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[@personwhohasayoutubechannel3]

If you and markiplier talked at the same time you could commit a mass crime of lullabying everyone to sleep

[@garygood6804]

Simp

[@PurpleHaze2k9]

dammmmmn that wouldddd be destructive!

[@borisboris2798]

I kinda hate how accurate that is. Insomnia beware!

[@nickelblock784]

him mark and swagger souls i need a little variety😂

[@riccy123]

Only reason I watch him is because of his deep voice🎉

[@MrVohveli]

Spiffin Brit next episode: Blurring is perfectly balanced

[@RyanJosepher]

Oh. Spiffing Brit will find them. Always

[@r4ko276]

So... did you try to unblur it ?

[@Cara.314]

if you're curious, look up deconvolution, i've used it with out of focus images before. ofc, there's ways to make it not work but it takes extra effort when blurring. reminds me of the serial killer who used the spiral filter to twist their face in images and it took the detective quite some time to figure out they could just untwist his face with the same filter

[@Cfomodz]

No.. he didn’t *try* to unblur it lol

[@ojonathan]

​@@Cfomodz but why would him anyway? the image has information that someone want to hide, and he respected that. Also, why would he want to unblur ir anyway? Just to prove his point? It doesn't make sense.

[@Serovious]

@@ojonathanto satisfy personal curiosity, simple reason

[@lmao4982]

I wonder if video compression might make unblurring pretty difficult

[@talonfoulker6563]

What game is in the background?

[@Milk-unfunny]

Baldur's gate 3 I assume

[@ChesterCheatin]

​@@Milk-unfunnyashes of creation, how tf you got bg3 is beyond me.

[@brendanr1525]

The Witcher?

[@crackerjack7574]

fortnite

[@rokudodamaza]

"Don't blur it" My screen immediately proceeds to switch to 144p and blurs his face, great timing

[@Fytrzaczek21]

Thor: don't blur it Device: *sike*

[@jeau07]

i was your three thousandth like 🤯

[@redacteddataexpunged]

Im a believer of "players should be able to destory the game for themselves but not for others" so I agree with you just most of the way not all lol.

[@allenellsworth5799]

As a fan of speed running. Exactly this.

[@Realience]

Yeah, it depends on the game Wow or War Thunder or some other multiplayer game that you spend a significant amount of time interacting with other players and your abilities directly has effect on them? Yeah patch out exploits asap Skyrim or Dragon Quest or some other single player story driven experience? Who cares, if you use a glitch that dups items or you cheese experience, you're not hurting anyone

[@allenellsworth5799]

@@Realience Exactly.

[@brandonhanrahan1748]

Some games if you ruin it for yourself you inevitably will ruin it for others if not everyone else. Mmorpgs are a prime example

[@allenellsworth5799]

@@brandonhanrahan1748 How so?

[@baxterdevin]

This is why you find his voice so comforting, because you can hear the lack of malice and it puts you at ease

[@lindzeesouperocd7558]

Reported

[@smilesbrib]

@@lindzeesouperocd7558Souped

[@justinx590]

Holy crap you’re correct.

[@smuggzmug7595]

No it’s just good mic + eq

[@lindzeesouperocd7558]

@@smuggzmug7595 reported

[@Robyn_iz_Here]

"Blur isnt destructive" i sure hope not their music is pretty good

[@Grei_Undyne]

Nardwuar would disagree with this sentiment

[@Robyn_iz_Here]

@@Grei_Undyne oh god what did Blur do to Nardwuar ?

[@Grei_Undyne]

@@Robyn_iz_Herehe tried to interview them and one of the members was abusive. They later apologized but it was a huge dick move

[@grixxy_666]

Yeah I officially no longer like Blur due to their awful treatment of Nardwuar

[@Robyn_iz_Here]

@@Grei_Undyne I went and watched it. Jesus. That's 2 on the bad blur members list

[@user-vk2cd9qw7i]

Nintendo made this mistake when they blurred out a menu option of super smash bros ultimate during a reveal. Fans were on that

[@spiralofants1236]

That's how the name for Spirit mode was discovered early! Never blur, always block!

[@NapanTR]

Can't find any mention of that. I mean there is mention of the blurred menu but not the reverse engineering part.

[@Bloodhoven]

is there a longer more detailed video on that topic

[@lolface_9363]

You say mistake I say genius marketing decision

[@theredgoblin562]

How is blur non destructive????? You can resharpen a blurred image

[@charliemiller8871]

This guy is The spiffing Brit's Natural enemy

[@weirdo908]

😂😂😂

[@jonathandelaughter4102]

I was thinking the same thing. Lawful versus Chaotic.

[@bigman8994]

We need to see the vs each other

[@Geckoreo]

@@bigman8994 "Battles are competely balanced and have no exploits" or something like that?

[@redjoker365]

Spiffing Brit is very publicly reporting on the exploits and often given early access to games specifically to find exploits so the devs can fix them, so I'd say two sides of the same coin here

[@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer]

I Like The Spiffing Brit's (self proclaimed "Master Exploiter") take on exploits: It's fine as long as it's either Single Player or with friends (as long as said friends are fine with it). He technically had almost full control over the market on 2 servers in FFXIV once, but that's an exception to the rule.

[@lifeline_]

Or against a major company/organization (steam, youtube, etc.)

[@natroze_]

You'd probably like LetsGameItOut. He does everything within his power to break games.

[@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer]

I know, I'm already subscribed. But he doesn't try to exploit (although poorly implemented gambling is always good)@@natroze_

[@lucbloom]

Ohhh another LGIO fan? Is there a limit to the amount of catchphrases we can get? Let’s find out!

[@chrayez]

@@lucbloomhold, please!

[@chuggywoo]

Some blurs are destructive, others aren’t. Depends what algorithm is used on the blur

[@chistopherr7536]

@@chuggywoo I’m certainly no computer security expert but if an algorithm exists can’t it be reversed to reproduce the image? Maybe unless some kind of manual user input was used as part of the algorithm like wiggling the mouse to create a one-time key or something?

[@CycleMantis]

​@@chistopherr7536I don't know about blur, but it's very easy to have an algorithm/transformation where you cannot determine the exact input even if you know the output and algorithm used. For a reductive example: the transformation could be "multiply input number by zero and add 1"; the output is one, what was the input value? In any situation, when multiple inputs can produce the same output, it could be said that some information is "destroyed" by the transformation.

[@Kaycegamez]

Ya which in and of itself means that blue itself isn’t destructive but a component of it can/cant be

[@Rune3D]

"I'm not a fan of using exploits, I'm a fan of finding them." Spoken like a real QA specialist!

[@artyd42]

That's just what a tester does. We're not happy with exploits, but when we find them, we make it 100% reproducible report so they can be fixed. I've made and deleted so many characters for the sake of testing over my lifetime.

[@polar1371]

And then there's bethesda who could give less of a shit. "What's that? You've made a one shotting fork and a set of armor fit for a god by abusing restoration, alchemy, AND enchanting? You found an exploit? Naaaaah you found a FEATURE. Enjoy your fork."

[@asgardironman8867]

Right but they aren't live ya know sharing said exploits before they can reasonably be fixed but he does so he's really relying on strangers to do the right thing

[@cloudsteele1989]

​@@asgardironman8867​Except the dev is watching as well, so they can try to hotfix it. Instead of you know, just saying 'Don't do that', like the dev did here. It's kind of laughable. "don't open your GM panel? How about you make it so I can't?

[@Hingusbingus4]

​@@artyd42cope. If you didn't want the exploit in the game you should've fixed it before the game came out. It's a feature at that point

[@avramlevitter6150]

Mathematician here: most blurs are done using a filter called a convolution. For every convolution, there is another convolution that reverses the effects. So while there are destructive blurs, most are not, for one because the non-destructive ones are much so much faster.

[@poopfartlord9695]

Interesting, I never thought about reversing blur. I've implemented a gaussian blur algorithm in a computer vision course before and never thought I could just invert it and recover most of the information.

[@LeMicronaut]

There was also a case where police discovered the identity of a man who was using a photoshop swirl effect on his face. Needless to say, that's all he did, and all the computer forensics team had to do was learn the transforms and unwind it.

[@LeMicronaut]

@@Hudpower when you say low pass I'm more aware of audio, but if the range of colors for a pixel is 0-255 for 3 channels, could you try brute forcing the low pass filter through addition to find a q and cutoff value? Cubing 255 is ~16.6mil combinations, but if you only add half the range, 128, you're down to 2mil combos per pixel. Whole images would be rough, but blurring things like usernames on a game might be possible. Also, could you describe what the low passing effect looks like on blurred images? I'm thinking it would desaturate, darken, and lower the contrast of the image.

[@thereinthetrees_5626]

@@LeMicronautand it took them 5 years to try it

[@timdettproductions6734]

What? How can there be an inverse to a convolution ? Most methods of deconvolution I've seen are iterative algorithms that are pretty finicky, and never 100% accurate. Plus, most blurs are gonna be gaussian/box. When you take the fourier transform of those kernels, you get a gaussian/sinc, which will both cut off high frequencies. The frequencies that get brought down to 0 are lost, that information simply isn't there anymore, you can't bring it back.

[@dballls]

That’s how they found Mr. Swirl. His swirl thankfully wasn’t destructive.

[@metabolic2057]

True, i remember Reading about that. They had a hard time finding that dude.

[@Carl_with_a_k_]

Tho I’m sure if he blurred his face he’d be a lot harder to find

[@asmalldragon]

That guy was a substitute for one of my classes at my high school right before he got caught. It was only one day and he just sat quietly in the corner of the classroom while we did worksheets/homework. Next week or so news trucks and reporters were crowding the school parking lot. That night I saw the news and, yup, it was 100% him. Glad he got caught.

[@Carl_with_a_k_]

@@asmalldragon and my mailman was the unabomber 🤡

[@Theotricz]

@@asmalldragon that’s insane?? Omg

[@TIOLIOfficial]

Throwback to every documentary about drug dealers and criminals where the faces and car plates were blurred:

[@someguywithamic9]

not like the blur is turned on 3 seconds after a clear shot of the face is shown anyways lol

[@n00bxl71]

​@@yinnkyaveraging the colors of surrounding pixels is convolution. Just with all the values in the kernel equal and adding to one. It's probably the easiest blur to "undo".

[@omfgblondie]

I worked at a games company which had weekly multiplayer testing on their games. But because the game was so big, you needed 10-12 weeks of 2 hours weekly to test it all. Eventually these multiplayer tests became really big (like 15+ people in a campaign, when 99% of players never played with more than 3 people in one) and so competitive that they started handing out trophies to the winners. This caused issues because people would find exploits and not report them for fear of being unable to use them to excel the next session. So a rule was added that if you find an exploit, then you are allowed to use it for one session and then you have to report it straight after. I remember one time a member of QA approached the game director and lead designer about an exploit/balance issue. He was told it was working as intended and would not be fixed. Then he proceeded to use said balance issue to DESTROY the GD in the first session of the new campaign. The GD was basically out, no way to come back. It was fixed before the next session.

[@technoid9784]

That sounds like a fun team to work with!

[@aeden8008]

It's always fun when they say the very obvious issue is working as intended. Less fun for whatever dev gets saddled with fixing it after the reps are forced to eat their words.

[@Axymoon]

I was a "top 5" player of a certain private server of a certain mmorpg i'm not willing to name, it had daily 3-5 thousand players. I suggested a lot of qol changes, reported a lot of bugs and balance issues. Most of them didn't get implemented nor fixed. (they had a discord where you saw if they accepted or discarded your suggestion, so i knew when they discarded it) The server died out eventually and they decided to re-open it, with the VERY SAME changes i suggested them 6-10 months before that. Since then i just can't bother with game devs. They refuse to accept your opinion out of spite or laziness most of the time.

[@wulf2623]

You know what IS destructive? Scrum-related explosions.

[@pvpminer9007]

Fun to see him already up to shenanigans on Ashes before it even released.

[@asiburger]

A what now?

[@chroma1080]

Nice profile pic

[@Izunundara]

Rugby bombs

[@Telesto_Timelost]

**feature**

[@CaptainCling]

For interest sake: Image blur is a convolution operation. It is achieved by taking the average color of a window (for example 3×3) of pixels and assigning that average color to the pixel in the centre of the window. This window then slides across all pixels in the image. (This operation results in data loss, but not always. It is not always destructive and can in certain limited cases be reversed with 100% accuracy.) There are ways of trying to work back/estimate the original image to a certain accuracy. This is called deconvolution. Deconvolution attempts to reverse the convolution by taking into account how color spred through the image and attempts a reverse operation to the original blurring. There are also other methods. One really cool method is iterative. This method attempts to guess the original image, then blur it and observing how closely the blurred guessed image matches the original blurred image. This process is then repeated over and over again until a close match is found. I do not exactly know how it works, but I assume some data is obtained on each iteration, fed back, and then used to improve the quality of the next guess.

[@piercexlr878]

If I had a guess I'd say you take advantage of shared pixels. So with the 2 boxes that overlap by 2 rows you have 1 non-overlapping row each. The difference in those areas are entirely a result of those non-overlapping areas. I'm not actually familiar with the algorithm but it seems like a valuable data source. Especially the corner pixel if they go for a same sized image blur since that one will only have 4 pixels involved and you can remove half of them

[@sirdeadlock]

A great way to hide information which requires a cyhper to decode.

[@randomhero123]

@@piercexlr878 Sounds like my wife playing sudoku iteration puzzle games, maybe she's deconvoluting blurred images and I think she's just playing puzzle games.

[@piercexlr878]

@@randomhero123 Fun (for me) Sudoku fact. It is actually a great example of problem difficulty. There's an open problem in math (P vs NP) that basically asks whether if you can check a problem quickly. Can you solve it quickly. While Sudoku is quick to check we have not found an algorithm to quickly solve it. So in short Sudoku is an obstacle on someone's way to a million dollar prize.

[@piercexlr878]

@@randomhero123 Side note to my previous comment. The related math problem would pose massive issues for cryptography if we aren't careful.

[@hyprjay]

My older brother that passed away started KZbin back in like 2006 with posting PlayStation videos of him exploiting walls and strafe jumps in cod3 and world at war. I remember he had like 1k followers and then activision sent him an email asking how he was able to find so many. Little did they know, my older brother had me and all 3 of my younger brothers farming walls with strange jumps at the ages 8 to 14 lmaoo

[@anarmedillo8431]

sorry for your loss

[@YesHumphreyAppleby]

Haha

[@bunkle932]

legendary

[@wendigojimmay9150]

Lost my older brother also and we would do the same stuff after playing endlessly we would end up just trying to find spots by jumping off random stuff to see what the game would let us get away with lol. The good ole days of just good times and split-screen matches and we would pinky swear we weren’t peaking if we were on opposite teams 😂ahahaha.

[@topgoose4818]

Couple of brotherless dudes in this thread, lost mine too. My brother also had a KZbin channel, showcased whatever funny glitches he found in Morrowind or fallout or whatever. We’ll be alright boyos.

[@fishdott]

I believe the game is Ashes of Creation

[@thomcat2704]

Nope! Its Blur of creation now 😂😂😂😂

[@John-mf6ky]

Thank you! Looks like it is

[@joshturner6074]

I agree that for multiplayer games exploits are usually a pretty bad thing. However, some of the best single player fun I’ve had has been using exploits and glitches to change the way a game played enough to keep playing a while longer.

[@allenellsworth5799]

I think it is one sign of a good game.

[@ExKalowbar]

I like how in souls games you can do goofy stuff like *ACHIVE FLIGHT*

[@HerpaDurpVg]

Destiny1 raids early on had super fun cheese strategies that involved getting out of bounds which obviously wasn’t intended but it was fun and replayable Elder scrolls games are notoriously easy to break for the enjoyment of the player

[@scozzbaggs9224]

Yea that's so true. Finding or just performing glitches in the original Halo trilogys campaigns with my friends was peak gaming

[@Depl0rable10]

Also, goofy exploits are the hallmark of speedrunning often so people keep buying your game for years (unless your Nintendo and turn off the eshop while getting mad when people pirate 20 year old games)

[@cammywammy420]

I work in a law office, and you would probably not be surprised to know it's a similar philosophy when it comes to redaction, and there is a surprisingly similar amount of deficiency in people understanding that philosophy lol total destruction of information, otherwise, you didn't do shit and it's a risk to people's identities and livelihoods

[@sweypheonix]

If I'm remembering correctly, the US government released 'redacted ' Docs that just had black bars put over stuff in Word or Adobe and were completely removable by anyone viewing the documents.

[@skuld8985]

@@sweypheonix plus people can reverse engineer words by the physical length of the word and letters

[@sweypheonix]

Any idea what method, if any, is used to mitigate those attempts? Randomly determining length of the redaction? I guess I would use a completely retyped version with used no matter the length of the stuff being covered or something along those lines Edit: I removed the linked person because I thought they were the OP who worked in the law office and had info into the above question.

[@eclairdawnlight8470]

​@@sweypheonixin a digital document you could add length to each blacked out part to make it a series of uniform lengths I guess. For IRL documents, I feel like reprinting them with redacted information removed completely & replaced with "[redacted]" is one way to do it, albeit very time & effort consuming... Hi I have 0 experience in security so these are merely guesses! 👋

[@sweypheonix]

@@eclairdawnlight8470 they seem like good guesses and I didn't really think before asking, my Curiosity just strikes hard and is all-consuming sometimes and I wasn't sure how to Google it effectively.

[@lahnhedberg3403]

In wow as a 10-12 year old I loved finding ways to glitch through the map. Like the famous example you jump on a barrel in stormwind and a wall lack collision on a spot so you fall through and can survive on low hp. Found this by myself because I could not speak english at the time. Managed to somehow jump in the air making me fly and accidentally dragged an entire quest required group of mobs underground than got myself killed. I did not use these things but man it was just a pure fun feeling finding them from what I remember

[@dragon9372]

I used to RP with that glitch

[@I_TheLandlord]

Yeah getting under Stormwind was always fun. Glitching into Hyjal, man you just unlocked so many memories of good times.

[@MrNobodyX3]

Blur is 100% destructive as long as you use the right pixel count. You gotta do 75 pixels or more if you think otherwise I wanna watch you undo a blur.

[@asceticwolf]

I did that on a server when I discovered removing said item allowed you. It was coded to allow flying in water without the item to run the check it just let you fly until you put the item back on.

[@hellishentity7886]

I just wanted to say I just stumbled across these shorts recently but as a OG wow player and old school gamer I really love watching this guys videos. This is the most wholesome, brilliant, funny channel i find myself watching all the time. Love this guy!

[@joshpcs]

There is a type of reverse Gaussian algorithm that can get close to putting a rough image back together. It’s not as good at putting text back together, and it depends on the amount of blur. It’s not COMPLETELY destructive, but you can’t argue that there is zero loss of information. To your point… just put a block over it to be safe.

[@richardmillhousenixon]

Or pixelate. The bigger the pixelation the more destructive it is

[@SaHaRaSquad]

@@richardmillhousenixon Pixelation has the same problem. Reconstructing text or numbers doesn't need a lot of information as there aren't many possibilities. It's even easier for things like blurred credit card numbers because those have checksums so you can even double-check the results to some degree.

[@shabadooshabadoo4918]

yes, this is my thought exactly. It should be at least partially destructive as I think in many cases it uses pixel averaging.

[@minartson]

@@shabadooshabadoo4918 This guy is not unblurring that text. He is a smart fella but he also talks a lot of shit.

[@7e21]

@@minartson Don't talk with too much authority if you don't know what you're talking about.

[@nathanrosman-bakehouse359]

Sometimes the game needs to be broken to be fixed. If a game is overly grindy and you find an exploit that speeds up the grind, that to me is fixing a failing of the game.

[@BygoneT]

You're wrong. That's completely subjective. I played horizon ZD on ultra hard because i was having fun with it, and enjoyed even the grinding because it kept me on my toes trying to avoid 2 hit kills. Most people did not enjoy the "grind" (which can be sped up if you're skilled) so they thought the game was at fault. It's just you. Not the game. Finding the balance between good grinding and bad is very hard because no grind feels pointless and too much grind feels painful. And there's nothing a game can do to please everyone in this regard.

[@nathanrosman-bakehouse359]

@@BygoneT hey fella? Remember when I, me, this guy, said "sometimes"? Do you remember that? Are you implying that what I said is never the case? Cause I said sometimes. That means, not all the times. Doesn't even mean most of the time. It just mean that there are times. I get if you don't understand English and were confused but the fact that you commented. That you felt the need to say something so stupid with that "ummm actually" energy... go interact with people in the real world for a bit and journal about how they respond to you. You will get to normal some day, champ.

[@BygoneT]

@@nathanrosman-bakehouse359 Fella 😂 I can legitimately picture your words said by some overly aggressive american dude in an action movie who almost gets his ass beat by the protagonist, that's how unreal your reply is. You should audition for future John Wick spin offs, your energy would be much appreciated, I'm not joking. I work in the industry. Anyway, that sometimes is dictated by your tastes. It's not real. MMOs are meant to be disgustingly grindy and time consuming which is why some people bot, cheat and try to find exploits. If you want to do that, it's fine. I'm saying that there is no objective "sometimes". Because some people genuinely don't care that they have to brainlessly perform the same actions to get currency or some drop. Not all games are the same but the feeling that a game needs to be broken is an interesting question, because for sure it highlights some potential issues, but just like piracy you have to figure out if it's a real problem you can solve (Some dude in Brazil can't buy $80 games on release so they pirate a lot, or like Metallica who made bank going to the places where their music was most pirated), or if it's just a large number of people who don't want to do what you set up for them for personal, and therefore largely irrelevant matters (as far as game makers are concerned).

[@nathanrosman-bakehouse359]

@@BygoneT you completely do not understand words. Nor social conventions. Nor what the plot of John Wick was. Of course the writers forgot that when they made the second one. I am not engaging with you further because even if I was able to convince you that I was being sincere and was endeavoring to help you grow as a person, I can't get through to you. Good day, pester someone else now.

[@BygoneT]

@@nathanrosman-bakehouse359 Nah you're too funny. For real. I can't detect any sarcasm or indication that you're playing it up. You still don't get that you're wrong even when I explained it thoroughly, no game "needs" that. That, and why do you even think I said the spin offs? There's always space for a guy like you, so convinced in his ways he even thinks there is "hope" for me, or grow. Makes for great side characters, or even some protagonists. You should seriously audition for something. You have actual energy and poise for acting, I can tell through text, it's that good. Do it. Someone will notice. Idk about hero roles first but you'd definitely make for a great villain or anti hero. You'd be doing the world a service by not being another run of the mill "dude enemy". Just do it. Do it to spite me if you want but please do it. Your age doesn't matter as long as you're over 25. Or, well, look over 25.

[@TheFrankvHoof]

'Blur isn't destructive' - Depends on the number of passes.

[@MyRegularNameWasTaken]

I've never seen any tool that attempts to unblur an image successfully recover information. It may not be destructive, but is it actually undoable?

[@babyelephant3077]

A playlist series on security would be very interesting

[@MartinDxt]

In practice blur is sorta destructive, because the amount of information per pixel is rounded to 8 bits precision ,so u loose a ton of information and unbluring doesn’t usually give high detail features. If you had access to a raw image after blur then maybe it’s possible.

[@cameroneridan4558]

White Hat Hackers are the definition of Chaotic Good

[@sebastiangudino9377]

Doesn't it depend on the type of blur? Most blur convolutions are indeed not reversible

[@tobiassalisbury245]

With the exception of Minecraft Certain exploits become part of the game (not most dupe glitches, but a variety of farms use the game mechanics in stange ways, or actually break an item in the game) TNT duping, the correct diamond mining level, and building nether farms on the roof are examples of exploits that add to the experience

[@andydarling8951]

God this man has the voice of an angel. And he won’t take advantage of exploits in a game. What a treasure, what a gem

[@TheAlcoholic27]

The game industry needs this kinda honesty

[@minartson]

What honesty? It's almost impossible to reverse a digital blur, the pixels are destroyed. You would need a quantum computer to recreate that image and even then it wouldn't be perfect.

[@TheAlcoholic27]

No tf its not 😆 Try to have at least some idea what you're talking about

[@papismurfie]

@@minartson I'm with you here. I'm not sure what the point of the original short was intending. If I were to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he's trying to bring awareness to the potential dangers of using blurs by pointing out that not all data is destroyed in the process. However by going as far as saying blurs aren't destructive is simply untrue. It just doesn't destroy it completely and using it in scenarios where you don't want ANY information leakage (such as passwords or private images) wouldn't be good. But the way it's voiced just doesn't inform the viewer in any way other than leaving with the understanding that ALL BLURS ARE NON DESTRUCTIVE which, while his intentions may have been positive, is simply a lie.

[@ImAlsoMerobiba]

​@@TheAlcoholic27 you clearly don't. Thor is not 100 % accurate here and this isn't the first occasion. He either dumbs things down too much for chat and Shorts, or unknowingly is misinformed. You shouldn't take everything he says as gospel.

[@TheAlcoholic27]

Reverting filters one of the first thing we learn in cyber security 😆 They've even covered this in the news to warn idiots doing newd "art" on IG. But I always appreciate input from m'redditors who work at gas stations 👍

[@algrant33]

I've worn glasses since second grade. I've had practice staring through Gaussian blur every single day of my life for the first 10 minutes I wake up until I put my glasses on

[@shadowa1ien473]

glasses gang UNITE

[@Robot-Overlord]

This game aint never coming out

[@GravitasZero]

Yeah, I remember finding exploits in MMOs with a friend. We played a lot and were pretty good so we’d often find some. It was always pretty fun but we usually went against using them because it ruined the experience (unless the game was annoyingly grindy and had micro transactions to speed up progress… it those cases we didn’t hesitate for a second. If the company is greedy and ruins gaming with their greed, then I see no problem in ruining their game).

[@flowmastaflam]

I’m just listening to the NPC conversation in the background

[@NerosCosmic]

LOL that last bit sounded like it came straight out of a pamphlet for proper gaming etiquette

[@t.b.cont.]

It depends. For live service games or multiplayer games, totally agree, but part of the fun of single player games is breaking them, like rpgs especially any of the ones made by Bethesda

[@DoctorDoorknobsForever]

The one game that I feel rewards exploiting and doesn't become less fun when you use them is Minecraft. String and sand duplication glitches are such time savers

[@creepyloner1979]

blur is destructive, but how destructive it is depends on how blurred it is and how it's blurred.

[@ialsoagree1634]

Yeah, this was an oversimplification. Blur can absolutely be destructive.

[@maagiapall]

Exactly. I'm not sure what his point is. Blur removes information. If you blur it enough, you're left with a single colour (essentially what he suggests by putting a blank rectangle over it). Obviously there's a point at which enough information is removed that it's incomprehensible. And obviously if you just blur it a tiny amount, you can make out what was there before, and probably use techniques to sharpen it back up again. So is he saying that this instance of blurring wasn't strong enough to adequately hide the underlying image?

[@VoidplayLP]

​@@maagiapall blur is done via algorithm and most standard blur algorithms are reversible, youre loosing very little information that way

[@maagiapall]

@@VoidplayLP I feel like you ignored most of my comment.. The very fact that you lose SOME information, doesn't matter how much, means that is literally not reveresible. And, given enough iterations, ALL of the information would be gone. Go on, open up photoshop and run gaussian blur thousands of times. Tell me the resulting single pixel is somehow reversible.

[@VoidplayLP]

@@maagiapall actually it depends. Gaussian blur is pretty much entirely reversible, though I think if you do it enough your values start going outside of the bounds of pixel information and at that point its sufficiently scrambled, but then you might as well just put a black bar over it cause thats essentially what you're doing

[@SolarPatrol]

Audiable chocolate

[@labcoatgorilla6784]

There was an exploit found in street fighter 6 just before EVO (big tournament)and the guy who found it told all of twitter. I’d say he may have saved the whole event. Basically with a specific control style and by holding 3 buttons you would have perfect defense in the corner. This would make any random player look like a top player in those situations, and it would rob some top players of a fair shot at a big prize pool, so it was a godsend that some guy literally just told everyone instead of using that knowledge for himself.

[@coryyoung7544]

That specific exploit wouldn't have beaten a semi decent pro though, it wasn't very hard to deal with but just kinda annoying. If I had to throw an actual exploit that did win a tournament I'd talk about for honors sweep attack becoming unblockables if you unlocked from your opponent.

[@labcoatgorilla6784]

@@coryyoung7544 it was literally unbeatable in the corner. It was so strong capcom dropped EVERYTHING to remove it, which they have never done before or since.

[@coryyoung7544]

@@labcoatgorilla6784 it wasn't a perfect guard just basically an auto guard and auto throw tech. It wasn't unbeatable but very annoying, easily counter by command grabs. Just looked it up and JP was the most played character at evo, he basically counters it full stop since he's a zoner.

[@labcoatgorilla6784]

@@coryyoung7544 that’s right, for some reason I forgot 3 of the 4 lowest tier characters in the game (and manon) have a grounded command grab. That probably came up a lot in those JP matches. For everyone who isn’t Jamie, Zangief, and Lily, that’s still a very strong, very braindead option that ensures the zoner that flooded evo does not have to think about defense at close range, the one thing that JP struggles with.

[@coryyoung7544]

@@labcoatgorilla6784 I know you ment to be snub about it (or are just sounding like it to me) but your right those characters struggled to pressure JP with it that being said it definitely wasn't an unbeatable combo.

[@crittomato7043]

I also love finding exploits and only using them if they dont cause harm. When destiny 2 had crafting bug/exploit, I crafted a sword with 2 Eager Edge perks. If you swing your sword while in air with one eager edge you go forward a nice distance, add ther 2nd one its much further now. There is a mechanic called well or shatter skating, that causes you gain insane momentum and people use eager edge to gain it further. but having it doubled I managed to fly so far and hard that I kept dying or going 1hp due to collision and died of laughter a lot. Great times, wishing the 2 eager was an actual thing :(

[@TheCustomFHD]

The definition of Blur is destructive. But you need to be sure youre using a lossy blur, and that it randomly jumbles the pixels (and each of their color bits) a bit, And optimally have it be a gridded blur, that then gets blurred again into one big thing. (And, well, you should discard a few bits of color depth) That way its definitely not recoverable.

[@TAGfrost]

I assume blur isn't destructive, means that you still can gather slight information even if you can't read the information. Like number of categories or types of categories or data input length.

[@cappytalysm]

Actually its because most blur effects are entirely reversable if you know how to do it. If something is blurred in a certain (very common) spread of different ways, it can simply be unblurred, basically not blocking anything at all for anyone mildly determined

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

​@@cappytalysmRight. For every blur, there's an equal and opposite blur (an anti-blur, if you will) that cancels it out.

[@n00bxl71]

Effectively, every blur uses convolution. This means it multiplies a moving window of pixels with a matrix of numerical values. Algebraically, all of the original values can be recovered, and for every convolution, there is another that reverses it.

[@sideways5153]

A locksmith passing by your front door and telling you your lock is installed wrong is very different from a burglar popping it open and letting themself in. One person fixes problems. The other exploits them.

[@futuza]

What about the burglar who lets themselves in, and fixes your plumbing and then leaves a note that you should do something about the poorly installed lock and then locks up and leaves?

[@danilotorres4762]

Hey could anyone let me know what he meant by blur not being destructive and a block being more cyber secure? Im really curious about the reason

[@dog209]

If u know the algorithm that blurs u can basically unblur it with 50-70 pixel correctness making basically everything readable like personal info or passwords a black block is just black their ain’t shit in it

[@danilotorres4762]

@@dog209 makes sense thank you sir! I didnt know it was easy to get the blurring algorithm

[@dog209]

@@danilotorres4762 there are basically 3 big ones by Google, Microsoft and Apple wich are used by 90% of people and the rest is niche shit or so simple u just decode em

[@ferociousfeind8538]

@@danilotorres4762 most blurs online are the exact same blur that you have access to in any old image manipulation program (photoshop and the like), a gaussian blur. Gaussian blurs also have a fairly distinct look compared to other similar blurs

[@KarpetBurn]

Hes absolutely right, cheating in games just leaves you feeling dissatisfied, you didn't do any work for the gear you have, and by not earning it legitimately you are essentially skipping a core part of the game, why bother even playing the game if you're just gonna fly over every hurdle?

[@Average_Elf_Player]

Nah, I play Bugthesda games, if you aren't exploiting the game you're doing it wrong

[@7kortos7]

is that Ashes? LOVE that dev team. been following them for almost 7 years. would be stoked to see you in game.

[@lol20yo]

Was looking for the name in the comments too, is it ashes?

[@7kortos7]

@@lol20yo Ashes of Creation. very very promising mmo. and the dev team is top notch wonderful people.

[@fruchu]

He said multiple times he will play the s**t of out this game including finding and reporting any exploits he or others will find

[@HumanAki]

The Sam Sulek of gaming and man am I here for it!

[@fbgmerk8178]

What game is this?

[@mattcurtis8681]

That's what I was looking for too

[@VXGamingTV]

@Fbgmerk8178 @@mattcurtis8681 This is the lovely game Ashes of Creation, not out yet but I hear Stevens Lovely voice in the background!

[@alejandrorivas4585]

Ashes of Creation, its in the description

[@highmonkeyfilmz77]

I disagree. Depends on the exploit. If its something that can benefit everyone it can be fun. If its something you do like going under a map and prevent anyone from doing it and unfairly killing players thats not fun or fair. It depends on the exploit

[@PREGAMEDISCHARGEENJOYER]

I’m ok with exploits if they make tedious things easier without ruining the player experience

[@Dominik-K]

I love that attitude a lot! Finding them is fun, fixing them and making the game better for everyone is an amazing feeling

[@MV-wn6kc]

Wait can blur be unblurred? Are pixels not lost?

[@simperingham]

Blur is destructive, it’s just not completely destructive. I’m not sure what exact methodology he’s referring to, but assuming the pixels are replaced with the blur then you can only speculate on what’s underneath. The trouble is that we have very good tools to speculate nowadays. Pixelation is better, though it always depends what level of security you want vs what level of representation you’d like to retain. And of course certain types of data are more susceptible to cracking than others. The image looked like a video game inventory… that is definitely data that’s pretty predictable, for instance.

[@ahegpbtrftcotu]

Given that blur and pixelation in general are just averaging values of adjacent pixels, there are only just so many coherent combinations that can result in the exact blur displayed. Especially if you already somewhat know what you're looking for.

[@ferociousfeind8538]

a gaussian blur will very predictably displace pixel colors, and output pixels further away from any one input pixel will receive less color from that pixel, in a smooth gradient that gives you a lot of information to work with. There are indeed only so many input pictures that could possibly produce the blurred output picture (and, to an infinite degree of accuracy, there is only one picture that perfectly produces that exact blurred picture)

[@Astraeus..]

It's a thing done via software. Most things done via software can be undone via software as well. If you took a painting that was wet and physically blurred it, nah, that's done. But software has to run that process via a specific set of operations, which leaves open the potential for those operations to be undone/reversed.

[@Merble]

@@ferociousfeind8538 Homie, wtf is an infinite degree of accuracy?

[@orty59]

I'm all for exploits in a single player game. If you use them during multiplayer you suck.

[@Runzi333]

You are the kind of person I think about when people get all weird about robots taking over. Machines are what you put into them, put in good and you get good, put in the rantings of jerks you get killer robots lol More tech spaces need empathy practices and teachings and you're a wonderful example!

[@Almighty_DarkLord]

Where can I watch the full thing?

[@Taaz2]

this, gib me links

[@cortexauth4094]

"I am not a fan of using exploits, but fan of finding exploits" I really relate to this! I started into programming with offensive security, tho I am now more tending to systems development.

[@Industry-insider]

It definitely does remove detail

[@Dremth]

I think he meant that he can capture the render passes and see the panel before the blur is applied. Blur is destructive generally speaking, just not typically with real-time rendering.

[@Cara.314]

@@Dremthi think he meant you can use deconvolution to unblur it. if it's from a video with any compression it may lose a lot of detail though

[@Wobblywiener]

@@Dremth he's watching a video. Blurring a video to that extent is definitely destructive...

[@pizzanut180]

Wdym ? cheating in games and exploiting its way more fun than playing it, specially in cases of games that are P2W

[@Krystalchan2009]

My rule with exploits is as follows: you giggle at the power you have for five minutes, then you ship off the ticket. In some games i play that have slow dev turn arounds for patches i share said info with others to see everyone have fun as long as its non destructive

[@kipchickensout]

never seen someone reliably reverse that kinda blur, would be interesting to see the process

[@kipchickensout]

still haven't

[@ndricimhalili9793]

The thing is, sometimes the devs don't listen until the bug is exploited. So Imma exploit cuz ain't nobody got time for dat 😂

[@FreerunningGamer]

Every single clip I see is just you casually spittin facts, or sharing a story you remembered. It's great!

[@nenrikido2903]

It's not a fact and what he says is actually false or at least only partially true : Most blurs can be reversed, but never to 100% and some blurs are even non reversible You do loose information when blurring even if you can recover 80% of it, so it is destructive.

[@gio3061]

I remember the story of a pedo who was caught because he taunted law enforcement by posting pictures of himself with his face blurred, they just reverse it

[@ddok907]

blur isn't destructive? that can't be fully true. obviously information is lost if it's blurred

[@sadsongs7731]

Blur is DEFINITELY destructive. However blur has degrees of destructiveness. If a blur operation isn't destructive enough for you, you can just iterate over it.

[@tertmemelur1880]

ngl I see it more as "if you find an exploit you're opening new speedrun possibilities for yourself and for others" but I also don't play online:'

[@fortysvideoarchive]

Im of the reasoning that its fine as long as you dont effect others and it for dumb stuff. Sure I found an exploit that lets me dupe items, so ima use it in this usless bucket hat you can't even trade to make so many that any normal person would consider me insane. Then I'd report it.

[@Prince_Luci]

I’d argue that new Vegas is a better game than it should be because of exploits not being fixed.

[@devyanshjoshi485]

What game is it ?

[@capt_coffins4651]

Unless it’s GTA V. Them mfs are greedy so imma glitch my money

[@OfficialYondoth]

*Me exploiting Morrowind older code.* Its a feature!

[@ZelX-]

So cringe

[@mbjac]

Life is literally finding exploits and profiting

[@Deaganus]

Unless that exploit is what makes the game fun.

[@2dense582]

Something about this guy just rubs me the wrong way

[@luckyblockstudio9132]

Can someone explain what he means about the blur?

[@whenandwheretv]

What game is Thor playing ?

[@skorpers]

Mask it out, blur the mask, and then add a block over it, then put an image over the block, and a second mirrored image with blur and pixellation for good measure.

[@root4217]

If the blur is strong enough it is

[@lucastornado9496]

Youre telling me blurr isnt lossy?

[@brownbear992]

what game is he watching here?

[@matthewmabry1116]

i can not stand this streamer

[@Konqy]

literally using his powers for good instead of evil.

[@DynamiteLs14]

Ur wrong exploits r fun

[@AtomicDubstep1]

What Game is This??

[@psuw]

Depends on the blur

[@darkdante2k4]

Depends on the type of blur

[@ProtoAzula]

He says after admitting he exploited WoW years ago lmao

[@lillii9119]

It wasn't exploit, it was a fun game mechanic which the devs unfunned

[@ProtoAzula]

@@lillii9119 because he exploited the fun game mechanic lmao

[@Kynk]

When did markiplier and howard stern have a lovechild?