their 8 legs. Insects, on the other hand, have 6 legs and 3 body segments (the head, upper abdomen, and lower abdomen). Scorpions are also members of the arachnid family, but their set of rules are a bit more difficult to summarize. So, in a sense, Spiders and Scorpions are distant cousins, they both are offshoots from some ancient arachnid. Now, Paildramon further differentiates from Dinobeemon in that Paildramon further evolves into the mode-shifting dragon Imperialdramon, which I have recently managed to confirm is classified as a member of the Royal Knights. That all said, I have yet to find any media that depicts Dinobeemon having its own separate mega evolution, but I would suspect that a form that further expresses the insectoid aspects of its side of the line while hardly showing any physical dragon elements, much like in how Imperialdramon further expresses the dragon side of its line while hardly showing physical remnants of the Stingmon side of its line, could likely be possible.

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

I've heard Dinobeemon can naturally digivolve into Grankaugamon.

[@andresmarrero8666]

Paildramon's digivolution was only possible because of Azulongmon's intervention though. It would probably take similar interference for Dinobeemon's mega to come to be. Of course it might naturally form its own mega through digital life.

[@diamonshade7484]

@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 true but stingmon can do it too naturally but they both need to get a unique mega

[@theonewhoismany8072]

@@diamonshade7484 The GranKuwagamon that comes from Dinobeemon is said to be Imperialdramon Dragon Mode's counterpart.

[@Tioty86]

I think that the two variants are really based upon the restraint discussed in their champion levels. Both Exveemon and Stingmon have power and can control it to various degrees. However, it seems like Paildramon represent maintaining that balance while growing in strength. Dinobeemon appears to represent the other side of the coin, where the more feral aspects of both champions take over in the new form. It’s funny really, because earlier in the video you stated how a standard Veedramon is closer to a dinosaur than Exveemon. Yet, one if it’s potential Ultimates is conceived to have the term “Dino” in the name. Perhaps the less refined parts of Exveemon begin to emerge againand influence Stingmon in the new form? On a related note, Exveemon may be a cultivation of the standard Veedramon line as a whole. What makes me wonder about this is that Exveemon has wings and a more humanoid dragon structure. Veedramon only begins take on a more dragon like features from its Ultimate form and on. It also eventually becomes more humanoid when it gets to Mega. Like you said, some force may have taken the data associated with these features and “bred” or coded a better Vee-form Digimon based on the initial line. Kind of like version two software, with certain features being available earlier on.

[@crazymallets]

Another great video from Nostagia925. Personally, I think the reason we have two Jogresses for these Digimon is because they had to give WormMon something for the games and Digivices. Since Ankylomon, ExVeemon, and Aquilomon just got to use their Jogress forms as their Ultimate form, they needed something for wormmon so they gave him his own Jogress. From a Lore perspective, It think it just depends on who is leading the Jogress/serving as the main Digimon of the Jogress. Digimon evolve based on the data they absorbs, so if ExVeemon absorbs a bunch of Singmon like data through Jogress or winning fights, he can become Paildramon. If Stingmon however absorbs a bunch of ExVeemon like data either by jogress or winning fights, he become DinoBeemon.

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Man i cant get enough of your voice. I keep rewatching these video's

[@InvaderZim07]

Oh Wonderful!!! Dinobeemon is one of my favorite Digimon of all time! I’m excited for this!

[@winterkiwi3026]

My theory is that Pieldramon is made when the personality traits are equal, and dinodemon is made when one or the other personality traits are superior.

[@zixise]

I like that, it tracks pretty well.

[@mav4031]

Dragonball fusion rules ehh? Kinda

[@mav4031]

I'm more referring to when the fusion dance wasn't perfectly executed. The form is flawed

[@RC--pe5rz]

Amazing job as always

[@MajinBradPrime2]

I’d never heard of Dinobeemon until I came across his card in the TCH 1.5 booster thanks for the video!

[@bobsav76]

Incredible, thank you.

[@andresmarrero8666]

I would love it if you cover those digimon in the link I sent you. The Augumon × Veemon fusion really looks like a dragon gnome to me, and I love it.

[@josephwinborne3620]

You're literally the only KZbinr who I thumbs up. And I use KZbin a lot.

[@jman518192]

Brilliant simply brilliant 👏🏿 👏🏿

[@jackferring6790]

Another fun video, and its cool to again be featured, even if it felt my point was a little muddied in the end. I look forward to more videos from you in the future. Also I again would like to petition for Gotsumon to have its evolution lines broken down, though I don't feel like giving the whole paragraph spiel for the sixth or so time.

[@thequeernote]

I love how it says "letztes Video" in the end card. 🥰🇩🇪

[@MarcusRalphson]

it simply depends which digimon absorbs the other. its the same with silphymon/angewomon and shakkoumon/magnanangemon

[@gamezx]

An idea for the future, maybe do a video on numemon and it's line? Its one of those classic digimon which seems to have many different variants and lines to explore. Also could be interesting seeing how it seems to happen when a digivolution fails or goes wrong

[@wilkinscoffee7166]

My question is what other are all fusions like this? Like for example is Silphymon(The fusion and Aquilamon and Gotomon/tailmon) like Dinobeemon and Paildramon are all fusions like this and just haven't been attempted yet?

[@kingdragoonmk10]

Could also be that the DinoBeemon's unstable Evolution resulted in the combined mind of the two becoming degraded rather than smoothly uniting and thus more feral, violent, and instinctual As with some Mental disorders or brain affecting disease's like Rabies

[@josea.ruizquinones9262]

Insect defense comes in three forms in most media: 1) their small size and speed allowing for great evasion. 2) their strong chitin carapace protecting them from physical attacks kinda like a suit of armor. 3) their high-grade regeneration capabilities. In the context of Paildramon, its the second as it gains chitin armor on top of its draconic scales. The personality change with Stingmon to Dinobeemon can also be attributed to it being unable to contain the dragon blood it inherited with the fusion. Dragon blood in most media is portrayed as transformative to creatures who consume it, but devolving their minds to more primitive states of violence. You could even thing of it as Stingmon regressing to a pre-historic ancestral-like form through the fusion.

[@krististewart9693]

There should be a full video of dinobeemon. 😁

[@theonewhowatches869]

Thinking about it, one deciding factor as to whether they Jogress into Paildramon or Dinobeemon, may actually be dependent on XV-mon. XV-mon is a sort of 'descendant' of V-dramon right? Well, V-dramon have a shortened lifespan due to constantly overwriting their data to get stronger, perhaps XV-mon still does something similar, though likely not as much. Under this theory, when an XV-mon that's older or has had more overwrites Jogresses with Stingmon, the data corrupts or 'mutates' into Dinobeemon.

[@thedizzytuna]

Insects are incredibly durable and their chitinous exoskeletons are like a natural suit of armor. The only reason some people think they aren't incredibly tough and durable is because of their tiny size. Something like stingmon or paildramon would have insane defensive potential because of their exoskeletons

[@chocho6940]

Could you try discussing Hudiemon? She is a very cool digimon and is quite special on how she came into existence. Hacker’s Memory is probably giving a better explanation though-

[@kitsu1379]

I mean is she really any different from the biomerging in Digimon Tamers? I've not gotten to that point in Hacker's Memory yet but I know she's made from Erika's memory data and Wormmon merging. It doesn't seem too different from Bio-Merging except all components are digital.

[@miteihiro3283]

It's basically Erika fusing with herself in a Wormmon body. Wormmon still retains most of its personality before the fusion, but Erika has modified it to the point that it literally knows everything about her. It's like Biomerging, yes, but there's so much of Erika in there that Hudiemon basically scraps any semblance of Wormmon's spirit. Also the form is only a champion-level, and from what I remember, the stats reflect that. It's a very good topic, I wouldn't mind seeing a video on this too.

[@brycenmartin1195]

Honestly when I always read how Exveemon is the pure breed I always thought that was the original or true evolution to veemon and Veedramon was the "downgrade" of sorts

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

Doesn't explain why Veedramon has its own line, but Exveemon doesn't. Also, Veemon has a really strong line, two Royal Knights plus the founder.

[@brycenmartin1195]

@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 it could come down to that Exveemon is just the older line and its evolution line was lost we could get one for him later on considering we got a full line for Stingmon in 2014

[@zenvariety9383]

@@brycenmartin1195 yeah, a season two to the Digimon Adventure reboot could give us a line for ExVeemon.

[@kadapbanar]

Nah, veedramon digivolution line is stronger actually, exveemon stuck on adult form.

[@zenvariety9383]

@@kadapbanar That might be true, but Exveemon could shine with its own line.

[@ChaosOverlord115]

I love watching these videos keep up the amazing work, but I was wondering if you plan on continuing the armour digivolution series, I don't want to sound pushy or needy but I would love to see Hawkmon's armour digivolutions.

[@Sliferslacker29]

I think a video comparing the two versions of Cherubimon would be interesting. As well as a video comparing Gallantmon/Dukemon to Megidragon and Chaos Gallantmon/Chaos Dukemon.

[@BlackRedDragon777]

Vmon also had data from his armor evolutions while stingmon had to dedigivolve to an egg after sacrificing to save his master

[@DJNightchild]

Just a small heads-up. Dinobeemon has a official Digivolution into Mega. That is GranKuwagamon. Despite what it's name suggests, it wasn't originally meant as a digivolution of Okuwamon (Okuwamon has HerculesKabuterimon as a shared Mega Digivolution with MegaKabuterimon).

[@PyroKitsuna11]

I think it would be a fun vid to explain all armor digievolutions n why they became that way from the base

[@johngrant8390]

I always saw Dinobeemon as a forced DNA digivolution, I can definitely see this happening in a situation similar to SkullGreymon.

[@marinesoler523]

Oh, yeah pls!! I wanna see Fanarts 🤩 would really like to see a 'mutant' - form of the other DNA digimon. Stay healthy!

[@andresmarrero8666]

I personally just see it as a different result as there are countless different ways for the elements to pair off and combine. Though DNA digivolution probably has a high mutation rate anyway. After all you are smashing two completely different digital sequences together. Errors and corruption or changes in code has got to be a commonality which just expands the possible results even more.

[@kitofthewind]

So on the theory/idea that whoever has more data/power drives what fusion they get. That would imply there is a third unseen form. For when they're both equal instead of one being superior.

[@baraka1906]

You should cover some of the other jogress evolutions!

[@Cosmopolit257]

Ah Yes Finally a new Video

[@KOTK11]

My thoughts on the matter are as follows. The two take different aspects of the personality. Exveemon is protective but ferocious, while stinging is lethal but calm. Paildragon gets the calm and protective aspects, while dinobeemon gets the ferocious and lethal aspects. I also think that the mutation explanation for there even being a second form works best. Mutations interfering with the fusion would explain there being a malicious mindset.

[@richarddelaney9593]

Hi Nostalgia, could you do a video on hawkmon. I love your videos. Thx

[@ironrex6979]

I think this is an interesting video but I think the problem is the over focus on the USA translation DNA-Digivolution. It paints it as something more biological when it’s not. Digimon are just data. The actual term is Jogress. A fusion of the words Joint Progress. The original concept that was used for the D-3 Digivice (as well as Pendulum/Pen Prog/PenX/Accel) it’s just Stingmon taking part of EXVeemon’s data in order to evolve to the next level. Jogress is a short cut to evolution. Joint as in group and progress is pretty self explanatory. The duo share data to help one another evolve to the next level. Also Jogress is not to be confused with Fusion. A Jogress is when two Digimon’s combine to achieve a higher level. Fusion is two Digimon evolving into a Digimon of the same level as one or more of it’s components. The Omegamons, Chaosmon, Ordinemon, Ogudomon, etc. are fusions. Also Shakomon is based of Arabaki a prehistoric Japanese Diety of the Earth. In Digimon it’s represented as a Jogress of Ankylomon prehistoric and earth attribute (in some games) + Angemon holy attribute Divine Angel. Since they are data their attributes can combine and the result doesn’t have to look like it’s pre-evos. Dinobeemon also has it’s own evo line. It’s the original prevo is GranKuwagamon. That’s why GranKwagamon looks so much like Imperialdramon (Dragon mode). Plus there’s GrandisKuwagamon that’s pretty much Fighter modes equivalent, although it’s an X-Antibody. Still very interesting video. I’m a big fan of Wormon’s whole evo line. Be it Stingmon, Dinobeemon, Grankuwagamon, Jewelbeemon, and Banchostingmon.

[@JustSpag]

while I largely agree, I don't fully subscribe to the idea that these mutations mean the jogress went awry. Influenced is a wording I agree with much more. It was likely a jogress where the Stingmon had more data absorbed from other digimon, yes. But reasons for this mutation could simply be due to something that made it more aggressive, regardless of the way it enjoys a bit of brutality. Many digimon are simply martial creatures.

[@rhod2486]

Cool intro

[@killetowin]

i think that was either a forces dna digivolution when one of the party was forced into fusion with the other or it could be combing of the parts of the two like kimeramon to try getting the strength and defensin of paildramon but into a soilder

[@CoffinKidHxC]

I like to think whichever of the two has the stronger will defines which digimon it becomes

[@Talestale]

I think is more simple it is the soul of the digimon that determines what they turn into and the circumstances at hand, if two are calm and take there time with the fusion then there more likely to become a Paildramon but if they are being rushed or both are uncertain of fusing then its more likely a Dinobeemon would form BUT its not for certain after all we are talking about creatures how can be the size of a Chihuahua and have the destructive force of a nuclear warhead

[@Talestale]

I know you don't usually do a fan request video but I was hoping you could do one on vampires and myotismon

[@191CrazyJ191]

Any chance you could do Crescemons line? It has such an interesting design and it's really hard to find a copy of DW Dusk to play

[@mauropinto1277]

Well my theory about which digivolution happens has a bit more to do with the videogames, where the final digivolution depends on the kind of exp gained. Specifically i would say that it depends on how many dragon digimon or insect digimon they defeat and how much data they absorb from the beaten digimon, just like food can affect some insects (like how feeding a bee larvae royal jelly and not pollen or honey can make bee larvae become a queen bee), some absorbed insect data could affect the digivolution transforming not only the body, but also the personality of the digimon, like how kuwagamon and other insect digimon might have more of an irritateable personality from their "insect brain" that data can also be part of what is used in the dna digivolution

[@matthewdodd1262]

Can we please have a video exploring Chaosmon, Chaosmon Valdur Arm and UltimateChaosmon, their atribues and why BanchLeomon Dna digivoled into these digimon?

[@demetriechurchwell1338]

Can you do a video about bargramon and lucemon who came first and who was the higher level angel digimon

[@demetriechurchwell1338]

Can you do a video with your thoughts on devilmon true mega form is it donidevimon or daemon love your thought on it Or patmon new mega form to goldramon instead of seraphimon

[@KvngLenX]

If you don’t mind can you make a video on why exveemon can digivolve by it self

[@goni2493]

Loving these videos about the Digimon. I always wonder if you could do a video on Gallantmon Crimson mode. I have been thinking about the design of Crimson Mode. Due to the 10 angel wings, it makes me question if he's part of the angel family, along withbeing based on either Ragule The Angel of Justice or Uriel The Gate Keeper .

[@andresmarrero8666]

That is probably Takato's influence rather than Guilemon's.

[@goni2493]

@@andresmarrero8666 well outside of anime lore.

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@goni2493 in this case the two are tied by the hip as the guilemon line did not exist before Takato made them up and created them. For singular digimon like this line, Omnimon, and Imperialdramon paladin mode are fundamental tied to such lore as the events cannot be replicated. In short these digimon's existence is tied to the anime's events and the circumstances that gave rise to them in the first place.

[@3s7acad0]

Got to this one late, oops. It's generally considered that Grankuwagamon is the intended final form of Dinobeemon, at least that's how it is in the games and v-pets. Coincidentally I raised my own Grankuwagamon in a v-pet tournament I'm currently taking part in lol

[@minedantaken1684]

VilliamBoom is such a great artist and cool person!

[@wavykcooks]

Do a video about how does fusing work in Digimon

[@dangreen6901]

Actually Dinobeemon dose have a mega level Digivolution in GrandKawagamon. If you look at the body structure of GrandKawagamon and compare it to Dinobeemon's you get a lot of similarities. You get even more if you compare GrandKawagamon with Imperialdramon: Dragon Mode.

[@someindoguyyoudontneedtokn9007]

True I feel that Dinobeemon is the true digivolution line for Grankuawagamon rather than ookuwamon

[@theonewhoismany8072]

Gran Kuwagamon has even been stated to be Imperialdramon Dragon Mode's counterpart.

[@DONQUIIIXOTE]

You should do a vid on the lore of four great dragons, slayerdramon’s "Trial of the Four Great Dragons" and examon the dragon emperor 🤔

[@georgerodriguez7160]

Hay would you do a review of chaos and guardian from digimon world 2

[@foxeye245]

I am no expert when it comes to digimon, but I do remember Wormmon sacrificing itself before it ever evolved. I would assume that means it basically needs to restart compared to Veemon who didn’t.

[@miikaelkaup811]

i would have thought that it has most to do with the selective breeding aspect, since the strenght of ex-veemons genes comes from that, if it is a less advanced form, it is more likely to caude dinobeemon.

[@lukewilliams733]

I have a question, what if paildramon and dinobeemon DNA digivolve which one would be more dominant

[@enmadaniaisabel1552]

I LOVE THEM UwU CAN PAILDRAMON AND DINOBEEMON DO A FUSION?

[@booyah344]

That'd be like Vegito and Gogeta fusing

[@andresmarrero8666]

The mind of one and the body of the other.

[@enmadaniaisabel1552]

@@booyah344 YEAH I WAS THINKING ON GOGETTO XD

[@Lahiss]

Aren't GrandKuwagamon and GrandisKuwagamon the Imperialdramon parallers for Dinobeemon?

[@alexolivas3924]

Can you make a video of Mastemon. Angewomon and lady devimon dna evolution Plz!!!! 🙏🏼

[@Pridam]

What I find interesting is that in the games, Wormmon's natural ultimate form is Dinobeemon and his mega is GranKuwagamon. Now what I find interesting is that it does NOT say that he has to jogress with X-Vmon to become Dinobeemon

[@robzevin9879]

Paildramon>XVmon head exoskeleton covered,Stingmons arm,XVmon legs and wings Dinobeemon>Stingmons head, XVmon arms,Stingmon legs and wings

[@prototipolq-84i46]

And kunemon/flymon

[@andresmarrero8666]

It could also be how the particular elements end of mixing and combining. Some combinations do not mix well even if you have the exact same components, with there being different results. As we can see with Dinobeemon the result was not a good one at least mentally. A dragon's aggresiveness combined with an assassin's killer instinct and analytical skills is not a good combination. However physically the traits mixed almost ideally with how Dinobeemon is superior in physical capabilities and is more efficient in its attacks and combat. They really are two sides of the same coin, and I believe that the dragons roar data caused the mutation, after all if you are mixing DNA sequences together like that, they you better expect quite a few mutations.

[@cuddlesworthceangal6612]

Wasn't the black variation of imperialdramon? more evil/virus like i just feel it would ultimately become that

[@michaelogara9056]

What is that opening song?

[@WolfBoy83090]

I think they should add two more fusions here with stingdrakemon where its a more perfect version of dinobeemon and beevedramon a failed pialdramon

[@rikuto6690]

I think dinobeemon evolution like would be imperialdramon-like since he own the same roots as paildramon but more violent version, more war-like something for an exemple "Berserkerdramon" maybe

[@blazesona12]

umm.... the veedramon line does get winds but not till it reaches the ultimate/perfect level form called aeroveedramon if i rember right while as you know the xveemon line has it at the champion level instead of needing to reach its 2nd evolution

[@FateburnXVII]

going off on the recessive genes, would that not also imply that dinobeemon also came into existence due to veemon being able to also digivolve into veedramon. it's possible that veedramon's data might be hidden within exveemon's and when they dna-digivolved it might have been the cause of the mutation of the data. i would also like to point out how paildramon and dinobeemon both stand differently. while paildramon stands up straight like exveemon, dinobeemon is more hunched over, kind of like how veedramon is kind of slightly hunched over.

[@aliastheabnormal]

When it comes to combat experience. I believe Veemon and Wormon from 02 are kinda equal. Since they actually had previous adventures with Ryo Akiyama in secondary material. There's also the consideration that Wormon died in 02 and was reborn and while Wormon did reach his natural mega as Gran Kuwagamon. He could have been reset when he died.

[@mjrodriguez8619]

I could be totally wrong but I read in the comments on one video that Guilmon could have been a mutant variant of Agumon? That takato created him as such because he wanted a stronger agumon, is that true? Could explain their similar evolution styles

[@resh7164]

intro song?

[@TriEdge10]

While watching the video a comment you made struck me “veedramon looks more like a dinosaur”. What if dinobeemon results from a exveemon that hasn’t reached the full perfection of it’s dragon genes also giving it a more dinosaur like personality and appearance from the veedramon genes that still linger in the exveemon. It would also explain why pialdramon has wings that more resembles exveemon while dinobeemon takes the wings from stingmon as the veedramon dna has no wings to get in the way.

[@eleinpulpines3564]

I have a doubt. if apocalymon is caused by negative emotions. wouldn't that make it similar to titamon on the iliad server?

[@ThiefofFlames]

To me it seem like it should have been a DNA digivoled of veemon and wormon into dinobeemon and be the champion form that could digivoled into paildramon. That's what design wise it looks like to me

[@quatreiquorizawa1284]

Check the cool paildramon toy. It would be cool if it can also transform to dynobeemon

[@xDinomanx]

I do not think that theory that Veemon in Adventure 02 had more data/battle experience than Wormmon is true at all. My reason for that is because Wormmon actually was around much longer, back when Ken was much younger and he was in the digital world with his brother (who of course tragically dies as we find out). Wormmon actually was around for a long time so it's entirely possible that Stingmon also appeared during that time too. Still I am inclined to agree that the one with the more predominant personality traits is what determines which of the two jogress's they become.

[@Solqueen86]

If 02 had a darker arc or changed the Resuce Agumon/Ending Kimeramon arc Dinobeemon could have been the result of a forced Jogress Evolution by Ken (Digimon Kaiser) using Veemon as material and Stingmon as the lead. For a while Dinobeemon is basically doing as Dark Soul fans would call it a Progress Check taking out the rest of the digicrew easily but slowly becomes more feral and loses control. Maybe Paildramon comes later when Davis and a regretful Ken after the arc ends with Wormmon being killed and reborn are teaming up

[@nicholase82]

You know I think that Dinobeemon is more of a brute force digimon than Paildramon who has weapons growing on its body. On an unrelated topic I wonder how both of these digimon would fair against Aero V-Dramon?

[@theonewhoismany8072]

Aero Veedramon is a Perfect with power surpassing powerful Ultimates. His V-Breath Arrow can one shot Perfects,and send flying powerful Ultimates like Omegamon. His V-Wing Blade can one shot Ultimates. His Wind Guardian can Block attacks from Deathmon whose attacks blow holes in the fabric of space-time. He cricket Deathmon's body with a single punch,beheaded Venom Vamdemon with one punch and opened a huge hole in his body with a second one,severely damaged Piemon with basic punches, grabbed Omegamon by the cape and used it to throw him into the ground, shattering the stone ground in the process,broke the rocks impaling his wings with his sheer anger. This is Zero before the Overrite. After the Overrite he developed the Magnum Crush tehnique that allowed him to heavily wound Omegamon,gained a really powerful technique, Dragon Impulse, that can obliterate above average Ultimate digimon with just a single attack (like Metamormon). Even the strongest Ultimates such as Omegamon are seriously injured if they receive a direct impact from this technique. This technique is so powerful, that he is forbidden to use it again because it shortens his lifespan every time he uses it. His overwrite had another effect however. He had powered up as if he had evolved, without evolving. Now he was as powerful as an Ultimate digimon on his own. He is able to fight on an equal footing against Callismon (a digimon who can casually destroy average Ultimates like Boltmon with his claws), and later even overpowers him, punches Arkadimon so hard that his head faces the wrong way afterwards. His power got so absurd that he could create holes in the fabric of space-time just by sneezing. Aero Veedramon wins easily.

[@xero1048]

I just wanna know what xveemon’s original ultimate would have been, had he digivolved naturally without DNA digivolution. Would this ultimate still digivolve to imperialdramon? Or something else entirely?

[@proclarushtaonasat]

I think, the dna digivolutions are supposed to be their ultimates. in one of the D3 digivice toys, angewomon and magna angemon are also the result of dna digivolutions, if initiated by patamon or gatomon. (although that toy had two gatomons, both as rookie and champion). And in digimon world 2003, veemon is unlocked by obtaining DDNA from paildramon, where all other partner digimon are unlocked by optaining DDNA from their regular ultimate. The reason for DinoBeemon being the only alternate DNA digivolution, is that otherwise, wormon would have no ultimate level of its own, whereas gatomon and patamon still had their regular ultimates. at least from a marketing point of view, thats prolly the reason. its not a biological reason or anything.

[@theonewhoismany8072]

@@proclarushtaonasat Wormmon has Jewel Beemon as an alternate Perfect.

[@asdergold1]

Mention that xros came way after the creation of most digimon. Dinobeemon included. Might be a forced dna evolution, one gone wrong, like a dark evolution or one is more dominant for whatever reason. One way would be which is the lead or the recessive genes. The DS games exist. Also the thing with digimon is that evolutions may come from different places and result in the same. Which is why more then one theory may be right.

[@BMazeing]

Does anyone else think that Omnimon is somewhat of a strange fusion in that the main body isn't really representative of WarGreymon or MetalGarurumon? It's almost as if a humanoid white digimon performed a DigiXros with WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon, obtaining their weapons. However, the DNA Digivolution of Omnimon clearly proves true due to the fusion of consciousness, so its definitely not a Xros. Just an interesting design.

[@MarcusRalphson]

dinobeemons mega is grankuwagamon. thats why its free attribute

[@andrewmunro4884]

After hearing about dinobeemon it’s a shame we never got to see it in the anime as a forced digivolution scene, that would have been awsome. Also who do you think would win in a no holding back fight to the death? Paildramon or dinobeemon?

[@TheShadowInTheMask]

Perhaps it is the result of whether the two digimon have a tamer or not, i.e. a contolled/disciplined fusion or a wild(mutant) one. And to the question at the end IMO dinobeemon should be a dead end evolution excepting some shenanigans.

[@oceanman2.O_TheOne]

This is gonna sound weird but. I learned about Dinobeemon 1st before paildramon. Wanna know how? Is that I was looking up. “Dinosaur digimon” (ima dinosaur fan) and that’s how I learned about dinobeemon.

[@nickd6303]

Maybe Dinobeemon will be treated as dark digivelotion in the 2020 series and maybe it will get a separate evolution to parralel Imperialdramon.

[@danielsgames8810]

I actually draw them last year

[@booyah344]

4:44 press for justice

[@joaocisne556]

well, v-mon did not died before, while wormmon had