Exploding Turbo Charger: NS Locomotive Failure With a Smoke Show Near Toledo, Ohio.

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13 жыл бұрын

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This was a great departure scene of an NS mixed freight departing from a red block untill some jack wagon goes around the gates and blocks my shot and after that....... The Un-Expected happens............
NS mixed freight: C40-9 # 8862, EX- CR SD70 #2573(ol' Smokey), SD70M-2 #2737, and C40-9W # ?
The smoke was caused by a blown turbocharger gasket and the locomotive is burning it's own lube oil. it's a huge deal and the loco diesel engine can be saved but it needs to be shut down asap also It got all over me, the camera, and my grandpa's truck, but it was an awsome experience!!!
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@harrodsburgNSfan
@harrodsburgNSfan 13 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the horns on NS's Dash 9s are now equipped with a "make the turbo on the EMD behind you blow up" function!
@17br549
@17br549 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome timing !! The turbo went at the EXACT moment he initiated the air horn.
@Rottweiller4218
@Rottweiller4218 12 жыл бұрын
One hell of a railfanning experience I'd say.It's quite interesting as to how they look when they are puffing smoke like that.It looks just like a steam engine.Awesome video and it was really cool how you got that kind of thing on film.Amazing video!!
@MedicMatz
@MedicMatz 12 жыл бұрын
White smoke from a diesel engine indicates more fuel than compression and oxygen in the cylinder, most commonly caused by a fuel injector "Washing Out" (mechanically failing, allowing a flood of diesel into that cylinder. Black smoke, conversely, usually indicates a blown turbocharger. Great video of the hole going out!
@manic74
@manic74 12 жыл бұрын
Actually oil out the exhaust side of the turbo does come out mostly white, worked on a car with the same problem and I had the same mis-thought as you at first. The smell gave it away. Also water steam dissipates quite quickly, the smoke in the video stuck around for a good while.
@yankinga
@yankinga 11 жыл бұрын
Most turbo failures I have seen result in flames and black smoke. This looks like a cylinder liner failure where coolant is entering the cylinder and being flashed into steam. The steam would be oily too. I got a shot of an ALCO 630 doing the same thing and it was a cracked cylinder liner. White steam tinged with blue from the oil.
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 12 жыл бұрын
Great capture, being at the right place at the right time with video camera running.
@pryletoncyo
@pryletoncyo 12 жыл бұрын
Great video. A return to the age of steam locos. I see a lot of train traffic in the summer, as my boat is harbored next to a rail yard. I like seeing the trains go by. The shunters not so much, as they tend to hog the crossing. Badly designed yard. The gates close when they're doing regular work. Never seen a breakdown though.
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 12 жыл бұрын
It is a dash-9 because the radiators are thicker... Thanks for the comment!! and your welcome!
@deloreanman14
@deloreanman14 12 жыл бұрын
Me thinks that was a steam locomotive in a previous life.
@skaaltel
@skaaltel 12 жыл бұрын
Nothing quite like a large diesel in a potential runaway situation to RAISE YOUR PULSE. These engines can burn the crankcase oil as fuel. Since airflow is usually un-restricted, a turbo gasket like this can cause the engine to very quickly over-rev and send very heavy cast iron pistons on a lively trip. I'm glad to hear no-one was hurt and the engine could be repaired. Thanks for the video!
@texaslonewolf32
@texaslonewolf32 12 жыл бұрын
* I think I can, I think I can*, ( cough, cough,cough) ah the hell with it, I;m done the other 2 can do it....... cool video
@deniob86
@deniob86 12 жыл бұрын
I think that the lead loco isn't a C40-8W, but a C40-8 spartan cab ;) Great moment captured on camera, thanks for sharing :)
@RailfanningRulez
@RailfanningRulez 12 жыл бұрын
The funny part is that it was a EMD, not a GE!
@GTRailroadVideos
@GTRailroadVideos 13 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! That was a great catch, usually don't see that in videos too much!
@rob066101
@rob066101 12 жыл бұрын
After the start the boost pressure maxed blowing the turbocharger . Wide open with a heavy load does this.
@bullseye0071
@bullseye0071 12 жыл бұрын
Im also a big railfan and was suprised to see the amount of smke comming out of that unit. 4 unit average length freight, you'd think it wouldnt be struggling so much as to blow the turbo like that. Lol. Great video
@jasongleiter
@jasongleiter 12 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! Plume of Oil Vapor!!! You record enough, and odds are you eventually get some really cool stuff!!!
@JaZu
@JaZu 12 жыл бұрын
@Railroader007 Agreed, this happened on a ship I was stationed on, we were running 700rpm on both mains (twin Alco v16's) for about 4 hours and rapidly loss pressure in the turbo. The head fractured, most likely from too much stress and the fact that both mains are extremely old..
@fredstuckmann
@fredstuckmann 12 жыл бұрын
Nice catch, that maintainer in his truck probably called them on it too. They can isolate that engine and use the remaining power to move them along. That is, as long as they don't have steep grades to contend with, or more cars to pick up.
@angusyjr
@angusyjr 12 жыл бұрын
woah...i never thought a train can break down like a car. till i saw the movie planes, trains and automobiles LOL!
@sunstarfire
@sunstarfire 12 жыл бұрын
1:46 That musta stunk!
@traindude32
@traindude32 12 жыл бұрын
Those crossing bells sort of sound like the only down here around Manassas :)
@megs905
@megs905 13 жыл бұрын
that train wanted some attention so decided to give a nice big smoke show. That smoke must have smelt nice! :P
@phildoethedildoe
@phildoethedildoe 12 жыл бұрын
Wow, a good blast of Smoke from that EMD engine! :) Nothing like the feel and smell of Lube Oil in the morning~! :) Great Catch.
@BurninBogey7
@BurninBogey7 12 жыл бұрын
I have had the same thing happen to me on a semi-truck before. It left just as much smoke behind too!
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 12 жыл бұрын
@ddd3240 Thank you very much sir, I am glad to hear that you and your grandkids enjoy trains and the excitement that comes with them. And you are welcome! Have a Merry Christmas!
@ThePostal67
@ThePostal67 12 жыл бұрын
Love the smell of Napalm in the morning! Diesel smells good! Downwind at Rochelle IL railfan spot does the same effect..
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 12 жыл бұрын
I do not know if it was shut down or not... but I do know that the loco did not sound very different than usual. hope that answers your question and thanks for the comment!
@The_Random_Aussie
@The_Random_Aussie 12 жыл бұрын
Just a couple of questions. One, do you know if this loco was shut down before any serious damage was done and two, did that loco sound any different to the other three (whehn it passed) or did the horn drown it out? It's just that, being a diesel mechanic myself, it looks like the whole turbo went bang, not just the oil seal. Please understand I'm not trying to doubt what you know, but I'm just curious.
@Jerzrailfan
@Jerzrailfan 11 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's crazy. Ex-CR SD70 2573.
@hogass83
@hogass83 11 жыл бұрын
So do these stick wide open when that happens? Seems to me it's burning on it's own oil and can't be shut down hence the acceleration as soon as the smoke started...
@BBT609
@BBT609 12 жыл бұрын
HAHA!! RIGHT ON CAMERA as soon as he blew the horn :) NICE!!
@TowerClimber81
@TowerClimber81 12 жыл бұрын
That had to stink really bad! Great catch, and nice video! Keep 'em coming =)
@Graham987654
@Graham987654 12 жыл бұрын
should have seen the show we put on today, had two gp-9's spitting fire out the stacks, sparked a couple grass fires but thats just details
@MrDrums76
@MrDrums76 12 жыл бұрын
awesome! my uncle worked for the railroad,he got a kick out of this!
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 13 жыл бұрын
@megs905 The Engineer probbaly had a button titled "railfan surprise" lol and it smelled great....
@ajb07
@ajb07 12 жыл бұрын
Q: can you close down the individual blown unit from the lead loco in a multi-unit consist like this?
@drewb993
@drewb993 12 жыл бұрын
is it normal on NS that sounding the horn on the lead unit blows up the turbo in a trailing unit?
@wasted6666
@wasted6666 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Man dont think ya could get a Better Smoke show than that theres alot of people that know everything aint there
@CycolacFan
@CycolacFan 12 жыл бұрын
A foggy day in old London town! I guess the engineer couldn't have stopped without blocking the crossing?
@est86leo
@est86leo 12 жыл бұрын
Neat video, I haven't had it happen on one of my trains yet, wouldn't want it to lol but, I have had to move some oiled up double-stacks from a mainline set-out, to a house fuel rack to get steam cleaned, due to an engine/turbo malfunction. If I was in your position, I'd of been so pissed lol.
@IndianaRails
@IndianaRails 12 жыл бұрын
By any chance, would this be an old CONRAIL engine in NS paint? About 10-years ago I saw a CONRAIL unit coming out of the Big Four Yards in Avon, IN that did the same exact thing. It was like someone laid down an instant fog screen in the area and it lasted for about 1 to 2 minutes. Neat capture on your part - I didn't have a camera when I saw it.
@tank2g2
@tank2g2 11 жыл бұрын
Ive always wanted to operate a locomotive
@death3443
@death3443 12 жыл бұрын
wow but it pulls and pulls and pulls damn that power is crazy *.*
@MF11283
@MF11283 12 жыл бұрын
@AmtrakCSXRailfan to add to your reply...oil isnt burning in the "turbos crank case" the turbo seal goes bad and lets oil into the exhaust side of the turbo letting it flash off. same as dumping oil into the tail pipe on your car. turbo is still boosting but its pouring oil into the exhaust
@musskeeterbump
@musskeeterbump 12 жыл бұрын
those engines would make one heck of a bong
@fyadcorp
@fyadcorp 12 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it was running away (the prime mover, not the locomotive) ?
@Railroader007
@Railroader007 12 жыл бұрын
@Batojiri1 Where do you come up with every time? I think the fact that I spent 2 years in Heavy duty diesel Mechanics school carry a state license and railroad for a living I think gives me a pretty good idea... Just saying, when was the last time you worked on an sd70?
@Duffblue
@Duffblue 12 жыл бұрын
@juliachan1987 Oil, I've seen it happen on my friends cars when they go the cheap route when adding a turbocharger to their cars. The oil lubricates the turbo impeller, and if there is a leak it's metal on metal. It heats up superfast and explodes. Usually, you just have to replace the turbo, other times you have to replace everything. Cool video!
@johntaheri
@johntaheri 12 жыл бұрын
is this same as blowby or it's differant ?? thank for the vedio
@TCPUDPATM
@TCPUDPATM 11 жыл бұрын
That's a LOT of oil!
@Nalinc33
@Nalinc33 12 жыл бұрын
how do you say 100% blown turbocharger gasket ??
@Xantec
@Xantec 12 жыл бұрын
shows the airflow around the train pretty well.
@super87cole
@super87cole 12 жыл бұрын
@AmtrakCSXRailfan what did it smell like? any differnt
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 12 жыл бұрын
thanls! @Slonya23
@ishtech101
@ishtech101 12 жыл бұрын
@juliachan1987 did he stop and check it out, and was he just trying to get the train out away from populated area?
@MrCool82
@MrCool82 11 жыл бұрын
BLAH!!!! That white smoke STINKS!!!!
@MedicMatz
@MedicMatz 12 жыл бұрын
What I really like, is at 1:26 where you can see they cut power from the blown loco and it loaded up the others! Note the black smoke from the lead engine. They others all probably loaded up as well to compensate, but you can't tell because of the huge cloud of oil smoke... I agree, it is pretty blue as it passes, and it sounds like you know it did ; }-~
@pschlik
@pschlik 12 жыл бұрын
So the lead is a dash 9? I never kenw GE made non-widecab dash-9s.
@Downriverboys1
@Downriverboys1 12 жыл бұрын
WOW! Great catch and video!
@DougsTrains
@DougsTrains 12 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they can shut down that number 3 loco from the front unit or do they need to stop to do it?
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 12 жыл бұрын
@watchingcrazycrashes black smoke is actually unburnt fuel and white/ blue smoke is burnt oil, it was caused by the oil burning in the turbo's crank case causing the white smoke with a blue tint in the video. this would be referred to as a blown turbo. Also, it was a very warm day not a cool one. Thanks for the comment though
@K31TH3R
@K31TH3R 12 жыл бұрын
Maybe a dumb question, but is an operator required in each engine, or are the electronics all chained together to be driven from the cab in the front?
@ubangiestomp
@ubangiestomp 12 жыл бұрын
Gives new meaning to "The fog rolled in". :)
@generationll
@generationll 12 жыл бұрын
Looks like fog rolled in.Spectacular smoke
@NS6677
@NS6677 12 жыл бұрын
Damn thats pretty sweet! Great video!
@MarkShannonroad_videos
@MarkShannonroad_videos 12 жыл бұрын
Yowza! That is some serious smoke! Bet is smelled nasty! Great video BTW.
@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER
@AUSSIETRAINDRIVER 12 жыл бұрын
This is engine oil, not fuel.. most likely a cracked cylinder liner feeding oil into the combustion chamber and not being fully burnt.
@eddieg749
@eddieg749 12 жыл бұрын
that is really amazing! Nice video!!
@acuarofilio
@acuarofilio 12 жыл бұрын
turbo exploded or one of the piston rings??
@mikesavago
@mikesavago 12 жыл бұрын
@fabzcardon Turbochargers only last so long and eventually the bearings go out, causing it to stop turning suddenly. And the white smoke was probably caused from the oil which is used to lubricate the turbo bearings leaking into the hot exhaust.
@nocluewhere
@nocluewhere 12 жыл бұрын
Big loco wished to be like he's old man - A Steam Train. He's doing a bloody good job of it, total white out.
@tony46214
@tony46214 12 жыл бұрын
Was that on the former Conrail Chicago Line????
@ps3dethman1
@ps3dethman1 12 жыл бұрын
@basspiq i belive they have air dams in front of the turbo just incase this were to happen, they cut off the air supply so the engine can not run. also it will only run away if oil it aslo going into the intake side, and there would be ALOT of black smoke.
@wabash373
@wabash373 12 жыл бұрын
It is excessive fuel, the rack may not be set correctly or it is just a "smoker" or (this is taking it a little far) the governor is shot. The one GP-40 we run smokes all the time, we replaced the governor (when it went) and checked the rack.
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@buttmanroad
@buttmanroad 12 жыл бұрын
Man it made its own Fog
@redyoshi1985
@redyoshi1985 12 жыл бұрын
@RailRKO57 in Manchester isn't the rail width smaller? I think I read something about that.. The US standard is exactly 4 feet what is it where you are RailRKO57
@484berkshire
@484berkshire 12 жыл бұрын
I love how it went off right as the horn was sounded, like a steam whistle. It didn't blow a turbocharger, it was undercover as a steam locomotive!
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 12 жыл бұрын
@turnoutjim There is not technically a bang for a blown gasket though... Thanks for the comment!!
@TezJ16
@TezJ16 13 жыл бұрын
@iRECKONER You took the words right out of my mouth!
@Delfinmar
@Delfinmar 12 жыл бұрын
Very cool and thank you.
@atsf3780
@atsf3780 13 жыл бұрын
My n scale loco of that exact lead unit sounds like that goin up the 3% grade on the club layout lol
@Froginthemouth406
@Froginthemouth406 12 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I wond what the engineer thought when he looked back. LOL
@jusprazem1
@jusprazem1 12 жыл бұрын
@AmtrakCSXRailfan Was that laughing gas in the train smoke....i heard laughter...LOL....did they eventually stop after that.
@DiddlyDom
@DiddlyDom 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid!!
@Dakakeisalie
@Dakakeisalie 12 жыл бұрын
I know how diesel-electric trains work, but I didn't know they had turbochargers... cool! and lucky shot
@SJRailroader31
@SJRailroader31 11 жыл бұрын
Right place at the right time! Nice Catch!
@ProjectRescues
@ProjectRescues 12 жыл бұрын
reminds me of the good ol days. 1800's locomotives are back again. sortof,lol ;)
@Graham987654
@Graham987654 12 жыл бұрын
they have to walk back but there are walkways on the locomotives so they can do it while moving
@BNforever2009
@BNforever2009 12 жыл бұрын
yea, thats SD-70 needed some work done on her
@NYCTAFreak500
@NYCTAFreak500 13 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with a second unit like the NS SD70 loco? Sounds like a fuel problem. In the beginning, it was perfectly fine until 1:15 that it started smoking at the exact honk of the horn of the first unit (Dash 9). I guess the SD70 is not in the mood in much of a horn show lol
@mishagray2835
@mishagray2835 12 жыл бұрын
Very very smooth video!
@dirtshower250
@dirtshower250 12 жыл бұрын
haha were i live thats the worlds longest rail stretch awesome riding my quad beside them I AM AT LEAAS 30 YARDS AWAY!
@NSNWFAN34
@NSNWFAN34 12 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the horn?
@switchpoints32
@switchpoints32 11 жыл бұрын
where was this at.
@AmtrakCSXRailfan
@AmtrakCSXRailfan 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@PantherLineProductionsofOhio
@PantherLineProductionsofOhio 12 жыл бұрын
How did it smell?
@englishacoustics
@englishacoustics 12 жыл бұрын
@AmtrakCSXRailfan You're right, white smoke almost always = turbo oil seal blown.
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