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@AndrewFMRG3 ай бұрын
Never heard the Perkons described as cheesy or lame. It’s gritty, dark, industrial and often subby and harsh. But cheesy? There’s nothing typical about the unit. And even though it’s digital, it has analog filters and sounds heavy.
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
I agree with you whole heartedly ! I mentioned in the video that some of the drum sounds (in a vacuum) sound cheesy and that it would be cool if they would allow you to modulate using your own digital samples. I think it’s the modulation + FX that make it sound gritty, dark and industrial as you described.
@SIAKPHDLIVE2 ай бұрын
Yeah same I got to play with one in Germany a few months ago and I got it to slap real quick real easy!
@louderthangod2 ай бұрын
Agreed. I think some of the sounds dialed in here, especially in the beginning were not very interesting but I have no problem getting all kinds of unique sounds. You can really get some huge tones as well.
@audiosuy2 ай бұрын
I'm with you... What are these people listening to?
@episodesfromouterspace2 ай бұрын
@@LiamKillen you were wrong and that’s okay. tbh using perkons in the title of the video and not doing it justice is a bit lame ;) i am sure you can do better. the only useful information was the two second part about oxi, great recommendation, one of the best sequencers out there. anyway you might want to do a deep dive into perkons, you guys barely scratched the surface. you’ll find out that even without modulation and the onboard delay, perkons easily can and will whoop your @ss. that’s not a threat but a fact✌️
@KeithDuncanSound2 ай бұрын
The perkons hd-01 is my favourite drum machine ever. If they announced a hd-02 I would pre order in a heartbeat. I want them to make it bigger. Haha
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
I’m feeling that way about the Vermona perfourmer
@fotomaton78522 ай бұрын
I'm a drum machine nut and have had all the OG TRs, Elektron boxes etc. The Perkons is imo the most exciting drum machine since the 909. This was a good demo of it but calling it cheesy & lame was uncalled and shows a clear misunderstanding of what this unit is and can do. FYI it is not all digital, each voice has a multimode analog filter making it a hybrid. It has multiple synthesis engines and the BBD delay is actually analog too, not an emulation as stated by Mateo (kinda surprised he wasn't aware of that). That said the unconventional nature of this drum machine can be off-putting like most Erica Synth instruments, they veer towards a more forward-thinking industrial techno side. The company is a little cryptic in its product descriptions, purposely so I think. Anyways, this box is on top of my GAS list, build quality looks amazing too.
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
Very interesting take- thanks for this!
@schloelelelele2 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your comment, except in the manual and on Erica's website the delay is described as "BBD emulation". So it's probably not analog..
@fotomaton78522 ай бұрын
@@schloelelelele Looks like they've changed it, I can still find a page on their website where it states: "Built-in analogue bucket brigade delay and optical compressor".
@the_plutonionАй бұрын
trash opinions from total nobodies, no traffic generated to links 0/10
@camphabenero2 ай бұрын
More Mateo ! I really appreciate seeing these deep dives about live performances and hybrid set ups.
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
Yes! Here’s another from him incase you haven’t seen it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHa8fGB9jMRma9Usi=s-rQHTNhCeaxKaDU
@kathleencoveny38603 ай бұрын
Going down the " rabbit hole " of unlimited sound ... always insightful content when like minds get together and dialogue .. cheers to the sounds of music... thanks gentlemen! ..
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Cheers to you!
@earlsfieldАй бұрын
Wow I heard positive and negative feedback on Perkons, but I never heard anyone calling it cheesy lol. I love drum machines and I have quite a few - from retro stuff like Yamaha RX17, R-8, 606, small boxes like Volcas and LXR-02, to my go - to Analogue Rytm, Machine Drum, Tempest, Tanzbar, a few modular drum synths and FM driven stuff like Blast Beats and Digitone. I was eager to get Perkons when it came out as it really sounded unique - it would be worth checking Superbooth 2021 presentation of Perkons, guy from Erica had a killer performance, but also it sounds so different. And honestly, it hardly sounded cheesy or “standard” in any way - it doesn’t have analogue feel, it doesn’t sound like any of the Roland machines and it is, like many others, 4 channels of whatever you make of it, with a very cool sequencer. I like what Matteo did with it, and I do advise you pair it up with another groove boxes and treat Perkons as an addition to your percussion and melody, rather than core drum stuff (although it can do it quite well). The reason for closed architecture is, this is not a sampler - the waveforms used in Perkons have been curated with a lots of attention to drum synthesis, and opening it to sample loading would drop the focus from what it does the best. I mean, I don’t know many beat oriented machines that care about Karplus-Strong. You can turn Perkons into wild, droning machine and I think they were gunning for unique sound from the get go - it does have that industrial dirt all over it and I honestly used it in industrial, hard techno and cinematic tracks where it really sounds like thunder.
@LiamKillenАй бұрын
The only thing that I think is cheesy are the initial digital sounds that they have uploaded into the unit. I find it to be an interesting choice that they don't at least you to upload your own samples, that would open up the unit so much. But what Mateo showed in this video is that with all of the modulation and FX, the end result is very far from being cheesy.
@earlsfieldАй бұрын
@@LiamKillen I honestly think uploading user waves would totally ruin the device. It would make it into some kind of hybrid sampler, which it is not. The only reason the unit is not fully analogue is the fact ES wanted to have broader palette of source sounds that just classics(and there are classics in the simple drum). I honestly do not find them cheesy, of course, it is subjective. But as i said before, I think closing the system to user waves was deliberate choice so you can focus on drum synthesis with the palette you are given - and honestly, I would hate to hear 606 kick through this machine. Many other developers do the same, think Hydrasynth - their representative almost yelled at me when I asked if there will be a firmware upgrade allowing the user wavetables lol
@robhaddock2034Ай бұрын
Looks like ES agree with you. Sample uploads now possible.
@earlsfieldАй бұрын
@ yep firmware 1.2 allows for “rompler swap” - you can load your samples. I honestly don’t need this feature but I see why it might be appealing.
@hexwavemusic2 ай бұрын
Great setup and walkthrough, that Perkons is real nice!
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
Hey thx for watching! 😊
@marcelvogel805Ай бұрын
great video . thank you
@LiamKillenАй бұрын
always a pleasure :-)
@Noise-Maker3 ай бұрын
I love seeing Perkons videos :)😇
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Thx for watching! 😊
@Seekandtune3 ай бұрын
Your favorite piece of kit!
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
I’m more of an Analog Rytm type of guy for drum machines!
@Thegingerwolff2 ай бұрын
First person in the history of history to slate the mighty perkons. Just so you know........i know where you live
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
😳
@karate99573 ай бұрын
YEAH MATEO IS BACK.
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
And he’ll be back again 😏
@Saulius3032 ай бұрын
I love my Perkons❤. If someone is not happy, let me know. I'll buy it. I have been playing live set with it from ambient to techno. Even playing an improvisation sets with acoustic instruments. Drum machine is a wrong name because Perkons can do a lot more .
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
It’s also an amazing drone machine!
@rjadamz9117Ай бұрын
That kick on Perkons sounds pretty beefy.
@LiamKillenАй бұрын
Yeah the kick is cool - for me it's the higher end samples - although it's my understanding that you can upload your own samples now
@thanassisxydeas3 ай бұрын
Interesting video! I have the Bebe Cherie and it's fantastic. It makes your sound with two or three movements, magical. I don't know of anything quite like it.
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
I think a video specifically on the Bebe Cherie would make sense
@rjadamz9117Ай бұрын
Go get a Jomox or Modor drum Machine. The Jomox sounds are everything.
@LiamKillenАй бұрын
Yeah that thing is a beast.
@alessiooissela2273 ай бұрын
Nooo😢 why did you cut the performance on 17:41 😭🤌🤌
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Sorrryyyyyyyy
@peladoclaus3 ай бұрын
Thinking this also. Gear review is cool, but you've been having some top notch peeps on too. I'd love to hear these guests jamming out maybe on a separate video? You could have this kind of thing in an additional Playlist kind of thing?
@damienwoods57442 ай бұрын
Agree. Playing music then analysing work flow.
@markguardiani13892 ай бұрын
please post some of the perfomance!
@Thegingerwolff2 ай бұрын
I know right? I've got a perkons and syntakt and that end part sounded so cool
@ColeDano3 ай бұрын
Bebe Cherie!
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Oui oui!
@markparker43623 ай бұрын
"Cheesy and lame"???? I think that description is definitely cheesy and lame!!! If you want the same old same old, don't go for the Perkons!
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
I think with the modulation though that’s what brings it into an entirely new territory
@chriisuuАй бұрын
I wish there was a 10-20min jam showcasing the setup. Now we only hear the explanation for the setup but have no idea how it sounds :(
@LiamKillenАй бұрын
There's plenty of other examples out there! Hopefully this pointed you in the right direction :-)
@alessiooissela2273 ай бұрын
Nice 😍
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
🍻
@mikewatkinson19962 ай бұрын
When yall were talking about that OTO mixer, at first i heard its "the O.T.O. Baby Shitty". I did a double take like wtf did he just say lmao
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
Bebe cherie- kind of sounds like that with a French accent eh? Lol
@boombap083 ай бұрын
Octatrack maybe could act as a mixer/efx for both perkons/syntakt then use it for samples too?
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Yes you could def do that!
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Yes you could def do that!
@Dopamine_ieАй бұрын
You can upload 3 samples on voice 4
@LiamKillenАй бұрын
Thanks for this addition ! :-)
@tangbrotang3 ай бұрын
Woooow OTO Bebe Cherie mixer nice
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Almost wonder if the video should been about that lol
@bryanbytes3 ай бұрын
More on Oto Bebe Cherie please
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Noted
@vinnieRice3 ай бұрын
New Elektron box in beta testing I see... TONVERK?
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Still not sure if that’s actually a thing! As for an Elektron mixer? Yes please
@vinnieRice3 ай бұрын
@@LiamKillen Hmm....
@chateaudisco14363 ай бұрын
@@vinnieRiceare you referring to the pink unit?
@Goldlion9733 ай бұрын
Wanted one but its not so diverse soundwise from what I've heard online. Apparently the chassis also feels empty, much better devices out there for the money.
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
With modulation it’s actually super diverse from what I heard!
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
For me- the Analog Rytm is just the way
@vortex21773 ай бұрын
External processing?
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Yes? 🤔
@kobi-kobsenАй бұрын
I has higher expectations for the Perkons. I would rather get a Jomox or just a Syntakt.
@LiamKillen28 күн бұрын
All three are dope for different reasons
@kobi-kobsen28 күн бұрын
@@LiamKillen Yes you´re right but in my mind there´s also something like a dopeness/price ratio.
@ToasterHeadMusic2 ай бұрын
I think with how cheesy the sounds are, maybe it's not a good investment?
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
Mateo made em sound good! 🤷♂️
@dxtrs_mnpltrАй бұрын
Not sure what cheese means to you but this machine is anything but cheesy 😆
@LiamKillenАй бұрын
The default samples on their own are quite peculiar - but modulation is what brings them to the next lvl - although I heard that now you can upload your own, which is very cool.
@Axiomstatic2 ай бұрын
Cheesy sound lol -unsubscribe- terrible overview
@LiamKillen2 ай бұрын
Cool effect with the crossing out of the "unsubscribe". If you watch further you'll realize how we discover that the modulation makes the HD-01 very much not cheesy, despite the vry basic digital samples they include on there. Thanks for watching in any case :-)
@qwertymesa3 ай бұрын
first
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
Better first then last!
@utubebroadcastme3 ай бұрын
Everyone wants Elektron to come up with a mixer ... except Elektron 😅
@LiamKillen3 ай бұрын
It would destroy - or maybe not
@bryanbytes3 ай бұрын
Octatrack can be used as a mixer
@rijksvoorlichtingsdienst44272 ай бұрын
Why compete in the mixer market?
@bryanbytes2 ай бұрын
Everyone has their preferred tools and types of tools… for some, small differences in mixers can mean a lot If I could only use one “effect”, I’d chose a filter / equalizers similar to a mixer