F 16 vs MiG 29 - Which would win?

[@Grid88]

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[@AlexandruVataman]

5$

[@robpayne3138]

The pilot having the best day probably wins...

[@rupammedhi9943]

At the end of day, the best pilot will be victorious..

[@dataman1000]

Assume the pilots are equally skilled then. When you compare two or more items the assumption is always that all the other factors are held constant, so this talk of pilot skills doesn't come into play

[@kumarbiradar8704]

It depends on pilot mindset and game how he handles and attacks

[@dataman1000]

the Russians have moved it up a notch with Mig35, its a beast!!

[@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760]

@@dataman1000 f16 viper is better than mig35

[@rs28sarmaticbm75]

Poland: *just chilling with both*

[@ma.s2386]

Lol, we too from Egypt

[@irongamingro2011]

Romania too

[@MS-oe2wr]

Me too in Poland

[@rs28sarmaticbm75]

Oh no, they're attacking again...

[@Elias-xy9kc]

Irongaming RO not yet, Romania didn’t decide yet wether they’ll be purchasing the F-16 or the Saab-jas39 gripen NG, and the COVID-19 has put this sale silent! And Romania has the MiG-21bis, not the MiG-29! Greetings from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦😁✋

[@heathfitzgerald363]

Both jets are beautiful. I flew the F-16 for 8 years. It comes down to the pilot skill to whichever one wins

[@Kai-xs8ol]

I flew f22

[@bluerisk]

I guess the surrounding too: The US has mastered the warfare in a network with other branches, while we witness on the other hand how the Russian branches fail miserably to coordinate their efforts. Also communication and intel is crucial for the success of a mission. A one to one situation, more so a dogfight, has become a rarity in modern aerial warfare. Lastly things like logistics and maintenance.

[@chewie3977]

I flew the space shuttle

[@rm9592]

Not joking, but i really flew mig 29.

[@jamiermathlin]

respect !

[@farshidbazyar6626]

Pilot skill plays the most important role in a confrontation.

[@epicspaces9434]

not really, they will both turn and pull up hard, that's all.

[@josephdurso5894]

That's beside the point. We're comparing aircraft here, so that assumes pilots of equal skill.

[@hugo-di6xm]

​@@josephdurso5894 That's not possible my dear.

[@deltacharlieromeo8252]

It is my first time to see an unbiased comparison between a Russian and an American war machine. Thank God this page exists.

[@nstvm82]

@@drewt9829 hahahahahaha next joke please

[@nstvm82]

@@drewt9829 how young is too young? Lmao

[@nstvm82]

@@drewt9829 well, you are wrong again. The Americans couldn't put together the disassembled aircraft after belenko defected. After the protest being lodged by the soviets , it's shipped back to USSR in a box. BTW if it's primitive , no americans missiles could take it out ever. Guess you remember the much hyped U2 was taken out by the primitive russians. So please don't make unnecessary comparisons , it gives you embarrassments. Also don't up chuck the blatant lies , it won't make you a winner.

[@nstvm82]

@@drewt9829 ....My oh My! Americans never tried to take the piss outta Russians. Were you absent when there's a history class at school? And if you don't know why , I will enlighten you kid: there's this thing called MAD. The Russians developed the world's most powerful hydrogen bomb ever; the name is 'Tsar Bomba'. They have the most powerful ICBM as well: 'Satan ' , cute name indeed, isn't it? They have the Father of all bombs as well (FOAB). No nuclear submarine was ever built anywhere on planet earth other than Soviet Union : 'Akula'. The soviets invented laser and are way too advanced than the flaunting yanks in laser weapon technology. Kiddo, this is a minimum text area for me to educate if I go for every other modern marvels originated in the Soviet Union by the primitive Russians. Better you understand that, there will be no advanced US of A if they dare to mess with the primitive Russians. Needless to say, Russia will cease to exist as well. Bottom line: Don't ever think that you are on the top of the pyramid and better than the others. You're just as unique as everyone else.

[@CedoCCCC123]

Drew T yes, and in rocket technics are the russian 10 years more modern then the us rockets..! The us Airplanes are really in deferent things better, but the russian air defense ist also many ways better then the us..! If we look the tanks, there are the Russian T14 better than the Abrams..! So both sides have things where they are better and bader..! 😀 i hope they never Fight together, because the whole Planet we can Smoke after this war..! 😅

[@sotirismiaris421]

First video Two beautiful fighters👍

[@abdulrahmandarwish2962]

yes

[@lupyks3615]

The person that will win would be the guy staying in a bunker

[@lupyks3615]

@John James yup

[@randomuser5443]

This comment aged like a small dog growing into the best lap warmer

[@MrROOK1123]

But will he ready win?

[@lupyks3615]

Wtf is happening

[@lupyks3615]

@Sal why ?

[@IMAN7THRYLOS]

When Germany was unified, the West German pilots with their Tornados and the East German pilots with their Mig-29s performed joined exercises and mock dogfights. The East German pilots were claiming that they had scored more kills. The West German wouldn't accept these claims. As it turned out to be, the Mig-29 was armed with the short range R-73 Archer short range missile which could kill at a 40 degree angle. This missile had thrust vectoring capabilities. The Germans dissected this missile and later came up with the IRIS-T missile. The point of the story is, that the strength of the platform depends on the strength of the weapons.

[@Lost_Hwasal]

Strength and range.

[@flipadavis]

Yes, radar and missile platforms are very important. But the Tornado is a cold war era long range interceptor designed to catch and kill incoming bombers. It makes a terrible air superiority fighter since that isn't what it is. The Tornado is more like a slower MiG-25 Foxbat. Even if it had the best state of the art radar and missile systems it would still get waxed in a close fight if the pilots are remotely similar in skill which is what you are describing. The Tornado obviously has a chance if it has superior radar and better BVR missile systems since it then wouldn't likely come to a close engagement.

[@god-son-love]

great answer!

[@skparadise3382]

@@flipadavis the problem is that it wasn't just west Germans that experienced this. The Americans trained in Germany regularly due to Germany having MiG-29s. And the east German MiG-29 pilots regularly won against F-16 and F-18s

[@franz9573]

​@@skparadise3382 Erzähl deine Märchen vielleicht in Sachsen aber nicht hier, wer schon ein Hakenkreuz als Avatar hat und eine russische Flagge als Hintergrund, den kann man nur als geistig verwirrt bezeichnen: In english: Tell your fairy tales maybe in Saxony but not here, who already has a swastika as avatar and a Russian flag as background, you can only be considered mentally retarded

[@drianmortiz9375]

Nice video and excellent analysis host, it is not a one sided and fair enough in my own point of view, i am really thankful that i found this wonderful channel, thank you for sharing and more power.

[@Grid88]

Much appreciated!

[@nstvm82]

Unbiased professional analysis ever

[@fahimahmed3732]

lol you got an heart haha

[@sammomin8115]

The only way to know who is better is a paintball fight, so no one gets hurt.

[@papercutpostman1660]

The pilot who drank the least would probably win

[@sequoiahughes8536]

And trained the most.

[@wdaswwqads]

Little did you know a shot of vodka makes a slav better in everything.

[@myusername3689]

@@wdaswwqads That reminds me of Jackie Chan: Drunken master

[@romic2141]

The pilot that's not overweight would probably win

[@clemsonman7]

Funny you say that. When I was in Afghanistan they contracted with a bunch of old russian pilots to bring in our water. They were all flying old Mi-8 Hips. For one thing I never realized how little weight those things could carry. But I swear every one of those birds that came in, the grizzley old russian pilot that flew it was piss drunk and damn near staggering. We had one come in with small arms ammo and he fell out of the cockpit.

[@_AdventureClub_]

Funny coming here just as Poland will handle their MIG29 to Ukraine so that they will receive F16's in exchange.

[@vulturedroid9804]

Cancelled now

[@HannibalLecter-w3r]

@@vulturedroid9804 they are now US property and poles got F16's in exchange. But US doesn't want to give the Mig's to Ukraine.

[@Jerrynyc424]

@@vulturedroid9804 wrong lol

[@iantonnies2869]

​@@vulturedroid9804😢f

[@iantonnies2869]

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[@acr08807]

F-16s have Link 16. That's a huge advantage.

[@tankeriv]

I personally think these two planes are the most equal west vs east matchup possible. It will depend on the pilot skills, situation and tactical usage of the plane that will decide the outcome. The Polish airforce has had the posibillity to test them against each other and they stated that when the pilots where equally good in a dogfight the Mig29 wins. But at long distance engagements they had the better options available on the F-16. But that's a no-brainer since Poland has left the Poland/Russia weapons deal and no longer receives the best and latest options.

[@chewbaccassecretlover12444]

Best radar and rockets

[@alastair9446]

But the F-16 and Mig-29 is multi-role, so in hitting grounds targets I would they the F-16 is better.

[@tankeriv]

@@alastair9446 I hate to be wrong. But I guess I am wrong here. And you are right. So yeah indeed the F16 would be better at attacking ground targets indeed. So all-round the F16 would win as you say. 🙂

[@brianbelton3605]

Larry David also said the "wheel" as an invention.. . sucked. He also said Coffee would fail, as a drink.. . and, also said electric cars (or radios?) would fail! Did Larry David say to bet on Rushher? Hmmmm and NASA can't go to the moon. Its too far.. . . Too Far ! GO UKRAINE! Lets all push and support The Ukraine

[@hurmur9528]

Dogfights are not that common in real life I would gather. It would probably be other factors that are much more important.

[@Weisswurstesser]

The one who hits first.

[@renzovergara3436]

well you aint wrong tho...

[@mohammadrahat8824]

Bangladesh air force having 16 mig 29 Love from Bangladesh ❤

[@abidhasan5721]

এসব কই পাও রে ভাই? মাত্র ৮ টা আছে। 😑 কমেন্ট ডিলিট কর।

[@mohammadrahat8824]

@@abidhasan5721 vi samne 8 ta ase piche kota ase ta janen?

[@ankushsahu2647]

Lots of love from india my brother❤❤👍

[@mohammadrahat8824]

@@ankushsahu2647 love from Bangladesh too ❤ Long live Bangladesh India Friendship 💙❤

[@ohid1262]

Vai amra Jani 8ta ache . 16ta order hoycilo. Ashcilo 8ta . Baki 8ta ex BNP government batil korcilo . Ajonno r asheny

[@kn0wmore126]

Being able to take off from really shabby runways is an advantage that shouldn't be underestimated.

[@greasetrap95]

The intro song is the perfect balance of epic and campy, love it

[@AGC2021]

My country (Romania) had Mig29's a while ago, but the Russians refused to sell us spare parts anymore, so we had to buy used F16's from other countries. My dad flew on the modernized Mig29 Sniper, and now, at the end of his career, is flying on F16 bought from Portugal. He's saying that his Mig was better, even though he wasn't a comunist...

[@florianthomas7852]

Russkie would sell you spare parts, but you have to pay in real currency and not oranges.

[@thathologuy8299]

We have new F16s that are made to go toe-to-toe with modern Russian aircraft. It's the F-16 Block 70

[@AGC2021]

@@florianthomas7852 My country is not in Southern Europe, Africa, Asia or South America, therefore the climate doesn't allow growing orage trees or any other tropical or subtropical plants. Reading a book at least from time to time might help you on long term, you know...

[@florianthomas7852]

@@AGC2021 Did I hurt your proud romanian feelings? I actually read this book here "Britain's 'Political Romance' with Romania in the 1970s" where you can read about Ceausescus generals interest in the british jets, they tried to sign a Memorandum of understanding on the purchase of brandnew Hawker Siddeley Harrier jets. However instead of paying the brits in hard currency like british pound or USD, the romanian government wanted to make an exchange in the delivery of fruits, amongst them were oranges. Pahahahaha.

[@AGC2021]

@@florianthomas7852 I doubt this happened, nobody's stupid enough to buy oranges (since we can't produce them) in order to trade them for something else - why spending money on them instead of spending on the object of interest? If that book exists, it must be full of bullshit. Anyway, after Ceausescu's visit in UK in the 70's, we started to make british BAC 1-11 passanger jets at Brasov, this is the historical fact. Another historical fact: the russians refused to sell us spare parts for Mig29 as a revenge, because we modernized the communication, navigation and armament systems of the old 110 Mig21 fighters we had, in partnership with Elbit (a company from Israel), and not with them. And how do you think we bought the F-16s we have today, with papaya and avocado? :))

[@MrDyhard]

The fact is that we don’t know the capability of these airplanes - military secrets. So we don’t really which airplane has the edge.

[@abdulrahmanshahzad2552]

Indeed

[@gauravdey4163]

@@joemen3332 Well Mig29 has been upgraded a lot

[@MrDyhard]

joe men Germany knows everything about Mig 29’s built in the 1980’s - 40 years ago. The systems and capabilities on a modern day Mig 29, upgraded over and over would be vastly different.

[@nanoatic]

yeah they re must be hiding santa in the back of the cockpit seat #"military secrets"

[@nightofthunder5509]

Exactly only the downgraded export 29s have seen combat until the Russian AF cutting edge ones ones V the USAF cutting edge F16s we wont really know

[@johnchenky]

KZbin warriors never lost so far! They fight to death on KZbin!

[@adam78627]

Funny thing is that the fuckers are immortal. Some times they just fade away.

[@observerrecord2499]

@@adam78627 True, irrespective of what the truth is and what the actual scenario is. These people will fight on KZbin.

[@michaelpage7691]

Please put the comparison data side by side. It's a lot easier with the visual than vocal. Thanks.👍🏻🇦🇺😁

[@Grid88]

Noted!

[@bradmiles8242]

In this fight I think it's going to come down to which pilot is better trained

[@woodman159]

It all depends on how well the pilot was trained and how much air time he has been able to achieve

[@mitropoulosilias]

or how many intercept a pilot have hahah

[@cortney3280]

Russian pilots on average have a few minutes of airtime while Americana are afew days

[@BufanMuayThai]

It settles it then… F16 FTW

[@devrajdevarjunisthebestalw8932]

Mig -29 beast of world fighter jet

[@jcadventure5632]

Yeah all of Iraq mig 29 during operation desert storm destroyed by aging f15e hahaha all of them without lost of single f15e

[@mehrdadrastegar2091]

Hahahahahahaha🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760]

The block 50 f16 win easy ! The Block 70 f16 ist better than mig35

[@philanthropist6969]

F-22 is the best.that is why usa dont sell f-22

[@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760]

@@philanthropist6969 are you stupid? The f16 Block 50 fuck mig29 easy !!! The raptor f22 fuck all russia hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣

[@valshalscott]

Both fighter Jet's are good. But everything depends on Pilot skill.........simply don't waste your time with arguing each other's. Thank you.

[@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760]

F16 ja much better than mig29! Zur f16 Block 70 is better than mig35

[@bfebrian]

give valentino rossi a tricycle, let see if he can out race me with my yamaha motor bike

[@damomguy2801]

Finally someone neutral

[@Daniel-jg8ff]

@@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760 Based on what?

[@RD-gt3ts]

@Oggy what happened bro didnt get enough piss to drink today??

[@vermas4654]

While I don't want to actually say one of them is the better jet.... I like the look of the Mig 29 more, it just screams "I'm dangerous".

[@dinpuiapuia2285]

But f16 looks sleek n sexier 😁

[@vermas4654]

@@dinpuiapuia2285 let's agree to disagree

[@crevis12]

The F-16 looks pregnant with the conforming fuel tanks..

[@Dr.Westside]

There's been 4,600 f-16s built and sold globally . Only 1600 MiG-29s . The F-16 is one of the most successful fighters ever made for a reason .

[@jaimehmejia]

Is a fact F16. Cost/ profit

[@Viper-dn8ix]

An interesting thing I've read is that the MiG-29 has a godly turn radius for the first turn. After that it seems to fall off, whereas the F-16 can sustain a 9G turn for a much longer time. Also I think the test pilots said that the F-16 was able to perform vertical maneuvers better, though I could have misread that. Another thing that goes beyond simply fighter to fighter is command and control. I think the US/NATO AWACS far outclasses the Russian system (this is unfounded and based on anecdote however, so please search for yourself), and would thus allow U.S./NATO forces to engage more easily. I'm no analyst, but these fighters seem so evenly matched it would solely come down to fighter pilot skill in a dogfight. God I hope it never comes to that though.

[@spartanx9293]

Really a sustained 9g turn is all that matters after 9 g's human being start having issues notably they tend to be knocked out

[@sayfolman7752]

The most important part in every aircraft is pilot because if pilot suck no matter how advance your aircraft it useless just like certain country i know new aircraft on mission to attack isis base but miss fired and hit their own soldier but try to hide it from local media thank god someone record it using facebook live when trying to save miss fire victim i think 2 died 8 wounding in that accident

[@lennartgosman3640]

We getting there...

[@fritslyneborg]

I am from the future, and we are almost there!

[@positivepatriot1475]

I personally prefer the Mig-29, that's one sexy plane.

[@slimantarraf1576]

F-35 is more tempting than mig 29

[@positivepatriot1475]

@@slimantarraf1576 If I was choosing the new generation of fighter it would be a close tie between the F22 and the SU-57. And only because I like the larger width of the Su-57

[@positivepatriot1475]

@God Love That is true to a degree. If you buy a Russian export plane, they intentionally downgrade the avionics and systems so it won't be as good as the ones they keep for themselves. So the only good Russian fighter is an actual Russian fighter.

[@KPX-nl4nt]

Russia only has a tiny handful of prototype SU-57s and obviously they aren’t even in front line service. It’s stealth characteristics are poor compared to the F-22. Russia is for more concerned with building low rate prototype aircraft that look aggressive but never had any intention of going into full scale production.

[@KPX-nl4nt]

The F-16 Viper is FAR sexier and more capable than the MiG-29. Of course, I’m a little biased since I’m an F-16 Crew Chief.

[@Seadog..C5]

If comrade Biletnikoff does not have any vodka with breakfast, this is a very close duel. Could go either way

[@Mike-01234]

Just saw interview a USAF pilot who has 2000 hours the Mig-29 in Germany he said the F-16 can maintain higher speeds in 9G radius turning.

[@WiliiamNoTell]

Both are formidable aircraft. I agree with a lot of the other comments. Which is the better of the two pilots probably wins!

[@JkEnterten]

MIG-29 is beast forever ☺️

[@edieisjune]

It’ll never see a one on one. Too many birds flying at the same time.

[@robbertvanrooijen4163]

They did. In 1999 during the Bosnia-Herzegovina war. The F16 won

[@erictayet]

I grew up with these fighter jets. In simulators, if you can squeeze out some AMRAAMs early, F-16 can win. But once you're close, MIG-29 has better turning radius so F-16 has to rely on the Sidewinder's off-bore targeting. That said, the MIG-29's Archer is deadly because of the IRST. When dogfighting, it's all about pilot skills.

[@EbluestarE]

As a North American, Ive ALWAYS respected the Reds’ aerospace engineering. They make some beautiful planes too - especially the su27

[@donjennings9034]

They're always a couple steps behind us. And in the case of the F-15, many steps behind.

[@Lou-ut4jw]

As a aerospace engineer I believe US always has the edge over the Red. Always.

[@gospodinkavurma6523]

Mikoyan❤️🇷🇺

[@mantastic4292]

He’s Armenian!!!!

[@pranaygurnule5666]

@@mantastic4292 Lmao

[@michaelovrutsky5927]

Half Armenian and half Jewish . Mikoyan and Gurevich.

[@Dubanx]

In BVR (long range) the F16 would have a huge advantage due to their superior missiles. They have AIM-120Cs, which have a 2 way data-link and onboard radar. As a result it can guide a missile to the target without giving away that it launched a missile, and the missile will continue to track to the target's last known location and kill them even if the F16 has to turn cold (away). Whereas an R-27ER depends on the MiG's radar to find its target. The F-16 will know exactly when the ER is launched, and the missile will go stupid if the Mig-29 is forced to retreat. The R-77-1 has capabilities much closer to that of the AIM-120c, but sacrifices range/energy to do so. In a guns only dogfight it's very close. Germany still operates MiG-29s from the pre-cold war era and has done a number of training exercises with American F16s. Those cooperative dogfight training exercises show a close range battle between the two can go either way. It almost always comes down to user skill, but 90% of the time battles end long before gun range.

[@gundjaloneko5731]

That depends on terrain features. )))))))

[@jfm.d5180]

This is the answer. Additionally, closer range Fox 2 engagements win with 9Xs and off-boresight. I'm aware that the Archer exists, but I think the 9X performs better in real world testing

[@tetraxis3011]

If you compare a Mig29 A to An F16 block 52 then yes. but compare it to a Mig 29 m then they are equal

[@sickcunthunter]

The MiG-29 Can be outfitted with R-77s, which have a far superior range to the AIM-120, but who knows.

[@BA-jc7nq]

didn't 1 of those missiles just miss a "Chinese" balloon the size of 3 school buses?

[@spinebuster9490]

MIG 29 💪💪💪

[@richardcocks7941]

lmao@urRussiantrash "USAF F-15C vs. IRAF MiG-29 The first air-air kills of the war occurred when two USAF F-15Cs shot down two Iraqi MiG-29s.[2] " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_War#USAF_F-15C_vs._IRAF_MiG-21s

[@n1kko831]

@@richardcocks7941 Don't you think that the pilot’s skills will decide who will win in the battle?

[@richardcocks7941]

NIKKO If you have a trained pilot versus another trained pilot, you could be the Red Baron and it still wouldn’t make a lick of difference if he is in a biplane. Similar, if you have a multi role fighter against an air superiority fighter. That isn’t the point though. The point is F 16 versus MiG 29, as I posted the statistics of the gulf war above.... since none were shot down, versus MiG 23s/21s and 29s which suffered multiple casualties we can already determine what plane is likely better. If they are completely equal, either the USA has such legendary training that automatically turn Joe Shmoe into an air God....or the other pilots are smoking weed and sipping a .40 before they get in their planes....that trained pilots versus trained pilots on an even platform would at least have somewhat of a balance but there is zero.

[@n1kko831]

@@joemen3332 F-16 and MIG-29 are almost identical, the MIG-29 has a 30 mm machine gun and good maneuverability, have you ever watched a parade with MIG-29 at least once? In the air battle MIG-29 in the hands of a good pilot will be able to dodge the F-16 missiles and sit on his tail and just because of the 30 mm machine gun or missiles can destroy the F-16. But again, it all depends on small factors such as: weather, visibility, armament of the aircraft, etc.

[@purushothamreddyp4591]

@@richardcocks7941 true because pilots are Americans. Try ur luck with israel or indian pilots

[@DimbweMazala]

Very good and very objective analysis.

[@rafalwolny7736]

MIG 29 is a absolute ! I saw take off at Ostrava Nato Days. It was incredible !

[@sterben728]

yes it is but the F16 wasn't designed to fight it !

[@samuelsangliankhuma3863]

@@sterben728 nobody talks about f16 here

[@keithfillinger3182]

@@sterben728 I am not saying the F16 is better. However, a lot of people believe a Mig 29 would easily defeat an F18. I watched a channel on KZbin called Ready Room. A former US Navy pilot turned consultant uses a Go Pro to video mock dogfights with Royal Malaysian Air Force. He beat a Mig 29 and SU 30 with an F18. He also said he lost some dogfights to those planes. Anyway, that pilot said a Mig 29 was really easy to spot due to its visible exhaust.

[@elitewavez4768]

The f15 took mig 29 and never lost I'm sure a f16 can do it even better

[@elitewavez4768]

F16 fires missile 1st = wins

[@maximus8746]

it mostly depends on the pilot, but if we look at it objectivelly it really depends: if we compare these planes we have to compare the original version cause both the mig and f-16 have recieved many upgrades with all the years. overall the mig has a slight advantage over hte f16 in many areas due to it being a twin enine plane sucha as climb rate speed and load but again the diferences are so small it deeply depends on the pilot more than the plane itself

[@Wartredis]

Yeah thats Why russians wins we have Best pilots ans cosmonavts ever)

[@KatyushaWarThunder]

Alexander Kilochek sure your pilots are good but your politics are worse

[@IN54ANE]

@@Wartredis your pilots getting exposed in ukraine

[@MicroageHD]

There is much more to this too.. Failure rates, maintenance time, complexity of spare parts production and installation etc...

[@davout5775]

Nah you can't compare insignificant specs like climb rate and speed. These do no matter as missiles are faster than jets. The better avionics win all the time

[@amerashraf7038]

Brilliant Comparison :)

[@HoBBLeCooKiE]

After 10 minutes...... "we still don't have a clue...what do you think??".

[@evilzzzability]

Let's face it, no movie fighter jet confrontation was ever settled BVR.

[@danishmirza3169]

Malaysia with the mig-29: I'll Take your entire stock

[@spartanx9293]

Singapore will buy our f16s

[@leesengwee4692]

Mig 29 cheaper and faster.

[@spartanx9293]

@@leesengwee4692 with a shorter range

[@fazrul78]

@godzilla love sushi our big investor come from america not russia... america cover malaysia against china aggressor in south china sea..where is russia ?no voice at all

[@mikehanlam9518]

Malaysia? Still got engine available meh? I don't know that 🤷‍♂️

[@CSLucasEpic]

The pilot that has more experience and training, and with a ground crew that has given the best maintenance to the aircraft he is piloting, will win.

[@sterben728]

It will always come down to pilot skill and knowledge of their aircraft's capabilities and limitations. However the F16 was never designed to fight the Mig29 in a dogfight, what's the point, it was never going to happen.

[@Ahmed-cn6hj]

@@sterben728 yeah, the f16 is nothing compared to the mig29, hell even I took down 3 f16cs in a mig21bis

[@Msandhu-b1h]

We are going with MIG 29 #L❤VE from 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳....❤❤❤😘

[@georgeshelton5101]

The Lockheed/Martin F-22 Raptor would eat all of their lunches!

[@dongkoys6439]

Its not the plane who wins.. It's the pilot ability to maneuver and that's how it is

[@rogueshadow4960]

Is it just me or are both these jets some of the best looking fighters in the world

[@chucktowne]

Gorgeous designs on both.

[@seniorspaz8754]

Aright, let’s settle this. Someone get Growling Sidewinder to prove who’s the winner

[@684W13]

True that

[@chichopepelopez]

F-16 : 76 wins and 1 loss. MIG-29 : 6 wins and 20 losses. The last air to air combat involving MIG-29 and a US jet fighter was in 1999 ,when one F-15 shot down two MIG-29's with AMRAAM missiles

[@cira90g]

That 1999 when f 117 shot down whit S 125?

[@chichopepelopez]

@@cira90g That wasn't air to air combat and it was pure luck and underestimating by NATO.

[@lazarjovanovic4388]

@@chichopepelopez then why did a b2 also get deatroyed? Its not luck again

[@himvas2005]

Victories against weak opponents and under trained pilots.

[@Packer1290]

The F-16 in all air to air fights in history is 76 wins - 1 loss. Mig-29 6 wins -18 losses Enough said. The one hit? Supposedly by a Greek Mirage 2000.

[@roughneck371]

These 2 planes have faced each other before in Yugoslavia 1999 twice. In both encounters the F16 won. It still doesn't tell which plane is better though as NATO had better situational awareness back then and both kills were BVR.

[@Shulcyo]

Lol Serbian MiG29 at the time were literally falling apart. Without proper maintenance and were going 1 against group of 50 enemy aircrafts. Some of them didnt even have working electronics.

[@bryjb10]

@@Shulcyo and how would you know this ?

[@tetraxis3011]

@@bryjb10 Its public information. And the casualties are contested. Serbia claims it downed 3 F16, 2 F15 and 1 F117. Considering how the west lies about their casualties, stating ridiculously low nimbers or none at all, imma trust the serbs on this one(Exepting the Aerial shootdown of the F117).

[@Sveta7]

​@@bryjb10 Because it makes sense, Yugoslavia was falling apart and was in heavy sanctions so there were more important things than mig 29 maintenance, apart from that pilots themselves admitted it in a documentary "kako se vodio rat", they were even using Motorola walkie-talkies to communicate...

[@davout5775]

Personally I believe F-16 is superior purely because America has always been better than Russia in avionics. F-16 will remain more relevant than Mig-29 having the latest tech and software available for the platform at least.

[@tetraxis3011]

Wow....you are really stupid. First, what are the proofs that The US has always been better than Russia in avionics? Second, The F16 production line wont be around for much more time at all, while the Mig 35(super modern mig 29) is just starting production. You stated 2 things and got them both wrong.

[@davout5775]

@Arijit Biswas That's absolutely fine and very likely. There are European countries that do the same. So India is perfectly capable of doing so

[@BiblicResurces]

bullshit 😂😂😂😂😂

[@acrrono]

@@davout5775 check space achievements of America and Russia

[@davout5775]

@@acrrono What should I check about both countries' achievements in Space?

[@tapankumarsenapati303]

It is not the machine wins, The man behind the machine wins.

[@renzovergara3436]

yes, very wise words.

[@BalzAldrin]

I must admit, the MIG is damn sexy. You can't compare the 2 planes. An F15 would be the proper opponent against an MIG 29. The F16 doesn't stand a chance

[@ghostmofo5829]

Wrong comrad.

[@GaryInSoCal]

Pilot skill WINS... that means the F-16 is the clear winner. The MIG-29 pilots dont go to Top-Gun school... that puts the MIG in the drink... ;)

[@MoskusMoskiferus1611]

Both have Their Own Style, I Respect Both Aircraft Designs

[@waleedmushtaq129]

Apparently Mig-29 seems better .. But the Abilities of Operator does Matter ..👍

[@tadounia01]

The F-16 is an overall better aircraft, so in a dogfight, at least on paper, the f-16 should kick ass, but at the end of the day it could depend on things as little as what the pilot had for breakfast.

[@χσχσ-ν3χ]

@@tadounia01 🤣🤣🤣

[@vegasstrongsanchez7105]

As an American I'll say the Mig seems more dominant. Thats why they built the f-15 Eagle which is more superior than any mig. Just compare the data that we know about. F16 top speed 1320 mph Mig top speed 1490 mph F16 engine power 28,600 Mig engine power 36,684 F-16 Top Altitude 50k ft.. Mig Top Altitude 59"100 ft.. F16 One Engine Mig Two Engines

[@yoboitim7624]

they built the f15 because the VFX program didnt work for the airforce and they wanted a jet that would fit their requirements no because of the mig29

[@calmcometsuop5746]

blyat power stronk

[@mukhrizfadzil1464]

And i think su30 is a lot better than f15

[@vegasstrongsanchez7105]

@@yoboitim7624 what r u talking about? Until the f 15 Eagle the mig 29 was the most dominant aircraft in the sky. Phantoms were getting shot down on site in Vietnam. Americas military had no answer for the Mig at that time and were desperate to produce a mig killer.

[@yoboitim7624]

@@vegasstrongsanchez7105 the mig29 wasnt used in veitnam

[@jaskiratsinghnagra1441]

Mig 29 UPG... All the way!

[@ramirezyoutubeyt2373]

I know YOU are a iraninan But i know that Im a real Fighter pilot I fly an F15 I tried to compare the f16 and Mig 29 And the f16 would win

[@voldemore6300]

Depending on who is behind the steering

[@smifff]

Seems like Ghost Of Kiev is doing pretty good with mig 29

[@detomasopantera1966]

Both beautiful capable and deadly. I think it would depend on the pilot.

[@dasmadhavan]

Its all about the pilot

[@sparnglbarngl7244]

@A B No, the mig is an air superiority fighter. Also, the mig, while having better flight characteristics, has less advanced technology implemented compared to the f-16. If these machines went against eachother with equally skilled pilots, it becomes anyone's game

[@thirdstar9255]

Yeah, but in Iron Eagle, Doug Masters could fire 3 shots from the "30mm cannon" and blow up a tent.

[@svenmauer602]

😂😂😂👍

[@arguywindham1101]

To be fair even a 20mm cannon can rip apart a tent.

[@theylied1776]

For anyone who doesn't know, China's J-20 is nothing more than a redesigned MiG-29. All they did was redesign the airframe.

[@Karl-Benny]

and you know this how

[@mattxgaming4053]

Karl-benny johansson he doesn’t

[@anomalyp8584]

Both are iconic! Just like the spitfire and the messerschmidt

[@stefanstefanov8835]

Of course the pilot skills are the most important. But if need to say which one is better I think it is the Mig 29.

[@observerrecord2499]

That was a fair and unbiased comparison I have heard and seen. The conclusion was that F16 has a very slight edge because of slightly better radar. Now I am not being biased here,, just revealing a truth. In the last 10 months (after this video was made), Mig29 has gone through an unexpected upgraded. Has anyone heard of Mig29 UPG upgrade? Well because of that the slight edge of F16's radar is lost. Now it really and only depends on the Pilots skill.

[@forfun6273]

Let the Americans integrate a mig 29 with their hardware and software and it would be superior. America just has a bigger budget and better technology. But the Russians designed the better barebones plane.

[@Horible4]

@@forfun6273 MiG-29 has a 6-18 combat record (3 MiG-29's get shot down for every kill they get). F-16 has a 76-1 combat record (nearly flawless). Quit overhyping Russian weapon platforms, they're severely overrated.

[@forfun6273]

@@Horible4 yeah who’s been flying each?

[@Horible4]

@@forfun6273 This excuse has been used for 5 generations of Soviet fighters. The MiG-21 also has a losing record at 240 kills to 501 shot down. Are you really going to try to convince me the Russians have been putting poorly trained pilots in their supposedly most formidable fighters for over 60 years? On paper these aircraft are told to be dangerous but when they actually get into combat, they get clobbered. The F-16, F-4, F-15, F-14, all have enjoyed the best combat records of any fighter in history. Not a single Russian aircraft comes close to their level of success. You can't convince me these thing's aren't flying propaganda.

[@stankygeorge]

Both are awesome machines! Who would win, well, that will depend on the pilot and luck!

[@evanwindom3265]

It's really not a good comparison, since their primary roles are different. Why not compare the MiG to the F-15, especially since it's mentioned as the counterpart of the MiG?

[@altergreenhorn]

Counterpart for F 15 is SU 27 not a Mig 29 Mig is a cheaper version of Su 27 primary for export

[@evanwindom3265]

@@altergreenhorn Thanks for the insight. Either way, I don't think comparing the F-16 to either the SU or Mig is necessarily fair. And remember, I didn't say the MiG and the F-15 were comparable -- the video did.

[@greyd.99xsome]

@@altergreenhorn That's not quite true. Russia has currently about 600 Mig 29's in service. As multirole- fighter it has the primarily task to engage enemy fighters. While being a multirole fighter as well, the Su 27 has the task to intercept enemy bombers and to give long range escort for their own bombers. Both planes went into export but Russia exports are kind of downgraded variants, keeping the better versions for their own Air Force.

[@erhanjaved5903]

Automated Voice: "The MiG 29 is a Legendary Fighter Jet". F-16VIPER:"Hahaha, Nice Joke Bro".

[@gordonsmith5589]

The smoke trail coming out of the MiG-29’s will make it lose.

[@minilabyrinth]

I used to load weapons on F16, its the tiniest fighter jet in the airforce, so fast and agile. A 6 ft adult male will hit their forehead on the wings if they walk upright

[@manoranjanrath295]

Dog fight mig will win,but depending on pilot.

[@richardcocks7941]

Two of them after engaging an F 15, not even a 16 got btfo'd lmao en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_War#USAF_F-15C_vs._IRAF_MiG-21s Man them mig29s and 21s are trash fam :^)

[@MyWorld-rl7lm]

Mig down LIKE abhi nandan mig down by PAF.HEHEHE

[@prabhanshutripathi8480]

@@MyWorld-rl7lm F 16 down by mig 21 ... tch tch tch.moreover 300 out of the world. Imagine if our mig 21 shoots your (i mean USA's , you guys cant afford it) F16. Then what would rafale do

[@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760]

F16 win easy vs mig29 ! F16 block 70 fuck mig35 !!

[@justinsimmonds5674]

Very interesting video. These two jets are pretty competitive when the facts are presented. I think at the end of the day the real question is which pilot has better skill?

[@TheGhadanfer]

MIG 29 equiped with TDI engine

[@GoodMoneon]

Ahhahahahahha

[@sharvan456]

Mig-29 all day everyday, due to it's superior manuverability and combat capabilities!

[@MrPatch25]

Pilot

[@johnconrad5487]

Wont be long now... Presently Syrian Air Force is attacking targets in Idlib and Turkey is trying to protect the Idlib targets. So first we shall see Turkish F16 vs Syrian MIG29. If the aircraft are equal then it is up to the pilots. Then it depends upon the Syrian Air Force if they want to take on the Israeli AF which is attacking Iranian targets in Syria using F-16s and F-15s.. So the real life answer to this question will be coming soon.

[@13JB007]

Possible but I think it will be more around Turkish f16 against some sams Syria is in war long time and pilots are not well trained in general plus new migs are deployed no more infos about its trainings equipment etc and for Israels f15 f16 they doing some serious tactics i think it will take some more time to be hold down

[@purushothamreddyp4591]

@@13JB007 yes Israeli pilots are better trained with excellent skills and a kill motto

[@maxbeboid6374]

As a syrian let me drop some truth bombs: 1_ Israeli AF are attacking all military targets (syrian iranian) except Russian. Russia wont let syrian AF or AA defences retaliate fearing political problems with the US (mostly because the US are waiting for a reason to tighten the noose on syria in any way they can) and israel are staying away from Russian targets for the same reason so syrain MIGs taking on Israeli F16s is not happening. 3_turkey actually crossed the syrian border and are occupying syrian grounds but Russia wont let syria do anything for the same reasons as above and syrian AF is not going near idlib russian AF are bombing a few terrorist targets far from the Turkey occupied zones. 4_even if things escalate to all out war levels(extremely unlikely) Syria has a shit air force but enough AA missiles with so many types that they would give even the US air force pause(not enough to beat it back but enough to incur seriouse losses) so 90% of engagements would be AA missiles vs planes not dog fights. In conclusion Russia the USA turkey and israel are having themselves a cold war rematch while us Syrians are slaughtered robbed and economically starved for absolutely no fault of our own BuT You KnOW tHe UsA ANd rUSsiA GoTta fiGHt OVeR DaT OiL sO FuCk Us RiGhT.

[@mxy_3d1ts]

The mig-29 is kinda a copy of a a F-18 hornet

[@mrp111]

It's the opposite 29 came before f18 nearly 4 year gap

[@nickstoic2944]

And the winner is...the one that locks the other first and presses the firing button.

[@ralfhtg1056]

I remember an article I read back in 2004 when Germany retired its MiG 29. In that article a british Major, an F-18 pilot, said: "I felt like a lamb that had been locked up in a telephone box with a pack of Pitbulls." A German Lieutenant Colonel, piloting the Mig 29 said that beyond visual range the Mig is vulnerable. But he also added: "Within visual range I am invincible." There was also a part about a maneuver. American F-16s and German MiGs against each other. Due to kill removals being appointed in the rules, the F-16 pilots remained in the game even when they were shot down. In the briefing after landing they absolutely refused to accept that the F-16 has been shot down 65 times, while they were only able to shoot down some 18 MiGs. Out of protest / disbelief the American pilots left the briefing room. A Colonel of the USAF added: "A German Pilot on a Mig 29 is our worst case scenario:" This should tell enough. Especially when taking into consideration that the Mig has a helmet mounted targeting device so it can fire its rockets without having the nose pointed to the target. Not sure if the F-16 meanwhile has such a system or not.

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@karlosgomes1419 😂 keep on dreaming

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@karlosgomes1419 as I said: keep on dreaming 😆

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@karlosgomes1419 in Ukraine it is MiG (russian) against MiG (ukrainian). Pilot against Pilot. Of course thr MiG has its flaws, no doubt. But it is a formidable fighter jet. Or did you really think Ukraine uses western jets?

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@karlosgomes1419 so what? A low flying F16 is just as vulnerable to SAMs like the MiG. So what? We do not talk about groundfighting capabilities of the jet, but about its dogfight capabilities against other jets. You talk about a whole different story.

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@karlosgomes1419 The reason why russian Air Force is doing so bad is the lack of money, resulting in a lack of training and the lack of propper maintainence of equipment. This combined with lack of planning and strategy. And you erronously interpret this as sign of crappy technology. The German Luftwaffe showed what a well maintained MiG 29 with a well trained pilot is capable of. That is all what I have said. Keep your hysteric and biased phobias for yourself. I would be happy if Putin was gone! So I see no reason to cry in that case! I have friends on both sides of the conflict. Both sides are suffering because of the madness of a few people. The average people in Russia who have contact with people outside Russia, do not want this war at all. Russia ≠ Putin, Belarus ≠ Lukashenko, just as Germany ≠ Hitler. An intelligent person would know this. But you know what? Keep boiling your head in your own exsudations and leave me alone.

[@StrangeletCR]

"Shoot 'em, Pookie! Shoot 'em!"

[@Damitsall]

I was actually thinking of the time Pink Guy first encountered the Tap Brothers.

[@ZinXlX]

With how the 2 aircrafts are near identical performance-wise I guess it just comes down to how good (or lucky) the Pilots are.

[@sazalimdnoor4138]

For information Indonesian with f-16 and Malaysia is Mig-29. We are one the nusantara (NAF)..

[@robertcampbelljr.3195]

It's not the plane, IT'S THE PILOT!!!!🤘😁🇺🇸

[@notmenotme614]

Which would win? …. The Ghost of Kiev would win

[@dmillionaire7]

For the money, the Mig will get my vote Oh did i mention i am american And the Mig vs the F16 (my personal fav) as a no brainer in a pure dog fight of equal skilled fighter pilot: Mig win...

[@dmillionaire7]

35m=F-16 23.7m=Mig29 even then its gone be mean dogfight, no quarters given or taken ;-\

[@funnymakerboy4199]

Each aircraft has its pros and cons

[@adhd_with_pennies4867]

It's all fun in games till someone gets a camera and laser screen tv and project the background to make the aircraft a active camouflage Then disable it when there about to strike lol

[@GegTosk]

God Bless America🇺🇸🇦🇱

[@sweetroscoeful]

Super maneuverability has never been clearly established to give an edge, since in order to perform such maneuvers requires tremendous loss of energy. It probably comes down to if the fighters engage in a 1 or 2 circle fight, my guess that the f-16 wins the 2 circle fight while the mig 29 will have an advantage in a 1. If the F-16 keeps the energy up, he wins. If he get's slow, the Mig has the advantage.

[@joshuareed6894]

The average person doesn’t understand dogfights are about energy management.

[@franciscokayo3250]

The supermaneuverabilty it better for avoid missiles and make radar track difficult now a days.

[@joshthemigpro1733]

F16 is the better 1 circle fighter Mig 29 is better at 2 circles But only just

[@reedrk88t]

2 very different airframes and it would depend on the pilot not the airframe.

[@gone547]

In the end it all comes down to weapons systems.

[@kapasayskonichwa6646]

The best piolet survive that's it

[@gone547]

@@kapasayskonichwa6646 Crap. Some of the best pilots in WW2 and other conflicts were shot out of the sky by inexperienced pilots simply because they were flying superior aircraft with superior weaponry. Put two pilots in the same aircraft then the best pilot will prevail.

[@gone547]

@Юрий Тойкичев my only comment is, you best stay out of the airforce if that is what you believe.