Explaining The Belmont's Bizarre Hitboxes (Smash Ultimate)

[@nfrmptbongo9439]

"Being a zoner character, it makes sense his dash isn't that good." Snake: 👀

[@brain_tonic]

@Adan Valenzuela Samus: 👀

[@pumpkinpeen5937]

Brain Tonic Mega Man: 👀

[@gabescala4558]

@@brain_tonic samus dash is insane now

[@brain_tonic]

@@gabescala4558 It was pretty good even before the buff.

[@leoleo4469]

good dash? infinite recovery? ledge-trap game better than a character with most specials being easily used for ledge-trapping? snake is s tier

[@EthanGrantC]

"We're actually taking a look at one of my mains" After every single move: "This move is really bad"

[@chrispo7610]

Belmont hitboxes seriously make me cry

[@ck11032]

to be fair, the character sucks.

[@OFSheep]

Belmont players want to like his moves. Want to.

[@fissilewhistle]

Because somebody on the Smash team decided “Hey, let’s make a mid screen zoner, but let’s not actually allow him to anything that’s not in a straight line!”

[@newdivide9882]

Finding out the character you really like and generally do well with factually sucks is surreal to say the least

[@leaffinite2001]

You are telling me those beefy arms are the weakest part of every move? Damn.

[@eldritchexploited5462]

The virgin muscles vs. The CHAD big metal spike ball

[@robin9793]

Ikr

[@seabassthegamer6644]

It's a rotation thing. The whip has to keep up with the rotation of the arm, and to do so, it moves farther in the same timeframe, having more energy, more hitting force, ect. The big beefy arms provide the power, but they aren't what's supposed to be hitting the opponent, so the arm movement won't properly apply hitting force to the opponent. Whip technique isn't very good for punching.

[@copenwiththestress3732]

@@seabassthegamer6644 Yo bro thats pretty cool but I dont remember asking

[@leaffinite2001]

@@seabassthegamer6644 yeah i know, plus their arms arent made out of steel. i was just being silly lol. They are so beefy, yknow, haha

[@ok-lm4wf]

belmont's bizarre hitboxes: phantom blood

[@beenep5029]

But Joseph was in part 2 and 3

[@beenep5029]

0:51 you get the joke

[@Pootis-hn3ky]

Belmont’s bizarre hitboxes: spam is unbeatable

[@josiahm.8711]

I was just thinking of that lol

[@zanyskeleton5291]

Woomy 2443 Belmonts bizarre adventure: spamming tendencies

[@PlumEXE]

6:25 “moving on to forward air, and we have a fair bit to talk about”. I see what you did there

[@DrMcSpankus]

*Pit's* *Pitiful* *Hitboxes* I beg of you, my mans needs some attention drawn to how pathetic most of his hitboxes are :|

[@erikcarp9359]

Yes!

[@exodus5187]

100% agree

[@N12015]

They're just average, as EVERYTHING in Pit. The problem is the inconsistency (looking at you, second worst up-air in the game) and that bad frame data in the air (only N-air comes before frame 10. Even GANONDORF and KING K. ROOL have more fast aerial options). And NO, fast smash attacks aren't enough to compensate. In that aspect he reminds me of Kirby, so I can fell your pain Pit mains.

[@jupiter843]

I'm sorry to say, but I don't think he's gonna look at a character with no hitboxes lol. I'm kidding, I'm kidding

[@oireal7261]

@@N12015 As Little Mac exists, I don't think any other set of aerials comes close to being the "worst" in the game. Pit's Uair covers alot of space and catches airdodges nicely. It is extremely inconsistent but their are worse offenders (Sonic/Shulk). Slower aerials also aren't the end of all things. If they hit hard, cover a large space, combo easily or are lethal than being slow is a suitable issue. Just think of how much people complain about Palutena's aerials. Imagine if Pit's Nair had less landing lag and better hitboxes. It'd be insanity lol

[@enriquedonatobalagtas4662]

Corrin's Comedic hitboxes Her up tilt is weird and side b doesn't even have a bit box throughout the whole dragon lance. And some of her attacks leave out the tip of her sword

[@FoxMcCloud3173]

It is sad that people just refer to their female alts as default

[@goldenspy0]

@@FoxMcCloud3173 I mean, if you use male Corrin you're a psychopath tbo D:

[@zohras4588]

@@goldenspy0 what of you a straight girl?

[@non-existentasukamain766]

Rip male Corrin, forgotten by yet another horny player

[@researchinbreeder]

I use f!Corrin whenever i play the character bc m!Corrin's voice is grating af. Robin is a bit better so I alternate between the two. #BlackEaglesHouse so I'm contractually obligated to play Edelgard Byleth. And Wii Fit's default is female so on the off chance I use her thats what it is.

[@L1N3R1D3R]

Since item projectiles can now have hitbox visualizations, can we get a bonus episode of all the item projectiles for the characters you have already made hitbox videos on?

[@Triforce_of_Doom]

I second this

[@mr.thekid3827]

I just wanna see a hitbox video of all items XD

[@ABAgamer_]

Fun Fact: Ironic as the title “Belmont’s Bizarre Hitboxes” is to Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure, both voice actors for Simon and Richter have voiced in the English Dub of the anime, with Simon’s voice actor playing the role of Speedwagon for Parts 1 & 2 and Richter’s voice actor playing the role of the narrator throughout all the dubbed parts so far.

[@Dio-fk2gc]

oh my god how did i not know about this

[@FelisBX7]

I’M NEVER USING RICHTER EVER AGAIN I’M GONNA BE PLAYING WITH MY MAN SPEEDWAGON

[@ggnicklu]

i did NOT expect that ending oh god I'm dying

[@oireal7261]

It's always interesting seeing how precise hitboxes are often times more detrimental despite looking cleaner and fitting the animation more. With Belmont's f-tilt, they can't just extend the hitbox down without it looking odd. I could see them moving both the animation and hitbox down though.

[@MSCDonkeyKong]

you can just make it a taller hitbox though

[@azizalreyahi7081]

@@MSCDonkeyKong hi how can I di from holy water pls guide me

[@benryan6130]

@@azizalreyahi7081 learn how to sdi

[@dongzuyamishikong]

@@azizalreyahi7081 look up how to sdi on youtube

[@ZX_STH]

"Moving on to FORWARD AIR we have a FAIR bit to talk about" Ok.

[@Liam-dt7mp]

ok.

[@tonysfreshpepperoni4802]

Ok.

[@runman624]

Well he needed to move forward to next topic

[@georgegkoumas5026]

@@runman624 yeah, if people are mad they just have to wait for him to show the other aerials, till then they just have to b-air with it

[@edgelord8337]

There's one thing in life that I can't deal with Duel Belmont online with no team attack and using projectile spam. But really the belmonts are just having a jojo adventure at this point.

[@memperkasaya2078]

Cute reference but Jojo sucks

[@Blazedlevelbort]

ok edgelord boi

[@BENJA021100]

@@memperkasaya2078 nah jojo it's pretty good, it was a very good read for me, the only problem it's the fanbase being autistic

[@mongoosedoesmagic6478]

Wow edge lord, what a great comment

[@rompevuevitos222]

@@BENJA021100 I just wonder what it's even about, some ppl say it's about a mafia, there's also some weird alien/ghosts, everyone dresses with more colors than the MLP characters and aparently there's a vampire too? i really don't understand

[@uhhhCheese]

10:55 That was a beautiful transition

[@dddmemaybe]

I didn't even notice. it was so clean like going into a fresh hotel you never think of who had to clean it before you came in lol.

[@arufa4550]

I didn't notice cuz I was focusing on little mac

[@prestononuselogu9973]

I don't understand

[@Randallroks]

If you love something, you always gotta acknowledge its flaws. The fact that this man called out so much flaws is a testament to how much he enjoys playing Richter.

[@4xzx4]

Sadly this is shunned in the Smash community... For some stupid reason...

[@Creepo_J]

*Incineroar!!1 >:D*

[@nicholasviggiano4805]

@@4xzx4 because it turns into the pity olympics

[@Karttibone]

Being experienced at a character kinda also makes you fall into the trap of "my character should be better". For example the comparison to Snake I don't get. Snake's moves are stronger have less lag and better hit boxes. But you can't chain them at all due to endlag and the Belmonts have extreme range with their whip on all jabs and airs in addition to being able to angle them.

[@thatonegaminglatias4345]

Yoooooooooo

[@nicholaszetterman565]

Smash attacks: clackers. Up B, also clackers. Side B, boomerang clackers. Down B, flammable gas (as seen in the Wammu fight) and neutral B can be the axe Joseph uses to cut off stroheim’s leg

[@Liggliluff]

(7:20) But the move still has a unique animation for when the whip hits the wall. It makes no sense that a character doesn't get hit in front of the wall. When this wall-hit animation plays, they should lock a hitbox to the end of the whip, so it still can hurt, but doesn't go through the wall.

[@austin2594]

Yeah it basically puts anyone that’s against the way the advantage we’re in any other scenario they should have the disadvantage

[@henroik83]

Vampire Hunters with Bizarre in the title? I believe what we have here fellas is a JoJo reference

[@mudalubricant9603]

I'm choking on the idea of star platinum and The world.

[@jhozan]

How many people have you camped out on elite smash?! How many breads have you eaten in your life?

[@dddmemaybe]

Zero plays smash ultimate. Dio: Lets go to macdonaritsu.

[@geo4290]

Arsene goes おらおらおらおら against Zelda's phantom that goes 無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄無駄

[@robin9793]

You JoJo fans invade every corner of the internet, please never change

[@sinom_00]

It bothers me that you talk about "richter's" moves when he IS technically the clone character, but i guess it bothers me more that they even made him and simon seperate characters.

[@memperkasaya2078]

I just wanted Alucard man

[@nerddwarf]

@@Point5_ Dark Samus has a different roll Richter can hit red pikmin with down special Daisy HAD (in the past) different radishes

[@RealityMasterRogue]

It bothers me that so few people play simon even though hes way better :( Richter's some punk while simon's actually cool

[@Luigiofthegods]

I swear that every clone pair could be differentiated by just making one a floaty and one a fastfaller, Marth/Roy-style

[@tracythomas4700]

@@RealityMasterRogue but Richter is way cuter.

[@FalcoVille]

As guilty as I feel for saying this, I still have a ton of fun playing the Belmonts.

[@zyul6420]

They are fun.. just not for your opponent

[@mrflitcher8448]

I love playing them too it's like a guilty pleasure almost lol

[@ethanrabbitts9906]

Good. Wouldn't want to let people know you're having fun playing smash Bros

[@dr.doofenward1192]

It’s fun to use combos without the specials

[@quirinwinsta1899]

Yes, a true character for the blind. I literally have beaten a friend of mine blindfolded and I was dying when I won

[@robin9793]

I was about to publicly shame you for playing Richter until I remembered I main Game and Watch

[@alisona.4166]

Well, I was about to shame you, then I realized that I main R.O.B.

[@TripleJump]

Well, I can publicly shame both of you without hypocrisy because I main Marth. Or I was about to, until I remembered I secondary Inkling.

[@dbrainstorm]

As a Mac main, I can actually shame you all. Ha. Ha ha. Ha

[@GhostRider67854]

I was gonna publicly shame you all but I main olimar

[@robin9793]

@@dbrainstorm Nice, we can laugh at you instead

[@Stop.Arguing]

*Belmonts' I expect to be paid by next Wednesday.

[@YourAverageLink]

Link's Ludicrous Hitboxes Who needs a Hylian Shield when your nair basically uses the Iron Boots

[@_-Dante-_]

Wall detection boxes? What a horrible night to have a curse...

[@lennyface5314]

16:07 for anyone that missed this masterpiece

[@TommyCD1]

Shout outs to the 2frame at 11:11

[@hogoototwilightian628]

Ayy, I respect you playing Richter, he's a cool technical character and all. But what about my man SIMON tho?

[@llmkursk8254]

He's buffer.

[@ompatel187]

Simon is worse due to down special

[@DrMcSpankus]

Simon is a shitty character. I’d say Richter is a solid mid tier though.

[@VaultSSB]

@@ompatel187 Simon's down special is actually the slightly better one

[@thor10001]

@@VaultSSBThe only difference is that Richter's can hit red pikmin, while Simon's cannot. This makes Richter's is very slightly better, but this will almost never come into play.

[@azophi]

Yeah I'd love to see Simon's/Richters grab range and speed buffed slightly That's about it :)

[@ButterStick64]

14:08 I completely agree. In UMVC3, Morrigan is a better zoned than 4 other characters designed for zoning. And she does it with a single special move and single super move.

[@KeleuHerdley]

4:51 ACTUALLY: The super sour spot of up tilt can true combo into up b.

[@flatziswashed]

ACKSHUAWLY

[@petery6432]

Ike's incredible hitboxes or Pit's pitiful hitboxes next?

[@lpfan4491]

5:35 oh god, it is melee bowser again(well, except that the grab actually covers the entire characters hand this time)

[@oopsiexistnow]

Finally my main. I’ve had many main crises in my years of smash ultimate, but every time, through every phase, Wolf, Roy, Ridley, Joker, Terry, Ken, Monado Boy, after all of them, I still come back home, to Richter “Die Monster” “Down B” Belmont

[@AverageHandle_]

Belmont’s Bizarre Adventure

[@ivorreal]

🖕

[@PrettyKoolCrocodile]

Lmfao

[@Rarest26]

Spammer Crusaders

[@AverageHandle_]

Rarest WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT MY GAMEPLAY

[@envan7865]

“Being a zoner means you have to have a bad recovery Laughs in Mega Man

[@djkdrums88]

A super sour spot underneath the whip would actually be really nice. Sometimes his f-tilt is almost totally useless against shorter characters not because they're deliberately ducking to avoid, but merely because they're.. moving. lol.

[@Jeejington]

Something that made me soo mad recently as a Richter main. Min Min and Richter essentially have the same Dair(properties) exceot AND HERS GETS A BIGGER HIT BOX WHEN SHE HAS MORE RANGE ... bro that makes me soo mad.

[@entropy-cat]

Love learning all about hitboxes as if I could make any use of this information even though I have no idea what the term "zoner" is supposed to even mean.

[@cameronk3710]

Marth's Misleading Hitboxes. Definitely dancing blade's visual being disconnected from the tipper or Bair having a horrible blindspot

[@AllTheRooks]

Seeing all these slo-mo and frozen images of Richter mid-attack is just drawing attention how fuckin weird his shoulders move and warp

[@andre.drezus]

"so you don't lose neutral to characters randomly crunching under it on accident" *Cries in everyone picking up banjo granades with aerials on accident*

[@richwalk3954]

Rekzius: *talks about weird/terrible hitboxes from various fighters* Wii Fit Trainer: hold my wii fit board

[@snakeorbreak6258]

I love using all of the "bad" Down Airs in casual, like the Belmonts' and Greninja's, because 1: it's fun, and 2: if you're fighting a boss you can just keep ricocheting off of them.

[@M4RZ1P4N]

I could real feel the bloody tears you shed over the horrible curse of these men's miserable pile of hitboxes. Hopefully we don't have to wait until night to have our sorrowful moves fixed.

[@cjlite0210]

2:36 As he continues to miss Roy by just INCHES!

[@prestononuselogu9973]

That's fair hitbox we don't need another bayo or brawl meta on our hands

[@SuperDodger64]

It would be pretty cool now that you can visualize item hitboxes to do a side series on items, if that's possible. Surely there's got to be some really wacky ones, like the black hole, the gust bellows, the bees, etc

[@gamerdomain6618]

Belmont's Bizarre Adventure: Hitbox Tendancy

[@philipkeane6417]

This is a great way to pass the time during the lighting!

[@dragonix2094]

“Belmont’s bizarre hit boxes” Min Min: u call that bizarre

[@PrettyKoolCrocodile]

*King K. Rool's KRool/Klunky Hitboxes* I need it, my main needs his Up Tilt hitbox shown with it's blindspots as well as his other hitboxes

[@pikachufrankie]

K Rool’s Krushing Hitboxes

[@PrettyKoolCrocodile]

@@pikachufrankie That is a good alt title

[@superbones5000]

Jr’s clowny hitboxes show the good and the bad of the character like he has some pretty bad hitboxes while also having an up air that’s insanely good

[@nautilus2342]

Sure, the Belmonts' hitboxes aren't great, but we need a video with some truly terrible hiboxes. Pit's pathetic hitboxes when?

[@rac1equalsbestgame853]

Pit's Pitiful hitboxes

[@Rarest26]

Meta Knight´s Messy hitboxes

[@MicRouSn7]

Tbh I have a hard time thinking that those hitboxes are bad. Like sure he has bad frame data, but if he didn't he'd just be too powerful to deal with. The only way half the roster can fight him with all that spam is to dodge it and get in to grapple fight him. So to make more of his grounded moves faster would entirely negate that as an option and leave his only counter to be better zoners like young link. I do think a couple of those are rough like the down air, but I find the slower projectiles to be a compensator for how heckin stronk they are.

[@brain_tonic]

Falco's Flabbergasting Hitboxes please! When you were talking about how bad Up Smash is I couldn't help but thinking "welcome to the fucking club!"

[@magmivire]

10:41 Having Piranha Plant on screen there is a nice bitter touch

[@mikesharpmni4264]

once again I attempt to request Ike's... Interesting hitboxes. Some of the hitboxes are awful such as down smash and grab, while others such as up tilt, dash attack, and eruption being downright unreasonable.

[@cheesypeanutbutterapplesau5660]

Bizarre? And they hunt vampires? Coincidence? I think NOT!

[@joshuawithers9842]

13:14 You fool, you've fallen for one of the classic blunders!

[@SloshyLamp]

6:25 nice pun. Forward Air = Fair

[@michalischristou2673]

Robin's Robust hitboxes Would be really cool to see the difference between arcfire and holy water along with the bronze and levin sword differences.

[@gamincaimin9954]

4:08 that was like what you want happening, just use d tilt to get through people or just knock them to the other side of the stage, easy stage control

[@TheJosiahTurner]

Ok now can we please talk about the pits’ hitboxes, i feel like more attention needs to be brought to them

[@SwordandKeyboard29]

I really wish these guys were better. I think they're really cool, and their moves are fun to use, just not practical. I think it would be enough of his startup lag was buffed by 5-10%, and maybe give one of the variants the Marth to Lucina treatment (tipper focus for Simon maybe?)

[@sidharkinsoyangco2933]

Melee Marth: *laughs at the Belmonts' grab range*

[@Triforce_of_Doom]

okay while I didn't know the dair has a hurtbox poking out, I only ever use it in casuals since the later launch angle makes it to where if you have Grand Cross on standby it's practically a true combo.

[@cynniethia]

“Moving onto forward air where we have a fair bit to talk about” I see what you did there

[@mattiasrhawi3361]

I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the weird back air hitbox where it actually sends forward and in front of Belmont. Kinda working like a Fox and Falco Melee back air.

[@pumpkinjack1117]

Yo, the only use of the dangle chain is the most hilarious shield pressure/ shield poking in the game.

[@tommil_ssb3165]

U should make a vid specifically on bad hitboxes (idk if u did this already) and if u need a bad hitbox look at jrs fair there’s a big blind spot in the start of the move

[@peacockkae]

11:12 HOLY SHIT I’ve never seen someone “2 frame” a tether, how much of some tethers bodies are under the ledge I wonder

[@AdeptusForge]

Can we get an analysis of ken/ryu's hitboxes. A lot of the problems that were brought up in this video are amplified on them in strange ways. Hitboxes not covering hurtboxes, multihits with a tendency to fall out, hitboxes having glaring blindspots, the works.

[@myssledissle]

Ridley's Radical Hitboxes (Featuring Skewer from the Tiny Hitbox Series)

[@FicherWolf]

Belmonts Bizzare Adventure, Smash Tendency

[@arufa4550]

Next up: Min Min's mocky malicious Hitboxes

[@shupp6267]

This was really interesting, I love all these videos! Suggestion: Wario's Wonderful Hitboxes

[@bobbillans6715]

I'm told the framedata of f-tilt is actually identical to the original whip strike from the early Castlevania games.

[@theedwardian]

Belmont's "dangle" is good to use defensively. It clanks with projectiles

[@wutmagna7222]

So, we can visualize items now? That's cool. Perhaps that could be a video idea. 'Insane Item Hitboxes.' I'll be waiting.

[@Sam-jc9pp]

Items are not competitive

[@dustinvanish]

Falco. His up smash is ridiculous and I need to see it.

[@anitabath8315]

Here’s an idea: Ganondorf’s Generous Hitboxes. I’ve gotten some bizarre KO’s U tilt and Warlock Punch, and forward air is ridiculous sometimes.

[@Creepo_J]

Damn, you are actually the first one to put up a video of the dangle hitboxes 👀

[@ember2286]

Now that MinMin is approaching, I wonder what her eventual video will be called? Maybe "MinMin's Malicious Hitboxes"?

[@flaurel]

People always complain so much about their own mains. The experience can also make you appreciate the good stuff more

[@austin2594]

How to make Belmont’s High-Tier/Top-Tier. Add a slower but longer range tether grab with the whip (no idea why they didn’t do that in the first place) That can also be used as a tether for off stage. He has a whip yet he grabs with his hands??

[@TaranAlvein]

On top of his Down-B being an Item move and subject to being caught, it also just becomes your opponent's attack if the bottle touches their shield, making it almost completely not worth using in neutral. I was incredibly frustrated to learn that, because I actually really wanted to play Richter. So many of his moves can be described as "Like X, but it sucks."

[@olyviermonteau4300]

Belmont's bizzare adventure: part 7: flowered crown castle.

[@theoverseer393]

(Psst, do duck hunt! There’s some weird hitbox stuff where the smash attacks double-dip when slowed in training mode)

[@temp1326]

title closes the gap between jobs and castlevania just a little more

[@ang1217sr]

Please just don’t let Sephiroth’s hit boxes just be Belmont’s thin hit boxes.

[@birdguy9864]

...

[@drit90210]

Belmont’s bizzard hitboxes Jojos bizzare adventures 🤔

[@thattubaguy217]

Moving on to forward air where we have a FAIR bit to talk about XD

[@AnjiMitoGGST]

Belmont’s bizarre adventures

[@skeletorthebest7204]

Mii Gunner next? I main the character and I’m still confused on where exactly the down air spike hitbox is. I’ve got a theory, but no real confirmation.

[@plant3bananas297]

You can go to ultimateframedata.com for their hitboxes

[@prestononuselogu9973]

It's at the top really hard to land

[@aidenzorn8322]

i think that sweetspot, normal spot, and super sourspot would probably describe those hitboxes a little better. the body hitboxes just seem that degree of worse than the others :/

[@lexo632]

Lucas's loopy hitboxes. I've often been surprised by how much I've missed.

[@Krazykarlton]

Incenaroar would be super sick. And it would help me personally by understanding my main more. :>

[@nosenseofhumor1]

i feel like belmonts have very few decent launch options and that this is their single greatest weakness. ive had fights go into crazy high percents just because i cant find a finish

[@esqimo6647]

Rekzius the whole video: yeah so the Belmonts suck

[@9Coronas]

Great video man, but I found the "b roll" to be kind of distracting as it often didn't include the move you were currently talking about. Maybe including some better gameplay examples would help illustrate the way the hitboxes work. Otherwise loved it! Subbed!

[@lycantubeves5992]

10:17 Now I hate more than before to Zero suit samus, please sakurai nerf her

[@williampym3741]

She just isn't allowed a disadvantage state.