F-104G - Flying The Widowmaker [War Thunder]

[@Burboss]

In Germany old folks used to say - "Wanna own the F-104? Just buy a plot of land and wait"

[@derritter3873]

The F-104J is a really similar experience to this, with a similar loadout at 10.7, except once anyone sees you, you will die. You get 0 countermeasures, so if you’re not going Mach or faster, any 9Ls, R60s, or any of the better ir missiles is certain death.

[@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274]

that’s why the G is a meme machine

[@caesar5380]

The S variant didn t have flares until the appearence of the premium variant ahah

[@dodogamer2601]

My grandfather was a mechanic on These in the Luftwaffe back in the 60s. I miss him

[@ThePilotFish-zx4in]

To the history lesson at the start: The F104G Starfighter named Wittwenmacher (Widowmaker) or Erdnagel (peg) was one of the most lethal planes used by the german Luftwaffe, it killed 116 pilots while in service, Also, a german pilot was given the objective of delivering a lifesaving medication to a hospital to save a little girl ( I think that was in Italy, correct me if im wrong) while really bad flight conditions where occuring on that specific day. The pilot still delivered the medication even though he was flying a plane nicknamed widowmaker in the probably worst weather conditions a pilot can face. If I got something wrong you can correct me if you want ;)

[@humphrey10-88]

The Olympus skin is one of the coolest in the game

[@maximilianmustermann1278]

Wikipedia says: 916 f104 in service, 1/3 crashed, 116 pilots lost.

[@whybother7632]

well this is warthunder not real life

[@maximilianmustermann1278]

@@whybother7632 yeah, and?

[@aratay3117]

@@whybother7632 This feels like bait

[@ericpeterson541]

Skill issue

[@bullfango2373]

Spain didnt lose any of their f104s so yeah skill issue at best

[@philipdenormandie1138]

that is an awesome paint job

[@miles5723]

It’s crazy how the German f104G has a 16k repair cost while the Chinese one has a 4k

[@phantom2hell]

the Olympus camo is a ceremonial from the retirement of the type in the HAF from the 336 fighter squadron.. the same and for the Tiger(335 figher squadron) camo in the us 104.. the 104 star fighter is a high altitude high speed interceptor fighter ... it was called widow maker.. for the reason that many people died with that type........ the less looses with the type in a span of 30 years was the HAF that manage to not loose as many as the other operators.... the 104 at the beginning of it carrier had a under eject seat.. non conventional.. cause of the tail.. after some accidents start to get/upgrate to the new 0-0 seat we know to day in the airplanes.. and was special made for the type .. had more juice in the boosters.. cause of the tail...

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

It was only called Widowmaker by the Germans, cause they had more losses of the plane then everyone else that used it combined They continued to try to use it as a strike aircraft instead of what it was designed for It was the failure of the German Air-force that they had so many losses They wouldn’t adapt their strategies and use cases for the airframe, instead just letting pilots slam into the ground A great airframe for its design, a short range, high altitude interceptor

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 I believe the German airforce was looking for a strike aircraft, and the 104 was advertised as one for them

[@bingusbobby5012]

In war-thunder it’s named the bankrupter

[@monkeyman17]

The camo is so sick!!!

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Thats a cool camo! Not JASDF levels of cool but cool anyways! Tho 10.7 is not acceptable to me since it can see 11.7s

[@commandergeokam2868]

This is from the Hellenic air force

[@RogueBeatsARG]

@@commandergeokam2868 yes

[@S_a_b_e_l]

Great video like always!

[@ilyasyaman3794]

Bro you didn't even watch the whole video

[@TonyMC711]

Lol

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Germans: It's a widow makers Everyone else: User error.

[@nigoamigo1831]

the 262 actully was and would be flyable. every early jet had problems the thing with bad manufacturing is that you would know it by the first flight

[@legendbee9579]

Personally I think if you hate the easy pilot blackout so bad you won’t enjoy the ariete, you can pull 9G for 2 seconds with max crew and still lose controll

[@Mr.Tomato_God]

Now it’s at br 11.0… first game I somehow managed to get 3 kills but after that, NONE. I am really struggling in this thing at this br

[@Redfox442]

Love this thing with the Js

[@Hawkeye_Myhawk]

Is it better to talisman and fly this ( the ita version) at 10.7 or the ASA at 11.3? Almost feels its better to have 6 aim9j but better matchmaking than being constantly asswiped by f16 and f14

[@brettwebb6789]

None of the above. Since you mentioned the Italian tree... the F104S is the best one to talisman. It's superior to the F104G thanks to a better engine and even the ability to carry two AIM-7E's, which are insanely fun. No one expects a Starfighter to start slinging SARH's... Anyway, it's also best to talisman since it's going to be going up to Rank VII (but keep its BR), so it will be useful for researching Rank VIII in the very near future. It's also pretty good for grinding events, since it can carry enough bombs (1x2000lb+2xNapalm) to fully destroy a base without hurting its A2A loadout at all, and its fast enough to beat everything else to the bases.

[@Hawkeye_Myhawk]

Thanks :) I think i meant the S too cause the other one has only 2 missiles, but i never flew death pencils so I messed up. Are you sure its going to rank 7? That would be great, no point in the premium f104 then :D

[@javispiq01]

Does the Italian one (104S) have countermeasures? I would talisman the one that has, not the one before. I have played the German one thoroughly, I really really like it

[@brettwebb6789]

@@Hawkeye_Myhawk Absolutely! Also, yes, it's been confirmed that the F104S is going to be moving up to Rank 7. It was posted by Stona on the official forums on December 13, and at that time he said it would happen "after 30 days", so should be within the next few days. On another note, the F104S is really fantastic. Ludicrous speed and acceleration, excellent climb rate, numerous missiles including a couple of good SARH's if you want, and a decent number of countermeasures make it deadly. Just remember, you're basically flying a manned missile. Don't turn, don't dogfight, don't be slow. Dive down on the enemy from space, unleash a flurry of AIM-9J's, and then speed away at Mach 1.5 before anyone even realizes they're under attack. Its speed will keep you alive... It really is incredibly fun to fly, and it's absolutely my favorite high tier jet at the moment, even dethroning the F-8E, which I also love.

[@brettwebb6789]

@@javispiq01 The F104S got countermeasures as of Apex Predators. It didn't have them before then, which was its major weakness. With that, I think it's become the best starfighter for its BR. An upgraded engine over the G, 6 A2A missiles (+SARH missiles), a good bomb loadout, and sufficient countermeasures. It's really incredible to fly and easily my favorite high tier jet at the moment...

[@steffent.6477]

Why is this old thing on such a high BR? Historically it's much older than other planes at that BR.

[@averagesnailgodpraiser3840]

Bribing happened with every nation that used them as far as I know, with Japan being first and others more or less following suit

[@PSX_Kyle]

Crazy that the Chinese F104G is completely similar same br without countermeasures

[@Prisoner4245]

You’re under rated

[@kerotomas1]

Wair a second why the heck does the german and italian F104G has radar while the chinese one not? All 3 of them are 10.7.....I know it has the terrible AIM-7Es while the other two hasn't but flares are the king of high tier.

[@Fotaras06]

Btw the livery exists in real life on a retired f104 of the Hellenic Airforce

[@hubbel6831]

Tankenstein still grinding the jaguar E in the event lol

[@MrJackson12345678909]

Ha jibroni's Great video

[@BosnianWarCriminal]

I got it today for Italy almost every game I’m playing f-14s and die before I even see anything F14 need a nerf or something

[@williamgunter4268]

F14 is fine just fly really low to the ground. You will avoid the bvr missle spam then cam engage. F14 engines are super hot so you can lock on and missle them pretty easily.

[@krysu7777]

video uploaded 3 minutes ago comment 2 minutes ago great video like always

[@Idontknowlol595]

Tankenstein my results came back I’m seizure disorder free :D I’m so happy happy new year let’s hope this new year is good getting back on war thunder I can play one game each day I’m being careful so happy

[@stavbycz6866]

Who win the giveaway?

[@socberttrucker3598]

I wish the Americans got a good version. Not the biggest fan of the AIM9Bs on the F104A/C

[@RogueBeatsARG]

They had irl?

[@manueldelbusto725]

I wouldnt mind them only getting aim 9bs as long as they had flares. F104s without flares are impossible to play.

[@Texas_Engineer_Mike]

No can do. They operated onlyearly versions.

[@ermisrigas5664]

Sup tank watching war thunder live rn

[@Netanya-q4b]

funny how this went from the worst 104 to one of the best lol

[@trevorgoebel1211]

If you wanna record those other games and then voice over them. I wouldn't care, as long as we see a good game and have some good learning opportunities.

[@petr8976]

BRO YOUR VIDEOS MUST BE RECORDED SOME TIME BACK AND THEN YOU UPLOAD THEM BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE THAT WINTER HANGAR

[@hubbel6831]

And? You can see the old event bzw but I see no problem with that

[@Tankenstein]

This one is a few months old. I've got like 20 videos uploaded and ready for release. There were so many things to happen in War Thunder in the last few months that it impeded me from releasing them all in a timely manner

[@petr8976]

@@hubbel6831 Its not problem its jsut interesting

[@petr8976]

@@Tankenstein i like that you got alot of work its totaly ok

[@t00talbr00tal]

jfc that is a stupid paint job 😂

[@manos333]

why is it a stupid paint job ?

[@t00talbr00tal]

because of the way it looks @@manos333

[@onlyarandomusername]

the 104J used to be my favorite, but now it just sits at my hangar looking very sad. i love the EJ KAI more now

[@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274]

I’m half way to EJ i just bought tkx and type 10 i need that for cas

[@shikikanaz4624]

I haven't gotten the Chinese one yet only the a but it's a Shame it doesn't have flares

[@zackwaffen9210]

i guess i didnt win the giveaway lol close to unlocking this one tho so thanks mate

[@pale2502]

5 min in not one kill nice vid

[@Tankenstein]

Not true. About 2.5 minutes into the actual gameplay (4:35 or so), there is a kill, though I had a missile hit an enemy a few milliseconds after an ally hit and killed that same enemy earlier in the video.