Extreme Bull Commander HT Review

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@darkhorseeuc
@darkhorseeuc 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Adam. We sincerely appreciate all of the expertise and hard work you put into these reviews. I wish some of the manufacturers would watch them.
@boostnsvt
@boostnsvt 2 жыл бұрын
What I interpreted this was that it was possibly the best euc youve ridden, except for the pedal height and safety concerns. Wish I could afford it! If I could this wheel would be mine for sure!
@adamguzik9350
@adamguzik9350 2 жыл бұрын
Adam, I absolutely love the wrongway kickstand for the commander. Please patent the stick, hahaha.
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sticky business
@monocyc
@monocyc 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr_wrongway it's a kickstick
@oldretireddude
@oldretireddude 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I also commend your focus on safety, more reviewers should be highlighting this. However, I think your comments on wet weather splashing of the exterior of the wheel and rider may go too far. I agree that no rider wants a debris stripe up their backside, and that should be addressed, but debris below the knees is just a given. The rider needs to dress for the wet weather ride to mitigate this issue. If not acceptable I would suggest a car, you can't even walk in those conditions without this risk. If the manufacturer closed in the tire enough to fix this problem no one would by the wheel; horrible design, impossible to clear debris from wheel cavity, extra weight, and more plastic subject to damage.
@schro265
@schro265 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work, friend. Especially all the focus on safety these past couple months. I was wondering if you think it's worth to make an "EUC safety features" video which could teach us about the different safety features of monowheels in general in one video. I imagine it would encompassing everything like hardware safety (electrical wiring, BMS, motherboard connections, fuses and related) all the way to software (tilt back, temp alarm, overload alarm, customizable or non-customizable alarms and etc). You always mention and explain features as you encounter them when you review wheels but maybe having everything in one video would be very useful for those that are interested or care about the specifics! =) Kind of like a research report video into monowheel safety engineering, haha.
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea :) I’ll think about doing such a video :)
@Andrew-vt4jt
@Andrew-vt4jt 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review! Very thorough and nice that you mention safety hazards.
@monouu8880
@monouu8880 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍👍👍 Please test Commander " HT " vs "HS "
@Michalkonin
@Michalkonin 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the charger I got with the wheel. reported this fact under warranty but I got the answer "No problem as long as it does not exceed 102V" so they don't care about your safety
@freeforester1717
@freeforester1717 2 жыл бұрын
Did you return the wheel to the shop as unsafe?
@Michalkonin
@Michalkonin 2 жыл бұрын
@@freeforester1717 not the charger but defective. but the warranty is not recognized anyway
@ullle66
@ullle66 2 жыл бұрын
Actuallly a charger with 101,2 Volts is about exactly how it should be. A 100,8 Charger would NOT be able to charge your wheel to full! There is resistance from the battery because of the amperage used and also small losses of the BMS. Nothing to worry about. And THEN in the end, not the charger decides about finishing charging. Its the BMS that does! When the wheel reaches 100,8Volt AND the cells are balanced the charger shuts off ot at least should. I recently charged a 42Volt pack with a 84Volt charger….and while i would not advice that to non pros or experts, this also works.
@GingerOnWheels
@GingerOnWheels 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Sooo well done. Love it. I can only imagine how many hours went into filming / editing this.
@kaze6920
@kaze6920 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I think a lot of us in the community are waiting for the Sherman-Killer, and the commander was looking promising but based on your review it obviously still falls short. I think within a year or 2 we might have a decent contender with long range, high power, and smart BMS as well as other safety features.
@privileguan9127
@privileguan9127 2 жыл бұрын
Did someone mention the KingSong S20? No? Ok, I'm outta here..
@seanbrooker5499
@seanbrooker5499 2 жыл бұрын
@@privileguan9127 the S20 looks incredible but it's lacking range right?
@grb1969
@grb1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanbrooker5499 I’m hoping that the battery packs will be swappable on the S20, thereby doubling the use time without adding too much weight. But this is just conjecture.
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh 2 жыл бұрын
RE: Waterproofing improvement. I think it's much cleaner to use a reinforced aluminum tape between shell halves, rather then using silicone.
@xvaldez3284
@xvaldez3284 2 жыл бұрын
Learned the importance of transportation mode when I was on agroup ride and some guys 16x got a flat at the start of the ride. It wouldn't hold air so someone volunteered to carry it back to the workshop and see if they can find out what's wrong. On the way over it turned on while he was carrying it with his hands inside the wheel well so it shredded up his fingers. Thankfully he didn't lose a finger or break anything but he lost a lot of skin and got some nasty rubber burn on there too.
@D-Brow
@D-Brow 2 жыл бұрын
My MSP HT definitely turned on in the box. You can see the deep marred tire gouge in the cardboard. I guess noharm was really done tho
@jc84com
@jc84com 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the look of a used mud and water splattered wheel. The way it should always look.
@Simonisms
@Simonisms 2 жыл бұрын
Great in depth review as always 😊 👍 I'm kind of horrified that there is no transport mode on this wheel, that's just a disaster waiting to happen 🤦‍♂️
@patrickrobert9001
@patrickrobert9001 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love for you to review the eWheels version with upgraded battery packs based on the Samsung 50E. Wondering how many of the associated safety issues are resolved with them.
@Kay0Bot
@Kay0Bot 2 жыл бұрын
All wheels need 50E
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i will probably inclhdde the ewheels pack In the safety announcement- I think they have a beeper each, temperature sensor and more stuff
@CS-se2sy
@CS-se2sy 2 жыл бұрын
Love the kickstand at the beginning, where can I get the same ?
@Teapode
@Teapode 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
It’s my patented StickStand technology. Still in treevelopment
@416-Toronto
@416-Toronto 2 жыл бұрын
....lol, this thing is a death trap. We deserve better. Thanks for the honest review Adam
@yusufcanaktas6929
@yusufcanaktas6929 2 жыл бұрын
I am watching your videos like a Netflix show at this point
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
Woooo! You got the logo!!! Super happy you enjoy them!
@yusufcanaktas6929
@yusufcanaktas6929 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr_wrongway Always...
@user-sn9od2cy4v
@user-sn9od2cy4v 2 жыл бұрын
I also don't understand why they put high capacity cells in a high torque wheel, it supposed to be high current cells for increased torque, right?
@olsonjus
@olsonjus 2 жыл бұрын
With 8 parallel cells the weak link isn't the battery pack. The XT60 connectors will desolder at 200 amps after 10 seconds. 8 parallel M50T cells can easily deliver that level of current for 10 seconds without degrading the cells. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3bHqqafj6aMkJY
@kendrickmenciano1162
@kendrickmenciano1162 2 жыл бұрын
look so fun to ride it but it really muich better if it has a metal tube back and front of extreme bull or you can just install it but it would really gets a lots of time to to do it.
@slainbyblind
@slainbyblind 2 жыл бұрын
the CommanderHS is the best wheel ive ridden to date!
@urbanmythfpv3121
@urbanmythfpv3121 2 жыл бұрын
Could you give some detail as to why ....the hs is a possible purchase for me also... am just debating whether to see how sherman max performs ... For reference my wheels so far is rs ht , sherman v1, exn sport Thanks
@slainbyblind
@slainbyblind 2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanmythfpv3121 faster, more range, better quality... Sherman MAX is just a ht wheel they are two completely different wheels in that aspect, id check out the CommanderHT may be more for you. 😉
@SteryleBandNC
@SteryleBandNC 2 жыл бұрын
Loving my Commander HS as well! The alien rides fan mod has kept it super cool and relatively quiet.
@pawelkolaska1398
@pawelkolaska1398 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteryleBandNC Can you throw a link ?
@Mitudom
@Mitudom 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome info 👌 the best Chanel to get a good reviews ❣️👍and easy to understanding 🙏🏻 Thanks Adam 😊
@illwheel7779
@illwheel7779 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, Adam. We also loved the wheel when testing it on our chanel. It's just got that something that clicks with the rider, hard to describe. Hopefully the quality concerns will be resolved by future upgrades and EB will leave Begode problems behind. BTW Insta helped with the video quality a lot!
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ill Wheel! Yeah I really enjoyed riding this wheel. I didn’t use Insta bin this video :) just the new GoPro hero 10 :)
@illwheel7779
@illwheel7779 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr_wrongway oh yeah, I mixed two videos :) nice quality footage and superb riding nevertheless.
@A-Viking
@A-Viking 8 ай бұрын
Nice. I might be getting the HS version of that wheel at good price.. 3600Wh and 36Kg good range to weight ratio. then I should be able to visit three neignbouring towns that are all around 50km away from Reykjavik and go back on one charge :0) (not all at the same time ofcause)
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 8 ай бұрын
Agree it’s a great weight to range ratio! I was riding it recently and it’s ok!
@mikeintampa250
@mikeintampa250 2 жыл бұрын
I like that kickstand idea, lol!
@silatplayer
@silatplayer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review. Is this comparable to the Sherman Max?
@cascade5682
@cascade5682 2 жыл бұрын
10:08 That's thermal grease between heat sink and mosfet devices.
@Ronin_Ryder
@Ronin_Ryder 2 жыл бұрын
Thats just my opinion but you should encourage people to educate themselves to be able to repair their own wheels instead of keep telling them to be passive and spend hundreds in servicing....especially with eucs that break quite regularly depending on how you ride... Good review though.
@privileguan9127
@privileguan9127 2 жыл бұрын
He has some tear down videos of the more common wheels that can help. Plus, i think it is also a liability issue. tbh, unless it is a "simple" tire swap (as if there is such thing), I'd always send it in. Either to a service or directly to the manufacturer/reseller. I'm not wrecking the device, then get told that insurance won't cover, because I worked on it myself.
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh 2 жыл бұрын
I actually never rode an HT wheel. But in theory they sound unappealing. A really big heavy wheel that peaks at 60? Nah. I like riding 60 on my Sherman and enjoying a great safety margin there. When you can't safely ride 60, riding on the street becomes a very sketchy option.
@darkstar4494
@darkstar4494 2 жыл бұрын
60 is plenty fast for some people. I’d rather have the power at low end to accelerate really hard to 50. Of course fast street riders would rather have top end
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkstar4494 and it is "enough" for me too, but i like it when there is a decent headroom of safety when I ride 60. A wheel that can accelerate faster but still maxes out at 50... Nah I'd rather ride my V11 for its narrow size and suspension and headlight
@ZeroAlligator
@ZeroAlligator 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I love the kickstand stick!
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
That was an idea that sticked
@UnidudeNine
@UnidudeNine 2 жыл бұрын
That first clip was amazing! 😆
@Roskellan
@Roskellan 2 жыл бұрын
Comprehensive balanced review - great stuff :-)
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh 2 жыл бұрын
11:00 look that this good boy, he's so good!
@davidsmith8978
@davidsmith8978 2 жыл бұрын
that's what I like I know all about the bad stuff from the wheel
@jansvoboda9778
@jansvoboda9778 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like vanila sherman need ubgrade rim dimension and increase pedal height something what sherman V2 do. Now sherman max shake market i hope veteran not ruin something on sherman max i have vories about 4x900wh make by 21700 instead of vanila 18650 we need some test to show how perform.
@arevee9429
@arevee9429 2 жыл бұрын
I think I asked this question, but can't seem to find it, so sorry if this is a duplicate post. What is meant by this wheel is "Begode related"? Is it the same wheel listed as the Begode Commander on the EWheels website? I am no expert on EUC's, but in my experience (and I've ridden 4 or 5 different wheels), I do like my Begode RS, fire hazard though it may be. It's not too big, has decent power, and feels pretty good. I also have a V11 and it feels too high. But yes, the build quality seems better.
@darkstar4494
@darkstar4494 2 жыл бұрын
So annoying that toggling the headlight cycles through RGB modes too. They need to use double click to separate them. In order to turn off my light while leaving the wheel on, i must either power down and then power back up, or else cycle through all the RGB modes :(
@slidersgliders5516
@slidersgliders5516 2 жыл бұрын
It's just another Gotway 🔥🤯 . Awesome review video 👍. ✌️ Thanks for keeping it wheel ✌️
@lendavis372
@lendavis372 Жыл бұрын
How do you connect to the speaker. When I click on it in my Bluetooth setting it says I need an app but if I use the app then it can't connect.
@terkelalgevind529
@terkelalgevind529 2 жыл бұрын
1. Safety. 2. Quality. 3. Funfactor. Not 1. Funfactor. 2. Quality. 3. Safety.... A friend almost died rising an Ex.n that cut off because it was to wet inside... He will recover fully, but was so close breaking his spine.... What fun is it shitting in a tube and eating through a tube. Not that fun is what I say. Thus safety first. Always.
@jaimescafegarage4111
@jaimescafegarage4111 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered the Sherman max over this and I think I made the right choice… the max goes 75kph… and now more range and more torque so I’m excited
@volooooo
@volooooo 2 жыл бұрын
Commander HS is better than the Shermax. Commander HT not so much.
@tantan4662
@tantan4662 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude for review Well I don't think it's good for me to get it now probably once upgraded shall consider this.
@mitchellgeisler4577
@mitchellgeisler4577 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! And very thorough! It has some good points, but i don't know if this will be the wheel for me with the safety concerns. Ive been really contemplating putting the Kingsong s20 eagle on preorder.
@optimusprime6453
@optimusprime6453 2 жыл бұрын
😂so the following audience will enjoy the music , that’s odd ! I do like the shape of the commander.
@roytabucanon4349
@roytabucanon4349 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy that same kick stand?
@Swyftboi
@Swyftboi 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Anyone know what train tracking is?
@urbanmythfpv3121
@urbanmythfpv3121 2 жыл бұрын
My understanding is when the wheel gets stuck in the lines of the pavement or road and follows them in there direction instead of the direction your want ... so its like being stuck on a track rather than be free to maneuver as you wish .... i could be wrong of course many countries have different definitions .... hope that helps anyways 🙂
@vitaliy_sc
@vitaliy_sc 2 жыл бұрын
Time Codes pleaseeee😫😫😫😭😭😭 unreal watch
@ZoomRide
@ZoomRide 2 жыл бұрын
nice review as usual
@familytvbox5218
@familytvbox5218 2 жыл бұрын
Finally some truth about this wheel.
@douglashughes2331
@douglashughes2331 2 жыл бұрын
Did I hear you say the top speed is 55 KPH? Not MPH? That is like 34 MPH, 2 more than my V11
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s what I’d say is safe too speed on HT version. You can push more but I wouldn’t recommend it
@jawadmajeedahmed6933
@jawadmajeedahmed6933 Жыл бұрын
Get it!
@privileguan9127
@privileguan9127 2 жыл бұрын
You already won me over with that kickstand. Can I buy this one on an e-market place?
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
You need treesome for that
@euc-mercielago
@euc-mercielago 2 жыл бұрын
are you getting a Sherman Max soon?
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so :D I didn’t talk about it yet with distributors :)
@euc-mercielago
@euc-mercielago 2 жыл бұрын
What is the highest incline the HT climbed?
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
With EXN HT I climbed 45°. I presume the commander HT can do the same
@oddtechman
@oddtechman 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised you have still included this wheel given recent events..... I understand the good points and good to see and hear about them and was very surprised by how well it compares too and betters some modes like the Sherman.. but.. the main question is... is this wheel safer at the end of the day for users than the others you have found issues with from begode..
@freeforester1717
@freeforester1717 2 жыл бұрын
Is it not just a case of guilt by association, so far? I get that the BMS could certainly be improved in terms of safety, but the simple truth is that ALL wheels containing Li-ion batteries are potential fire hazards, and the bumps and bangs that our wheels can and do suffer only serve to increase the risks. If you ride carefully and don’t risk pilot and machine on full send races, jumps and tricks, the risk of crashes and associated fires should be minimised, though NO wheel containing these cells is truly, 100% safe. The only totally safe EUC wheel is the one you don’t buy.
@danoseus
@danoseus 2 жыл бұрын
BMS is always more than fuses. But I don't see real BMS on video, but just some balance boards ...
@stevenruff4925
@stevenruff4925 2 жыл бұрын
Hi,I'm hoping to ride an euc from hastings east Sussex to wales in uk for charity if i can get anyone to sponsor me & wanted to know which wheel you'd recommend & if there is one that would go the distance on one charge,thanks....Steve
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds super cool! I would go with either veteran Sherman (150km range) or King Song 18 XL (around 100km range but lighter ;). If you need any more info write to me via FB or IG :)
@patryk2763
@patryk2763 11 ай бұрын
17:13 gdzie sa te schody?
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 11 ай бұрын
maps.app.goo.gl/de81tLGXCcmS84Gq6?g_st=ic
@taraskin45
@taraskin45 2 жыл бұрын
w/o max voltage battery can't balance. And fuses in battery is bad solution.
@TheDownloader86
@TheDownloader86 2 жыл бұрын
What is really the problem with storage man? You said that BMS has built in short-circuit protection. Why the concern about the fire? I don't get it. OK the batteries are connected in parallel but it can only be a problem if those wires are damaged while riding (very smart chance) but no fire because of that. If you have Inmotion V12 it is 1000x more chance that you will die while riding because of their poor mosfets :-D
@nh281
@nh281 2 жыл бұрын
I emailed alienrides about the battery safety of this wheel vs other begode wheels. I was told that most of the problems came from pulling to many amps through 2 packs in parallel. This one has 4. I want this wheel, but I live in an apartment so I have to consider something else. Also, the balance compared to the veteran sherman has been an issue with some people, the sherman having the better balance.
@pevprague6137
@pevprague6137 2 жыл бұрын
Higher pedals are amazing and about bulkiness - mostly anybody will get used to it pretty quickly.
@mr_wrongway
@mr_wrongway 2 жыл бұрын
The pedals are same height as Sherman!
@pevprague6137
@pevprague6137 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr_wrongway Yeap, maybe Sherman V2, but not V1. V1 has pedals desperately low.
@Franciscogreenday1
@Franciscogreenday1 2 жыл бұрын
😬🤙🏼
@lindomarsantos2370
@lindomarsantos2370 2 жыл бұрын
Bom dia amigo eu gostei dessa bicicleta eletrica
@old_trapper
@old_trapper 2 жыл бұрын
Boreing battery bashing
@kennethroth6757
@kennethroth6757 2 жыл бұрын
Lair
@JohnEnergy2012
@JohnEnergy2012 2 жыл бұрын
So it's a piece of crap.
@justforthetv
@justforthetv 2 жыл бұрын
This thing is junk. In theory this was supposed to be better than the Sherman.. so sad lol
@MrPoliarinis
@MrPoliarinis 2 жыл бұрын
Can't be sure. Keeping in mind that abrams is quite shitty qualify wheel, there is a big chance that sherman max will be downgrade in qualify as well
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