Extra 330 Inverted Flat/Accelerated Spins

We're planning on making a bunch more content in other aerobatic aircraft, warbirds, taildraggers, jets, etc - so if there's something specific you'd like for us to do, just ask! As talked about in the video, we hardly know what we're doing in front of a camera, but we're happy you're here to share in the calamity!
DISCLAIMER
This video is NOT for training. Editing removed context. It is merely for demonstration and entertainment.

[@therealjimmysworld]

That is the craziest ride I've ever been on!!! Loved every minute of it! "doesn't suck" hahaha

[@bigdaddy3662]

This man is incredibly brave, imagine living in Illinois.

[@chadcoady9025]

Love it here! I've lived in San Diego CA, Naples FL, and Central Illinois. I like it better here in Illinois. I guess I love corn.

[@keithjurena9319]

I would say that calm narration during unlimited aerobatics is AMAZING.

[@markusp1788]

Nicely, calmly narrated even in the g-loads. Definetly thumbs-up content!

[@db5244]

I never thought I would have to say "okay hold off on the "g"s!" What an incredible experience!!

[@ManleyArts]

More Please. Looking up & seeing the ground is one of my favorite things when flying. Except on final.

[@JSFGuy]

I've been on three profile flights in these and it never gets old. I can tolerate all maneuvers and sustained 8G descending turn. Made for it I think.

[@Mr_HellboY]

Coolest pilot I ever seen 🔥

[@signrossi1]

Super video! Like! Very interisting to see the stick moves in the view with the front seat. All looks so easy.

[@steini6771]

Just FAB! Love your calm and tutorial angle. Thanks and greetings from Norway -

[@pauledwards1157]

Those Extra 330s are so much fun!

[@db5244]

You guys were awesome last summer!!

[@aaronhammond7297]

The view from 4:56 would have been the most useful to see during the manoeuvres - what the pilot sees, with the control stick in frame to see the aileron/elevator inputs. Same with the wing view - looking out at the tip rather than in at the aircraft would make this video more useful for chair-flying than as the spectator views often used here. Thanks though, looking forward to more.

[@KW-ip2zz]

Excellent. Great job.

[@TheMopangbend]

4:14 “After that it’s just your normal inverted spin recovery” we all know what that is :-) Nice work wish I had those skills!

[@chuckcarmichael7835]

Cool stuff. I don't care what you say, you are great in front of a camera. Great narration and description.

[@georgejawny7342]

Awesome video! Much more please Jared! How about a torque roll video?

[@vaughnbay]

Great vid! nice narration. maybe some control position cams too... very cool!

[@tedkrzysztofiak2017]

Great content Jared

[@pilotgianni]

This was just awesome to watch! 👌🏻 Amazing tutorial! For the next one it would be nice if you could film also your feet.

[@johncline7518]

Excellent. Would love to see more aerobatic videos.

[@turboromy]

I bet you said "full aft stick" at 2:50 by mistake as it didn't make sense. Repeated a few times and I can clearly see the stick is indeed pulled. Closest thing I've done was a aggravated spin on a Decathlon. I guess flat/accelerated is quite a different monster. Respect. Really wish to go back to this.

[@baderalsulami6114]

Great content!! Would love to see more extra aerobatic content! Can’t wait to see ya guys later this month!

[@CVHvisuals]

Great content. looking forward to the next episode .

[@frankiemae1302]

Very cool! Subscribed. Looking forward to more. I'd say keep em level, but not on this channel! Lol

[@nigelgray3045]

Absolutely fantastic please do more KZbin demonstrations

[@bilbotbaggins1536]

Very cool. Greets from Germany

[@wOoxus]

Been looking for sucg a channel for a while. Keep the great job!

[@IzzyFlys1]

Awesome guys !

[@dalemurray655]

So jealous and would love to see more.

[@highalphaaviation]

Inside Outside Snap, Knife Edge Spin, Ruade, Mulleroid, Lomchevaks, Cravat, Eventail, Rolling Circles. Look forward to flying soon!

[@davidcoppock3017]

would love to see more Pitts Model 12 content

[@gambitaviation]

Coming right up! 😁

[@NateG3678]

This was a great video! Let’s see more

[@user-ej9jq2zf1y]

Wow! I wish your flying club was in the Houston area!!! Really cool!

[@gambitaviation]

We’re a whole flight school! Come and see us! 🙂

[@AllStarExt]

I just found out about you guys from a video on Jimmy's world and I will definitely be heading down in a couple months! Last November I flew all the way to San Diego from Wi to take an aerobic flight because you didn't show up on any of my Google searches

[@gambitaviation]

We look forward to it! 😁😁

[@EricHaskins71]

Love it!!!!! Im just waiting to take my Sport check ride

[@luftwicker07]

Great video. If you're looking to do a few more, I'd love to see a crossover spin demonstration. And it seems impossible to find videos about what can happen when you botch a maneuver ie accelerated stalls at the top of a loop/cuban, falling on your back uncoordinated during a hammerhead, etc.

[@ssairshows]

Here's a crossover spin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmS7o2afbax_d6ssi=DDUg8_7rgkWQgGBU

[@MrWave58]

Me a (ex) pilot myself only say: Very well done!

[@KevinTalbotTV]

love your stunt tutorials, please do them for all the moves :)

[@mikeSierraisking]

Great video, thanks for putting it up.

[@rinzler9775]

Great camera angles and demo. If I was going to be picky, one extra cam showing stick and rudder positions would have topped it off.

[@JSFGuy]

😁... True that, I take my friends flying well they get a barf bag or a go again ticket. The best place to be I says. Secondary is skydiving.

[@larrybattin5918]

Super job. Keep the great content coming.

[@kyenicals]

great personality would be a great teacher no doubt

[@chrisclem4470]

Awesome! Keep the video’s coming!

[@unlimitedaviation8626]

Jerad, well done!!

[@Maverickf22flyer]

Very nice yaw departures! I really enjoy that. How would the "accelerated spin" be defined? You've named it only after pulling full aft stick at close to -80 degrees AoA. Did you feel an increase in rightward yawing moment and yaw rate only after pulling aft stick? I think that the yawing rate increase already happened due to the inputted right roll which raised the right aileron which at a negative AoA on the whole wing of I guess some -100 degrees (air flowing more from the back to front on most of the right wing towards the tip) has generated a backward thrust on the right wing, while the left aileron, at a guessed - 60AoA (guessing that the fuselage's axis relative AoA would be close to an average -80 deg) has generated a forward thrust on the left wing! I mean, I believe that the given aileron input is what caused the yaw rate to increase that high after it was applied and the elevator input didn't do much of a difference, but I'd just like to know from you if this is true! I've been playing that part back and forth trying to visually analyze (but I can be fouled) any further increase in yaw rate since the moment of applying full aft stick as well, but didn't see any difference in the general behavior or motions of the plane. Could you please confirm that there was a difference felt after pulling the stick during the already developed rapid flat spin? Many thanks and I greatly appreciate your answer! I'm asking these because I'm a glider pilot and ex-aerodynamicst assistant at a high speed wind tunnel facility! For me, the laws of physics, aerodynamics and flight dynamics are a great passion to live for! Regards!

[@bawalther]

Great stuff, would love to see more! Hope to become a client eventually

[@uwemuller5170]

Actually your in spin is actually an out-spin aileron command that accelerates the spin. Never mind.

[@airman88a]

Nice video! How about cameras on the controls in the front seat to go along with your narration!

[@djdecember1]

Proud of ya bubs! Jealous!

[@christiangraves9340]

pretty awesome! im woking on cfi currently but acro instruction is what i really want to do

[@Samano1100]

More of these!

[@jsa310]

WOW

[@KeganRitchie]

Please more!

[@uwemuller5170]

Inverted spin with right rudder spins the a/c to the left

[@bartofilms]

Very Cool. Have you ever tried to set up a particular kind of spin similar to this but ended up with an unexpected or different kind of spin?

[@Valentin_MeL]

Wow, that was cool. Not sure if i will be able to repeat to same in Msfs 2020. Right now I can only do in exrtra 330 inverted flight and simple stall recover. What altitude you usually using to do safe aerobatics?

[@tedrankine7086]

wonderful step by step instructions .. lets see more !! and, how can you get your radio/heaset so darn clear and clean sounding ?

[@shooterdude1324]

I can't beleive this video is still up!?! When Spencer Suderman, the guy who holds the world record for inverted flat spins gives feedback that you have presented it wrong you should listen!

[@irgski]

maybe do an exterior shot from another airplane?

[@edcew8236]

Not sure why aft stick in an inverted spin gives acceleration and not recovery...

[@ssairshows]

You can not accelerate an inverted flat spin with aft stick. It simply doesn't work because there is no laminar flow over the wing or horizontal stabilizer like in a regular upright or inverted spin. In fact, the AOA in an inverted flat spin is ~90 degrees. Even your video shows no change in rotation speed when you pull the stick back. It doesn't work in any airplane and I have tried it in many.😮

[@gambitaviation]

Thanks for your input! 😊

[@ssairshows]

@@gambitaviation Happy to help! 🙃 I have put this to the test and documented the results of pulling back the stick in the maneuver. Here is such a video shot in my Pitts S-2B 11 years ago when this fallacy was more pervasive. First I baseline with a normal inverted flat spin, then experiment with pulling back the stick. The plane actually lost some spin rate. I have done this in most all versions of the Extra and the results are the same. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpnJhWudeLR2r5Isi=CaTiLCsBJITdwxHX

[@ssairshows]

Here's another video where I put tufts of yarn on the tail of the plane so the airflow can be visualized. Before and after the spin the airflow is as you would expect from nose to tail. Notice that during the spin the airflow is from the top to the belly as we would expect while falling and spinning inverted. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6XVgauVaMt4qK8si=hwU5gdCn4SV-yJhE

[@gambitaviation]

@@ssairshows Sure looks like it rotates faster with the stick aft! How does one explain with accelerated slipstream, alone, over the elevator creating a shorter lever arm that reduces the moment of inertia along the Z axis? What is the product of that? Bowman et al. Summary of Spin Technology as Related to Light General-Aviation Airplanes, NASA Technical Note D6575 Washington 1971 is a fantastic read and highly recommended. You have to derive a bit to understand some of the content as it comes to inverted spins and asymmetric/symmetric wing characteristics, but you probably get the point. 👍

[@ssairshows]

@@gambitaviation "Sure looks like it rotates faster with the stick aft! ", No it doesn't and your own video shows no difference. What accelerated slipstream over the elevator are you referring to because it doesn't exist? Did you look at the video link I posted showing the tufts of yarn on the tail of my airplane before during and after the spin? It's very clear the airflow goes from nose to tail during flight then top to bottom during the spin, just as one would expect when a plane is falling at around 60-70 mph and slipstream around the fuselage is overcome by the new airflow. In any case I would be glad to analyze YOUR VIDEO frame by frame inserting frames per second timecode during your normal inverted flat spin and during the time you're pulling the stick back. Then I'll perform the calculations so that simple math can tell the story. I'm 100% confident there is no difference hence no increase in spin rate. Please upload that video here: www.dropbox.com/request/kMxN953XdTj17vHi1p1D

[@thomasaltruda]

I find it hard to get it to spin inverted with right rudder, seems to spin easier inverted with left rudder, do you notice that?

[@gambitaviation]

Hey Thomas! That’s in part due to gyroscopic precession!

[@robertd7073]

your nuts jr.

[@kirbyclone3293]

I think I just puked!

[@koreyg5279]

Jesus christ

[@BigWheelHawaii]

Great,,, Enjoyed It,,,,

[@oneiam1533]

Keep it up