28:45 sorry top tier olimar the hell?

I love all the little visual gags sprinkled throughout the video, like duck hunt with the chocolate, or Richter getting a pitfall when you talk about the invisible stair phenomenon. They’re all so fun, and watching you recreate the metaphors you use in game is very charming. Amazing video that does a great job unpacking the details that turn Steve into a broken mess, but I thought the little visual gags deserved a shout out, since it’s really going the extra mile.

Imagine designing a character so broken that it takes almost 2 hours to explain how broken it is

Lol Steve might be overpowered, but he is my most played character in ultimate I’m so glad that he was included in the smash

Now i know all the tech and broken reasons others use to demolish me and ill never bother learning them.

Steve reminds me a lot of early season Happy Chaos in Guilty Gear Strive. Both are resource-heavy characters who had some portion of their moveset sacrificed on the altar of one unique mechanic (Steve's block, Happy's gun) which ended up breaking their balance due to just *how* unique it was. They broke fundamental rules of the game that everyone else had to follow (Steve changing the stage shape and using grounded abilities mid-air, Happy being able to attack with gun during endlag) and so the universal balancing measures just didn't work right for them. In addition, they had some number of other busted special moves (Steve minecart and elytra, Happy scapegoat and roll) and essentially dictated neutral with their basic gameplan (The Wall, steady aim). Add on a flatly overtuned set of normal moves, and you have the respective monstrous top tiers of Smash Ultimate and Guilty Gear Strive. Difference is, that was Happy 2 seasons ago. It took a *long* time to get him to a balanced state-"nerfed to top 1" was a common joke about his balance patches-but they got him eventually. Steve didn't *have* a long time-the patches stopped too soon to rebalance him.

Definitely not realistic to say that Steve is broken. He definitely is really strong but he is absolutely in no way meta-defining. If you look at all the top ranked players in the world only a small handful of them are Steve players, and without any exceptions, every Steve player in the top 30 has a pocket character for difficult matchups (this is in a top 30 where 50% of all reps are one main wonders). If he was “broken”, we would see that nearly all the top performers in tournaments were Steve players, yet since 2023 the ONLY Steve main to be placed in the top 10 was Acola. Idk I love the video but I definitely do think the “brokenness” of the character is massively overstated.

i think the last time this game was genuinely balanced (and legitimately fun for me) was just before terry dropped

You're speaking this fast, and it's still 1 hour, 50 minutes? Jesus Christ. Never speak like a normal person. Yoooouuuuu wooouuullllddddd neeevvveeerrrr mmmaaakkeee iiiitttt thhhhrrrroouughhh aaaaaa llliiiinnnne.

Honestly, my biggest issue with Steve is that he doesn't feel like a smash bros character. No, I will not elaborate/explain myself. Granted, this is coming from someone who hasn't really played Smash bros since shortly after Sora was released (due to being introduced to Blazblue and Melty Blood at around that time), so maybe take my opinion with a grain of salt

12:07 The purpose of the Condor is to control the final smash. You can control the iceberg by moving your control stick, but that has the problem of moving your character too. If you grab on you can lose control of your character until it ends so you can guide the iceberg.

I feel like the word "move" is the single most used noun and verb in this entire video.

I think it just makes sense a character that can carry the equivalent mass of a white dwarf in his inventory and still hit 36 MPH ends up being stupidly powerful.

WHYY IS THIS SOOOOOO LONG I WANNA DIE AND GO OUTSIDE I WISH YOU SAID THIS IN 20 TO 30 MINUTES IM DEd

I think Steve is fine. #Just get good

So... building is overpowered. Low movement? Build. In danger? Build. Need safe recovery? Build. Need wall? Build. Taunt? Build an F.

Phenomenal work on this, thank you.

Finally a video about smash that i can understand (it's so fascinating to me, but i fine it play it)

Steve have the rights to be like that even in the original game Steve can carry more than 1 billion kilograms

Bro pay to win

This video had some great info and reference, but there was a lot of repetition. You could probably trim this down to a concise 30min. I stuck with it but I thought you might appreciate the feedback

HE DID NOTHING STHU RAYMAN EASILY DESTROYED SMASH

Cant wait for the fortnite charecter to break the game balance for the dlc in the next smash game ob the switch 2, lol.

What’s the name of the song playing in the background

Smash has always been unbalanced. Star fox had a fucking gun

I rather face smash 4 bayo and argue till the cows grow up, go to college, get a job, retire at 40 and come home that Cloud is way more frustrating to deal with then deal with steve up smash magnetizing me into it from California to New York another fucking time

Nice to hear some Umineko goodness, vn GOAT

In my opinion, especially for a grassroots competitive community like Smash, balance should be democratic: why are the developers who have consistently shown flagrant disregard for balance be the ones calling the shots when the community has far more resources and data than they ever could? Especially now that they've left the game in this state, it's the right and responsibility to make an unbalanced game balanced by any means necessary. If Basketball were a video game, the shot clock would never have been invented because the devs didn't add it, and people would argue you're nerfing one player for being too tall

All in favour of banning Steve and Sonic, say Aye!

Ok what broke me was Steve intentionally knocking himself off the stage with anvil, hitting the big toss on *himself,* then using that to fly back up to the stage and KO Bowser. Like yeah. Ok. That shit will *never* happen in a real game. But is there a better representation of Steve as a character then *that?*

Remember, we humans win against creatures because we are ingenious in comparison. We have more brain than the muscle and mass required to use as much of the neurons! Building was one of the ways we prevented animals from approaching our neutral!

Steve being able to place blocks mid-air is a reference to his appearance on Super Meat Boy

If Steve were to return in the next Smash Bros. They would probably change his moveset. or they remove the blocks entirely and replace it with a Bow/Arrow.

tinfoil hat level theory: Steve was put in as a big middle finger to the competitive scene. If you look at it from that lense, it makes sense.

3:49 ARKNIGHTS MENTIONED RAAAAHHHH

Supa spin time, SSSSSPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIIIRRRRNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! 8:06

God i love this character so much. he made me watch competitive ultimate so much more and if it wasnt for sonic i still would watch a lot of ult

I think the most broken in here is Steve but he's banned so we will go with kazu

19:03 smash 4 cloud

Liked for ff7 music

As a minecraft player I'm completly proud

we love p2w

Long story short f Steve

Imo Ultimate a mini patch: - Toggle Stage Hazards shortcut, just by pressing Y or something. It would reinvigorate some of the play on lan. - Option to reduce buffer/hold buffer to half. - More options in remapping controls - Online option to filter players by ethernet or wifi. (This option is hidden, when you plug ethernet it shows up) - Improve the online netcode as much as they can without a lot of dev time/new game. - Squad Strike Online, at least in arenas/private matches. - Add a cap to mashing, but no mash has you trapped for less time. - Using special moves does not refresh ledge invincibility. (Like when Byleth and Sora uses side B) Rebalances Steve: - reduce each type of Block HP by 3 to 5 hp. - Can only place blocks that are connected to the stage (like not mid air, just like in real MC) - Hurtboxes for blocks now match the block size - TNT can hurt him - Minecart hitbox made smaller, true to model. - Minecart is a hit grab like isabelle fishing rod. It can bounce of shield, and if steve places a block it can send it back. - minecart has 50% less armor now. - hitstun canceling removed. - up smash hitbox now matches the model. - back air has more end lag. - Wood and Diamond knockback is now nerfed. (Basically his weaker is weaker and strongest is weaker). - reduce ledge grab range on up B. - spawn and respawn with less blocks. - anvil has less knockback swap kirbys down B damage and anvil lol. - lower weight by 2. Sonic: - Revert the patch 9.0 spindash buff. Can’t infinite charge it. - Make F smash not clank with projectiles/high priority moves as much. - Add some end lag to up B. //He has to be made weaker, special moves wise so he cant time out. G&W: - Make Up B OOS frame 9 - Reduce the size of nair - Remove intangible hitbox on head during up smash/other moved. - Add more end lag to up air. - Add more end lag to down air and landing lag. - F smash less knockback //He is not very accessible to have be a top tier since his animations are hard for ppl to see. ROB: - Nerf him overall a good amount, like up air, side B, Gyro, Up B infinite, Nair end lag, etc. Snake: - Reduce hitbox size on moves that are made super huge for no reason like Nikita, dash attack, up tilt. Pyra/Mythra - Add a bit more landing lag on mythra’s aerials. - Mythra reduce knockback on some moves. Cloud: - Up B OoS is slower, 2 more frames. - More end lag on Forward air. - A tiny buff to nair’s range as a trade off. Joker: - Does not spawn with arsene meter. - reduce fair, up smash and fsmash knockback with arsene a good bit. - Make bullets in gun hitboxes smaller, especially with arsen. Diddy Kong: - reduce some of his buffs like upsmash. Kazuya: - remove some invincibility frames on moves. - Reduce knockback on a few moves. - Remove reflector on ewgf. - Reduce stun time in ewgf. Min Min: - Add some more lag and reduce range on the fist parts. - remove up smash reflector lol. Rest of the cast: - Fix “buggy” moves, polish it up. - Buff some low tiers a tiny amount and rework gannon to be based on ToTK

For me the anvil damage and kb is expected cuz i'm used to the mental image of people exploding to them in minecraft

23:10 that sideways T was so disrespectful lmao

banning a character just puts your region in disadvantage, if you never have to worry about the matchup u won't learn it and get boedied once you play anywhere else

Steve is like a combination of Melee Fox and Brawl Meta Knight. Toxic to the moment-to-moment gameplay like MK, but has a ridiculously high skill ceiling to reach that power level like Fox.

This better than the steve movie

29:00 ayo??? 😂