The professional qualifications behind your guys analysis makes your channel far more insightful and interesting than any others. Thank you for sharing
@heatherreich26872 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and they just keep getting better with the analysis and also pointing out red flags 🚩 in abusive relationships.
@giantfatberg2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I think Jim Can’t Swim was just a couple of criminology students that had a falling out with each other and threw a good thing down the trash. I appreciate the credentials on this EWU channel.
@raiders72942 жыл бұрын
@@giantfatberg Where'd you get that from?
@justinbennett99982 жыл бұрын
@@heatherreich2687 I know that red flags that are being pointed out has saved at least one relationship...
@CissyBrazil2 жыл бұрын
Agree totally and completely. Well said @Todd Durante
@Khak12 жыл бұрын
Will you guys do one where someone is being falsely accused? You always say "an innocent person wouldn't do this" so I want to actually see how an innocent person would react
@RandomCommentingGuy2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting indeed! Think most observations on here are pretty accurate. Lot of doubt about the arm gestures though. i feel like throwing your arms up like 'what?!' while being accused would be pretty common for anyone. Guilty or not
@madchubbsgames_it48952 жыл бұрын
@@RandomCommentingGuy yea ive thrown my arms up being honest
@ashav3li2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they've done one about an innocent person before, or might of been a similar channel
@RandomCommentingGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@madchubbsgames_it4895 Right? Seems more like defensive behaviour than anything else.
@RandomCommentingGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@ashav3li You're right, the Ryan Waller case. Think it's the saddest case i've ever watched.
@avengingstorm17102 жыл бұрын
I feel like one of the hardest parts about being a cop is pretending to like someone you want to throttle for doing a crime you find absolutely disgusting.
@eveybumbaca2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! And these detectives are amazing. I’m thoroughly impressed
@Shadow-In-The-East2 жыл бұрын
Kind of like working in the service industry eh!
@mermaidmomma36962 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@Coffeemancer2 жыл бұрын
pizza delivery is a harder and more dangerous job than police
@senoow42152 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow-In-The-East daily job sometimes 🤣🤣
@5iveb1 Жыл бұрын
the fact he keeps calling her “ugly” or “the ugly one” knowing she’s deceased shows you what kind of person he is.
@stephanieconsi4825 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree and I know this is shallow but he’s a beast himself. No room to talk at all.
@rachaelb8914 Жыл бұрын
He thinks he's a 10....when he's more like a 2.
@5iveb1 Жыл бұрын
@@rachaelb8914 exactly.
@jacoblewis5130 Жыл бұрын
@Rachael B if you're only going by looks bc factor in his ego and he's a - 100
@FungeHucker Жыл бұрын
@@jacoblewis5130 factor in that he's a murderer and it plummets even further 😂
@robwayne2 ай бұрын
Chelsea was my high school girlfriend's best friend, and I got to know her a little bit. She was so kind and had a bright future ahead of her. There was a time period where some believed her killer would not be caught. I'm glad he was brought to justice. Rest in peace, Chelsea. You deserved better.
@RarityAndGraciesGhost8 күн бұрын
I hate the way the detective talked about her
@Nurturing26 күн бұрын
I am so sorry!!! 💔
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley6 күн бұрын
@@RarityAndGraciesGhost It's an interrogation method. Minimize the victim and the crime committeed toward them so that the offender can relax and admit more information that can lead to a confession. Going in guns blazing and yelling at someone that they murdered a sweet, amazing person is just going to make then clam up and demand a lawyer. I've even seen videos on here regarding pedo's and the cops will say something like, "Yeah, she's a cute little thing. She looks older than she is" regarding a child, just to get a confession. It's disturbing, but effective.
@PipByMac2 жыл бұрын
Why anyone would think a cop is on their side in the middle of trying to get a confession out of them is beyond me
@hellojelen25982 жыл бұрын
Well, they're murders so pretty nuts and fucked up, not normal thinking
@Illlium2 жыл бұрын
Simple brain trickery, when you're making eye contact and pretending to care about bullshit stories as if they're true and/or relevant anything is possible.
@petivisti96812 жыл бұрын
thats the power of manipulation theyre using manipulative techniques
@alazymonkey57162 жыл бұрын
desperation; I suppose
@TheresaRobertsonLROL2 жыл бұрын
Blind hope. They desperately want to be believed so they go with what appears to be a life line.
@AidaraRose2 жыл бұрын
It will NEVER fail to make me laugh that when interrigators say "I'm not trying to trick you" they're DEFINITELY trying to trick you
@fluffylittlebear Жыл бұрын
@@DannySebahar Yep. If he simply shut his mouth he'd probably be a free man right now.
@MrTylerPDX Жыл бұрын
@@DannySebaharhalfway thru the interview reading comments this made me laugh they said we have fluid and made a lie to cover the rape his own lying demon tricked him into confessing to torment his soul more in prison. truly evil ppl don’t care what anyone thinks just ask for a lawyer truly smart ppl don’t care what anyone thinks just ask for a lawyer ppl who care what ppl think of them never stop talking.
@exantiuse497 Жыл бұрын
IDK about the rest of you, but I find it disturbing how the police seems to actively try to trick the suspect into waiving their 5th amendment rights. There's always a part in these videos where the narrator says "now the police does this and that so the suspect doesn't ask for a lawyer", as if the Constitution is some nuisance and the police skirts around to follow the letter of it instead of respecting its spirit. If and actual criminal confesses because of it that's good, but I think there's a reason why we have those rights to begin with. It's a fact that plenty of innocent people go to prison (provably innocent, as in people who are later proven innocent), and I have a feeling this police tactic has a lot to do with it
@lilylin1199 Жыл бұрын
@@exantiuse497 to an extent you're right, but the majority of false imprisonment is negligence with evidence, scummy attorneys, and racism/sexism :// I think out of everything the detectives do, skirting around the 5th amendment is within their right. They say clear as day that at any point the suspect can stop and call an attorney, sometimes they say it multiple times and have the suspect repeat it back to them. It's just another tactic imo
@philbaglio5964 Жыл бұрын
@@exantiuse497😊i
@c.w.simpsonproductions12302 жыл бұрын
I’d ask why he didn’t ask for a lawyer, but since he’s a narcissist it makes perfect sense that he’d believe he could talk himself out of anything. A perfect way to demonstrate how brilliant he is, being able to outsmart the police.
@tracybriskar76762 жыл бұрын
FOR SURE!!!
@juliemclain44302 жыл бұрын
So true,and you gave me a little chuckle. Thanks
@AmyJoyLandry2 жыл бұрын
Always the dumbest fks who believe they're the smartest 🙈. He sounds ridiculous when he says she was hot enough for him to recognize or remember her 🥴
@WitchOnABroomstick2 жыл бұрын
👌🤭
@GrumpyIan2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, anything other then 'I invoke the fifth' is just going to dig yourself into a deep hole. I remember reading an article years ago that most cases are solved by confessions and if you don't say anything your odds of winning/ not getting charged skyrocket.
@anantgugi20098 ай бұрын
These videos are miles better than most Netflix docs
@BazookaTooth7076 ай бұрын
That's because it's genuine. It isn't fluffed and overproduced.
@SaltySicilian5 ай бұрын
That’s because it is straight up content without the frills. No cut scene, music, dramatic re enactments that are laughable.. straight up content with some narration is all we want.
@KaladinVegapunk5 ай бұрын
I mean the Reid technique is total nonsense and BS, as nonsense as lie detectors, just like being able to lie to suspects etc its just a blunt weapon haha not some great psychological process
@brooketaylor8085 ай бұрын
Random but I noticed on a lot of the Netflix documentary's people talk like they're saying a question. "She was really sweet? She loved everyone?" It's so odd and honestly really annoying. "We found DNA that didn't belong to her? That made us question? " like the same tone and same question at the end. So odd
@Whogivesashit7214 ай бұрын
They at least get to say words like “blowjob” and “sex” on Netflix lol
@somethinginthenothing2 жыл бұрын
I know it's a mood killer, but when your friend is clearly blacked out drunk and belligerent do NOT leave her alone in a random place! You can be mad at her tomorrow or end the friendship, but you don't leave people you care about as prey for these sick predators.
@Lars19962 жыл бұрын
True
@GreatwhiteShark882 жыл бұрын
I left my friend alone and he came back 6 years later…
@amarissimus292 жыл бұрын
By the time you've convinced a belligerent drunk to do something, it IS tomorrow. But if you're a sucker for abuse, go for it. When it becomes a nightly chore, it gets less appealing. (insert obligatory caveats)
@BootyBandit772 жыл бұрын
facts you will never know if it’s you ofc we would all want people to take care of us for our misbehavior cause shit happens sometimes 💯💔
@lostnvenus34882 жыл бұрын
@@amarissimus29 They left her without transportation and without her phone! If you feel this way about a person and you know their history or don't have patience, you shouldn't have even picked them up from their house!
@feluto71722 жыл бұрын
The Detective: "Trust me im not trying to trick you" He was, in fact, trying to trick him
@tonibratina2 жыл бұрын
...multiple times...
@bryanbulmer67162 жыл бұрын
he got the shit tricked out of him.
@HyphyJuice9162 жыл бұрын
"I've been straight up with you." LOL He sure wasn't
@459luker2 жыл бұрын
I don't know any cops, but i imagine that they must absolutely hate having to read people their maranda rights. "If you talk to us we can use anything you say against you. Would you like to talk to us?"
@drakelardoh2 жыл бұрын
Biggest one is she didn't even have brittle bone and the Sargent said so
@topspot48342 жыл бұрын
This applies to both girls and guys ... Don't leave a friend behind at a party or a club or a night out. No matter how obnoxious and insistent your friend is, don't leave em ... And have that conversation before you go out, so it's not a surprise if/when it happens.
@nevermind197002 жыл бұрын
I agree. I felt so bad for Chelsea , but I also kind of hold the party security responsible as well. This party was huge , an annual event with over 1000 people in attendance. The guy who held the party was somewhat smug about the fact Chelsea went missing. I think he seen Daniel and kept his mouth shut. He was only worried about his reputation, and the fact his so called party security was nothing more than a farce.
@mackaylacook1482 жыл бұрын
2 in same 2 out
@TDOLLA2 жыл бұрын
It’s true but I used to have a habit of going out to bars/parties and getting drunk and not wanting to leave… I’m a dude and typically other dudes will only ask a few times before they just leave you… but leaving a drunk girl behind somewhere is an absolute no no because drunk girls are a target for losers and scumbags… I used to live in a party house when I got out of highschool and more than once I had to intervene and stop some guy who was hanging around and circling a visibly drunk girl like a vulture…. granted I don’t think the guy wanted to brutally murder the girl… I know what he wanted to do but we never let that kind of stuff go down in our house and If a group of girls came over and one of them got too drunk I would make sure they take her with them when they leave lol.
@tomgjgj2 жыл бұрын
@@TDOLLA Drunk girls are absolutely a target, but drunk guys can easily be too. Leaving a mate on his own drunk is a stupid move, for anyone reading.
@tomgjgj2 жыл бұрын
@@TingTingalingy For sure. Just a message to anyone out there not to assume drunk guys are safe and to not leave them walk home alone. In my area, guys get drunk far more often than girls and they're a lot more likely to be alone.
@Bruce-c6y9 ай бұрын
2 baby mamas? Which women are sleeping with these losers?
@Gwyllgi5 ай бұрын
Women who have never had male affection outside of users like this, and think its normal
@New_Creature_4 ай бұрын
The other losers
@SleepParty304 ай бұрын
loser women get loser men. it is what it is.
@JustLoro4 ай бұрын
True, the cycles of abuse continue...@@Gwyllgi
@jshshsshshsj3 ай бұрын
great question mate
@whatthefridgemagnet2 жыл бұрын
I ditched my safe ride home to call a drunken stranger's mother, and I stayed with that girl until her mother came and picked her up! Never leave vulnerable people behind!
@chazbchaz50362 жыл бұрын
💯💯
@chazbchaz50362 жыл бұрын
💯💯
@tesstickle64622 жыл бұрын
You're a real one 😘 thank you for being a good person 😊
@crushed_oreos2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely legendary
@AW-xc1xc2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@Jack130012 жыл бұрын
“I’ve ruined my life, too by doing this.” “Not worried about that” I love how the detective doesn’t hold back now that he has enough evidence to put this bastard away for life
@paulwoodford19842 жыл бұрын
That was harsh
@officialparrishpage42 жыл бұрын
@@paulwoodford1984 him killing that girl was harsh wdym 😳
@Devghost2 жыл бұрын
@@paulwoodford1984 No it was appropriate because he’s still breathing while chelsea isn’t.
@goobcity2 жыл бұрын
@@paulwoodford1984 you cant be serious
@spectral_laughter2 жыл бұрын
@@paulwoodford1984 pathetic, weak comment
@katicorn42142 жыл бұрын
They way this man talks about women is actually terrifying especially given context of his actions
@chickenfarmer2092 жыл бұрын
now do rap music
@FinnErns2 жыл бұрын
Fr bro, the fact that they are talking about a woman he KILLED, and he has the guts to smirk and say something was 'f**king hilarious' makes me really impressed that the cops kept their cool.
@chicken40902 жыл бұрын
Ok
@ismth2 жыл бұрын
@@Nonybusinessxxxxxx weird to call out rap music specifically as if women have been talked about any differently in other genres, or in any other media for that matter. Misogyny can be found everywhere in our media, it's what happens when you live in a patriarchal society.
@sticksbass2 жыл бұрын
what about that its much harder for good hearted men to get anywhere w the typical woman?
@anna_razumovich2 ай бұрын
Leaving your intoxicated friend alone at the party, no phone,no car. It's a crime too. Such friends she had
@crashburn32922 жыл бұрын
Daniel's version of being honest: "I started getting a little tipsy." "I don't like to get drunk." "I won't lie. I drove drunk." "I don't get drunk." "I was wasted."
@2degucitas2 жыл бұрын
"i was so fing drunk I choked her!"
@wendyescalera6662 жыл бұрын
And conveniently doesn't remember the part where he beat her to death because he "was so fukd up". Sure Daniel.
@tyjohnston58892 жыл бұрын
"ok, I may do a tute."
@saintazepam2 жыл бұрын
even after the confession that he did in fact kill her, he keeps flip-flopping. "I was fucked up, I was out of it" "I wasn't THAT drunk"
@juliabrouwer12842 жыл бұрын
I BLACKED OUT lol!
@sheikbombalot57812 жыл бұрын
Protip: No matter if you’re guilty or innocent, if the cops start bringing up a dead girl, it’s probably a good idea to say: “I’d like to help as much as possible, but given the seriousness of the matter, I’d like to speak with an attorney!”
@tandiparent19062 жыл бұрын
I totally agree; but, it was his OWN DECISION to waive his rights to have an attorney and then to go ahead with the interview/interrogation. The detective told him when he mentioned about maybe wanting a lawyer that they would have to stop talking; but, he said that he was going to waive his rights for an attorney being present and continue talking to them; so that part was absolutely no one's fault but his own.
@georges97602 жыл бұрын
I'd rather idiots like this waived their right to an attorney and confess.
@oregonsdank2 жыл бұрын
Do you think smart people murder innocents? No they don't.
@devynb72622 жыл бұрын
i watch so much true crime that at this point i feel like if police showed up at my place and asked for me i’d say i need a lawyer
@spackerinternational61312 жыл бұрын
I don't think they would have ever had enough on him to take him to court for murder. He gave them everything they needed. I'm glad he did but it's hard to watch as well
@mime454 Жыл бұрын
He keeps calling women ugly but he’s definitely no prize.
@cboom3205 Жыл бұрын
Dude built like a cartoon henchman
@muddywaters0819 Жыл бұрын
Usually the case trailer park people…
@NunyaBizness2.0 Жыл бұрын
I hate this interrogation because both officers keep talking at the same time.
@lisaa.4667 Жыл бұрын
I agree. He looks creepy.
@pisstakecentral11 ай бұрын
@@lisaa.4667so does ur dad...
@thedirector19219 ай бұрын
“I don’t really like to get drunk, just a little tipsy.” “How much did you have to drink?” “A pint of vodka and some fireball.” 🧐
@MagesseT117 күн бұрын
🤯
@daisiesofdoomКүн бұрын
That's not too much for a seasoned drinker.
@briannnaaX2 жыл бұрын
and by the way, I LOVE the color coded subtitles, it helps SO MUCH on top of the already helpful SUBTITLES! This channel is the best!
@lindaarrington93972 жыл бұрын
It's the opposite 4 me I cannot read the colored ones at all
@omayrasdemesne2 жыл бұрын
@@lindaarrington9397 are you colorblind?
@grumpyone38062 жыл бұрын
So, do tell how do you get these color coded subtitles?? I want them too!!!
@nom67582 жыл бұрын
@@grumpyone3806 you didnt watch the video, bot.
@shilohivy45902 жыл бұрын
Same
@zoliking Жыл бұрын
The suspect at this point states: "I'm stressed out", this is an indicator that he's experiencing stress.
@SammiHurlrealrreal Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@jamieodonnell500 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@annoyedreview2155 Жыл бұрын
The suspect is breathing air further indicating he is a live and still a prime suspect
@ZacharyPatterson-z4v Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification.
@spencerjames8989 Жыл бұрын
lol
@neildiamondcuttr2 жыл бұрын
Them continuously stroking his ego while questioning him was brilliant. His ego is so big that it stopped him from getting a lawyer.
@bunnyfoofoo96952 жыл бұрын
Ego is way bigger than his pea brain.
@jankowalski94162 жыл бұрын
Narcissists have NO ego. This is the reason why they pretend to have a huge one. Dont get this messed up like many people do. Someone who has a huge ego CANNOT be as evil as narcissists are.
@neildiamondcuttr2 жыл бұрын
@@jankowalski9416 nobody was speaking abt ego in the Freudian sense. Ego meaning sense of self and self importance. Everything narcs do is in service to that egotism
@jankowalski94162 жыл бұрын
@@hazard3483 on what exactly? Do you disagree and this is why you are asking? You would have to ask a specific question. I dont know what you are looking for when asking me to "elaborate".
@jankowalski94162 жыл бұрын
@@hazard3483 Thats what my first post was all about. People constantly confuse it when i read the internet. Even some psychologists repeat this bollocks. Narcissist has no ego. He has no sense of self importance in this world. He has no identity at all... Someone with a big ego would have a very specified identity, quite a narrow one in a good sense. Also quite closed boundaries whereas a narcissist does not have any personal boundaries. You can approach him and insult him or spit in his face on the street and.... you will see no reaction. He doesnt have dignity, he doesnt feel offened (although he feels humilliated). Someone with big ego today, also had many friends in the past, there were many events that created memories. A narcissist? There were no event in his childhood, he had no friends (0 exactly). He was abused entire childhood by his narcissistic parents and bullied by his peers. He was completely isolated. This is how you create a narcissist. To be more specific , THE ONLY reason that made someone a narcissist is isolation. There is no other reason for developing this disorder. No general abuse can make you a narcissist. No mental, no verbal, no sexual. ONLY lack of contacts with people from an early age. I will quote one of the psychologist : "an ego does not develop in a vacuum". That just proves that what i write is correct. You cannot develop without interaction with other people... Narcissism is not just another disorder, it is not even another personality disorder. It is a development disorder in a way. You are stuck in a limbo, without an identity. This is also the reason this disorder is 100% permanent. No there is no cure and there will be none even in 1000 years. Once you are a narcissist, thats is. Game over. None of us have a time machine. Last thing that i wouldto repeat-someone that has a really big ego IS NOT capable of doing really evil things. Only those without an ego or with a "broken ego" are. Narcissist has no ego, psychopath has no ego. Borderlines have "broken ego" but they are not too far gone, not in a limbo. They can recover. Any other things that you would like to discuss?
@sarahnicoool9 ай бұрын
No reason on gods green earth am I leaving any of my friends alone at a party without their phone or purse. Something ain’t right with these “friends”
@patriciasisson845 ай бұрын
How was she supposed to pay for her drinks?
@Josecannoli12095 ай бұрын
@@patriciasisson84… you don’t pay for drinks at a house party? Lol have you ever been to one?
@Kristiekins25 ай бұрын
@@Josecannoli1209 unless it's a super fancy one, my friend hired a bartender for a party once, but that was a super bougie type party.
@Gwyllgi5 ай бұрын
Yeah the thing that is wrong with them is they are fucking terrible friends and I hope her mother never lets them forget it. There have been multiple times where I have had to babysit young women who are drunk out of their minds and whose friends ditched them. I initially met my best friend when we were both 20 years old, she had gone with some friends to her first ever "adult" party. They got her drunk, and then ditched her to go fuck their boyfriends, one of them drove behind a liquor store to do it. She was 20 years old, had never been drunk before, just wanted to enjoy being an adult and have a good time. Her friends had her do shots of tequila and then ditched her.
@joniecehansen56654 ай бұрын
Facts! No Girl left behind is the #1 rule when going out with the girls.
@TopFurret2 жыл бұрын
Disgusting how this guy literally killed someone but his main concern is still how HIS life will be inconvenienced after getting caught.
@beeeeeeeee79512 жыл бұрын
Can i hear you say “psychopath…?” Lol obviously that’s what he is.. I just started watching but I know that’s about to piss me off. Hopefully a kid isn’t hvrt🤦🏾♀️
@michaelbrownlee48572 жыл бұрын
Seems like more of a MURDERER, RAPIST and narcissistic sociopath to me Which is just as dangerous as if not more than any psychopath
@jamesharris1842 жыл бұрын
That's a recurrent theme. There's a case of a Canadian skater ice skater who had attempted to have both of her parents killed, I think one survived and throughout the questioning she kept saying but what happens to me? The cops did an exceptional job it was a fake home invasion and they said the satellites could see through her house and saw that she was involved how stupid can you be.
@jurgenfreiberger65932 жыл бұрын
HE WASN'T IN LOVE With HER, WHY WOULD HE HAVE ANY FEELINGS
@beeeeeeeee79512 жыл бұрын
@@jurgenfreiberger6593 so cus he didn’t love her, it’s ok that he k!lled her? Or did I just ready your comment wrong?
@gawbe2 жыл бұрын
"Its not my fault I was drunk" is something I will never accept from anyone ever.
@tbird29522 жыл бұрын
Me either! And the "I don't remember bc I was drunk" is usually a lie.
@perseus94282 жыл бұрын
You notice how few thumbs up your comment has received? That, as much as anything, shows how far this society has collapsed.
@gawbe2 жыл бұрын
@@perseus9428 60 is alright. This is an old video.
@fartquaviasdingle78762 жыл бұрын
"it's not my fault I got raped I was drunk." This is why we shouldn't always use absolutes.
@xoreign2 жыл бұрын
@@perseus9428 people have been getting drunk and viewing it as an acceptable and occasional side effect for a long time. I'm guessing you're above the age of 50 or so, and think society is objectively getting worse and suffering a moral decline. That would not be viewed as a valid excuse in the current day. And people not giving it a like is not an indication of anything. All it indicates is that people didn't stop to click. It's not that deep.
@Snaxarus Жыл бұрын
I’m from this area and worked with the initial suspect at a steel plant. If you look up the sketch they initially put out, it was a dude with thick rimmed glasses and 2010’s sweeping bangs. Everyone was CERTAIN that he had something to do with it. I was shocked when they announced this guy had been found guilty. I hope the original suspect is doing well now. I can’t imagine all the trouble that caused him.
@pr1m35311 ай бұрын
Shitty part is..noone cares about the damage caused to wrongly accused. Its business as usual when the real killer is found
@drizzyfest628511 ай бұрын
Liar
@biankalatoma47759 ай бұрын
@@drizzyfest6285?
@misomanic36159 ай бұрын
@@drizzyfest6285 🤡
@american_cosmic8 ай бұрын
@@drizzyfest6285 ?
@jennymichelle81 Жыл бұрын
"I don't get drunk" *You're dna was on her* .." I was wasted"
@PallasAndDove Жыл бұрын
Right?!? 😂
@RGPGAME-Z11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@the_BoiWond3r10 ай бұрын
LMFAOO
@allOizzOwell10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@elayasiaruiz45678 ай бұрын
i think he meant he doesnt have the ability to get drunk
@Maria-hw1uq2 жыл бұрын
You'd think that a man currently in jail and who went through the justice system many many times would think to ask for his lawyer... Narcissism at its best
@patty.cakes.2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking
@limonick33532 жыл бұрын
Better Call Saul !
@ms.pirate2 жыл бұрын
I hate narcissists! My dad's one and I can't wait too fxcking move away from him! I hope that dude gets a looooong jail time
@cosmicmuffin3222 жыл бұрын
More like sociopathy or psychopathy, I reckon, although he could be diagnosed with both for sure. A severe malignant narcissist is almost indistinguishable from a psychopath anyway.
@killbillfanaquiahora2 жыл бұрын
The common theme seems to be that most of these guys are ridiculously dumb or naive, because even if you were going to "participate" in an interview, they always inevitably insinuate that you are the guilty party. It makes no sense that someone who has gone through the system multiple times would agree to an interrogation without an attorney. Its basic self preservation.
@signedjordan22852 жыл бұрын
I can't express how much I appreciate the subtitles!! Transcripting everything and then editing it in is a lot of work but it sets you far ahead from other channels alike. Keep it up!
@Chelsea-lp1gc2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!! I love the subtitles. So appreciative of them especially when they mumble.
@kingayy92672 жыл бұрын
It's so nice not having to rely on the automatically generated subtitles, which are often inaccurate or missing sections entirely.
@pablokamurasi7232 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is...the dedication is appreciated, I noticed that too
@plutonium872 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I often skip many of these interrogation videos because it's simply to shitty quality to hear everything they're talking about properly.. So huge kudos for the subtitles!
@carnagedna2 жыл бұрын
💯
@yahooarchie830610 ай бұрын
Life is a lot simpler when you are not evil.
@GenX19688 ай бұрын
And on top of that he thinks he’s god gift to women. Dude probably has an IQ of 60.
@1927su7 ай бұрын
I’m not evil & life at times has not always been simple
@ILuvBanannerz6 ай бұрын
@@1927suLife would be way less simple if you were under investigation for murder :D
@thetruthisonlyperspective48726 ай бұрын
Or a drunken moron who refuses to listen to your friends
@leafatlas60985 ай бұрын
Probably, yeah
@iMatchEnergyLikeABoss2 жыл бұрын
He has the audacity to call someone ugly.
@cornvilleconsigliere9662 жыл бұрын
Right? FU dude you are a murderer who will die in jail. I get that he would try to lie but to say less than complementary things about the , beautiful by the way, young woman you raped and murdered is a true testimony to the fact that he's a scumbag. I know why they did it by I hate that the interrogators went with the , 'she was promiscuous', tactic. It's just a sad case.
@uncledude20912 жыл бұрын
Right?
@Mamabananaz692 жыл бұрын
Hava
@natalierichardson91752 жыл бұрын
Yea he thinks he’s Gods gift to women it’s like don’t think so dude
@marzhayez34282 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@oleplanthafer70342 жыл бұрын
So funny to see how the body language of lying also applies to the cop every time he's saying: "I'm not trying to trick you" 😁
@trueCrimeGuruYes2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@iesroo2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@Napolimangaz2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@kathleenoverton32632 жыл бұрын
Except the cop is trying to determine the killer not that he is the actual killer!
@SeanHenrichs2 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenoverton3263 this time maybe
@Lulu2u2 жыл бұрын
I understand that ultimately the actual murderer is at fault. But what kind of people abandon their drunken friend without her phone or belongings or even a way home?
@stephenfowlie7422 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately too many people, I've seen it far too many times and usually it's drunk women being abandoned by their friends more so than it is men. The sad truth is that a drunk guy being abandoned by his friends can usually turn into a funny story about his story of survival but when a drunk woman gets abandoned it can quickly turn into a horror story for them.
@hamtitan56232 жыл бұрын
They tried not their fault Chelsea chose to stay and a monster exploited her choice not her friends fault
@sb66752 жыл бұрын
@@stephenfowlie742 What? Men can get robbed or murdered too
@xlekhano47922 жыл бұрын
Party scene is full of the fakest and shittiest “friends” you’ll ever see I’ve seen it happen so much
@stephenfowlie7422 жыл бұрын
@@sb6675 I don't deny that for one second, I myself have been jumped for no reason in the past and other occasions have had to fight to defend myself and others. The point I was trying to make is that guys can generally survive a night of being drunk and alone in the city due to us being a less appealing target. How many times have you seen a one or two men all over a drunk female in the street, harassing them or trying to get them into a car or taxi? Then compare that to how times you have seen those roles reversed...That's the difference.
@Ancipital_8 ай бұрын
The video editing of this video is much better than any other one I've seen. You should continue this style of editing, it's fantastic.
@Li-um4zc Жыл бұрын
The fact that her friends left her alone at the party with no phone or no way home is beyond me. I could never forgive myself if I was one of her friends who left, this whole case is so sad wow.
@foljs5858 Жыл бұрын
"friends"
@rebeccagarrett7111 Жыл бұрын
She was a stupid woman that wanted to stay and party. Her friends couldn’t get her to leave. You can’t fix stupid. She is not a little child. He is the one they think killed her. But, you can’t fix stupid. Thus when she stumbled on to a killer she was killed. Stop acting like your friends can or should fix stupid.
@rockettcassia Жыл бұрын
You can’t make a person leave… the friend came back to give her her stuff and she was bo where to be found partying.. they asked her several times she refused and was a grown woman. It’s sad how it turned out but it’s not their fault. I know they feel some guilt but they couldn’t get flack for this
@_kokonuts_ Жыл бұрын
They literally tried to take her home, and she refused. They even tried to give her back her stuff.there was only so much that they could do
@adriannefluet5980 Жыл бұрын
I'd never leave my friends without them I'd have stayed
@ratmaman24702 жыл бұрын
Her body was discovered by complete accident. She could've stayed there forever and this guy would be living his life with no consequences. And if this girl was found by accident, what if he killed other girls and left them where no one can find them? He talks about women in such disgraceful way, I'd bet she's not the only one.
@jessicamartinez3613 Жыл бұрын
He had duct tape. I think you're right that she isn't the only one.
@mrFiiSKiiS Жыл бұрын
@@jessicamartinez3613Because nobody uses duct tape for anything but murder.
@Undrconst Жыл бұрын
@@mrFiiSKiiS a guy like him? Unlikely. It’s not far fetched to think he’s done this multiple times.
@melodiexu5625 Жыл бұрын
I think a big reason why he was caught was because other women came forward, one specifically for a really violent rape in the back of his truck. he totally has zero respect for women, and i don't know if he murdered anyone before, but he's definitely hurt them before, and has the capacity for doing it
@southernslipping4225 Жыл бұрын
What’s bad it’s no telling how many people are walking around like him
@vsprdln2 жыл бұрын
The more I watch interviews like this, the more I realize, guilty or innocent, never talk to police without an attorney.
@Dustandfuzz2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the police are not your friend. They aren’t on your side. They won’t help you. No matter how friendly and sympathetic they seem they only want a confession. Tell them nothing, not one thing. I can’t believe how much people talk when interrogated with no lawyer. Must be crazy.
@Dustandfuzz2 жыл бұрын
But gotta hand it to LE in these interrogations. They know just the right buttons to push and just how hard to push them.
@Uncday-day2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this
@sketch_21932 жыл бұрын
why do they need an attorney??
@Nicole-fp4rg2 жыл бұрын
@@sketch_2193 because its very easy to be also tricked into false confessions
@markpatterson27642 ай бұрын
These interrogation tapes are way too addictive,2 hours I’ll never get back but it’s impossible to stop watching
@zcowan Жыл бұрын
As pointed out in the video, when talking about what he would’ve done if he had ‘known’ she was still alive, he slips up and says, “I would’ve let her go.” And that really just says it all.
@TheBiancaCM Жыл бұрын
Right at the end they mention another case hes under investigation for "you took her back to ur gfs trailer, you showered together, she asked you to stop but you didnt stop"
@Blake1720 Жыл бұрын
Yep so glad this trash is behind bars. He can not get let go by Buba.
@7yep4336dfgvvh Жыл бұрын
BBlake17 I'm also weirded out by the women he was hooking up with... what sort of nutjob likes being choked or beaten during sex??
@alysoneaston5539 Жыл бұрын
😮😮😮 wow
@carmeldelaney10868 ай бұрын
The pits.Horrible Person so full of himself.
@andrewtucker7990 Жыл бұрын
"Just by telling you this," "I've lost everything." No, you still have your life. It may be spent behind bars, but you still have a beating heart and breathe in your lungs. Chelsea is the one whom lost everything. Her mother lost a dear child, something that can never be replaced. Your mother can still see you, hear your voice, read your letters. Chelsea's mother will never have any of that, ever again. Sad, very sad.
@omars-qz6rn Жыл бұрын
no offense id rather be dead than in prison for life
@cristiant6566 Жыл бұрын
its in almost every one of these videos that the killers only concern is the inconvience or impact of their actions will have on their own live, never any remorse for the victim or family. thats why i have so little faith in rehabilitation, they are never going to care how their actions impact the world around them, only if they suffer in prison will they get a taste of the receiving end
@wilhelmu Жыл бұрын
@@omars-qz6rn you say that but you're probably lying, to yourself and us. most people don't commit suicide after getting a life sentence
@fartingshartingpig5287 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@robbie192 Жыл бұрын
Very standard perspective bud
@dfc412 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this one. Went to school with this guy and when they caught him he lived about 500 feet from me . Side note: that sketch looked JUST like this other kid from our town. Poor kid was questioned and accused. And the guy who threw the party was accused alot too and he is seriously so nice and didn't deserve it, he was judged based solely on appearance and music ect.
@SgtFuckOff2 жыл бұрын
Has he always thought he was this “ladies man” where he can pull as many girls as he claims? Most guys that act like him usually with hit on everything with a vagina and take whatever they can get to sound like a player. They choose quantity over quality but I doubt he gets much action, the way he talks to women like things he can fuck.
@maddykattt28272 жыл бұрын
he seems like a real pos even outside of being a murderer. i’m glad they put him away.
@dfc412 жыл бұрын
@@maddykattt2827 definitely!
@jamie-r20342 жыл бұрын
@@dfc41 I'm a dude and can easily say, any guy who talks like he's a gift from god to women is trash. I had a buddy who thought he was the shit by sleeping with every girl he could and then would make fun of them afterwards, he would talk about every detail, and would even try to show pictures of them naked to anyone who would look & listen to him. Long story short, he is in prison for assault & rape.
@e_h29282 жыл бұрын
My nephew, his gf & child lived in that same apartment bldg & actually met this creep. He said he was definitely this type of narcissistic character & didnt trust him but got vibes n ig he showed up at his door once wen only his gf was home n after learning wat he did to Chelsea, tripped him out! My nephew hung out with this creep right in his livingroom @his child!!! As i watch some of these, i think of my younger self & just smh cuz i wonder how many times my guardian angel put in some O.T.
@charlesmcclure80005 ай бұрын
I get the guy is guilty but damn when the cops say you don't need an attorney, you absolutely need an attorney
@moyaxoxo59235 ай бұрын
Pretty sure they mean ur screwed regardless
@jasonmurawski58773 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Never talk to the cops without at the bare minimum, a consultation with a lawyer.
@emilymarano1742 жыл бұрын
I love how he asked for a lawyer like 5 times but still kept talking every time, amazing. Glad he kept talking though, man got what he deserved.
@youtubecommenter2527 Жыл бұрын
Yup. The cops can keep asking you questions. It's up to YOU to invoke your 5th amendment and say nothing else until you have an attorney you trust has your criminal defense as their first priority.
@fynntotalwar1672 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubecommenter2527 this is not true, police are required to stop asking questions after suspect asks for an attorney, unless they state they are in fact willing to talk without one.
@bogwitch26 ай бұрын
@@fynntotalwar1672not true, they dont have to stop asking questions until you stop cooperating
@fynntotalwar16726 ай бұрын
@@bogwitch2 cant post links here but just google it, police are required to stop an interrogation once you request a lawyer, unless you waive your rights
@blakeb9964Ай бұрын
@@bogwitch2you're wrong. They have to stop asking. But you have to ask for a lawyer the right way, which is ridiculous. Any mention of a lawyer should halt the interview.
@candyk20282 жыл бұрын
As a female myself, when my friends leave, I leave. Drilled into my brain from first play date as a child. There will always be monsters and they’re amongst us, some of them are hard to identify so one must protect oneself vigilantly.
@yourbiggestfan3952 жыл бұрын
among usඞ
@candyk20282 жыл бұрын
@@yourbiggestfan395 I’m old school….😅
@lizziliz39132 жыл бұрын
Sadly we never expected a serious cold killer to be in our town.. we all (as a town) knew he was weird, but we have girls like Chelsea, who was the sweetest soul in the world, who makes everyone to be good. No matter what. I wish he got the death sentence.. but our town does not do that..
@fmcdomer2 жыл бұрын
So women are at a natural disadvantage?
@candyk20282 жыл бұрын
@@fmcdomer More or less. However, there are men / boys who gets roofied, then get raped or robbed and maybe killed as well, just not as many as women in these sort of crime. You don’t agree?
@JakeDavidson-nt9mg9 ай бұрын
I like the fact that he said he wanted to talk to his mom and girlfriend and tell them man to man hes going to jail 😂😂
@MagesseT117 күн бұрын
I caught that as well 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheOregonChristian Жыл бұрын
How none of these criminals ever immediately say “I want a lawyer” early into these is beyond me.
@shawer12345 Жыл бұрын
We don't get an interesting video on the ones who do.
@TheOregonChristian Жыл бұрын
@@shawer12345 regardless of the video, these people are dumb lol.
@tweezerjam Жыл бұрын
Maybe that makes awful video material?
@kayakazi7765 Жыл бұрын
They think they're smart
@fastabyss Жыл бұрын
@maltheri9833that what gets em everytime. Trying to be slick and get more information out of a detective than they give in return. Wanna know what the police know, let your lawyer find out 😂 Ive watched tons of these and its mindblowing how many wouldve probably walked or gotten a decade instead of life id they just get a public defender theyd be infinitely better off.
@wesparsons5331 Жыл бұрын
If you’re innocent get your lawyer asap, if you’re guilty just talk, you got this bro👍
@PallasAndDove Жыл бұрын
😂
@maceyanna10 ай бұрын
I absolutely read this backwards and was about to cuss you out 😂
@nastaphantasia289510 ай бұрын
😂
@TaniaAlemide8 ай бұрын
i thought if you ask for a lawyer you look more guilty
@Hopesedge8 ай бұрын
@@TaniaAlemide Ultimately you're not proven guilty on what the police think about you, but rather what evidence they have, they can be 100% sure you're the culprit but if there's no evidence there's no way for you to get convicted. If you talk you may be able to make the police think you're not the culprit (potentially turning their attention elsewhere), but anything you've said could be used to build a case against you if they decide you're most likely the culprit, and that's the best case, in the worst case you could (and very likely would) make yourself look more guilty. If you however choose to lawyer up then you may look more guilty, but there's no way for you to accidentally incriminate yourself.
@neverforgetjubjub2 жыл бұрын
If you're out with friends, please don't leave a comrade behind. I know it might be inconvenient if someone is adamant about staying out but it's better than possibly losing that person to predators like this piece of shit.
@_veronica_r2 жыл бұрын
yes, OR the person could be this predator going to sneak away and commit horrid acts!
@locabynature2 жыл бұрын
you're absolutely right. this happens way too much. they're out having a good time and someone wants to leave but someone else wants to stay. If you arrive together then you should leave together or have some kind of plan to ensure the everyone gets home safe.
@babble2leeza2 жыл бұрын
My friend took my car and left me at a club!! I was 22yrs old and didn't go out much. Luckily my best friend was home and went across town to save me at 2a.m after that experience I was always the designated driver.
@hamilcross2 жыл бұрын
the amount of times people left me at clubs and parties in my late teens and early 20s is exactly why I don't go out anymore lmao people can be so fucking selfish it's ridiculous, i'm incredibly lucky that I was never killed honestly.
@-desertpackrat2 жыл бұрын
My friend is still haunted 15 years later because she and a group of friends brough a Dutch, mostly deaf exchange student with them to a rave out in the desert, and the girl got separated because her other friend who said she would stay with her, is a big bad gangsta and was busy drinking and doing drugs, and they left without her because no one could find her, and she was never seen again as far as she knows. She has to live with that knowledge for the rest of her life now.
@Collinormous4 ай бұрын
Here the suspect takes a breath of oxygen - a sign that the suspect is nervous. This is also a behavior seen in psychopaths.
@MrsGines4204 ай бұрын
😂
@adambow31162 жыл бұрын
Whenever a cop says, "I'm not going to lie to you." "I am being straight up with you," it basically means the opposite
@reebster_68992 жыл бұрын
@@That-Ninja Wtf dude 🤣🤣
@blending_in2 жыл бұрын
@@That-Ninja bruh
@watekostile2 жыл бұрын
@@That-Ninja AYO?
@adambow31162 жыл бұрын
@@That-Ninja so much to unpack right here.
@petervansan10542 жыл бұрын
why are people so dumb to talk to police?
@AnomalousBlake2 жыл бұрын
I'm literally terrified of ever being taken into an interrogation, even if I'm completely innocent. I have such crippling social anxiety and I'd be so focused on trying to look and sound innocent that I'd likely end up doing the exact opposite
@Raven1799Games2 жыл бұрын
Get a lawyer and youll be good
@mikevismyelement2 жыл бұрын
Good thing you're a furry and thus will never leave your basement
@anima60352 жыл бұрын
Don't ever speak to the police without a lawyer. You're legally allowed to say "no comment" to every question they ask you in an interrogation. I've done it myself after an unlawful arrest for protesting, I was advised to do so, was then taken to court where the judge dismissed the case (because I did nothing wrong). Dont be scared ❤️
@LucaBunny.2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same! Watching videos like this has taught me to plead the 5th unless I have a lawyer. So if they ever do take you in, you know step one (:
@JamieAllen19772 жыл бұрын
@@anima6035 maybe he's not american; ever think of that? Most humans aren't americans.
@carmine_2 жыл бұрын
This cant be real life….. i never would have thought i would have seen another upload from you guys this soon after recently uploading.. most depressing part is when u guys post a video, i know we wont get 1 for a month but DAMN we all got so lucky… and i get why it takes so long cause the work u guys put into your videos it literally can not be any better and u guys cover it ALL… You guys are the best out there… cant wait to watch this later
@debiweaver32382 жыл бұрын
i could not have written that any better totally agrre with you
@ItIsYouAreNotYour2 жыл бұрын
They probably have a back log of videos.
@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna83342 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think I’m in a simulation because when I do something all of a sudden it’s all over KZbin for example I researched a word and all of a sudden when I watch KZbin people are now saying the word I researched despite nto saying it till I researched it also
@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna83342 жыл бұрын
@@puzzlemagnet1957 u need to go rude
@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna83342 жыл бұрын
@Ichigo what’s gang stalking
@MsNanite19 ай бұрын
I appreciate the way the narrator explains what the detectives are building up towards. It's similar to when I've read mystery books.
@moldgrim1 Жыл бұрын
He was worried about "10, 20, 30 years", but got life without parole. That had to hurt. 😂
@jimmyohara2601 Жыл бұрын
A LOT 🤪😯
@MaliohammadDesigns Жыл бұрын
if he shut up and used a lawyer early on I am sure he would have gotten something along those lines
@neekieeee Жыл бұрын
Sadly not as much as Chelsea and her family
@cboom3205 Жыл бұрын
So the cops ARE lying when they say that it will make him look better to th jury. Jury doesn't REALLY care if you confessed, at least not in the sense of reducing sentencing for it
@DistantRelatives47 Жыл бұрын
@cboom3205 yeah, those are detectives - beyond collective evidence they don't have influence in court proceedings. Separate branches of government and all.
@deedranicolehooks2 жыл бұрын
My dad was a detective. He passed a few years ago, but he would have found this channel really interesting! I miss him so much. ♡
@tplummer2172 жыл бұрын
I miss mine too man. Hang in there. Takes time.
@_ElisDTrailz2 жыл бұрын
My condolences
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great dad. 💜
@ginanovo62852 жыл бұрын
You are lucky to have had a good dad:)
@perseus94282 жыл бұрын
May he Rest In Peace.
@foreseer45522 жыл бұрын
How this channel changed over the last year is unbelievable. Keep up the great work guys you are awesome!
@kaylacrouse7094 Жыл бұрын
Okay I’ve seen repeat videos over the years but you’re always my fave because I absolutely love the voice
@ashtondillard69065 ай бұрын
For me I love how they break down the tactics and skills police use to get information. So fascinating.
@Coolguy10o02 жыл бұрын
Never ever leave your friends behind especially if they’re drunk
@Dani-ICU-RN2 жыл бұрын
Cover ur drinks ppl.
@perseus94282 жыл бұрын
Never ever get drunk .
@mba15202 жыл бұрын
@@perseus9428 300 iq
@mariacullati23712 жыл бұрын
Don't count on anyone else to take care of you.
@Megan-rr6qg2 жыл бұрын
100 times yes! Never leave friends behind male or female surround yourself with people who will do the same for you!
@jvon38852 жыл бұрын
I was falsely accused of murder at 16. I can remember the interrogation like it was yesterday. They were using all these techniques but they were also saying that I did it. It was the scariest moment in my life. I thought I was going down for something I didn't do. This kids death was so brutal and morbid that I still have night terrors regarding it.
@sparks99412 жыл бұрын
Get your footage on here everyone wants an innocent interrogation
@jvon38852 жыл бұрын
@@sparks9941 I'll try. I don't know if they save them this long. I'm 43 now. Actually you think they would because the case is still cold.
@tanyagiacchina4922 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you went through that. How traumatizing.
@jordanmutebi2 жыл бұрын
how did people find out about it? did the authorities publicize it or something? regardless, that’s wrong on so many levels. the fact that you were only 16 makes matters worse..really bothers me when people can’t accept someone’s innocence, (when they’ve 100% been ruled out as a suspect/the perpetrator & w/ proof on hand) really hope you’re doing okay. i can’t imagine that level of trauma. be well man!
@jvon38852 жыл бұрын
@@jordanmutebi I'll try to find the podcast where I give all the details and we try and solve the case. I believe there are 4 hour long podcasts that I was involved in to try and clear up all theories and what not.
@anon72192 жыл бұрын
"What about ME? You think she's had it bad this past year and a half? I had to deal with the weight of killing her!" Wow. Just wow.
@trueCrimeGuruYes2 жыл бұрын
And the policemen said "she dead" I think he actually meant her mother, when he said that, but that's just as horrible.
@pinetinav90832 жыл бұрын
He really doesn't care about other people
@startinajackson6062 жыл бұрын
Exactly he is a monster
@ChadMcclain-qj8zn Жыл бұрын
"Just get my jumpsuit and get me to a bunk you can talk to my attorney." I've watched a lot of interrogations and have really grown to admire the detectives saavy in what they do.
@nicc83022 жыл бұрын
1:20:28 "if that was my daughter" are you kidding me? men like him do not view women as independent human beings unless part of them is attached to them or they "own" them in a way, i.e. daughter or wife. what a pathetic and awful person. rest in peace, Chelsea.
@cosmicmuffin3222 жыл бұрын
Exactly right
@elleharrop15262 жыл бұрын
Well we aren’t even women! Just ‘hot chicks’, ‘ugly chicks’, ‘fat chicks’ or his ‘baby mama’. He’s so disgusting 🤮, and clearly has no respect for women. It’s like he sees women as his playthings, and once he’s bored of them he just discards and moves on to the next one 🥴
@PoetofHateSpeech2 жыл бұрын
Well they aren't lol
@unpopularopinion2982 жыл бұрын
@@___meph___4547 💀
@sdraulitolito442 жыл бұрын
Son and husband! How dare we have these labels! 🤡
@Bbqbeanz2 жыл бұрын
I know it’s not a laughing matter but I find it funny how the suspect actually changes his story so unbelievably through the interview from not seeing her and being sober to being wasted and having sex with her and they think that people will believe the story
@bradlasalle28882 жыл бұрын
To be fair, this happens occasionally in innocent interrogation subjects, too. Not knowing whether something you think is truly insignificant could be seen by the police as incriminating and end up putting you away for decades, fear alone could get you to cut corners in your story only to scramble when it's seen through or when your own anxiety makes you crack
@ophiolatreia932 жыл бұрын
@@bradlasalle2888 cite a case colombo
@bradlasalle28882 жыл бұрын
@@ophiolatreia93 I'd have to go through the innocent confessions I know to see specifically when/if they do in that particular one. Instead, google this article on it by the Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law: "False Confessions: Causes, Consequences, and Implications". It's pretty long but you can skip around to parts on innocent subjects recanting their alibis, and sometimes changing their story completely due to the stress of being interrogated and psychologically manipulated during said interrogation.
@Phoenix-mh5eo2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Those cops must've had at least a little fun batting this guy around and getting him to change his story DRASTICALLY. I lost it when he's like "oh wait no, it wasn't my baby mamas car, it was my roommates!"
@ashersoden5300 Жыл бұрын
he said about 400 times “i won’t lie” then proceeded to lie again and again
@iSillie Жыл бұрын
Ive been binge watching these (y’all are amazing) - but damn, this is the first one to truly enrage me. Mainly at the end, because this man child literally said “my life is ruined too” when asked what to say to a grieving family. People like this guy are the reason I’ve lost so much faith in our species. Ugh. I’m so, so sorry Chelsea. You deserved so much better.
@Brand64730 Жыл бұрын
You know, I read this comment and I was with you. Then I started to think about and really, this one guy isn't the rule, he and people like him are the exception. It's the detectives, friends, family and strangers who came out to find her and get her justice who are the examples of humanity I choose to use. Though this guy is the focus of the video, he's not the most important person in the story. Don't let his ilk poison your faith in the good people out there just because there are some bad.
@infinidominion Жыл бұрын
@@Brand64730 never underestimate the shitty ones
@fluffylittlebear Жыл бұрын
@@Brand64730 Exactly. If these people weren't the rare exception to the rule, we wouldn't be here watching this video. It's entertaining _because_ these people aren't normal and we're getting a glimpse into their minds. Most people are generally good and that's just a statistical fact.
@gravesidepoet5405 Жыл бұрын
If society ever falls most of you will probably turn into raiders.
@fluffylittlebear Жыл бұрын
@@gravesidepoet5405 Raiders, rapers, same difference.
@TheDineroGang Жыл бұрын
The education on this channel is unmatched 💯💯💯💯
@somebody6702 жыл бұрын
I lived close to this incident. I remember her poor mom on TV pleading for information. I'm so glad they finally got the murderer.
@WoodlandMysticz2 жыл бұрын
my mom lived in frenchtown villas 3 trailers down from where he was picked up on the same street. crazy stuff
@rodgazinya2 жыл бұрын
Now if they'd just end his worthless life instead letting us taxpayers foot the bill while he gets to live.
@srirachahero4679 Жыл бұрын
When you’re being interrogated for a crime while in prison stripes for a totally different crime, you know you haven’t made the best choices in life… 😐
@emeraldblue5291 Жыл бұрын
He was in jail for not paying child support. Ohio & Michigan will arrest/jail you for non payment. Ohio will pay it to the custodial parent so the kids don't do without & then bill the other parent for it. Like a tax lien haunting you forever. I had an uncle with kids in their 30s & he still owed the state when he died at 60.
@roachconsumer2773 Жыл бұрын
@@emeraldblue5291 It's definitely ridiculous that they keep it going that long, but I think it's good that they genuinely hold people accountable.
@SoyAntonioGaming Жыл бұрын
u shud have helped ur uncle and paid the bill off @@emeraldblue5291
@Sammypbeats Жыл бұрын
@@emeraldblue5291Most states arrest you for being behind on child support, it’s pretty sad.
@123451248ify Жыл бұрын
@@Sammypbeats Kids not being able to eat is even more sad.
@iainbanks74152 жыл бұрын
I love how the cops say "we're telling you the truth etc" and the lying criminal believes them.
@phoenixmerridian91192 жыл бұрын
right? As soon as the one guy said "we've been honest with you but have you been honest with us?" I was like "Hah, I can't believe that really works"
@AstralBelt2 жыл бұрын
@@phoenixmerridian9119 criminal psychology really is something else
@88Doug2 жыл бұрын
They are like, "How did your DNA get on her".. He's like, "I don't know she went to any hotel in my hometown"..
@cpfs9362 жыл бұрын
This is probably the first video of this kind that I've seen where the cops actually WERE telling the truth about what they had. Usually they bluff a lot more, these guys cut to the chase pretty quickly:"Hey, we've got your DNA, I'll show you the results."
@christar95272 жыл бұрын
The cop doing most of the talking saying“I’m not trying to trick you “ repeatedly when he was constantly trying to trick him.
@sushikid2957 ай бұрын
After binging these videos for the past week Suspect: breaths Narrator: this may not always be, but can be a sign of guilt
@Hatecrewdethrol2 жыл бұрын
It really is baffling to me how many guilty people will just agree to talk to police without a lawyer. I've always been told that even if you are 100% innocent you should never talk to police without a lawyer. But I guess a lot of the criminals featured in this aren't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
@ResinateByChanel2 жыл бұрын
When you are guilty you know that asking for a lawyer will make you look more guilty so they try to see as unsuspicious as possible!
@Countcho2 жыл бұрын
@@ResinateByChanel no it doesnt. They think it does because they’re not very smart and are easily manipulated by the police
@Revacholiere2 жыл бұрын
@@ResinateByChanel Asking for a lawyer doesn't make you look guilty, everyone should ask for a lawyer. It's also not admissable in court to use "he asked for a lawyer" as evidence.
@nickh9442 жыл бұрын
This guy seems easily manipulated. Three times he mentions a lawyer and each time he is talked out of it. While I find that police work rather unethical, it's probably still within the law, and he should have known better having been arrested before.
@74associates2 жыл бұрын
@@nickh944 the right is to remain silent.
@paulinabova1572 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was interrogated for a possible attempted murder love triangle, I was a blithering mess !!! And the theories they came up with were WILD!!!! Our cousin was robbed and stabbed , almost to death, my husband and I saved him. He died 6 times !! Once in my arms . He went into a coma , thank God he woke up and told them the truth . Scariest thing ever !
@winsome6705 Жыл бұрын
Geesh thank god what an awful experience glad ur cousin survived
@anotherguy9402 Жыл бұрын
They just keep trying to connect dots that don't exist it's how innocent people get convicted. I'm pro police but they have too much authority and not enough repercussions for breaking the law they are supposed to uphold. The brotherhood mentality is basically a mental illness within the police force too. They need redefined structure for accurate outcomes.
@fluffylittlebear Жыл бұрын
I bet you aren't as quick to judge people as you were before that experience though. So at least you learned something. We grow with every experience.
@tahseenkhan3629 Жыл бұрын
@@fluffylittlebear what the fuck kind of takeaway is this? They went through a horrible situation and all you can think to say is "oh but youre probably less shallow now at least!"?
@brianoh8192 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, those theories have been getting worse every episode!
@breakingaustin Жыл бұрын
One bit stood out for me.. When he was in his second interview and mentioned running from the cops.. He said he stopped after fifty feet.. The detective asks him if he realized the cops were faster.. He immediately says 'No, it wasn't that.. I was outrunning the cops, I was gonna get away and just decided to stop..' Even in this little tiny non eventful story, he couldn't imagine someone else thinking he wasn't the hero of the story.. he couldn't bear someone he doesn't know and will never see again thinking he couldn't outrun another man.. Narcissism at it's absolute worst.
@Ghost_of_a_Flea Жыл бұрын
yeah its sinilar to how, when discussing carrying her body, he says ‘im not that big of a beast.’ In one of his pics he is wearing a shirt that says ‘beast’ on it. Clearly he has a completely warped perception of himself and it’s noticeable in seemingly innocuous comments like that.
@KaylaCarlileArt Жыл бұрын
I noticed this too.
@YouSuk-lz6vi9 ай бұрын
Imas much as I think there’s some truth to your comment, I’d like to point out that on the contrary, when others say something false about you, you usually correct them. So in an event of telling a story and the other person doesn’t understand the concept of the story, they will correct that person. Just food for thought.
@SonOfUnagi Жыл бұрын
I cross my ankles when I sit too… must be a sign of my guilt and nervousness 😂
@joseandrada2646 ай бұрын
Police it's on their way...
@Acranify2 ай бұрын
i stutter, guess i am nervous and is trying to give myself time to figure out the story i want to say
@julieclayton-west624 Жыл бұрын
He’s so repulsive. Happily beats to death a vulnerable victim and god knows what other victims he has but is “literally like” having a panic attack and needs water. Such a weak pathetic man. Just throw away the key.
@stacyr40702 жыл бұрын
Always surprises me when suspects don't insist on getting an attorney. Especially when they know they are guilty. Must be the narcissism, thinking they can outwit the interrogator.
@JamieAllen19772 жыл бұрын
In this case; it twas curiosity that killed the narcissist - he wanted to know what they had on him.
@velvetpixiecake53102 жыл бұрын
”Especially when they know that they're guilty?” 😂 They know that no attorney will go up to bat for their made up BS, why else wouldn't they consult an attorney? LOL 🤔😂🤷♀️ Good point though, that's 1 good dead give away.
@BananaMike7802 жыл бұрын
@@velvetpixiecake5310 I dunno how to tell you this, man, but attorneys defend clearly guilty people all the time.
@logicss28932 жыл бұрын
@@velvetpixiecake5310 goofy ahh emojis
@madezra642 жыл бұрын
@@velvetpixiecake5310 Oh there's many that would LOVE to defend a scumbag like this. It's a challenge. It's a way to show how good they are to themselves and others. Imagine they get a clearly guilty defendant to walk free. That is a HUGE advertisement! Now they can show future clients that they are good and worth the money they charge. Trust me, there's a lot of sick attorneys out there that only care about winning even if it means helping a killer get off. To be clear though there's also many attorneys who still do the right thing and will only defend them to the extent that their rights are respected.
@elsie37242 жыл бұрын
This entire interrogation: “I was tipsy but I don’t get drunk.” “I was drunk” “No no I wasn’t fked up! I remember!” “I don’t know i was fked up I was so drunk!” “I wasn’t fked though!” “I was so drunk I’m not sure” “I was fine enough to drive I obviously got home safely” Oh my god. If he wasn’t such a POS it would be funny. Also wow, his pity party about how it hasn’t just been “about her” but how he’s had a tough year and a half blah blah… absolutely revolting.
@Stardrix162 жыл бұрын
Yeah i hope this subhuman remains in jail for the rest of his life.
@pauldavidhaynes82432 жыл бұрын
I dont get drunk i think I heard him say at the beginning. 99% of what came out of his mouth was BS.... A boy in a man's body.
@Gemidori5 ай бұрын
Detectives pressure questions on him about her being in the car "No. No. No. No. No. No."
@keekayyktv5 ай бұрын
This is what Netflix should model their Crime Docs off of. Great work. No BS Hollywood here! Good job EWU 🎉
@justagirllookingup2 жыл бұрын
Ive watched plenty of these and one thing all these people seem to have in common is no empathy for their victim, only that they destroyed their own life. Very sad.
@thelazer99922 жыл бұрын
There was one who was sorry for the victim, the chef guy i cant remember it too well
@MileMarker4922 жыл бұрын
If they cared about the victim they wouldnt have done it so that makes perfect sense.
@thelazer99922 жыл бұрын
@@MileMarker492 they cared enough to actually mourn their death. Of course shouldn't have been gotten that far.
@evanm67392 жыл бұрын
If anyone ever cared for the person they were going to kill they wouldn’t kill them…..
@johanneabelsen16442 жыл бұрын
I hope, that prison justice finds him...
@HeavymetalHylian2 жыл бұрын
"I'm going to have a panic attack and I think I might cry. May I please have a cigarette and some water?" What about Chelsea? You didn't care that she was in horrific distress and dying! The audacity of these monsters.
@user893892 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I had to roll my eyes when I heard that. Like Oh no, you're having a panic attack because you're being questioned about that girl that you took advantage of, and then you brutally murdered her (which most likely caused her immense suffering and fear before she finally stopped feeling anything), hid her body and left her to decompose, all the while her loved ones were going through terrible pain not knowing where she is and what happened to her?! Even though you could've just walked away without hurting her?! Poor you! I feel soooo sorry for you experiencing anxiety! That guy is a waste of space and oxygen.
@UniCornisss2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but, they are in their *
@madelinemcmillan40202 жыл бұрын
fucking drama queen xD
@trilexfix2 жыл бұрын
The part when he said "which girl?" towards the end really shows you the kind of human being he really is.
@tandiparent19062 жыл бұрын
It also makes me wonder if he's ever killed any other girls/women 🥺
@trilexfix2 жыл бұрын
@@tandiparent1906 I really hope not but I’m glad he’s behind bars where he can get a taste of being treated harshly.
@coffeechatsandwalks39762 жыл бұрын
And if he wasn't caught, there would have been more. Total predator with no conscience
@sonyawhaley7392 жыл бұрын
He seems to me like he may be a serial rapist if not in the process of becoming a serial murderer if he’s already killed another girl before being locked up well he may just get raped in jail himself and then he can worry about himself some more🙄
@peggypasson87942 жыл бұрын
Makes ya wonder ? How many
@AndreaSmock-t7l11 ай бұрын
I love this channel and was excited (for lack of a better word) to see this case from my home town! My husband is related to the detective on the case.
@sabiyadusk73572 жыл бұрын
As a person with hearing loss, these subtitles are my saving grace! I'd be pretty lost without them, so thank you for all the effort that goes into them, it doesn't go unnoticed
@katherinemeyer62782 жыл бұрын
very cool that you can hear thus stuff you're into.
@glee210122 жыл бұрын
Always ask for a lawyer. Imagine being the wrong person in custody, dealing with these detectives grilling you.
@tandiparent19062 жыл бұрын
True; but, this is what happens when they think they're the smartest person in the room.
@idkfk13052 жыл бұрын
@Socucius Ergalla which is a bit right but still better than doing without an attorney
@Castornator2 жыл бұрын
The trick is to do both
@angrycat35252 жыл бұрын
For further reading, get a copy of "You Have The Right To Remain Innocent" by James Duane. It's a fast and easy read, as well as a very informative one. In the meantime, never date an investigator, I guess. Imagine coming back from the store WITHOUT the half gallon of milk you originally went there for. heh heh ... Having said all this (in a feeble attempt at humor), yeah, this POS is why we have investigators!
@glee210122 жыл бұрын
@@angrycat3525 I already have it, and watched his video
@MattCarvin2 жыл бұрын
This is it, the formula. This narrator, this style, and you guys will own all of True Crime KZbin unquestioned. You have attained JCS level greatness here
@ravegames100310 ай бұрын
You guys are awesome at what you do, every afterschool I come home to watch your content, so far the qualified team doing the research and the narrator for these videos are incredible. Thanks for sharing!
@Scourge2872 жыл бұрын
I've seen this case on several channels but the way you broke it down and showed the interrogation was absolutely awesome.
@OofAvocado2 жыл бұрын
It’s such a good thing that man was building a house on that land and discovered her, otherwise they probably never would have found her. She was a beautiful soul, may she Rest In Peace 🧡
@The-lefthandeddoc2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful soul my as$
@CallForGrandPappy2 жыл бұрын
Super lucky how the guy didn’t get freaked out and move or stop his project, him staying with the digging helped so much.
@gertrude1372 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with this comment section
@TaLaPredator2 жыл бұрын
What happened is horrible to her and her family and no offense but I doubt you know her enough to call her beautiful soul just because she passed. No need to pretend to be nice, sympathy is enough.
@codybarry82042 жыл бұрын
@Greg Peterson less and less in these parts. City isn't where people get away with stuff. Think this guy wanted to get caught?
@jennacarroll92002 жыл бұрын
He is only concerned about his uncomfortability and how he's feeling. He is a monster. Rest In Peace Chelsea ❤️ no one deserves to be left like garbage.
@tommybrown95342 жыл бұрын
I agree.. he's a pos..RIP Chelsea
@ursosexmachina2 жыл бұрын
No, he is human, just like you and me. That is the truly frightening thing.
@marz_mitzi2 жыл бұрын
@@ursosexmachina He sure doesn't act human, but do defend him and pretend he's human, surely will bring her back
@tommybrown95342 жыл бұрын
@@marz_mitzi I'm pretty sure he's not defending him
@wkjeom2 жыл бұрын
@@marz_mitzi Dean is saying that all of us are capable of monstrous acts if we don't have morals, or rules (really God's rules) we just won't break. An example, even if you're married, you never choke anyone. You never hit a child except on the behind (only judiciously for training). If you come across someone who is masochistic, run away from them. If he hadn't choked her in the first place, she'd be OK. If he hadn't kidnapped her in the first place, she'd be OK. If he loved his neighbor like he loved himself. Yep, he's a narcissist, a psychopath, sadist, etc.
@jorgeegrojjorge8 ай бұрын
This channel is better than netflix!
@justforever965 ай бұрын
Herpes is better than Netflix.
@thewhitelodgery4 ай бұрын
@@justforever96 at least you can cancel Netflix.
@the_key_x2 жыл бұрын
How that detective held it together in those last moments when Daniel was being whiny and spouting “poor me” is utterly amazing. I could never.
@youtopea2 жыл бұрын
I lost it when the detective brought up the other possible rape case and Daniel went "which one?" Like tf?!
@the_key_x2 жыл бұрын
@@youtopea utterly vile, this guy was a predator.
@majesty3082 жыл бұрын
@@youtopea He's beyond disgusting for saying that 💀
@KomradeCPU Жыл бұрын
@@majesty308 lmao that was hilarious tbh dude a monster while these women seem to appreciate playing russian roulette, what a combination
@ApocDevTeam Жыл бұрын
the detectives know that any mistake can result in the interrogation becoming inadmissible in court. there are very strict laws that they must abide by. precisely by not acting out on their feelings the cops ensure that this interrogation will pass as valid evidence in court, which in turn will result in the killer staying behind bars for the rest of his life.
@SuperZippyzippy2 жыл бұрын
Ill never understand how someone can kill someone so nonchalantly and have zero empathy for someone
@MarlonBrando4142 жыл бұрын
And when the only time they show actual emotion its usually for themselves not for what they actually have done, this guy was perfectly fine with going on with his life after what he did, just shows the kind of person he is
@Pugetwitch2 жыл бұрын
@Mister Crisket no, it's socio/psychopathy
@hillaryh.51972 жыл бұрын
Well…a psychopath can. So try to understand.
@fkcoolers26692 жыл бұрын
@Mister Crisket Nah. Good try, though.
@Aufbleiben2 жыл бұрын
That's because you aren't mentally ill
@Matt92Machine2 жыл бұрын
First off, this guy is a monster. Second off, this video is a good example of why you never, ever, talk to a cop in an interrogation, even if you are innocent. They can lie and say whatever they like to manipulate you, and the way he got him to get away from talking to a lawyer multiple times was masterful interrogation skills.
@grandduchessnikki2 жыл бұрын
@Cristo Alba yeah, cops are allowed to lie, but THAT particular lie … I really feel like that’s grounds for an appeal to throw out the rest of the confession from that point on … telling someone they can’t have a lawyer at that moment, when untrue, definitely I feel like on appeal that could and should be a major sticking point. My issue is that if someone is innocent, and they do this, but feed them stuff after to get them to say things, basically putting words in their mouths … that’s how innocent people end up in prison. Not saying this guy is innocent, but this happens to actual innocent people because the police are convinced they have the right guy - that’s not for them to decide, it’s for the court - he blatantly asked for a lawyer at that point. They should have stopped and called one in, not lied and said they couldn’t get one.
@odalisalvarez89032 жыл бұрын
I agree
@davidtatum86822 жыл бұрын
@@odalisalvarez8903 yea me too. I think you'd definitely have a decent argument. Probably wouldn't work but worth a shot id say.
@heather23renae2 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of these videos I’m absolutely amazed that none of them ask for a lawyer and when they do they eventually get manipulated back in to talking. Obviously in the situation of guilty people for serious, violent crimes, I’m glad on the one hand. But everyone else… it’s depressing
@odalisalvarez89032 жыл бұрын
@@heather23renae I couldn't agree with you more..
@orianultimer20 күн бұрын
this channel puts out such high quality content
@spamm01452 жыл бұрын
Hearing the words 'life without parole' really warmed my heart, I hope he hates every single day in jail.
@Illlium2 жыл бұрын
I was kinda surprised he got first degree, but I get it - he clearly didn't really care if that girl was dead or alive and these interrogations didn't change that, it's better for society to keep that guy in the slammer. I bet prosecution played up those facial fractures as the dude literally smashing her head against the vehicle or something, that's actually a thing I kind of understood - you take the biggest log first to cover up the body, line it up between the legs and tip over after which it falls straight on the face. I bet he thought to himself "nice", but his celebration was cut short by her deathrattle. Horrible man, 10/10 sentencing.
@penwyd2 жыл бұрын
i wish any act or degree of a charge for pedophiles should be 50-100 years with parole after 55😢
@Illlium2 жыл бұрын
@@penwyd Was that girl underage? I don't recall hearing a number.
@Seraphyl3332 жыл бұрын
@@Illlium she was 21 I believe?
@Illlium2 жыл бұрын
@@Seraphyl333 I don't feel like it should matter all that much, but I guess it all depends what's he gonna have in his walking papers. A rep might look at that and think "21? Nice. Let me hear it Joey".
@alexandergreenfield912 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the way he had to stop himself from saying " I've had to live with this my whole....life" and how he reacted when they said they knew about another girl..... and how relieved he was when he realised it wasn't who he had in mind. Imo he'd seriously attacked at least one other girl and quite possibly murdered her. I'd have a very close look into if there had been any missing younger woman in that area within 5 years of that attack, especially with any connection to him. And if the body was found with ligature or strangulation marks and or signs of sexual interference or rape. I'm glad he's now off the streets and apparently for good.
@luvmenow332 жыл бұрын
It'd be really great if someone could time stamp that
@thepurpledusk33812 жыл бұрын
@@luvmenow33 1:38:00 ish onwards. The 'other girl' is about a minute later.
@1houndgal2 жыл бұрын
There are no doubt more of his victims out there alive or doubt. He is a psychopath.
@chefkenburnem2112 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they have. I'm sure they charged him with a scroll of charges even involving other victims but they only have so much time for just that interrogation.
@24Roxyx2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I reckon he'd definitely have killed again if he got away with it and could have become a seriel killer.
@tranquilrabies2 жыл бұрын
This guy is terrifyingly excellent at keeping up his "cool, chill, fun guy" facade. It's really scary how effortlessly he hides his simmering inner rage. How the hell are we supposed to see this type coming?
@ruthcain29372 жыл бұрын
If you're a woman, a very good way to suss out a violent narcissist is to get them talking about their exes or just women in general. They will generally have either a long list of sob stories of all the girls who let them down or a hitlist of 'bitches' who have wronged them.
@darklurkerirl61012 жыл бұрын
Stay in friends group always at late . Never intoxicate yourself outside to the point you could make terrible decisions. Other than these nothing sadly :(
@Gooby54002 жыл бұрын
He’s a narcissist, narcissists do anything that involves personal gain, they are attention lovers, and they will ruin anyone who gets involved with them
@OneEyedJack19702 жыл бұрын
It's safer to just not trust anybody.
@heartlocket912 жыл бұрын
Stay with your friend group. Know your limits with alcohol especially when outside in cold weather.. ( makes you intoxicated faster) Have a buddy system in place to get home safe. Unfortunately you can just be unlucky..😔 Looking at him you wouldn’t think he was a monster..
@ldfjlas7 ай бұрын
the science of studying how someone's body movements betray what they are actually thinking is so fascinating. lots of smart people have obviously spent many years interrogating bad guys to learn how to apply stuff like this.
@justforever965 ай бұрын
I agree. The guy puts a huge amount of effort into adding that value to the channel and he mostly just gets a bunch of comments from people who seem to think it's a bunch of silliness. They do it because it works, better than doing nothing.
@ethandoingstuff14332 жыл бұрын
When he said "I would've let her go" it made my hairs stand on end. That one phrase added a whole new dimension to the crime. Was Chelsea actively trying to escape from the car? Makes me want to go check my doors are locked when I'm reminded of people like this.
@trueCrimeGuruYes2 жыл бұрын
My guess I feel almost certain that he offered Chelsea a ride home and then demanded sex, and then got mean and angry at her refusals. That's why he said "let her go" he wouldn't let her out of the car. And then his comments about CeCe who was accusing him of rape....he's claiming she's mad because he ditched her after sex, when it really seems like a date rape scenario, where she went out with him, and didn't want to do it on the first date which......that kind of scenario has probably gone through the roof with dating aps. 🤢And then there's the third accuser Charlie whom he says "I know she was saying some shit. ie...another date rape." 🤮 I think with Chelsea he may have decided with her he couldn't say "Oh we went on a date she's just mad I pumped and dumped" like he was suggesting about Charlie and CeCe whom he thought proof of their agreeing to go out with him on their phones would be proof it wasn't rape (because he's a rapist dumbass). He thought he could do that with both Charlie and CeCe but with Chelsea he just offered her a ride home and he violently ripped her costume, and there would be nothing on her phone saying she liked him etc... so he killed her thinking he could cover her rape up and no one would be able to connect the dots. Duh.
@bodhimom12 жыл бұрын
and don't get drunk, have sex with a stranger, then get into his car!
@user893892 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It made me think that he forced himself upon her, and she was trying to escape. Maybe she managed to escape, but being so drunk she didn't get far enough... And so he killed her. It also makes me think that this wasn't the first time. The shower story seemed to point to that too. I think he forced himself upon a lot of women, it's just that the others managed to get out alive, or maybe there are some who didn't, but they haven't been found yet... It's really creepy to think that people like him walk among us. You could be interacting with one, they could be planning to do something horrible to you as they smile in your face, and you have no idea...