Exploring the Story of Bloodborne (Lore) • With SinclairLore and Richard Pillbeam

[@SinclairLore]

Thank you for having us on!

[@AesirAesthetics]

Any Time!

[@SinclairLore]

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[@MisterMusicMan92]

Correction for around the 1:29:50 mark, Tainted Love was covered by Soft Cell in 1981 but was originally released by Gloria Jones in 1965. Both versions are about Bloodborne, unlike Marilyn Manson's version which is about Raid Shadow Legends

[@EdenHellCipher]

Thank you for typing this so I don't have to. 💜

[@sophiepilbeam7647]

I love Richard and hope nothing ever changes.

[@SinclairLore]

@@XxOakxX Same!

[@redtukeguy4263]

Either way, I'm just happy to hear (mostly) intelligent discussions about games I enjoy ;)

[@sarahcleary7332]

Sophie you kick ass!!!!!

[@holdnitdown]

I, for one, never liked Richard and am glad he's gone. Sophie's cool.

[@Truestoned0]

I miss Richard as well but Sophie's been doing a great job in his place

[@AesirAesthetics]

Audio is a bit wonky in places, hope it's still acceptable. (also, sorry about the font at the end, you'll see it) Show SinclairLore some love!

[@aggese]

I have not noticed any problems with the audio but pleaset try to keep the backgroud at about the sme quality as the charaters and avoid to have it change quality. I will just turn if the screen and listen as my eye's are starting to get strained from it

[@AssailantLF]

Aesir (apparently) didn't cut anything Sin said lmao. This really was like another episode of The Snack Covenant, but it was nice to get a general overview of the whole thing and the themes and such

[@AesirAesthetics]

I cut like 30 minutes from the chat. Mostly Sin talking about Reborn.

[@SinclairLore]

@@AesirAesthetics How dare you cut reborn?!

[@AesirAesthetics]

@@SinclairLore 😨

[@SinclairLore]

@@AesirAesthetics sleep with one eye open, Aesir

[@AesirAesthetics]

@@SinclairLore O_O

[@MadDannyWest]

So happy that you got Sin and Richard Pillbeam on, nobody has delved deeper into this game than they have, everyone who makes videos on bloodborne lore always fall short of these guys

[@AesirAesthetics]

yup

[@darkslayer1161]

I would argue redrave.

[@MadDannyWest]

@@darkslayer1161 redgrave himself wouldnt even argue that, he always makes a point to point out how flawed The Paleblood Hunt is

[@darkslayer1161]

@@MadDannyWest true, however he set the basis for all this. Alot of theories has sprung from his work. Influenced argueably, every facet of bloodborne.

[@MadDannyWest]

@@darkslayer1161 have to agree.

[@egoborder3203]

39:59 lol Richie nails DS3: "walking through a church simulator"

[@lastimosaz]

There goes my Sunday.

[@AesirAesthetics]

:)

[@autumnalvoid9646]

I'm watching a lot of Soulsborne-related stuff, and this is enjoyably refreshing. It's great to go over the basics again, comparing impressions and different approaches of interpretation. Especially with these two guests and their very special way to approach things. (And it's always a joy to hear a new version of the "Paleblood-rant")

[@AesirAesthetics]

lol at the Paleblood rant.

[@The8BitGamer22]

Was not expecting this. Thanks man, can't wait to watch.

[@AesirAesthetics]

Enjoy

[@jamiel8552]

Just want to correct what was said at 1:34:39. The Creation of Man was painted on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel by Michelangelo, not Da Vinci. In any case, the discussion in this video was fascinating - thank you for putting this together.

[@ranchmantubularspacesausag5709]

The video had no substance because of their lack of knowledge on this subject. I'm astounded as to how they didn't know this basic fact. Thanks for making it watchable

[@marcelcummings7418]

My girlfriend has been staying round this week and I watched the first Bloodborne video and she got so sick of it, and then THIS ONE SHOWS UP HAHAHAHA

[@AesirAesthetics]

I am your girlfriend now. lol

[@Kormeister]

@@AesirAesthetics this is now canon

[@hmmokay.4807]

Thank you, this is an excellent companion to the 7 hour commentary

[@AesirAesthetics]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@dezopenguin9649]

Okay, then from now on, every time somebody asks a general lore question about Bloodborne's story or setting, I'm going to just point them at this video, because honestly, this is the best summary I've heard yet that goes from pre-Pthumeru through the end of the game and hits virtually every story note. And if they want to get into the fine details, that's why Sin and Richie have over 1,500 videos! Though I have to disagree strongly with one assertion in this video: werewolf lawyer erotica from "Edgar, Choir Intelligencer" was far funnier than psychomatic scurvy; it had me rolling off the couch laughing and turned my wife from someone who put on headphones when I played the channel into a fan.

[@AesirAesthetics]

lol at werewold lawyer erotica

[@riceninja051]

Hello Aesir Aesthetics, I just want to take the time to say how well crafted your analysis videos are and that I hope to see you continue doing them in the future. I am thoroughly impressed with all this unfiltered information that you managed to squeeze out of all of these games; it is very enlightening to know the depth to which these pieces of art can express, whether philosophically, thematically, and what not. One game series that has been a part of my heart and I consider my favorite game of all time is NieR. Both NieR Automata and NieR Replicant have heart wrenching depths that made me tear up in a way that no other games have not. I hope this would be a game series that you would do analysis for on the future! Nevertheless, thank you so much. God bless!

[@AesirAesthetics]

Hi, sorry for the late reply. I'm going to do a video on Drakengard soon-ish and who knows, it might lead up to a Nier discussion.

[@River_StGrey]

JSF, Sin and Aesir! So hyped! Glad the collaboration with the community extended beyond the analysis video.

[@MrOrdinaryundone]

The way I view the timeline for the history of the Hunters and the Fishing Hamlet: First you have "The Old Hunters". These are the original guys, Gherman, Maria, and the others. They were originally hired by the scholars of Byrgenwerth to aid in Tomb Prospecting, and accompanied them to the Hamlet and were the ones who led the slaughter of the villagers and Kos. As an aside, I believe the way that Byrgenwerth got wind of the Hamlet was due to the slugs, presumably the village traded it's excess catches to the surrounding areas and with the slugs becoming their new staple product it's possible one found its way to Yharnam, and eventually into the hands of a scholar who recognized what it was. Anyway, things kind of fall apart after the Hamlet. Maria retires from hunting, Lawrence leaves to form the Healing Church after "eyes on the inside" and the umbilical cord don't pan out with Rom, and Gherman leaves to form an official Hunter's Workshop. This gives birth to the second generation of Hunters, the Yharnam Hunters and the Powder Kegs. To combat the Scourge of Beasts that begins once the Healing Church discovers Blood Communion, Gherman begins designing his particular brand of Trick Weapons (the saws, the hammer, the staff, etc.), all made specifically to counter those sorts of Beasts. Trick Weapons predate the workshop, including specifically Gherman's scythe, Maria's Rakuyo, and Eileen's daggers, but the scythe and daggers are specifically mentioned to be made of a metal called siderite, a special kind of iron that the game mentions "came from the heavens". One of the defining features of metals that come from meteorites ("from the heavens") is that they tend to be magnetically charged. So these original weapons were designed with magnetism in mind, rather than the more complex mechanisms we later see, but inspired the concept of two weapons within the form of a single one. Also draws interesting parallels to the idea of beasthood, right? Something that can transform into something more dangerous when it draws blood. The original Hunters were meant to be very hush hush, operating in secret in order to keep the Scourge of Beasts from becoming public. Their weapons, in their basic forms, resemble tools as much as actual weaponry and their uniforms are very casual and have few tell-tale badges or obvious symbols to give them away. The Powder Kegs were "heretical" for this reason, preferring loud and explosive solutions that, while effective, completely lacked subtlety. It's possible they were the ones charged with cleansing Old Yharnam, since a massive conflagration seems in keeping with their style and Djura is still there keeping an eye on the place. Lastly, you have the Church Hunters. Once the scourge became too big to hide after the burning of Old Yharnam, the Church set up organized, scheduled hunts (The Night of the Hunt). Led by their own people, like Ludwig, and conscripting from the ranks of the Yharnam commoners, they would ride out and viscously murder anyone out on the street or who even had a whiff of beasthood about them (which is why everyone locks up and hides on that night). By this time the beasts had started becoming bigger and more powerful, like the Cleric Beasts, so Church Trick Weapon doctrine abandoned subtlety in the favor of larger, oversized weapons that would be more effective against massive foes (Holy Blade, Kirkhammer, Pick, Ludwig Rifle).

[@adamp6320]

You deserve way more subs. Thanks for these videos, they're great!

[@AesirAesthetics]

Glad you like them!

[@tylerjcranford]

WAIT, SO.....if everything is cyclical, and hundreds or thousands of years in the future, the story repeats itself, then... Ending 2 you're the next Gehrman Ending 3 you're the next moon presence, not just a new random great one!!!

[@AesirAesthetics]

I see it more as "when you transcend into a great one you break the cycle"

[@RedMoonArcade]

You have no idea how much I appreciate putting Richard on a structured piece of content. I love SinclairLore, but.. haha. Anyway, after a couple of years, it's nice to see a newly summarized take on Bloodborne, with the evolution of things that weren't accepted/considered at the time of my binge on the matter.

[@beansnrice321]

Omg. The guffaw that bubbled up from my belly when JSF said, " I fucking knew!" when Sin mentioned Reborn, was world destroying. XD

[@SinclairLore]

❤

[@EinFelsbrocken]

God damn; my mans being roasted within literally the first 2 minutes smh 😫😆

[@AesirAesthetics]

😔

[@OmarDimelo]

Love the channel, I am here to your channel via Richie and Sin. There is a great sense of community with this game, never get tired of it , great work to all the guests

[@AesirAesthetics]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@thedanielstraight]

I really enjoyed this. Bloodborne is my favorite game ever, so this was a great discussion.

[@RitaMaSTeR]

Hello! Iam here just to remember you that I will watch this from start to finish once I complete bloodborne for the first time myself. Thank you once again!

[@AesirAesthetics]

This is the way

[@RitaMaSTeR]

@@AesirAesthetics your pacience is godly like, you have all this work, and a lots of your viewers "cant" watch it right away, not without sploilers Kuddos to you sir

[@nugsboodlepoo]

The pixel art is so darn cute lol. I love the li'l hunter roasting marshmallows

[@Zukos.Honor.]

AHHH I will never get over Bloodborne content! Cheers fellow hunter!

[@ApenBaard]

I genuinely thought that was Richard doing an impression of the bloodminister for a sec during that first sentence xD

[@AesirAesthetics]

lol

[@RxAxIxNxBxOxW]

Great episode of the snack co... oh sorry the Coffe and snacks podcast! Btw, crossover when?! Would be perfect!

[@craigpaterson302]

What an truly inspiring piece of work/art Bloodborne is. This channel with all the others and their impassioned contributors and followers are surely testament to that. I had once read that an accomplished author ( I forget who) after reading James Joyce’s novel ‘Ulysses’ stated they were going to find it difficult to enjoy any other work of written fiction now as this really could not be bettered. Perhaps not the best to set absolutes as such, however I would not feel uncomfortable in raising Bloodborne to this type of level within the video game market. I have read, watched and listened to lots of fans discussing Hidetaka Miyazaki works over the years, but in my opinion this sits alone as his stand out work, across all directors works in fact, as I believe he has ‘transcended’ what a video game can actually be. I’m sure there are other games (Dark Souls) that leave the player with questions as to why or what they are tying to accomplish in game, but Bloodborne lingers in the memory long after you have completed it, the questions it asks, it’s ambiguous nature (in my opinion) raises issues with the true ‘insight’ of the real world in which we live, how we got here and what is our purpose? I have been told I read far too much into things, but great works of Art (which I think this is) can be interpreted in many different ways and affect people differently. The games very nature is one where it assumes you will gain insight to unravel the truth of what is happening and has happened and within this Miyazaki has layered an ambiguous, symbolic story that for 6 years now has attempted to be interpreted by ourselves which in turn reflects our own journey of understanding, Homo-sapiens place in the universe...where are we going, what is the purpose of life! A Philosophical, thought provoking masterpiece! If anyone is interested......? after a few playthrough‘s I had come to assume that the story was one representing that of human history...namely the rise of religious belief and seeking understanding of the world, the split (schism) in religious doctrine and faith, the advent of scientific discovery (that then challenged the faith), the inevitable wars and bloodshed and then the difficulties people’s face when they have been indoctrinated into a particular belief and have to work with other people’s with opposing ways of life. To me now when I hear those initial words ‘Oh Yes, Paleblood’ or read the note ‘Seek Paleblood to transcend the hunt’ it no longer is specifically referring to a thing or a substance for me now.....it’s referring to YOU, the HUNTER and at a more transcendental level you as a human as you make your way through this fked up world! We are all Paleblood’s, we can all transcend ourselves and the lives we live. The note was an instruction for someone (anyone) to be found that can transcend the hunt, in effect when they do they will become a great one, you will become a Paleblood! This is the real true ending, the one where true insight has been achieved, and in game you are presented as a newly evolved slug creature being cradled in the arms of a doll, created in a dream in the hope that she will be able to assist you in becoming the great hope for civilisation! For me (it’s more digestible message) is that no one true path is the right one (we partake in all three cords in game), that set doctrines will only divide people, that scientific advancement at all costs is destructive, and that all ‘people’s’ regardless of how remote or primitive they may appear have something important to add in our collective understanding. ‘People’s’ that live a simple life, like in a fishing hamlet let’s say with their local customs, resisting outer world influences, untouched by corporate business or organised religion who’s way of life was destroyed forever when unstoppable forces invaded both their lands and minds figuratively and literally. We can dream that a better way of life for all will emerge out of this nightmare soon enough, but I fear that this and future generations must bear the curse of our fathers and endure this for many more years to come! Thanks for reading.

[@Kormeister]

Nice, I've been watching your over 7 hours video, so this is a delightful addition!

[@AesirAesthetics]

Glad you liked it!

[@Big_Dai]

I'm sad Richard was "driven away from humanity".. he seems like such a nice dude, and very knowledgeable on a topic I myself love. I imagine he looks at the sky now, just as Willem does.. with his eyes covered (as to not look at Twitter).

[@Mojj2099]

Was not expecting to get spoiled by uzumaki lmao

[@madmorgo6233]

Ooohhh!! FR... dunno how I didn't know that already. Serves me right for not reading it yet 🤦🏻

[@Hugo_Tate]

Dude your videos are freaking amazing

[@AesirAesthetics]

Glad you think so!

[@southofheck]

Honestly I don’t doubt Miyazaki lies in interviews to keep people off the trail a bit. Maybe it’s sort of a way of dealing with people asking for straight up answers for games that are supposed to be open and up to interpretation.

[@bence51]

Thank you for the work you put in your videos!

[@AesirAesthetics]

My pleasure!

[@ryanerickson3063]

I clicked on this so hard I had to rally to get my health back

[@Sleeper-vs9oq]

Thank you for two great videos in such a short amount of time.

[@AesirAesthetics]

Glad you like them.

[@gwynlee6192]

The thing about it is that I have always noticed no one covers this. Bloodborne happens in an instant all at the same time. Think of every time you die. Or every time you level up or got to the Hunter's Dream and buy something. the only time your perception of time advances is after the death of certain bosses. and in the A canon ending after this dream in which the main character has died and fought and killed the same enemy in the same place over and over and over again, German cuts their head of and the dream stops and he wakes up. B ending the character is stuck in the dream without ascending. C ending the Hunter transcends the Hunt.. The hunt is a dream. Implying that the Hunters transcends the dream itself. Becoming not just a dreamer but a dream themselves.

[@masterzoroark6664]

My idea about how the things went in fishing hamlet is that hunters asked the villagers to show them Kos, their god. Villagers summoned Kos ashore and once it was proven that the village harbors an Old One hunters were tasked with killing everyone, because otherwise Kos couldn't be disected and studied without interruption

[@MrBedZeppelin]

Great Collaboration! Very funny!! And informative!!!

[@darkslayer1161]

Banging videos that beat the quality of even Vaati. This is awesome.

[@pkailes]

Please let the "suddenly becoming a little great one after 100h of gameplay" stuff be real. I'd love to squishy-squish my way through hard bosses. Thank you, Sin.

[@AesirAesthetics]

lol

[@humblegamer7876]

Props for leaving in that insanely awkward opener lol

[@Luvias0415]

Another amazing video after another amazing video~

[@phantomjoker5]

this is exactly what I needed

[@AesirAesthetics]

:D

[@connorkinsman3164]

That comment about the interconnectivity and explaining how Laurence is BLB. I felt that trying to explain exactly this on reddit. It all keys around the skull, but you have to include so many small details to make why the skull is definitely laurence's make sense.

[@darkslayer1161]

Did we take humanity with us? When we ascended? Everyone else fell short, except us...

[@morganm8935]

No need for sleep! Thanks man!

[@AesirAesthetics]

Sleep is for the weak!

[@blackgatefox501]

Just a small point here I want to make out of everything here. Viccar Amelia replaces Lawrence after he had fallen from grace so they had leader(s) after Lawrence, which means the loss of their authority over the city might have been more gradual than stated here. To me that is relevant because then instead of Lawrence dealing with other factions from start to finish, there were other Viccars that might have had agreements or deals with that wouldn't have been considered originally.

[@AlexanderJoneshttps]

Great video also enjoyed your 7 hour long video ! :)

[@AesirAesthetics]

Awesome, thank you!

[@DragonForrce14]

A genuine hero.

[@AesirAesthetics]

Enjoy!

[@IHateDubstep]

I'm not even done with the other 7 hour video yet haha

[@monthc]

Same here

[@AesirAesthetics]

:)

[@masterzoroark6664]

Micolash the Lawrece simp One of the best quotes from this vid

[@beansnrice321]

Could it be that just like how Elden Ring and Demons Souls were reimaging of the Kings Field series, can Bloodborne be a reimagining of Shadow Tower Abyss? =\

[@10hawell]

In Bloodborne, no one expects the hero, just a new employee in a declining organization. So no surprise that no one will give you orders to fuck off and wonder around the suburbs. And the hunters before the church were just hunters ... like for animals, to eat.

[@odinsrensen7460]

No mention of Redgraves's anemia theory? Fits better with the blood minister's opening line.

[@mavseveneightnine7379]

Micolash just wants to dance.

[@BungleJoogie68]

I always liked the idea that the reason great ones and their children always die is because hunters like the player live to kill them.

[@darkslayer1161]

All these great ones, are probably people who lost their families when they ascended. They lost the knowledge of their past life, and gained the knowledge of the place they ascended to. But they still crave having a child to call their own. But they can't do it themselves. Why else would they stick around?

[@remuskane8684]

So, how I always understood the whole “becoming a great one” thing was that when humanity entered it’s “next childhood” or whatever it is, is that now, for the first time, a human has become a great one. Isz (I think that’s how you spell it) was a successful city that touched the great ones, Loren was a failed city that was destroyed by the great ones, and Yharnum birthed a new great one. Every great one mourns their children, because they always come out stillborn. There hasn’t been a new, true great one for an incredibly long time. That’s why the Moon Presence tries to kill you. The Moon Presence’s whole thing was preventing great ones from becoming too powerful, but she found a rival in you. Edit for typos

[@colemanmichael5179]

Great vid. Thanks 😁👊💯

[@darkslayer1161]

What if, upon ascending, the race they belonged to ascended with them... Although not as much. They rise 1 tier higher, while the true ascended raises to the top?

[@barbarianzg8826]

👽melted in blood..reborn in blood..fear the old blood..👽

[@showseanjamie]

Phenomenal stuff

[@Tkokat]

Hey, how are you? Big fan of your channel. I was wondering if you ever considered doing a dark soul series analysis. May be the first and the third one (since the third one is a sequel). Just an idea. Love to see you grow. Keep it up =)

[@AesirAesthetics]

I have a couple of videos scheduled for DS1, DS3 I dont have much to say about

[@Tkokat]

@@AesirAesthetics It's cool, I just want to listen to your take on the game.

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

Hellll yeah my favorite game of the modern era

[@magnawaves]

Madlad adds a movie as an addendum to top off his 7 hour video. Well then, I've got a couple hours to burn. Away!

[@AesirAesthetics]

:D

[@Greviator]

Oh yeah, I have time.

[@AesirAesthetics]

Enjoy!

[@elilass8410]

BROOOOO NICE

[@jessicalaplant9306]

What is this a crossover episode

[@AesirAesthetics]

:)

[@darkslayer1161]

Hyping myself up to get a PS4 and introduce my girl to bloodborne.

[@Fanciable]

????????? ANOTHER UPLOAD THIS SOON hoooooo boy

[@AesirAesthetics]

:D

[@ThatResolves]

no worries about spoilers for me, not like its ever coming to pc lmao

[@AesirAesthetics]

"lmao's in sad"

[@d-rabbitfor5398]

May i ask which text font you used for the text in this video?

[@AesirAesthetics]

Garamond

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Well actually...you haven't suffered enough yet, Richard. It is why we let Sin bully you and it is why someday we will demand she leaves you to the wolves of the internet. Fear the Snack Covenant neckbeards.

[@AesirAesthetics]

lol

[@vonfolter]

McRomald’s cheesebyrgenwerth

[@manostororosso2364]

😮😯😲 MOOOAAAAH!!!!

[@Joshua-xs4or]

Immaculate.

[@rafagod2646]

Bob the Hollow remains the underground lore king

[@lanereynolds4567]

There is natural climate change. Egypt used to not be mostly desert, but far more lush and livable. But two thousand years and it's drastically different. And if we take the Uzumaki idea, of the chalice dungeons being frozen points in time, it could be the area used to be a desert way, way back... But the dungeons also have a little bit of Lovecraft's Dreamlands of Unknown Kadath quality. Now, the bb Dreamlands are closer, but with lovecraftian beings, world's tend to get muddled together when strong enough ones get too close or involved...

[@downsjmmyjones101]

Isn't Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen the oldest reference in the game? Like, she explains why the Yharnam is called Yharnam.

[@albertozalon8477]

Yea she is. they clearly know a ton about bloodborne but they complicate themselves with their own theories.

[@gennaronolano5356]

this was way too unexpected

[@AesirAesthetics]

Oh, I've got another surprise up my sleeve.

[@DevonRileyisdead]

nice.

[@AesirAesthetics]

Thanks

[@jacksonwes]

Why watch a movie when you have this masterpiece? Much better use of time.

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

The idea that any of this is scripted is patently absurd. One does not simply script such inane chaos as if it were cheap canned comedy. That would imply there is an inherent order to the madness, an irreconcilable contradiction in the lore

[@AesirAesthetics]

if it were scripted, we'd have done a better job :D

[@ultimistakeo4369]

It definitely was a funny joke.

[@renegadeguy2340]

Would love to play it for myself, but fuck Sony and their exclusivity bullshit. Thank you for the video

[@big_red01027]

Nobody actually read _Reborn_ .

[@ogjames21]

WHAT

[@Gruentastic]

AWAY! AWAY!

[@killerbeef543]

I 😍 U

[@hopebringer2348]

Hey, maybe you should put "Sophie Pilbeam" in the title instead. Don't know if that's what she would want, just thought I'd point it out

[@SinclairLore]

Hi! Aesir actually did ask and Sophie confirmed that this is fine :)

[@hopebringer2348]

@@SinclairLore Oh cool! Sorry for making assumptions

[@GoldenMarionette]

Sinclair is so useless all she says is unfunny jokes

[@lonelykitchen]

the analysis video was great but I am not interested in hearing your headcanon take on the story

[@fb1179]

I can't stand this cereal box mic girl, not fit for podcasting.

[@darkslayer1161]

Thats Sinclair. And it's audio issues.

[@gwynbleidd1917]

Wayyyy too much speculative head-canon bullshit being thrown around here.