Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+

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ExplainingComputers

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@PaulFeakins
@PaulFeakins 6 жыл бұрын
"It's not in an anti-static bag - that's a bit of a shock!" no pun intended? lol
@Shelly-il7rq
@Shelly-il7rq 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Feakins thats electric
@maisoncayson4542
@maisoncayson4542 3 жыл бұрын
a tip : you can watch movies on flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@reginaldrey4064
@reginaldrey4064 3 жыл бұрын
@Maison Cayson Definitely, have been using Flixzone for years myself :)
@MetallicBlade
@MetallicBlade 6 жыл бұрын
My birthday today + New EC video about the Pi = Pretty good start for the day.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday! :)
@publicmail2
@publicmail2 6 жыл бұрын
No static bag, shocking! Right!
@bobl.1044
@bobl.1044 6 жыл бұрын
A D Tiddyboom-tish!
@kaylaandjimbryant8258
@kaylaandjimbryant8258 6 жыл бұрын
agreed, they should be in the antistat bag.
@mirageinthedesert5448
@mirageinthedesert5448 6 жыл бұрын
A D I know
@sonkegreimann2470
@sonkegreimann2470 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely electrifying(!)
@ShellstaTube
@ShellstaTube 6 жыл бұрын
Better shape up! - l've got chills and they are multiplying.
@uroborous01
@uroborous01 6 жыл бұрын
And with that, my dreams of entering narnia have been shattered... Guess i'm just going to have to occupy myself by tinkering around with the new pi3b+!
@callumtait5190
@callumtait5190 6 жыл бұрын
uroborous01 i
@darrylmay4510
@darrylmay4510 6 жыл бұрын
Because of your reviews and a lack of technological progress with the Raspberry platform I just bought an ODROID-XU4. In your comparison review you contributed the performance differences with a less developed OS. The OS is much easier to modify and will develop rapidly due to the open source concept. I therefore bought the much more powerful ODROID-XU4. Thank you and keep the content flowing!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your ODROID-XU4 -- certainly a very good SBC for anybody with the skill and time to tinker. And I will have another ODROID video in two weeks . . .
@jackeyniraula
@jackeyniraula 6 жыл бұрын
I was in the future and zapped right back here to tell you that you were reviewing Raspberry Pi 4 =)
@rubinmiddleton9237
@rubinmiddleton9237 6 жыл бұрын
Delightful video Sir. I enjoyed it very much, and I am still smiling 10 minutes later:)
@perrymcclusky4695
@perrymcclusky4695 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this particular review. Your review is ‘spot on’ and I agree with you. Although it isn’t the Raspberry Pi 4 I wish for, I must say it is a step in the right direction. I look forward to any other videos on this SBC. The odds are pretty high that I may add it to my Pi collection. Thank you.
@raulrrojas
@raulrrojas 6 жыл бұрын
Perry, what would you wish for a Pi 4? In my opinion it only lacks USB3 and internal flash drive. From the OS perspective, I'd like a version of debian inmune to poweroffs. In that way, any arduino project could be improved by these boards.
@perrymcclusky4695
@perrymcclusky4695 6 жыл бұрын
I think the Pi 4 should have 2 GB memory, true 4K video and two of the four USB ports 3.0. Plus the improvements in the Pi 3B+. That would be the minimum. I would like it to have the specifications of the Rock 64 but with an added USB 3 port.
@raulrrojas
@raulrrojas 6 жыл бұрын
yes, true 4k is a must these days. Maybe we have luck next year with the new version!
@perrymcclusky4695
@perrymcclusky4695 6 жыл бұрын
Raul Rojas I am actually surprised that the Pi 3B was upgraded. I wasn’t expecting Pi upgrades anytime soon. I’d love to see a Pi 4 in a years time but I won’t hold my breath. I might just invest in a Pi3B+ just to support the Pi movement.
@frostgreen5527
@frostgreen5527 6 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your review's, thanks again.
@MrT6bill
@MrT6bill 6 жыл бұрын
USB 3 and Gigabit is not a deal-breaker for me; doubt it is for the vast majority of users. Kudos on the heat tests, thank you! A much bigger concern for the average user.
@evanj571
@evanj571 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice vid Mr. Barnatt! I really enjoy each and every one of your vids. You are my favorite because you put humor in your vids which really makes my day. Thank you very much :)
@ricky_pigeon
@ricky_pigeon 6 жыл бұрын
"it's not in a anti-stacking bag, that's abit of a shock" .. thanks for making me choke on a chip lol
@freesaxon6835
@freesaxon6835 6 жыл бұрын
rickster4k yes so dry....... Even that causes static😏
@jthorpe4droid
@jthorpe4droid 6 жыл бұрын
Mine came from pihut only in an anti-static bag, and a generic box
@bobl.1044
@bobl.1044 6 жыл бұрын
Top tip Don't eat chips... especially when they're silicon ones! 😉
@kaylaandjimbryant8258
@kaylaandjimbryant8258 6 жыл бұрын
Adafruit is selling them in the box without a bag.
@cornfoot100
@cornfoot100 6 жыл бұрын
Love the video Chris, always a pleasure to watch, i totally agree with the desires for specs at the end
@andljoy
@andljoy 6 жыл бұрын
Now we can de-lid our Pis and replace the TIM with liquid metal!
@KingJellyfishII
@KingJellyfishII 6 жыл бұрын
yeah someone already did that EDIT: its here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/an3XfWybbK-krqc
@Kris-jk9mq
@Kris-jk9mq 6 жыл бұрын
1024: That video was terrible to watch... The dude ripped a CAP off of the CPU PCB and didn't even notice.. I've delided a few CPU's and liquid metaled my GPU's.. But on this Pi, hell no man..
@mhayward8876
@mhayward8876 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, Chris, glad Stanley the Knife made an appearance :) The feature I'm hoping for in the Pi 4 is 2 Gb of DD3 memory instead of the 1 Gb of DDR2.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Very good point. 2GB on a Pi 4 -- or 4GB! -- would be really nice, and would open up new areas of application.
@mhayward8876
@mhayward8876 6 жыл бұрын
A 4GB Pi, I would love to see it. Please keep Stanley, Mr. Scissors and the rest of the gang in the loop...the references are funny and are part of what makes your channel special.
@amancalledoss38
@amancalledoss38 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video I know many of us have been pestering you for it , I know the gains they have made won't light the world on fire but they have managed to do all that at the same price .
@techtruth9077
@techtruth9077 6 жыл бұрын
I've been using my Pi 3 B+ since I got it the day after launch day and despite the small step up I'm really pleased with it. Add an USB SSD drive and change the boot from SD card to SSD and it's a very usable desktop computer for general purpose work.
@philos31
@philos31 6 жыл бұрын
Ah something to watch on my lazy sunday! Thanks!
@LP_APUgamer
@LP_APUgamer 6 жыл бұрын
Finally I was waiting for this review! :)
@simonascurtu8575
@simonascurtu8575 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@RightToSelfDefense
@RightToSelfDefense 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. They finally got a Metal Cap on the CPU like the Tinker Board.
@AnttiNannimus1
@AnttiNannimus1 6 жыл бұрын
Rpi 3 B+ brings us exceptionally superior quad 8-finger-crossing as well! I cannot do that yet.
@freesaxon6835
@freesaxon6835 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison, it's not one giant leap for raspberry kind, more shuffle in the right direction
@Ardonyx
@Ardonyx 6 жыл бұрын
Good work! I enjoy the puns!
@jjk-9
@jjk-9 6 жыл бұрын
Very tempted to buy one but im sticking with the Pi3 until Pi4 comes out, I mainly use it as a Kodi machine so it does well enough right now.
@aspecreviews
@aspecreviews 6 жыл бұрын
11:51 "it never throttled" Once the CPU reached 70 degrees, it did reduce the clock speed from 1.4 GHz (self-overclock) to 1.2 GHz (stock). Add vcgencmd measure_clock_arm to the bash script to see this adjustment in action.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
I think I made it clear in the video that the CPU cuts back (mid throttles I guess) at 70, but (fully) throttles at about 80. :) I have posted a cooling video that looks at this in depth and Pi very cool.
@marvintpandroid2213
@marvintpandroid2213 6 жыл бұрын
Pi 4 needs... USB3 1Gb Ethernet 8 Core CPU with heatsink 802.11 AC wifi with a connector for an external antenna 4K HDMI video out with H.264 and H.265 decoding It might cost $10 or $20 more but people will pay for it, just keep the 3B+ in the range Anything else ???
@AZEMBadlen
@AZEMBadlen 6 жыл бұрын
You can't power all of this using 2.5A 5V power supply
@minepro1206
@minepro1206 6 жыл бұрын
No wifi antenna or 8 cpu cores needed. Indeed usb 3.0 and GB DDR3 RAM are necessities. If you ask me, I would pay double the price of raspberry pi 3, regarding its amazing support and possibilities over other SBCs, so scaling the price up a bit for some highly desired features shouldn't be a big problem.
@leberkassemmel
@leberkassemmel 6 жыл бұрын
All this would be nice, but you can get alternative products for that. And I like my Pi costing 35€. If you need an external antenna, the board has the pads, just solder in your connector and take the 0 ohm link out.
@minepro1206
@minepro1206 6 жыл бұрын
Michi Lo. Well I would buy an usb wifi adaptor with an antenna.
@david-spliso1928
@david-spliso1928 6 жыл бұрын
Defeats the object of a cheap single board.
@nowaygoogal545
@nowaygoogal545 6 жыл бұрын
The external Peltier cooling solutions works wonderfully IFF you power the Peltier device and its fan by an external power source (i.e. powered USB hub). However, once you pull too much current, you must power down and restart the Pi to regain your CPU voltage and speed, otherwise it's .6 Ghz and 1.2 V. I modified temp_test.sh to show what the temperatures are after the test (how does it cool down i.e. what are the thermal properties of the cooling solutions). Here are the data: Testing CPU temperature and speed under a load Thu Dec 27 14:01:25 PST 2018 temp=36.5'C 80 seconds temp=54.8'C 80 seconds temp=59.1'C 85 seconds temp=60.1'C 87 seconds temp=59.6'C 88 seconds temp=60.1'C Run time = 420 Thu Dec 27 14:08:25 PST 2018 Testing CPU temperature idle 60 seconds elapsed temp=45.6'C 120 seconds elapsed temp=41.9'C 180 seconds elapsed temp=40.2'C 240 seconds elapsed temp=38.6'C 300 seconds elapsed temp=37.0'C 360 seconds elapsed temp=36.5'C 420 seconds elapsed temp=36.5'C 480 seconds elapsed temp=35.4'C 540 seconds elapsed temp=35.4'C 600 seconds elapsed temp=34.9'C Here is the modified temp_test.sh #! /bin/bash clear # This is a nice little for loop echo "Testing CPU temperature and speed under a load" echo start=$(date +%s) date for f in {1..5} do loopstart='' loopstart=$(date +%s) vcgencmd measure_temp # vcgencmd measure_clock arm # vcgencmd measure_volts sysbench --test=cpu \ --cpu-max-prime=20000 \ --num-threads=4 run > /dev/null loopend='' loopend=$(date +%s) looptime=$((loopend-loopstart)) echo $looptime seconds done vcgencmd measure_temp # vcgencmd measure_clock arm # vcgencmd measure_volts end=$(date +%s) runtime=$((end-start)) echo "Run time = " $runtime echo date echo echo "Testing CPU temperature idle" echo for f in {1..10} do sleep 60 echo $((f * 60)) seconds elapsed vcgencmd measure_temp done
@yosoyelkoch
@yosoyelkoch 6 жыл бұрын
These are the results for my Raspberry Pi 3b: temp=53.7'C 2018-11-19 19:41:18.273612659-06:00 - Starting temp=82.2'C 2018-11-19 19:43:25.977592311-06:00 - 00:02:07.70 temp=83.3'C 2018-11-19 19:46:00.501175199-06:00 - 00:02:34.52 temp=83.8'C 2018-11-19 19:48:50.565977827-06:00 - 00:02:50.06 temp=84.4'C 2018-11-19 19:51:50.146351823-06:00 - 00:02:59.58 temp=84.9'C 2018-11-19 19:54:55.247867247-06:00 - 00:03:05.10 The hotter the CPU, the slower it gets. LOL ☺️
@mikecalderon7992
@mikecalderon7992 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Barnatt, I have the latest version of Raspbian running on my 3b+ with a fan and heat sink and while running KZbin at 1080HD it maintains 34C in a room with ambient temperature of 24C. I am thrilled with the performance and cannot wait to see the new hats coming for the board.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
This sounds like an excellent cooling setup. Wonderful! :)
@Durrpadil
@Durrpadil 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
@nowaygoogal545
@nowaygoogal545 6 жыл бұрын
Olde-School cooling achieves 35 C with an ambient temperature of 67 F, at thermal equilibrium at an idle Raspian desktop, with a CPU heat sink and a metal case. This does not make the CPU go faster; it makes it go slower (I suspect because of the current-draw). This is achieved with rubber feet (for thermal isolation), a 1"x1" Peltier device (thermocouple) smacked on the top of the metal case with a fan, both running on a Pi USB port (5v). Thermal equilibrium with just a heat sink in a closed case was 44 C. Testing CPU temperature and speed under a load Thu Dec 27 10:33:32 PST 2018 temp=44.0'C 88 seconds temp=60.1'C 93 seconds temp=62.8'C 93 seconds temp=64.5'C 94 seconds temp=66.1'C 93 seconds temp=67.1'C Run time = 461 Thu Dec 27 10:41:13 PST 2018 Add a Peltier device and heat sink and you get 39 C - 40 C Add a fan and rubber feet and you get around 35 C. The case will be ice cold drawing heat from ALL the circuitry. Operating temperature (like right now) about 37 C Testing CPU temperature and speed under a load Thu Dec 27 11:56:23 PST 2018 temp=35.9'C 188 seconds temp=44.0'C 188 seconds temp=44.5'C 189 seconds temp=45.1'C 188 seconds temp=45.1'C 188 seconds temp=45.6'C Run time = 941 Thu Dec 27 12:12:04 PST 2018 So, extra cooling DOES NOT necessarily translate into faster CPU speed.
@johnc3403
@johnc3403 6 жыл бұрын
As an engineer I receive leads, plugs, sockets and all sorts of passive components in anti-static bags. It's comforting if nothing else. It's a no brainer. I hate seeing the Raspberry Pi arrive naked in a box. That was a poor decision by someone..
@TRIPPLEJAY00
@TRIPPLEJAY00 6 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so many single board computer's.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Next Sunday I am uploading a video that features 19 SBCs in one shot! :)
@pawel4099
@pawel4099 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You very much sir for your videos on raspberry pie. I also think that there's something genuinely charismatic in the way you speak, act etc.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@JosephMassimino
@JosephMassimino 6 жыл бұрын
Very good comments on the B+, let's hope they can adopt some of the higher performance of the Asus Tinker board before the Tinker board gets more traction in the hobby area, The Asus Tinker board did not workout so well with my attempt to get it to work with DireWolf as a TNC for APRS. However, I did turn it into a nice desktop PC for web, email, PCB design, and many other things that work around USB ports and Linux. One thing that the Tinker board excelled at that did work for me, was when I connect a SSD drive to it, and it just took off. I opened a mkv rip of a Blueray movie and the output to my 32" Samsung HDTV was blue ray quality, I was blown away by the great detail and sharpness of the image. It was the only thing I did that got the processor a bit hot to the touch. So I got a small 12v muffin fan and ran it with 5v, and stuck it on top. The small fan in the case I had would never keep that thing as cool as I would like it. The Tinker board audio control needs some work. I can get audio to my HDTV through HDMI, but not reliably to the self powered speaker connected to a 3.5mm jack on the Tinker board. I got the audio out of the 3.5mm jack once, and it was not so good, but then it stopped and I could not get it back again. The Tinker board needs more work, and their support is terrible. It's not that they are not responsive, and polite, it is that they are either idiots, or they don't understand English. It took me 5 or 6 return emails to get them to break down the 3.5mm jack to tell me what is one each ring. It was simple enough, but it is taking way to long for that, so I am afraid to ask them a really complicated question about GPIO control, which is required for DireWolf control of PTT on the radio it controls. I never got the audio to work, so I skipped going into anything more complicated.
@theclawless1225
@theclawless1225 6 жыл бұрын
I ORDERED ONE THIS MORNING AND IT’S COMING ON MONDAY AND IM SO EXCITED I’VE JUST BEEN WATCHING VIDEOS ABOUT THE RASPBERRY PI ALL DAYYYYYYYYYYYY HONESTLY I’M GOING BONKERS LIKE YONKERS FOR THIS THING
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you are doing to enjoy your new Pi! :) It will change you view of computing.
@raulrrojas
@raulrrojas 6 жыл бұрын
Excelent review and tests as allways. Thanks!
@tpobrienjr
@tpobrienjr 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review including straightforward tests. I don't mind the shortcomings, since nothing I'm doing gets close to those performance edges. I am, though, very pleased that the RF box has come to fruition. It frees up some board real estate as well as eliminating a bunch of certification red tape.
@whoanelly-
@whoanelly- 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris, always enjoy watching. :)
@wammo12345
@wammo12345 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks yet again Chris! My kids have been running the new Pi 3B+ for a couple of weeks now and the improvements make the experience much better for them, specifically Scratch and Reading Eggs online. Like you I think it's time for USB3 and gigabit Ethernet. While I admire the ideal of a US$35 SBC I do think there is now a whole new place in the market for a new Pi at a higher price in parallel to the current Pi line, with at least 2GB RAM as well as a true 64 bit OS. We have the Pi Zero in parallel so it's not a new concept to have several models in parallel. Let's hope ....
@freesaxon6835
@freesaxon6835 6 жыл бұрын
4:52 hopes of entering Narnia dashed 😔 If on offer I wouldn't have to think twice
@coows
@coows 6 жыл бұрын
WUT. THAT IS A MIG IMPROVEMENT. Can't wait for model B++ or A++ or C++ or the raspberry pi 4 model B+
@tueiron
@tueiron 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as all ways, 3b+ all ready configured to boot from usb.
@SergioSerrano83
@SergioSerrano83 6 жыл бұрын
Great Review. Thanks Chris, I was waiting to see your take on the RbPi 3B+. Can't wait to see the videos where you will test the 3B+ with some heath sinks. I bought mine last week... they charged me a little more than 40€ but I wanted to test the new ethernet port.
@markvd1008
@markvd1008 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, it looks awesome in full screen!
@wildrover1048
@wildrover1048 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting to see a video from you on this with regards to thermal performance vs the standard Pi 3, thanks for the info and that is an impressive improvement. By the way was "It's not in a anti-static bag, that's a bit of a shock" an intended pun? :)
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
It actually wasn't an intended pun! My subconscious was clearly in gear when I shot this!
@englishrupe01
@englishrupe01 6 жыл бұрын
What is really needed, Chris, is DDR3 memory, even if it's only 1Gb. It was an opportunity missed, i think. Great review though, Chris...thanks!
@allan.n.7227
@allan.n.7227 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent and well put together review. Thanks. I really hope you do a heatsink’ed comparison video in the near future. :-)
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
I will, I will ! :)
@SergiuszRoszczyk
@SergiuszRoszczyk 6 жыл бұрын
It is a good “facelift” for model 3B, thermal management etc. but I think we are getting near to the moment we need a bit bigger upgrade. Keeping lower spec memory isn’t that bad currently in still rising memory prices but second gig of memory would be good addition.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Facelift is a nice term for what they have done! :)
@SergiuszRoszczyk
@SergiuszRoszczyk 6 жыл бұрын
randy s the question is does Broadcom has a good ARM SoC with better GPU, USB 3.0 and quality kernel drivers working with DDR3 and is willing to share it with community?
@medworthy
@medworthy 6 жыл бұрын
Something that I have just realised about all the Raspberry modals is that they lack the standardised UART debug header (three pin serial interface). I have recently been using Banana and Orange SBCs and their inclusion of a UART header has been essential for configuration purposes.
@TheProjectOverload
@TheProjectOverload 6 жыл бұрын
A great overview and review, thank you.
@roydavies260
@roydavies260 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Hope to get one this year
@hansfehlow9657
@hansfehlow9657 6 жыл бұрын
Along with the 2 improvements you mentioned, I think a SATA interface would be very nice too but that's about it. As usual great video!
@TechTier_
@TechTier_ 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I know this is a lot off topic from single-board computers. It would be interesting to see a 'very simplified' explanation of Big O complexity and what its significance is in computers.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
I will look into this then!
@Scuba72Chris
@Scuba72Chris 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I've just ordered one of these to replace my old 1st gen B+ which was struggling with MAME emulation.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
You will see a big difference in performance!
@northshorepx
@northshorepx 6 жыл бұрын
Hey there. Great run down and comparison. Thank you so much!
@youssefgrine8294
@youssefgrine8294 6 жыл бұрын
Great review 👍👍, greetings from 🇫🇷
@pedrosantos_evk
@pedrosantos_evk 6 жыл бұрын
Great channel, very thorough analysis. Got a new subscriber.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Welcome aboard! :)
@BinaryReader
@BinaryReader 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the benchmarks too!!! :D
@JOELwindows7
@JOELwindows7 6 жыл бұрын
0:00 Yay! Christopher finally gets in the crowd of *this!!!!* 1:05 intresting! New way to open, *Innovative!!!* 1:18 no anti-static! I'm shocked, why?! 4:56 😂😂😂😂😂 what?! *Magic gate to Narnia?!?!* Who would've thought that? I think you are the only one, perhaps?! XD lololololololololololol!!! 14:20 yes, we are disappointed.
@fang.clarkec7584
@fang.clarkec7584 4 жыл бұрын
I recieved one with around 18000 games on a micro sd 128gb with all the different consoles including Dreamcast.I can't believe how powerful
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 жыл бұрын
It is indeed amazing what you can do with a Pi. That's a lot of games! :)
@fang.clarkec7584
@fang.clarkec7584 4 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers i did have to pay extra though. Its an arcade stick (double) with the sfv graphics and plugs straight into tv. I just use xbox joypads (plugs straight in)and easy to map buttons. It cost me 200 au dollars more than the cpu itself, but well worth the extra bucks :-)
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 жыл бұрын
@@fang.clarkec7584 Sounds like you've got some serious retro gaming to attend to! :)
@velanrama
@velanrama 6 жыл бұрын
In my Raspberry Pi 3, KZbin videos are not smooth when viewed full screen. How about the B+?
@DLiberator78
@DLiberator78 6 жыл бұрын
Yet another fantastic Raspberry Pi video. I really do like the way you test these SBCs what with the bench-marking and comparison tests. I was really impressed by the thermal performance of the RPi 3B+ and I totally agree with you that I would love to see a Raspberry Pi 4 sporting true gigabyte Ethernet and USB 3, plus an upgrade to the RAM. Perhaps 2Gb?
@CptMishMashVonRandom
@CptMishMashVonRandom 6 жыл бұрын
Hey. Great video. I love your SBC stuff. How about a test with heatsinks on both so that we can see the raw performance, minus the effects of throttling and see if the extra clock speed equates to faster completion, or if there are other factors? Also, you could add a couple of lines to your script and it'll print out how long it takes by itself without needing a stop watch. :)
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
I indeed intend to do some active and passive cooling tests. On the script, for the puposes of a video an onscreen clock I think is preferable. :)
@Bleats_Sinodai
@Bleats_Sinodai 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I wish they would do is add Data lines to the Micro USB connector. I use mine with a LapDock, and it'd be much better to be able to connect everything with just a couple of adapters instead of having to solder/dessolder stuff, make custom cables, etc, not to say you could easily have a very low-profile build (removing headers, connectors, etc) while still having USB available via that connector, and it would likely be more reliable in the long run than any wire-up job. To give you an idea of the "headache" I went through for my current RasPi3 LapDock, I removed the corner dual-USB connector, installed a single-USB connector, installed a 2-pin header for the data lines of the now unused USB, dismantled a Male USB-A to Female Micro USB adapter to make my connections, using 2x 2-pin female headers (salvaged from PC "reset button" cables and such), one going to the GPIO for 5v and GND pins, and the other going to my "Data" pins on the USB. This allows me to remove the adapter, so I could setup my Pi before a build in the future. If the Pi's Micro USB had Data, I'd only need a Micro USB Extension cable to do the same thing! I don't know why they have not thought of doing that yet!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! That is some serious modding you have done. Cool!
@Bleats_Sinodai
@Bleats_Sinodai 6 жыл бұрын
Here's some pics of it. It's not pretty, but it works: drive.google.com/open?id=1EK7piFgR5jFgKLMDoj6ACszkv8sJKkK_
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
I like mods like this! :)
@anullhandle
@anullhandle 6 жыл бұрын
Was hoping the + would be a credible omv box. Maybe the Pi4. Usb3, more ram, real gig lan, durable memory, all point to a complete redesign. Real open source would be nice to. Wonder how much they can cram in for 35 clams :) There's a lot of other boards but the community and support makes me kind of whish success for the pi.
@MihaiSamuila
@MihaiSamuila 6 жыл бұрын
OMG how did you do that 8 finger crossing? I guess, that will bring the rpi4 in 2019 :))) Again, a great video as usual. All the best Chris!
@whoknew3775
@whoknew3775 4 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend to power the board remotely? Are there battery packs with usb plugs?
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 жыл бұрын
You can indeed power a Pi using a USB power bank.
@kchiem
@kchiem 6 жыл бұрын
FYI, the same older pi with a heatsink (but no fan): temp=47.2'C 92.486 temp=72.0'C 92.440 temp=78.4'C 93.985 temp=81.1'C 100.896 temp=81.1'C 104.995 temp=81.7'C total time = 484.802s You can see some throttling after the 3rd pass. If the temps could be kept below 80, the older pi could probably do this in 462.5s.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Good info to have -- thanks for sharing here.
@kchiem
@kchiem 6 жыл бұрын
If you add: "TIMEFORMAT=%R" at the start of your script, and "time" in front of your sysbench calls, you'll get run times for each sysbench pass.
@david78212
@david78212 6 жыл бұрын
The Raspberry Pi has always been "incremental" updates... little parts of it being improved upon. You guys want all kinds of stuff to be changed on the next one? Um... Probably not going to happen. Faster CPU, + More RAM, + USB3.0, + Faster Graphics chip... Remember they have done well at keeping this at ~$35... Willing to bet IF you guys get all you want, it will be in the $40 - $45 range, at least. The Tinker board STARTS @$45 and goes up from there, up to $120+, the more you add, the more it is... Yes the Pi has it's issues, but remember it's meant to be an educational board on the cheap, NOT a media board so you can watch movies.
@2DReanimation
@2DReanimation 5 жыл бұрын
Rpi 4 will come 2020, so it will be a major boost.
@RichardEricCollins
@RichardEricCollins 6 жыл бұрын
Although I agree the addition of USB 3.0 would be good you have to be very careful of platform fragmentation. The raspberry pi 's primary function is a a teaching too not a media device. It's only a happy coincidence that it is capable of doing this. Adding a new version too soon could add issues with the material that has already been generated. As we already seen, the Rpi 3 B+ needs a better power supply.. As the old saying goes, be careful of what you wish for.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of truth in this -- the Pi still serves its market very well, and the backwards compatibility is a really big part of that.
@shanesdiy
@shanesdiy 6 жыл бұрын
Huge fan of the channel. I am working on a project to repurpose an old laptop shell to make my own RaspberryPi laptop. To get more "horsepower" I was considering using two RPi's in a cluster configuration. I have only seen people benchmark clusters by factoring prime numbers. I would like to see benchmark tests in real world desktop applications like you do when comparing SBC's. I would love it if you could make a video using a dual RPi cluster computer and run your benchmark tests to see if the gains are worth the trouble. What do you say? Thanks for the great channel!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your positive feedback. Appreciated. Yes, I must cluster some Pis at some point! :)
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 5 жыл бұрын
Because the raspberry pi is absolutely bad at clustering since its network interface is only connected via usb2.0. Also good luck accelerating a desktop application with a cluster configuration!
@sudhirbrahma
@sudhirbrahma 6 жыл бұрын
Well done ! Some details on the POE interface via the HAT board may have helped, because POE seems to be another key feature with this B+
@Raffles666
@Raffles666 6 жыл бұрын
ioT compat?
@kennethflorek8532
@kennethflorek8532 6 жыл бұрын
Please give Mr. Knife the same respect as Mr. Scissors.
@jxsl13
@jxsl13 6 жыл бұрын
A small comparison between all tested SBCs would be quite nice!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
And this is on my list!
@OliverWoodphotography
@OliverWoodphotography 6 жыл бұрын
USB3 will be a great addition to the RasPi but I still love my old RasPi3B. It is the most cost effective general computing solution I have ever seen.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is still very hard to beat a Raspberry Pi. :(
@AnilArya51
@AnilArya51 6 жыл бұрын
I will buy it today as I have ordered it I will get it hope Pi 4 is more faster with more good and better specification
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your Pi! :)
@AnilArya51
@AnilArya51 6 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers due to flooding in South Kerala of India I did not get it 😭can you help e in a way I have a 3b pi old one but USB ports are not working four of then what to do ?? Please reply Yours sincerely Anil.v
@tonyd7601
@tonyd7601 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling us about the Raspian update. I don't think I'm buying the B+ just yet. I will wait..
@ZILtoid1991
@ZILtoid1991 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Broadcom is slowly discontinuing the VidoeCore-IV SoC, and changing to a different one would mean to break some compatibility. We will get an RPi 4 once Broadcom either upgrades its SoC or sells the technology to someone.
@killesfox
@killesfox 6 жыл бұрын
I am wishful too about getting a Pi 4, but I have a strong feeling (mostly by the pattern) that an upgraded/updated PI-Zero will be launched in 2019 and in 2020 we will get the Pi 4.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
You may well be right.
@merher
@merher 6 жыл бұрын
@ 1:14 "it's not in an anti-static bag, that's a bit of a shock isn't it?" Hahaha
@markhandrahan4520
@markhandrahan4520 6 жыл бұрын
Another informative video Chris. Of course yours was not out on Pi Day, it did have your comparison benchmarks and insight on whether the 3B+ is worth getting for those of us with the 3B's. "sudo apt-get install explainingcomputers" never fails... ;)
@DxrinENT
@DxrinENT 4 жыл бұрын
Can you power the raspberry pi 3 model b+ from the wall outlet? What cable do i use to power it usb c ?
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 4 жыл бұрын
You need a 5V adapter with a micro USB connector, supplying at least 2.5A.
@DxrinENT
@DxrinENT 4 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers thank you so much 😁
@evertondave5825
@evertondave5825 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, your videos are alway interesting and I love watching them.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :)
@hikaru-live
@hikaru-live 6 жыл бұрын
If you are comparing thermals on the Pi 3B+, perform all tests with stock heat spreader as well as after delidding the SoC. As of the delid tests, I would suggest direct heatsink on chip, Arctic Silver under the IHS and Liquid Metal under IHS tests.
@ChinaAl
@ChinaAl 5 жыл бұрын
I want to monitor (video) my 3D Printer and be able to stop it if a print goes bad and I"m not home. Can I do that with this? I heard something about an OctoPi?
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
You can indeed do that with a Pi, with OctoPrint and a Raspberry Pi camera added.
@ChinaAl
@ChinaAl 5 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Ahhh Great Thank you.
@davidoswald2155
@davidoswald2155 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, this video explained alot for me.
@snafu673
@snafu673 6 жыл бұрын
@geniusaur
@geniusaur 6 жыл бұрын
id quite like to see some plex benchmarks for all of your boards (how many transcoded streams it could handle) maybe a future video???
@catsupchutney
@catsupchutney 6 жыл бұрын
"oooh oooh it opens that way! Excitement!" - so British
@RandyWHorton
@RandyWHorton 6 жыл бұрын
Your explanation of the maker boards are very nice. I do however wonder what else can be done with these boards in a usable for common cunsumer market?
@Carsman50
@Carsman50 6 жыл бұрын
Hey there Chris! Great video. The comparison was needed and it's awesome to see the new specs at the old pricing too which is wonderful. But as you were saying, they will be left behind for the enthusiast crowd but as something entry level it seems its not lacking in versatility. Anyway I have sent you an email regarding my request to be on a podcast. I hope to hear from you soon. Brett.
@nathanmead140
@nathanmead140 5 жыл бұрын
Can the poe connector power the fan when the pi is plugged into a USB cable? I just got my fan today and it works good off the 5v and gnd pins on the gpio but i want to know if any of the other connector and port can power a fan
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 5 жыл бұрын
The PoE pins only contain connections for Ethernet -- The PoE adapter feeds powder the board via GPIO. So the 5V and GND GPIO are the best option for powering your fan.
@elviraeloramilosic9813
@elviraeloramilosic9813 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Ec in 1080p! 😊 Great video! 👍🏻🎥 Again, I was enjoying it! 🎥❤️ With or without Narnia chip on Rpi 3 b+! 👍🏻😁 Although no USB 3 /Gigabit Ethernet it makes my Pi 3 obsolete. 😬 Fingers crossed for 8core, 4K HDMI as well! 🤞🏻
@elviraeloramilosic9813
@elviraeloramilosic9813 6 жыл бұрын
Bleach 🤣👍🏻
@lunatik9696
@lunatik9696 6 жыл бұрын
LattePanda www.amazon.com/LattePanda-4G-64GB-Development-without/dp/B01ID4HYE4/ref=sr_1_6_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523333718&sr=1-6-spons&keywords=lattepanda+4g%2F64gb&psc=1
@elviraeloramilosic9813
@elviraeloramilosic9813 6 жыл бұрын
LatePanda - one of my fav 👍🏻
@willboxowo8782
@willboxowo8782 6 жыл бұрын
jose gonzales The odroid is also a good alternative. But when comparing the price to a old PC, I think you may have more for your money with the old pc option.
@Sembazuru
@Sembazuru 6 жыл бұрын
If I may suggest a minor update to your sketch. Add timing. Both a timer outside the for loop to calculate total run time, and also a timer inside the loop to time each iteration. That second timer might be able to show throttling as the iterations that are throttled should display a longer execution time.
@robertfletcher3421
@robertfletcher3421 6 жыл бұрын
Chris I would like to see this installed in an ELEMENT14 Pi-Desktop case and can we run it as a basic desktop? It would be great to get one of those cases to try. Apparently, any SoC with the same layout as the Pi should fit.
@wlbear2570
@wlbear2570 6 жыл бұрын
I’m puzzled with Raspberry Pi power supplies. I opted for a 5v 3A because I wanted that extra .5a though I’d rather have an official one the maximum they seem to offer is 2.5A. I’ve learned the hard way that some of the cables on sale just don’t deliver the power needed to the board specially the ones with a switch on eBay. I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all these amazing tutorial videos you do. Greetings from Gibraltar 🇬🇮 🇬🇧
@nestoravila2996
@nestoravila2996 4 жыл бұрын
hi, how to activate the wake on lan function in raspberry?
@cassio2999
@cassio2999 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks..... great review I Think Im waiting for "hopefully" a 2019 Pi 4 before I upgrade
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