Exposing the Star Trek Legacy LIE!

[@CaptRobertApril]

A large part of why Matalas got away with as much as he did was because nobody higher up cared. Kurtzman was busy with all these other projects he's trying to ram through, Goldsman was busy with SNW, and Paramount saw Picard as a wounded duck on its way out the door anyway, enabling Matalas to pretty much retcon as much as he could (USS New Jersey, anyone?), and set up what was essentially a ten hour backdoor pilot. This has put Paramount, and particularly Secret Hideout, in the position of either backing Star Trek Legacy, or give the fans even more legitimate reasons to hate Alex Kurtzman.

[@jeremydoud4885]

What ST:PIC really is is a back door pilot for ST:LEG...just like DISCO season 2 was a back door pilot for ST:SNW.... jus wish that the powers that be would be smart and hold off on Starfleet Academy and give us fans our "precious" Legacy we are all jonesing for!!!!

[@TheSlackrguy]

I am an outlier for a Legacy series. My preferred Legacy series was Shaw as captain of the Titan. I would still give the Seven on Enterprise G a try.

[@schumi9xwdc]

Nope

[@TheSlackrguy]

@@schumi9xwdc I’m not an outlier? Good to know, thanks!

[@qui-gonrick7002]

Yep. I wanted to see a Captain Shaw series aboard the Titan. Not excited about a 7 of 9/Rafi show on a fake Enterprise.

[@brentburgess2159]

I'd take that...as long as Raffi isn't first officer. Can't stand her character. So unprofessional, juvenile and not Starfleet material in the slightest.

[@jpasan]

I'll believe when I see it. Like the Stargate revival

[@mlbslugger62]

Please no Stargate revival. The orig. movie was wonderful but everything following is just garbage.

[@julesw1403]

I liked SG-1, and Atlantis, so I’m in for a new telling. Stargate movie was good as well. James Spader was the perfect choice for Dr. Daniel Jackson in the film. I think Richard Dean Anderson won the O’Neill (“that’s with TWO L’s!”) Currently, I’m watching the entire series of SG-1 since I didn’t get to see all the shows for pesky old work. 😢 21 shows a season, wow. Hardly get 6-10 per season from most current series. A lot more goes into it these days, I know.

[@alexanderrahl482]

​@@mlbslugger62 Did you hit a crack pipe before making that comment? Everything after the first movie...Trash?..🤣💀

[@kellydavidson3379]

I am very excited about the possibility of Star Trek: Legacy, however, I don't think 'fan service' or 'giving the fans what they want' is always a good thing in terms of storytelling. I also think I heard you say that, "Jonathan Frakes directed a load of Strange New Worlds' (episodes)', but I thought he only directed the crossover episode with Lower Decks, "Those Old Scientists" (he did direct a lot of ST: Picard and ST: Discovery). Anyway, fingers crossed that you are correct about Paramount/Amazon Prime Video's plans (and I really hope Terry Matalas is heavily involved)! I will make a ton of noise if it will help get this series across the finish line!🖖

[@RobertFalconer1967]

Meanwhile, John De Lancie just said this about 'Legacy' > "I don’t think at this point, it will happen. There was a fun period of time that it looked like it could happen. But then there was the writers’ strike, which took a lot of people’s attentions away. I don’t think that they expected that season 3 was going to be as good and as well-received. They had already decided on another show. They were already moving in another direction. But it was certainly a really valiant and well-appreciated finale to The Next Generation."

[@erraticattempts]

Spot on - just as it was clear SNW would happen when we saw the Enterprise and Pike on Discovery, the prep work on Picard Season 3 was heading this way. On the other hand, NCIS: Red didn't happen in spite of the backdoor pilot during NCIS:LA, so who knows. But the groundwork has been done for a reason. --- SGA started the same way in SG-1, it was built up for years.

[@alonzochubb7061]

Please, no ST Academy. Do Legacy.

[@sherryojeda9178]

It may be a good show. They could have different ones pop on and lead special classes.

[@sherryojeda9178]

I so want to see ST Legacy show. Revive Shaw, maybe he didn't die or maybe he comes back from the mirror universe and is similar to the original Shaw. Wesley needs to join the show. The Crusher brothers. Yes! Maybe Jack will become Jack Picard.

[@coecludd]

"We love you, we love you Trekkies - please don't hate Alex Kurtsman" - OK, I did laugh out loud! 😆

[@johnkelly7757]

But the man is so hatable.

[@robertanthony5010]

All the Star trek legacy cast are attending a Creation Star trek convention in South San Francisco in March 8th through 10thh in California

[@jkoolpe]

Is that true? I saw Ms. Ryan and Ms. Hurd on the guest list...is that all though? In any case, I'm local and plan to attend and am actually hoping to participate/contribute by bringing some Star Trek-themed pinball and arcade games I and a few of my friends own for attendees to enjoy (currently working out the details with the organizers).

[@dennywordkiller4253]

Jeri Ryan, Michelle Hurd and Terry Matalas will be there, not the entire cast.

[@highrzr]

Frack Academy. As long as they keep Kurtzman away from it, I'll be interested.

[@happypanda2382]

Definitely want a Legacy series. I just hope the writers can find a way to bring Shaw back as a main character as well. Maybe make him an AI or similar to the doctor from Voyager.

[@quantumjet253]

Yep, totally agree. I think that was the biggest misstep in season three. I thought he was excellent. I loved that he was abrasive towards Picard, and while initially the lack of respect towards Seven felt uncomfortable, the reason for that, and the eventual turn around made him an outright amazing character. I like your idea of bringing him back in virtual form. I could see him being a virtual mentor to Seven during difficult times; a shoulder to lean on. In fact I think that could work better than actually having him be around for real.

[@YourMissingEyeBrow]

They appear doubtful about their product. This doesn't fill me with confidence

[@bkstarkey]

Screams gun shy doesn’t it?

[@BlueHorde]

Paramount is run by idiots, the Star Trek subsidiary less so. Don't conflate the two. A lot of the "doubt" you are seeing is the Trek producers guiding their idiot bosses at Paramount into making sensible decisions.

[@lindaschulman1789]

Does it matter if it’s planned or not? As long as they do it as well as Picard season three was done and as well as they’ve done Strange New World, I don’t care if it’s planned, not planned, if they’re pulling wool over my eyes. Give me Star Trek!

[@ryanpilotte1640]

Honestly, I believe that you are correct in saying that it is part of the long term plan for Star Trek by those involved. But the other side of this is true as well, we will only get it if we make enough noise to say that it is something we truly want. The examples of shows (spinoff or standalone) that we have been teased with over the years and never actually got on our screens is far too long to mention. Shout it to the heavens, WE WANT STAR TREK LEGACY!!! Whether it was planned or a response to the fans, the only way to get it is to tell them we want it.

[@DanielMReck]

I called for Star Trek: Seven the moment she appeared in Picard S1, to focus on her with six other main cast, some new and some "legacy." I have confidence that Legacy (dumb name totally optimized to sell well) will be as well produced as Star Trek: Excelsior. Remeber that? Back when there was no doubt Takei had it in him to do a series following The Undiscovered Country, in part of the timeline where no Trek has gone before...or EVER. Sure, it sorta would have been a prequel to TNG, but with 80 years of room to avoid blowing up continuity, it would have been a SEQUEL to the TOS era, ready to build on that story rather than undermine it. Instead, the producers can't help themselves. They keep launching series crowded into the mid 23rd century, as if they can't figure out how to tell a story at any other time. They certainly can't tell a story in the 23rd centry Prime timeline without banging into continuity. This was proven when after years of Disco producers adamantly proclaiming that they were absolutely in the Prime timeline despite all the OBVIOUS evidence it couldn't be, they realized that they had dug themselves such a deep hole that they catapulted the series 800 years into the future and then retconned it out of existence with Strange New Worlds. Thankfully, this was promptly followed by Strange New Worlds retconning itself into its own separate Strange timeline, which drags Lower Decks out of the Prime timeline, as well. This finally dispenses with all the discontinuities between the Prime timeline (including Picard) and everything that has occurred in Disco, SNW, and LD. More importantly, it removes the handcuffs from the Strange New Worlds writers. It is no longer necessary that everyone who appears in TOS and later actually survive SNW, because they are in different timelines. No longer are Pike, Number One, Spock, M'Benga, Uhura, Chapel, Scott, the Kirk bros, and the Enterprise herself completely bulletproof and shielded by plot armor. Now they are actually free to be as interesting as Hemmer and Ortegas, who are BY FAR the most interesting characters on the series because they are the only people who don't have a predefined expectation about who they "should" be. Frankly, if the SNW writers wanted to do really well, they would outright say they are rejecting the Prime timeine in favor of this new Strange timeline. They should give notice that the audience should not make any assumptions on anything that they've ever known, and then they should write accordingly, consistent with what they have established themselves and with the basics of human behavior. (Had to mention that last part there, because the response to Burnham's perpetual emotional turmoil by her crewmates and Starfleet as an organization for not at all realistic in terms of how actual human beings exist... It should be obvious, but even in fiction, humans need to human if the story is going to work.)

[@johnkelly7757]

Fans on both sides(pro & anti Kurtzman) are understandably gun-shy after all we've seen and heard in recent years so it'll take time to warm up to the possibility and then actuality of ST Legacy.

[@3698s]

I would not be surprised if Terry Matalas will be consulted on Legacy regardless of what he is committed to producing with other studios. Having Frakes as the main go to guy would be great. I have never had any doubts that Legacy would be a go, Paramount wants to make money and giving us, the fans is one way to make that happen It was just a matter of when with the only possible wrench would be Paramount's financial situation. As for Kurtzman his record is a mixed bag, I think that Kurtzman & Paramount will eventually part ways it probably depends on how much he is offered. I wish that SF Academy was not going to happen, but I will give it a fair chance. There is no way to stop it because for some unworldly reason a show centered around SF Academy has been bouncing around for years. Perhaps Paramount has learned its lesson regarding going too far with Star Trek? Maybe having Tawny Newsome in the writer's room is a good sign that the show will not be an embarrassment.

[@DarrinBell]

I don't understand why this is being presented as a lie. This is no different than a backdoor pilot. Every show I watched when I was a kid had a few backdoor pilots. They did a lot of development, hired a whole cast of characters and built entire sets, for one or two episodes. And if viewer reaction and network reaction were positive, they'd proceed with a spinoff. This isn't a lie, this is standard procedure. This isn't a situation where they'd have given us Legacy no matter what. If fan reaction were negative or ambivalent, you can bet they'd have scrapped the whole idea.

[@strausskrauss]

I usually like this channel, but this vibes like clickbait. I just watched a video from this same guy saying that his “sources” have confirmed that legacy is coming and it will be coproduced by Amazon. I feel like I need to not watch this video and unsubscribe to this channel.😓

[@Yandarval]

Very disappointed by Raffi being the XO of the G in Legacy. Im not a fan of the character at all.

[@GringoPicante]

Tom Paris was a character that was all over the place but a story arc that led him to be a stable husband/father made him into a great character.

[@lezking5060]

If the Academy series was to be set in the pre-TNG era, around (or shortly after) Enterprise-C's final mission, that could be really interesting for me. It could explore the changes and tensions brought about by the early stages of the thawing of relations with the Klingon Empire, with Romulans seeking to disrupt any moves towards an alliance (so an occasional threat)... and the emergence of the Cardassians as the leading "recurring" foe (leading up to the Cardassian war). There could be a crossover (of sorts) with the "offspring" of TOS era characters interacting with the "ancestors" of TNG era characters - depending on the position in the "timeline", we could see Admiral Paris as a cadet, being a contemporary with Nyota Uhura's niece, for example. Some stories could be set on a "Training ship", where cadets go off on "field trip" missions, so that there is room for plotlines to move beyond the confines of the Academy buildings. That would be a show I *would* watch, as the "Lost era" is an untapped resource waiting to be exploited.

[@LtFoodstamp]

The way CBS/Paramount has handled it's fans over the past 7 years has been disgraceful. 1. Shutting down fan productions 2. Blaming fans for their political views when they simply dislike a show 3. Pretending that unliked Star Trek shows are more successful that they really are 4. Constantly ignoring what the fans really want 5. Giving us what we really want and then pretending they're not going to. Shitty company. Period.

[@bluntguy9532]

Shutting down the fan films was enough for me. Sure, a lot of them were not good. But I'd put up certain episodes of either New Voyages/Phase two and ST Continues against anything official that's come out since Enterprise. (Give Enterprise a second look naysayers)

[@testpilotian3188]

I stopped watching NuTrek after season 2 of STD, I just felt the entire storyline was surrounding “cool” things that would look good on screen rather than a coherent story. Plus obviously, it wasn’t made for me, my political views didn’t align with the producers so I took the hint and found something better to watch, The Orville and The Expanse.

[@BlueHorde]

@@testpilotian3188 Too bad, NuTrek improved a lot, even Disco.

[@julesw1403]

@@testpilotian3188 Love The Orville.

[@bozimmerman]

​@@bluntguy9532:) I think Enterprise S4 is one of the best seasons of Trek ever (excluding the Finale of course). :)

[@willem1642]

After Discovery and season 2 of Strange New Worlds, I am very apprehensive about new series of Star Trek.

[@johnkelly7757]

Season 2? I would've thought season 1, 2 seemed considerably improved.

[@jonnywyattgreengreen3301]

Great video. The pention for Legacy more signed than SNW. We need Legacy . With Section 31 l am sorted looking foward to it . Academy series not looking foward to it . I like the first two seasons of Discoverys . 3 and 4 were very disappointing part from Trill episode. As fan l have had enough of star trek set in original series timeline .l love SNW part from lay out inside the Enterprise. The series l want is star trek on unknown ship with new characters and no reference to star trek characters or episodes or films. I really enjoy your videos.

[@user-ThomReec8587]

It take 2 to 3 years to get Legacy done, 31 & Acadamy are still about 2 years before their done

[@michaelthomas5433]

Geez how much make-up will they cake on poor Jeri Ryan's face by the time all those years have past.

[@dannyboy4629]

And when the series does come out I’d like to see Admiral Janeway make a cameo appearance congratulating 7 of nine. I think that would be an awesome part.

[@josephforrest3713]

I preferred Strange New Worlds to Picard. It wasn't perfect. It was a little too safe... But it was waaaay more consistent. I also prefeed season 1 of Picard, to season 3. At least season 1 pushed things a little. Season 3 was a wank fest to TNG. It started off OK... But the ending was like... Right so the Borg again... And the shape sifters are... Where, exactly... And I don't even want to talk about season 2...

[@schoreschdavoodi9930]

i agree with you. i had some theory since i saw Season 2 of Picard. and what you say fits infro my theory since back then i have about this. So i am curious when and what we will see with Legacy.

[@colinleat8309]

I don't know about others, but I'm not letting the studio manipulate my emotions any more. I'm not signing any more petitions. If they make it, cool, if not, whatever.

[@thomasheisler]

I'm glad Legacy is happening, i dont mind them playing the fan card, it makes more fun. I think its high time Jonathon Frakes become a Admiral Riker, by being a tad more of an Admiral in theshow like that one female Admiral that gave picard a hard time but in a slight diffrent type of direction.Picard show show off the new enterprise as well.This could be the most awesome rebirth of star trek that all fans will love!!!!!!!! ohhh what if Riker twin makes an apearance? what could happen there? What about advance rases the gave kirk the cold shoulder, could be interesting to see a few of them come back.

[@nyny]

Fan card! They put every variation of Spock they could find! I'm surprised they arent selling a plushie baby spock

[@mikewright447]

i thought frakes had already said he wants to do legacy and had already been in talks with paramount ?.

[@terrya448]

get rid of Academy and give us Legacy sooner.

[@michaelthomas5433]

No Raffi.

[@lezking5060]

I think, having had their "fingers burnt" a little, with Discovery, they aren't going to throw money into a project that isn't going to be sellable... That means, they need to be sure that fans do want it, before spending the money on it (especially when you consider just how expensive these kind of shows are to make, these days). Yes, it might always have been the plan to take the Legacy idea forward... but we all still need to give them the confidence to put money into it. If we want it, then we need to tell them, and show them... or why should they put money into it? They are in business, after all, so I don't really blame them. Unfortunately, I also feel like Alex Kurtzman might hold Legacy as a hostage, to make sure he gets his vanity project (Academy) made... so he thinks that an ultimatum like "support Academy, or you don't get Legacy" might work. Personally, I'm not sure "Starfleet 90210" or "Star Trek: Hollyoaks" would be my kind of show, but I do understand that some people love the idea... and it could be an interesting concept (if done right) - so I'd give it a try, regardless of whether Legacy hung on that or not. I like Sci-fi... and for me, although the first season of Discovery wasn't great, it did find it's feet eventually, and although it might not be "my Star Trek", it's not a bad sci-fi show.

[@edcnoyb3782]

I think the future ownership of Paramount, and the future if Paramount+ needs to be determined before we will have any shot of seeing Legacy.

[@bozimmerman]

I'm convinced fans focus overmuch on very superficial and familiar aspects, ignoring the things that make a franchise work, and the process it took to get there. For example: old characters and familiar names, IMHO, completely ignores what made old Trek so great. TNG wasn't great because Stewart, Picard, Frakes, or Riker: it was great because of the writing and Roddenberry's vision. Instead of Spock look-alikes, they should be looking for Braga write-alikes.

[@MisterKen81]

Strange new worlds had hope but they ruined it by making it fan fiction

[@mlbslugger62]

Then I guess you go watch something else and stop trolling

[@qui-gonrick7002]

I'm still watching it and hoping it gets better, but it's been a disappointment. The writing just isn't good, and yes, a lot of fan service.

[@bozimmerman]

You know man: after Discovery, Picard, and the cartoon stuff, SNW only had to float to the top of the stinking pile to impress me, and it did that. When you are dragged that low, the "bar" falls with you I guess. :)

[@MisterKen81]

If they do section 31, strange new worlds season 3 and starfleet academy then I won’t watch legacy. Don’t reward stupidity

[@onlocationkat]

Terry Metalis said on his Twitter, he likes the fan appreciation, but there is no Star Trek Legacy in development. There could be, but he doesn't see one.

[@unitruth]

Can you imagine if the genius studio execs had not joined the streaming crap shoot , made quality stories and didn't try to replace actors and writers with AI? They'd have lots of money instead of being bankrupt.

[@nixboox]

Legacy is done. They did it. Paramount rejected the Enterprise G idea and want a show more like TNG. They basically found offensive all the same things a lot of the fans did where the behavior of the new crews are childish and not in keeping with Star Trek canon. They're looking for an "adult" show now and none of the new trek fits that bill.

[@GringoPicante]

As a fan of trek novels i wish they would make a series on the Excalibur series. It's perfect for today's generation of trekkies.

[@JetScreamer_YT]

I call her Roofie! Seriously, I did not like her character. But I also felt for her when they had to wedge in Riker amd Troi. I think Admiral FukFace (I love Ann Magnuson) was supposed to save the day. I bet there was a redemption scene.for.Raffi. Without redemption, she is a racist trope. "Federation came and took my baby". She's in a trailer home but there's no economy like we know it in that future. Picard straight up used her, and never apologized. Never acknowledged the sacrifice of maybe her last friend. It just left a horrible impression for me. I was really grateful for her redemption in season Three.

[@timelesscoaching]

With Seven as captain and a good supporting cast (minus Rafi) this show could and should be a no brainer. Been a Trek geek for 50 years. It's very simple. Stop the money excuses and simply make a great show that is worthy of the name Star Trek. I have sat around my living room with a bunch of my friends and come up with great ideas for the show. I find it hard to believe (sadly) that there is nobody in Hollywood smart enough to give us a new show. I love Jeri Ryan (not just in Star Trek, but in all the roles she's played over the years, she's a great actress). But, the fact is she is not getting any younger and at some point (I think) her age will show and as great a character as Seven is, men will lose some interest if they don't do this some time soon.

[@quantumjet253]

This is amazing news. Not completely unexpected, but I don't think anyone can be blamed for assuming it wouldn't happen. We are talking about an industry that has set up numerous next seasons of TV shows, or ending a movie looking like there's another coming, or torn down expensive sets only to have to rebuild them for an unexpected sequel. However, I think at this stage the franchise has proven itself to have an audience, and is likely to last forever. I don't get the issue with Kurtzman. But I'm not a typical Trek fan. I loved the original as a kid. Disliked all the early movies bar the fourth. Enjoyed Generations having never cared to watch TNG! Have never seen DS9, having twice given up on the first episode, with a ten year gap between attempts! Loved Voyager. Enjoyed Enterprise. Hate that theme tune! Watched TNG finally just a few years ago. The first season is the worst Trek I've seen, but eventually got into it. Love Discovery and Picard, and Strange New Worlds is the pinnacle of Trek for me. Oh, and only cared for the last JJ Trek movie. So Trek's a mixed bag of amazing and unwatchable for me. I'm an old new Trek fan I guess. And I'm extremely excited to see Seven's Trek show. What a character, what an actress, what an adventure this could turn out to be. I think having Frakes being involved is an excellent choice. I'm not the biggest fan of his directing, specifically the camera work, but he clearly works well with actors, has a passion for his work, and seems to be a genuinely decent person.

[@allendean9807]

55 years old, no facial surgery, still incredibly beautiful. Jeri, I’ll watch you separate your Damned recycling…bless you, seven of nine, tertiary adjunct of unimatrix 0-1…

[@Stefan-]

Yeah the Klutzman really dumped on Star Trek with Discovery🤮 , Frakes being involved in production and directing could on the other hand certainly never be a bad thing.

[@onlocationkat]

They need to drop Starfleet Academy. It's a bad idea setting it in the Discovery timeline. Setting it in 2324 or in 2404 makes more sense.

[@BizJetTV]

Star Trek Legacy is a must. Have the next gen characters in there and add a few new people along the way BUT also bring in characters from ST Voyager , DS9 and Next Gen. I would,love to see William Shatner return as Kirk. This plan would United older fans in their 50s with their kids and watch as a family, introducing kids to the older Star T4ek shows. overal will produce more eyeballs on all Star Trek shows.

[@susanjames1785]

Am really hoping ST: Legacy brings in Mulgrew as Admiral Janeway on a recurring basis. Would be so fun to watch Seven being contrary with Janeway just like she did on ST: Voyager.

[@bozimmerman]

Yea, all the great Star Trek shows of the past were built around bringing back familiar characters, and then spending time investigating their inner lives in soap-opera like character portrait dramas. That's really what Trek has always been about, right?

[@andrewcurlutu6422]

Yes, well, if Paramount REALLY wants Legacy to succeed, they'll lock Klutzman in a closet for the duration of the production.

[@gyorgyor7765]

Yeah, I suspect your right. With Discovery ending, they need a new Star Trek flagship series, SNWs is too far along and nearing the end of its run give or tale a few seasons, and Starfleet Academy can't fill that role, neither can the cartoons, that leaves Legacy.

[@Starflare5]

Here's what I believe: the Star Trek Legacy will indeed happen. The problem is I think Paramount is focusing too much on the Starfleet Academy series. I already think the series is going to flop. Basically for the biggest reason that nobody really wanted it. I mean let's be honest here. Nobody really wants a Star Trek 90210. In fact I really think that Paramount has not put out trailers or promotions for the series for that reason. In fact we know it's not going to work because Paramount has already canceled series that were actually meant for a younger audience that doesn't really work unless it's on a different network. Technically I think that the academy series is just in between fluff as a possible placeholder for Legacy. The reason, I think that Paramount wants to confirm that Terry Matalas is on board before continuing. Also not to rag on Academy much more, but, people hated Discovery for Jumping the Shark to the 32nd century. People are quite possibly going to hate Academy for taking place in that century as well. Anyway that's just my take on it and what I believe that Paramount is waiting for to do

[@thewarpcore2891]

PLEASE GOD NO NOT STAR FLEET ACADEMY....I can't handle high school musical in space. Discovery was soooo bad, last thing we need is a spin off of a cancelled show with American teens in it.....HELP US ALL

[@Sehlat]

I agree that they've wanted to do Star Trek: Legacy for a long time. But what would have been honest to say? "We hate you bunch of arrogant morons, but we want your money, so you'll get what you want!"? That would have been honest, but it would kill Star Trek: Legacy. So what do we want, honest producers or Star Trek: Legacy?

[@vickyvonlienen3071]

I love Star Trek!! I want to see Legacy happen!! The line-up of stars to act this is fantastic!!!!! Let’s DO it! 🤗🤗❤️✨

[@warmachine9846]

I agree with you that it was a plan thing that they teased that they weren't going to do it to make a snake and clamour for the release of this series to give us a phone. I don't agree that Rafi is a good character I like the actress fine the characters sucks

[@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb]

We need a Titan series, not Enterprise G!

[@mjmeans7983]

I do not want any more Kurtzman or Secret Hideout productions of any kind. If I were in charge, they would be fired in a way that burns all bridges. And if possible, make Kurtzman persona non grata for media work to such an extent that he can't even get work as an employee of a portable toilet cleaner on movie sets. If anyone knows any legal way to remove them from any consideration whatsoever, forever, I hope they do it. To me Kurtzman/Abrams and their production companies are the proverbial third rail. I won't touch anything involved and I'm this close to blocking any channel that even attempts to point out anything positive about their productions. I have such a disdain for Kurtzman/Abrams ilk that I will never again go to any Star Trek or Comic Con convention if any published event or talk promotes them or their productions. Even one public event or talk is enough for me to avoid the entire convention. I'm even considering down voting any NPCs that comment on these videos claiming that Legacy is a good thing for Star Trek.

[@BlueHorde]

I don't think it was Secret Hideout, and Kurtzman, AND Paramount intending to make Legacy all along and manipulating the fans. I think it was Secret Hideout and Kurtzman deliberately setting it up so that the fans would pressure Paramount into approving it. It is what you do when your bosses are idiots.

[@ModestlyAmazing]

Eh still not a fan of this Enterprise A rip off.

[@battlestarmercury]

I agree with you. Let’s make some noise.

[@madquest8]

If Legacy follows Picard season 3 and ditches the real world politics and gives us actual sci fi entertainment, then it might work.

[@Messametti]

Its all like "we have an idea for a new show, lets put some of it in a show already running and see if the fans want it", of course it will come if the people want it because they love our money.

[@T320SNU]

If Paramount have done everything you say, then they will have done a deal with Terry Matalas to have him on side as well. I'm looking forward to it when it happens.

[@richardfortin2232]

Yes I believe you are right and I like that Franks would be heading the shows!

[@wildbill4496]

Academy (aka Stra Trek 90210), the show nobody asked for and few seem to want. I wonder what happens to Legacy if/when Academy fails.

[@Windstorm7x7-wl8ko]

I'm not sure my opinion matters anymore because I stopped watching any new Star Trek after Voyager completed its run. Don't like the direction Discovery and Picard went in the writing so figured, I'm not the "modern" audience the company wants to make a show for. I've heard good things about the season 3 of Picard and while I like to know where a new show will go with the writing, I'll play a wait and see before buying another streaming service. Certainly if other shows worth seeing will be on the streaming service that can help pump up my desire to put that monthly fee down, but it's harder for just one show. Speculating on whether Legacy gets made? I don't know. You need a little bigger budget for shows like this, and people that can tell good Sci-fi stories. If you haven't read Lem's "Microworlds" then even if you're a seasoned ScFi author, you likely haven't done your homework. It shouldn't really be that hard to create shows that appeal to a mass audience. All my friends don't care that much about the Sci-Fi genre but despite all the years of crime procedurals, medical dramas, and westerns they still have an appetite for these genre's. That's not to say their's no interest in Sci-fi or fantasy either. My neighbors are Star Trek fans and my brother in law was even recently persuaded to watch some serious anime fantasy. It's really; "All about the story." Appeal to your broadest audience follow good story telling rules, and all other things being equal, your shows should attract an audience.

[@chrismills1387]

Not holding my breath. But the, Star Trek Legacy, TV show I'd like to see developed wouldn't be centered around a single ship or space station/outpost, but a weekly rotating anthology series that would follow the lives and careers of the different Canon and non-canon characters from past shows, books and games. Such as Captain Elias Vaughn, former Capt of the USS James T. Kirk, who transferred to DS9 in non-canon books. As well as Nog & Dax.

[@JackMelqart]

the issue with J.F, is he was involved with Picard earlyer seasons, and he went along with the garbage.. so i dont know how i feel about letting him do stuff without someone over himh who loved the 90's Trek wiht all its greatrness and flaws, we seen how Patric Stewert influence was a bad for Picards S1 and S2, hes views dont align with 90's Trek anymore. and J.F supported him, and we got two seasons of awfull content, for one thing they where all good story's just not good Star Trek.

[@vernonbutler1970]

I am happy they are doing Star Trek legacy. So I want you to happen for a very long time so i'm very happy😊

[@coramcquarrie6570]

I can’t wait to see Legacy 😊. I will definitely be watching it when it starts up 😮😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

[@dannyboy4629]

709 is the key, Jerry, Ryan, a lot of people want to see her as captain

[@matthewgaudet4064]

Legacy is dead its not happening. Terry went to Disney.

[@TheRealLaughingGravy]

Yep. There is WAY too much money involved in creating a series these days for these decisions to be made in response to fan letter-writing campaigns. Possible in 1968, not possible in 2024. These things are planned years in advance. They're using current series to air pilots for future series. Unless the fan reaction had been overwhelmingly negative for some reason, SNW was going to happen, and so will Legacy - unless external circumstances get in the way (like, who will own the project a year from now, will Paramount+ exist in 2025, etc.)

[@mlbslugger62]

What external circumstances could get in the way is what you are seeing in these comments, negativity. They watch these channels, even this cheap upstart clickbait kind of channel. Content like this doesn't help either. Especially nowadays as you said about costs. Too much bitching by fans that think they are owed something or over use of the term 'fan servicing'. Too much of that will make the powers that be simply shy away from the idea.

[@sherrywallis7718]

How th eheck will they know if the fans want it without our ever getting to see it. i thought I'd want to see Discovery and Picard, but I didn't. I would like to see Legacy. I only watched SNW because it was a new Star Trek and I'm an avid fan, so it was a wonderful surprise.

[@bozimmerman]

Are you as sure about wanting Legacy as you were about wanting Discovery and Picard?

[@samedwards2400]

I just hope they rethink the bridge, it might be cool but its deeply unimpressive on screen

[@doom75x84]

Thx 4 the vid brother 🙏

[@lmrk5705]

Don’t care about the lie aspect. It doesn’t take a Rhode Scholar to figure out these types of machinations. The only thing I’m interested in is Terry Matalas being at the helm. He doesn’t necessarily have to direct the episodes, and I agree that Jonathan Frakes is an excellent director but in the absence of Terry writing it, I have no faith.

[@wingsabre]

Personally, I think legacy will air when SNW ends. Studio executives rarely want two of the same property out with the same name. Because SNW has the enterprise and Legacy has the enterprise G, there’s risk of brand confusion. DS9 initially wanted to call the Defiant the Valiant but was told no because Voyager was in production and they didn’t want two hero ships that started with a V. It’s the same logic.

[@scitrek]

That was the rumour.

[@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb]

Picard season 3 truthfully wasn't all that and a bag of chips (crisps), too many continuity issues, sure it was the best since Star Trek: Enterprise, but Terry was simply not as flawed as Kurtzman, only slightly better, fans need to stop praising him and get honest!

[@qui-gonrick7002]

It definitely relied a lot on fan service, but I can't agree that it was only "slightly" better. Picard S1 & S2 are unwatchable garbage.

[@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb]

@@qui-gonrick7002 I wouldn't say garbage, but they like all modern trek have a lot of problems, Kurtzman being the biggest!

[@LexiaCharterDepartment]

Would like Legacy more than Star Fleet Academy

[@robertheinrich2994]

I'm not sure. I guess there are beancounters who can only be persuaded with a big fan reaction which means money. they don't think in terms like fan service or continuity. that's why discovery was such a mess. it was "let's do something with spock and invent his adoptive sister, let's bring in somebody gay, and whatever". there were very good ideas and certainly a lot of money for special efects, but still, but first of all was an approach that said: let's give the marketing guys a shot. and I'm not sure, if we have left that phase. discovery and picard were the same. there is this big bad thing that will end everything, and during one season they manage to stop it. just for the next season to face an even worse opponent. that's why lower decks and prodigy were such successes. in lower decks, it was everyday life on a starship. the cerritos did not save the universe every time it showed up to some new planet, they tried to solve the mundane problems. and there are good stories that can be told when the universe, the galaxy or just the federation are at ease and not at the brink of extinction.

[@davidlaurahay]

Raffi ? Favorite character? Worst Starfleet officer ever who became a. Junkie? Yea wow great Trek!

[@pavel_checov]

Star Trek died in 2009

[@ThePsychicGamer1]

seriously who wants starfleet academy? why isnt this funding being allocated to star trek legacy?

[@varcal]

Yes bring legacy and Johnathon

[@charliecarstensen6840]

What they need to do is GET RID OF KERTSMAN AND BAD REBOOT AND SOMEONE PLEASE TELL THEM TOO PUT MORE LIGHT ON THE BRIDGE AND HOLE ON SIDE OF THE SHIPS IT NOT A DUNGANNON

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

Would think actually watching Picard S3 on Paramount+ would make more difference. Subs and views🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Atlantian0209]

I don't care much for Strange New Worlds, that train wreck of a musical episode they did ruined it for me.

[@julesw1403]

Conceptually, I thought it was interesting. I had to watch it a second time to appreciate it more. Also, Celia and Zachary can sing! I am impressed.

[@bozimmerman]

Yea, that was disturbing to me also.

[@shaunjp2211]

I'm hoping for legacy it has such a great vibe

[@Carlos0619ASmith]

Well, all of this...sounds practical, but SH is not trusted in my book.

[@Arational]

Kurtzman has lost the plot of the Star Trek. Perhaps he should have to watch the original series non stop Alex deLarge style.

[@nofutureproductions9242]

Gurl POWER!

[@hawkstringfellow]

The networks are going a head with academy show booo. Booo boo

[@nofutureproductions9242]

I'm sorry. History will not judge kindly the low lighting in STP. I cannot watch something I cannot see.

[@Brentsvideojournal]

Give us Star Trek legacy

[@FernsDad]

Hmm... well I'm on a cruise ship with Matalas and Herd (amongst others) in a couple of weeks, so I'll ask them... ;)

[@scitrek]

And I’m sure you’ll get an honest answer 😉

[@Jazzfrezi]

Can never stop hating Kurtzman :D