Eye of the Beholder on Commodore 64. Really.

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@retrobitstv
@retrobitstv Жыл бұрын
The game is now available here! eotb64.com/
@JBOpie13
@JBOpie13 Жыл бұрын
Works with the MouSTer, by the way.
@Khodeus
@Khodeus Жыл бұрын
@@JBOpie13 thank you, sir. I was just wondering about it!
@Isoquant
@Isoquant Жыл бұрын
This is unbelievable! They went all out and created a modern retro masterpiece with full mouse support, 2 Mhz support, dual monitor support, lovingly crafted graphics and audio that max out the system's capabilities, and retains the full complexity of the original title... I'm speechless!
@Murrlin27
@Murrlin27 Жыл бұрын
6:40 Fine! You attack the darkness!
@BadManiac
@BadManiac 2 жыл бұрын
This is... I'm speechless. This is incredibly impressive. A single Megahertz and 0.064MB RAM and it does this! Hang on, let me pick my jaw up off the floor...
@rabarebra
@rabarebra Жыл бұрын
You do not realise that you can load another 64kb from a disk image, and another one, and another one, and another? What is so impressive?
@X1L3
@X1L3 Жыл бұрын
@@rabarebra Where's yours?
@rabarebra
@rabarebra Жыл бұрын
@@X1L3 There.
@zacmussatt9267
@zacmussatt9267 Жыл бұрын
An important thing to keep in mind is that 6502 architecture is vastly different than x86. That 1ish MHz clock cycle is used a lot differently. In a way it’s more efficient than say an 8088. Arguably the c64 is a more powerful machine that an 8088 running at I believe around 4mhz.
@demoman1596sh
@demoman1596sh Жыл бұрын
@@rabarebra Bitter for some reason?
@st3ddyman
@st3ddyman 2 жыл бұрын
That's an incredible achievement. It looks even more beautiful running on the C64.
@Charles_Bro-son
@Charles_Bro-son Жыл бұрын
The more muted colour palette fits the dark sewers fantasy dungeon setting well.
@tubejay1
@tubejay1 Жыл бұрын
I never had a C64 or any Commodore, but I have to admit, the SID chip is freaking great. What a cool sounding chip. The raunchy distortion it produces is just so awesome and good sounding.
@retrobitstv
@retrobitstv Жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated to the game but there are some great SID tunes still being made. LukHash recently released a full album for the C64 (it's also on Spotify, etc.) that's amazing! kzbin.infoQgIVV-Zjnbg
@Damaniel3
@Damaniel3 2 жыл бұрын
This whole thing is pretty impressive, but that dual monitor C128 mode is super slick.
@darkridearts
@darkridearts Жыл бұрын
I was legitimately shocked when he got to that part 😅
@t0xcn253
@t0xcn253 Жыл бұрын
I'm SAYING
@datriaxsondor590
@datriaxsondor590 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. If this game had been made back in era, it would've blown people's minds, including my own. XD It looks incredible for the C64. Props to everyone involved with this. Very, very nicely done.
@archieil
@archieil Жыл бұрын
It'd cost $10k ;-)
@Riva1000
@Riva1000 Жыл бұрын
I started making games long time ago on 8bits, then Amiga, then 90s IBM PCs. I know all the tricks. But this, this is next level !
@YourXavier
@YourXavier Жыл бұрын
3:35 That 3d turn is brilliant, considering the time.
@cheater00
@cheater00 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing port. Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention.
@charlesjmouse
@charlesjmouse Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a person of a certain age I have no nostalgia for the C=64 having not owned one BITD ...but I own one now because I am in to retro electronics and it has to be said development for this machine is more vibrant than any other platform - hence regular minor miracles like this. Very well done developers! (I'm finally going to have to build myself a cartridge solution it seems)
@shaolin95
@shaolin95 Жыл бұрын
The c64...such a legend. Insane what some can do with it
@fourthhorseman4531
@fourthhorseman4531 2 жыл бұрын
That is hands down one of the most amazing things I've ever seen! I would not have thought a port of this quality possible. Amazing!
@ArttuTheCat
@ArttuTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
I played EYE OF THE BEHOLDER a lot on my Amiga 500, and the Commodore 64 version of this game looks amazing 😺👍.
@earthlydescent
@earthlydescent 2 жыл бұрын
When developers are given time and resources, the possibilities are endless.
@ian_b
@ian_b 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it's a double edged sword. It can also mean games that never come out whether commercially (Duke Nukem Forever) or particularly in the Kickstarter type scenario. Constraints do tend to mean products get delivered.
@espressomatic
@espressomatic 2 жыл бұрын
Resources being the most important here. This game would not have been possible to make as a commercial product in the C64's production period for a few reasons. The most significant I believe is simply storage requirements for all the assets. Next is the intensive set of development requirements, that at the time of EoB's PC release, would have pushed a C64 port to an unsustainable budget - it would have been commercial suicide for a system past its prime even if the storage didn't make it an impossibility. This is a beautiful port done at a time where all the above (and more) concerns are simply non-issues. Non-commercial in nature, decades of experience doing things with the C64 that no one had time nor budget to explore when developing commercially in the 80's and products like EasyFlash (and compatible devices) offering cheap (and reusable) storage that weren't even a dream in 1991.
@thecappeningchannel515
@thecappeningchannel515 Жыл бұрын
@@espressomatic agreed. This could only work as a labor of love. Not a commercial product.
@LeftoverBeefcake
@LeftoverBeefcake 2 жыл бұрын
Since we have such awesome hardware add-ons available for the C64 now, it's wonderful that people are taking advantage of them like this. I hope this trend continues!
@lauraiss1027
@lauraiss1027 Жыл бұрын
The condition in which your monitors and console are and whole clean setup, is a sight to behold on it's own. Love when retro hardware is being looked after like that. Thank you!
@space302
@space302 Жыл бұрын
I remember having a terrible outdated PC that could barely play anything anymore at that time, yet Eye Of the Beholder was running flawlessly on it, and had way more depth than I expected, I didn't even manage to finish it back then.
@luomotigre2803
@luomotigre2803 Жыл бұрын
Holy moly...Getting my C64 fixed, now! Was superfan of this on Amiga back in the days...and I actually think it looks better in this color palette + there is automap!
@robintst
@robintst Жыл бұрын
I am utterly blown away by the quality of this port. Gotta be honest, I think I like the overall visual presentation of this more than any of the originals.
@TheLastLineLive
@TheLastLineLive Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is super impressive, visually and audibly it's amazing and that dual monitor feature is mind blowing for such an old system.
@Agmanthion
@Agmanthion Жыл бұрын
your wizard looks like he's ready to attack the darkness if needed
@bwgti
@bwgti Жыл бұрын
Everyone in the comments saying how amazing this is seems like an overreaction. It is not. They have taken advantage of every c64/c128 trick and technique imaginable to produce a very, very nice version of this game. It’s the UI that gets me. This was always a huge shortcoming on the more involved c64 games. This version of the music is fantastic on the SID as well. Incredible work.
@Virtualblueart
@Virtualblueart Жыл бұрын
I love how people keep doing amazing things with my favourite old beige breadbin. I would think things like this would be impossible if I didn't see it here.
@YoreHistory
@YoreHistory Жыл бұрын
Just so absolutely stunning and nostalgic for this old Gen Xer to see his beloved C64 able to run a modern version of classic EOTB...what amazing work went into this.
@m0nde
@m0nde 2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough review, thanks for all of your work telling us about this amazing achievement. Super Mario Bros, Sonic and now this, I hope more ports like this come our way on the C64!
@mbrochh82
@mbrochh82 Жыл бұрын
this is one of my earliest childhood memories. I was watching my dad play and my job was to draw a mini map on paper while he traversed the dungeon.
@steveleadbeater8662
@steveleadbeater8662 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed at how well the old hardware is used. I'd have bought this back in the day. Astonishingly good, Andreas may be an alien.
@DLeif-bk3ye
@DLeif-bk3ye Жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible.
@GreySectoid
@GreySectoid 2 жыл бұрын
This game looks incredible.
@mattcole6230
@mattcole6230 Жыл бұрын
Just awesome! The developers must be overwhelmingly proud if this achievement!
@ZZKJ396
@ZZKJ396 Жыл бұрын
This would have been a monster hit back in the day, when there were millions of C64s too... these guys would have been millionaires.
@EFreD-ed4ds
@EFreD-ed4ds Жыл бұрын
Yes, because all the pirates from back in the day are also millionares.
@DanLekin
@DanLekin Жыл бұрын
@@EFreD-ed4ds It would have been a cartridge game - not so easy to copy.
@EFreD-ed4ds
@EFreD-ed4ds Жыл бұрын
@@DanLekin What does that have to do with anything?
@DanLekin
@DanLekin Жыл бұрын
@@EFreD-ed4ds It would have been sold pretty good, even back then when everyone had pirated games. I also had (and still have) a C64 with only a few original games, but if this game would have been this good, I would have considered to buy it and I think many people would had back then.
@EFreD-ed4ds
@EFreD-ed4ds Жыл бұрын
​@@DanLekin It would not have made them millionaires though. Not by a long shot. A cartridge game may be harder to copy, but I don't see how they would manage to distribute it to a large enough market back in the eighties.
@ace942
@ace942 Жыл бұрын
Never had a C64 (Had an Atari 800XL) but it is impressive that on such a small system they were able to create a very faithful recreation of Eye of the Beholder. Thanks for showing the game.
@Virtualblueart
@Virtualblueart Жыл бұрын
I never would have expected this to be possible let alone look and play this well. Amazing!
@rawberg_se
@rawberg_se Жыл бұрын
Achievement unlocked - C64 Ninja Master Coder It's mindblowing!
@andrewloranger
@andrewloranger 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - such an amazing feat getting this ported while making it look and feel true to the original. BRAVO!
@alexandredevert4935
@alexandredevert4935 10 ай бұрын
This is mindbogglingly beautiful
@MrMarianoamigo
@MrMarianoamigo 2 жыл бұрын
love c128 features
@carlchapman4053
@carlchapman4053 Жыл бұрын
This was one on my all time favourites and my absolute best RPG until I got a PC and found Daggerfall but I still think of it even now, 30+ years later.
@zosxavius
@zosxavius Жыл бұрын
This is a masterpiece. Seriously impressive work here.
@TheRememdium
@TheRememdium Жыл бұрын
Oh man! Me and my older brother played this, II and III to bits when we were young and it was a game that stuck with me so many years later, easily a favorite among many. What better game to bring back to life. Imagine having that dual screen with the map back in the day, would have been considered cheating back then. Great work on the re-texturing and everything else to everyone who was involved in this. And great video.
@gardhul
@gardhul 2 жыл бұрын
I'm blown away. Absolutely speechless...
@ridiculous_gaming
@ridiculous_gaming Жыл бұрын
When I first ran Dungeon Master on my ST in 1987, it was simply jaw dropping. Running Eye of the Beholder, which was an Amiga favorite, is inconceivable to imagine running well on an earlier 8 bit.
@stewiedarkinvisibleid
@stewiedarkinvisibleid Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! Incredible! Back in the day, I played Dungeon Master and Eye of the Beholder 1-3 on Amiga. Those were the days!
@mrr8702
@mrr8702 Жыл бұрын
my mouth dropped on the automap on the 2nd monitor, woooow! super cool :)
@gonzo3915
@gonzo3915 Жыл бұрын
This is truly remarkable, thanks for the video good Sir.
@retrobitstv
@retrobitstv Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@codingwithculp
@codingwithculp 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning. Love that one of the characters was named Galstaff.
@glenndoiron9317
@glenndoiron9317 2 жыл бұрын
I cast magic missile on the darkness.
@Ryan-ok2ks
@Ryan-ok2ks Жыл бұрын
I almost choked on my soup when I saw that
@Liquidcadmus
@Liquidcadmus 2 жыл бұрын
This is incredible, makes you really wonder what the C64 is really capable of
@shanilmisra
@shanilmisra Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that I played this game on PC thirty years ago (yes thirty!!!) and even made a walkthrough for it back then. I see the walkthrough still survived (RIP to my hand-drawn maps though), and just reading it again after so many years made me smile. Back then a 'mouse' and the 'internet' were novelties, and it showed. Also I see the walkthrough has garbled characters, and even back then I must have used extended ASCII to draw lines and blocks and so on. Anyway, having owned a VIC-20 I am ASTOUNDED that this game has been released for C-64. Brings back so many fond memories both of the era of the home computer as well as the early days of PC games. Fast forwarding about 8 years through to Baldur's Gate, it shows how much the genre as well as PCs grew in such a short time. Long live this game and the fascination it brought me back then.
@Ephmral
@Ephmral Жыл бұрын
I loved Eye of the beholder game. This, and years later, Morrowind, were huge moments in my gaming life.
@BrettLevin4096
@BrettLevin4096 Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing. It looks beautiful and the dual monitor support is super rad.
@keithbeard7133
@keithbeard7133 Жыл бұрын
Truly, a labour of love and it certainly shows! Thanks for rasing awareness of this project RB!
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work. Shows you how much is possible with enough time and enough memory.
@retro3188
@retro3188 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I love this port!
@ohioterran7374
@ohioterran7374 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is extremely impressive!
@jubsy
@jubsy 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. This is so impressive!
@420glass
@420glass Жыл бұрын
I loved Tunnels of Doom on Ti 99
@agahnimous
@agahnimous Жыл бұрын
Wow, that is jawdroppingly impressive. Who would have thought this possible? Amazing work.
@shaunhall960
@shaunhall960 Жыл бұрын
This was my game back in the day! Incredible skill went into making this game. Thank you so much for doing this video!
@exodous02
@exodous02 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is amazing. Imagine going back in time with this game. I guess it wouldn't be possible with the cart, that kind of space just wasn't possible.
@IndigoIndustrial
@IndigoIndustrial Жыл бұрын
This is an impressive achievement on many levels.
@MirageDU
@MirageDU 2 жыл бұрын
That is just awesome. Imagine showing someone back than what can be achived on this mashine.
@bobfromsoireegames4309
@bobfromsoireegames4309 Жыл бұрын
An incredible port. I wish developers back in the day had had as much time to complete these conversions.
@CorrodedCoder
@CorrodedCoder Жыл бұрын
I can't believe he utilised a second display on the C128 - I had never heard that was even possible!
@sikkepossu
@sikkepossu 2 жыл бұрын
That's unbelieveable how detailed the conversion is. I definitely need to get the boxed version if/when it is published.
@c128stuff
@c128stuff 2 жыл бұрын
Will there be a boxed version? This is a 'fan art' game, which uses copyrighted material. Selling it would be a quick way to get some highly undesirable attention.
@mjy
@mjy 2 жыл бұрын
@@c128stuff "A physical boxed edition is planned to follow."
@retrobitstv
@retrobitstv 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a preview of the custom box art! twitter.com/c64pixels/status/1572552591275597824
@danielmantione
@danielmantione 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrobitstv I applaud that, but I also fear it: This is the point where the project will become commercial and once it becomes commercial it becomes much more likely that the copyright holders of the original game will act to protect their franchise. I hope they can appreciate the fan effort.
@vetodrom
@vetodrom 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielmantione there is a cut between the game and the box. The game will be available as fan-port not connected to the unbranded box (with fanart) and cartridge (which is compatible with eotb). It needs to be seperate to avoid licence issues, but it is IMO a reasonable way to provide a nice physical box for collectors.
@Mclaneinc
@Mclaneinc 2 жыл бұрын
It's not my sort of game, BUT you have to admire the level of work that has gone in to this, Amazing!!
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen Жыл бұрын
10:52 I am Galstaff, Sorcerer of Light!
@pw1169
@pw1169 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for showing this in a CRT!!
@Michael-im5mq
@Michael-im5mq Жыл бұрын
The graphics in a lot of ways actually look better than the original source. And a C128 with dual monitors is an absolute unit.
@thorham1346
@thorham1346 Жыл бұрын
Not really. They're good, but not that good.
@stolz_ar
@stolz_ar Жыл бұрын
Simply amazing. Great video!
@RetroGameStream
@RetroGameStream Жыл бұрын
Dang such a cool project and I really enjoyed how the video was presented. New fan right here!
@realmchat6665
@realmchat6665 Жыл бұрын
Wow, so cool and an amazing accomplishment.
@ShamblerDK
@ShamblerDK Жыл бұрын
I remember playing on my dads C64 back in the 80s. It's got so many great games.
@suadcokljat1045
@suadcokljat1045 Жыл бұрын
Dual monitor feature is great
@TheGunnarRoxen
@TheGunnarRoxen 2 жыл бұрын
That is gorgeous. What an achievement!
@johnny5805
@johnny5805 Жыл бұрын
If it took over 16 years, imagine how utterly optimized that code must be !!
@nomorecontinues6564
@nomorecontinues6564 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview video, well done!
@CommodoreGreg
@CommodoreGreg Жыл бұрын
This is incredible. This is the kind of thing you know is theoretically possible but never, ever expect to see.
@MansBestCat
@MansBestCat Жыл бұрын
Period-correct display, made noone feel old
@manganoid7426
@manganoid7426 Жыл бұрын
This is simply amazing. Not many things leave me in awe these days, yet this left me speechless. Itb would be cool if developers made some original games looking suck like this on c64\128 and make them exclusive for the system :D Thank you for this video :)
@omnibrain3198
@omnibrain3198 Жыл бұрын
I wont switch to an Amiga with incredible games like that still coming out for the C64.
@ScavengerFX
@ScavengerFX Жыл бұрын
This was a great video, thank you!
@toomanymodz
@toomanymodz Жыл бұрын
Amazing work. I'll be buying the box set for sure!
@Lofote
@Lofote Жыл бұрын
06:40 Summoner/volition quote 😉
@michaelhill6453
@michaelhill6453 Жыл бұрын
Jaw dropping! How can such an amazing project be free?
@Mustakari
@Mustakari Жыл бұрын
This game needs a way to use a serial linked 64 to display the map. 128's are quite rare.
@retrobitstv
@retrobitstv Жыл бұрын
Hah that would be cool. Not sure there's any space left in memory to add more features though!
@Charleshawn66
@Charleshawn66 Жыл бұрын
OMG It is out!! It is so good!!!!! Just rewatched your video as a tutorial. TY again for the content!
@WillCooper1
@WillCooper1 Жыл бұрын
That right screen gave me Sword of Fargaol vibes! 🙂
@blackstarafro2
@blackstarafro2 Жыл бұрын
I played this game. I think I still own it.
@cricri593
@cricri593 Жыл бұрын
I remember I had to decode the map files to have the plans of the tunels the games not having a map
@TheMisterGuy
@TheMisterGuy Жыл бұрын
That's incredible. How did they get this to run at a playable rate with graphics that good on that machine? Really impressive.
@stephanan
@stephanan Жыл бұрын
The C64 masters a kind of bank switching. From $8000 to $BFFF, the banks of e.g. an Easyflash are displayed there. All you have to do is write the bank number in $DE00 and it will be active in no time at all.
@subtledemisefox
@subtledemisefox Жыл бұрын
The QoL features make this probably the definitive version of this game
@Microbex
@Microbex Жыл бұрын
If this game existed in the golden days, I would have been in heaven.
@gorber81
@gorber81 2 жыл бұрын
oh, the memories... ☺
@James-fo8rf
@James-fo8rf 6 ай бұрын
Wow amazing port.
@tsuikagura
@tsuikagura 2 жыл бұрын
Oh gawd now I want a mouse, a flash cartridge and 2 monitors. o_o This port is AMAZING!!! Little kid me probably just lost my mind seeing it :D
@whatifindinteresting3067
@whatifindinteresting3067 Жыл бұрын
looks great
@DerDude1977
@DerDude1977 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work on the C64. I don't know how many times I finished it on the Amiga or PC. Still a great game as well as the second part. Technically the C64 port is the best I have ever seen on a C64. Great features with the auto-mapping and the bestiarium too. When it comes to atmosphere EOB 1 to me is still the best "dungeon crawler" of its kind. EOB 2 was great too, but part 1 to me is still the best. Better than all the rest (Dungeon Master, or when it comes to newer games Legend of Grimrock(? - was it called so? I thought it wasn't nearly as good). EOB 1 & 2 had the great quality games from Westwood had back then. EOB 3 was trash as Westwood didn't program it.)
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