F-22 Raptor Vs F-15EX Eagle | Behind Enemy Lines | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@hurbiehusker2484]

F2. 2 versus F3 5 please like just head on long range fight maybe

[@Geno-The-Butcher17]

F8 crusader please... it's literally called the last gun fighter

[@icylemur2258]

F-22 vs. entire Lebanese Air Force? Pls

[@RoanLinders]

day 71 of asking for su35 vs f35

[@SeanDring]

F22 with F-15 as missile trucks. Can DCS simulate this? F22 up front with Eagles behind (out of range). I'd be cool to see TALDs used in a dogfight :-)

[@remain_]

F-15: "Kid, I've been around fifty years. Over a hundred kills, no defeats. What have you got?" F-22: "I killed a balloon once..."

[@remain_]

I love the Raptor but the Eagle is the OG. Can't wait for some F-15 against an entire airforce content. The arsenal it carries is ridiculous.

[@Outlaw_Actual11b]

Actually in an exercise, the F22 killed the F15 41-1.

[@remain_]

F-22: "And I pretend killed you a bunch of times."

[@galendetta2334]

Killed several f-15s in training before the 15s could figure out where it was

[@albanianwolf316]

@@galendetta2334only because better radar, put that f-22 radar on f-15ex and it will be better then f-22

[@RiesLP]

How many missiles can you carry? F15EX: Yes!

[@chrismaverick9828]

ALL of them.

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

For the F-15EX, I would just start lobbing missiles just before getting into range. Three for each volley.

[@kurttank3081]

16

[@michaelpetty8416]

I was wondering why he died still carrying all those missiles. You die when you’re out of weapons not carrying them down to make a bigger boom. 😒🤔

[@deathsheadknight2137]

@stanger427 MANRAM

[@dvaritek434]

Just shows how powerful triangulation is. Locking an f22 at 40+ miles is no joke

[@colinmarshall6634]

Probably what Russia/China means when they say they can see stealth. Doesn't mean they can shoot at it, but they probably can see it.

[@ausinasmith96]

​@colinmarshall6634 you basically see an anomaly from what I hear Something very small moving extremely fast popping in and out of radar 100 miles and then suddenly it closed 20 miles after it dropped off radar for a little

[@unknownname6519]

​@@colinmarshall6634thats how serbia shot down a f117

[@erasmus_locke]

Also shows the F-15 didn't know what it was doing. Two AWACS and a patriot site.... It had every advantage but wasted it all by over extending and getting too aggressive

[@smith7602]

That was more of a command folly. The Nighthawk flew the same path every mission. Bombed the same targets too. Made it easier for the Serbians to figure out when the plane would come by and when it would have it's doors open and stealth compromised. What good is low observability if your enemy already knows where you are.

[@miletello1]

Taking out both AWACS before killing him was mad disrespectful 😂

[@yanbo2u]

contempt at maximum.

[@theghostgeneral]

I look at it a different way. The EX had shown it was too much of a threat with it, so it was actually a show of respect lol

[@EvoraGT430]

Strategically it would have been a huge win even if lost to the F-15. AWACS are super-high value assets.

[@amazin7006]

It was probably necessary given the jamming those things are capable of. The f22 would have to get even closer to the f15

[@miletello1]

@@theghostgeneral na it wasn’t TOO MUCH of a threat. It was just more of a threat than the Raptor is used to….a slight indignation if you will. The fact is no other aircraft (MAYBE F-35) would have gotten to those AWACS.

[@kinch613]

The maneuverability of the EX is insane from a 50 year old platform. That Dubai air show was sick AF!

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Well, it IS an amped up version of the F-15C. But with the added ability to carry a ton of missiles. The EX is to the F-15C what the SuperHornet is to the Hornet. Better Engines Better Radar Better AoA Better Rate Fight Better Maneuverability Better Payload Better RCS It's just a juiced up F-15C and that's a terrifying prospect considering how good the C was.

[@yichuanshih4719]

And it's carry 16 missiles while doing those maneuvers, just incredible.

[@Bryce-yw8hf]

well, F-15E, which makes its manuverability improvement even more impressive@@ObiWanShinobi917

[@dreaminknight]

It s agile with FBW but not with 16 AMRAAMs.

[@NathanIrizarry1]

To be fair physics don’t change, not in 50 years, not in a 1000 either. CFD tech was already in use in the times of the F15’s design.

[@ed4709]

Now do reverse roles and fly the F15EX against the F22. Awesome video as always. 👍🏼

[@SDBDUB]

Dude, that F-15 gave the Raptor one hell of a fight! It's incredibly rare to see you that defensive in the F-22.

[@dreaminknight]

It is not defensive. GS was just playing with the little Eagle..

[@RS-oq4wu]

But with TWO awacs!

[@andrewkrodel7976]

I think we need a video of the F-15EX against the J20. A missile truck battle!

[@Jst4vdeos]

Probably need a couple j20s

[@Dontbeweak123]

He already did f15e against a j20

[@Jst4vdeos]

@@rbrtck not internally where it's stealth is it's biggest asset

[@BouillaBased]

A Hawkeye in a one-circle fight with a Raptor? Talk about seal clubbing!

[@dingmingzou9866]

yea that was nuts

[@LenzPhotography]

My local Air national guard in Portland Oregon is apparently getting the first F-15ex’s next year.

[@johnandrewmunroe]

That empty bay flash at the end was better than all the flares in the world. Great mission!

[@BradySandlin1102]

Man Growling Sidewinder is such an amazing pilot. I love these type of videos

[@Obama_Triange]

im quite disappointed that f15 still had like 8 or 4 amraams left, couldnt make sure how much for sure, but damn, i will say that he shouldve employed the SPAMRAAM tactic, wouldve been entertaining to watch you defend like 12 missiles LOL

[@spacebound1969]

Yes indeed, if I was up against a 22 I'd make sure I died with no missiles left on the rack

[@LeonAust]

Its a dated design what did you expect. That aircraft should never been still in production.

[@Please_Hydrate25]

Cost effectiveness is important ​@@LeonAust

[@LeonAust]

@@Please_Hydrate25 Check it up ..the F-35 is cheaper than the F-15EX. The F-35 is superior on levels that count in modern warfare - Stealth, Network, DAS situational awareness. Current wargames give the F-35 a win ratio of 7 to 1 over current F-16C, F-15C & E. The RAAF, RAF and other nations confirming the same result's over super hornets, Eurofighters etc..

[@GoodGuyRuska-]

@@LeonAust and when the AO is clear you can send EX's with the ability to carry massive payloads paired with f-35's datalink is a lethal combo

[@evensteven1442]

0:37 the amount of AMRAAMs on that F-15 is insane 🤯😂

[@spartan9458]

@@rbrtck My understanding is that they use Weapons pods for the F22, so they are "Stealthy" pods with stealth coatings and special shapes... but even still it reduces the stealth a LOT.

[@MD-wn4ui]

That AN/APG-81 radar goes hard.

[@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am]

I mean, it does, but, neither of the planes in the video planes use it.

[@MD-wn4ui]

@@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am an APG82*

[@Nick-rb1vk]

When I read F-22 I don’t care what comes next. I click!

[@Crocodile-ro4xr]

Same

[@Andyiswatching]

Same here

[@_.incredible_magnum._291]

I take it you really like the f22

[@someprick7705]

@@_.incredible_magnum._291 like is a rather weak word. It’s only the scariest thing to fly since wasps and coincidentally has a similar RCS.

[@_.incredible_magnum._291]

@@someprick7705 sir... This plane came out in the 90s. Do you really think the US government hasn't upgrade or made a better plane?

[@Strigon008]

Sad AWACS noises, I fucking lost it.

[@ItzRetro2019]

Man that EX is a missile truck!!!

[@doxydoxdelamanca9902]

That F15ex is a flying Patriot system.

[@jimreynolds2837]

I love these videos. We see a lot of F14, F15, F16 and F22. I think some Super Hornet videos would be good.

[@Durzo1259]

I'd say it's all 95% F-14 and F-22 videos. The 15 especially has been really neglected.

[@miket3342]

I do like how optimistic DCS is. The thought that a crew could perform a bail out out of large aircraft that is spinning out of control while in a nose dive gives me a warm fuzzy. 😂

[@Les.The.Occasional.Aviator]

I love these videos, but with my 2 favorite fighters going head to head, I didn't know who to root for minute by minute! Well Done!

[@user-fw2dd2cy3c]

Mine too--but I was rooting for the Eagle all the way!

[@danielayers3054]

Damn!!! You are good man. I love watching you do what you do, I was in the Army worked on tracked vehicles and always A-10’s buzzing overhead and always wondered what it was like to be in one...same with every other plane you’ve ever been in so thank you very much for such a great experience... I love just about anything that fly’s

[@30AndHatingIt]

Sad seeing the big birds going down :( Hope everyone got out.

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

You can see the pilots and crew all chuting as it went down

[@macgyver186]

Going after his awacs was a power move.

[@fortisone1416]

Since the F-15EX can maintain lock with its onboard radar but the AIM-120 cant, what would happen if the F-15EX were to use FOX-1’s along with AIM-120?

[@icaleinns6233]

wow, that was IMPRESSIVE! Almost stacked up against the Raptor like a training exercise!

[@SPUNLEE]

GS is definitely now a fan boy of the F22 and really who isn't. Good content and info. Thanks

[@theotherguy982]

Would like to see F-35 lead plus 2 loaded F-15EX vs. entire N. Korean air force.

[@Christopher-cr7pw]

I'm surprised he didn't triple Tap you seeing how many missiles he had.

[@allenarneson4349]

Excellent video GS. Enjoyed all of it Your flight skills and knowledge absolutely make you the best!!.

[@JJJackson-lz1te]

Definitely need an "All Out" banner for the internal weapons bay!

[@farmergeo5374]

A kilroy was here, or a chalk drawing of an airman mooning the viewers. All Out works too.

[@cloudywh1te904]

Thanks Growling Sidewinder for ALWAYS keeping us entertained with new content lad. Love ya and keep up the good work.

[@w0mblemania]

Question: would it even be physically possible to escape from that spiralling Hawkeye?

[@user-fw2dd2cy3c]

was wondering the same thing

[@deadlygrounds]

Please bring back the chrome Raptor!

[@JuJu-fi8oo]

Wow! What a treat for me watching two of your vids back to back. Keep it up, man!

[@Mohab7274]

Its surprising to see the F-15EX being the one bossing the fight most of the time. I would really think it would easily kill the F-22 if you were the one flying it.

[@elijahyeboah4331]

Imagine 2 EXs one firing while the other defends. No opportunity to turn hot and having to constantly defend. I think this is how the USAF will employ these missile trucks. Would be interesting to see multiple eastern low observables with hypersonics vs multiple F-15 EXs.

[@JJJackson-lz1te]

Excellent tactics adaptation after the first AMRAAM engagements to go after the E-2 and E-3.

[@FS2K4Pilot]

It sounded like he was locking you up at 15 miles. I wonder why he didn’t spam you with every Slammer he had left?

[@tristanbrashear6201]

Now what if it was three F-15EX’s??

[@josmith2062]

That was my fav video you've made yet! I'm a HUGE Raptor fan. Was on the edge my seat the whole time! LOVED it! ♥😍👏👏

[@rjg02005]

Damn, that is a lot of missiles.

[@anukritsaxena6328]

We'd love to see the rematch, but with GS having F15EX :)

[@9.2956AU]

F-15EX put up a hell of a fight, this was a very good video, good job both pilots.

[@diegoruiz7600]

Would like to see more mission bases videos, maybe some multi crew stuff would be fun

[@erikcourtney1834]

GS with a Raptor is almost invincible.

[@optimalbass]

Very good educational video too. Lots of explanations. Well done.

[@arkie87]

F15EX: I heard you like AMRAAMs so I put AMRAAMs on your AMRAAMs

[@becausereasons8981]

Looked like a very difficult win. I love these fighters.

[@donkeyballs3081]

Unparalleled skills. I really enjoyed this one

[@chairmankaga101]

Man, the EX with AIM260s is gonna be a nightmare (for the other guy).

[@dreaminknight]

Unless the other is a F-35 or F-22 or is equipped with the Meteor..

[@deathsheadknight2137]

I like the idea of asymmetrical dogfight scenarios!

[@jayvee8502]

GS: "Now you know how it feels" Remembering the time he got back stabbed by an F22 while in a F15ex.

[@deanspanos8210]

The canted tails from the silent eagle provided some benefits. Why weren't they kept?

[@MatthewTyreeKS]

That was my thought as well. I'm wondering if that will be a later update?

[@andreabindolini7452]

That was only a dead Boeing proposal, little more than a commercial. Unsatisfactory cost-benefit ratio.

[@tomhadders9511]

Do you have a video that explains and shows what we’re looking at in the cockpit? What are the different instruments? How does each one work etc. More for my own understanding more than anything

[@jonathanbarrell82]

What a missle truck the F15 EX is.

[@kevinmyers440]

I’m new to watching these videos kinda, so I don’t know how true to life they are but this is why I trust the F-15 against some of these other countries weak and fifth gen fighters, that radar it has is unreal

[@lukeunterkofler106]

F-22 philosophy: Use amazing stealth technology to evade enemy missiles and radar and sneak up on enemies F-15EX philosophy: Find someone on radar and spray n pray 😂

[@Blasikov]

Good to see the Hawkeye crew made it out. 5x5 chutes.

[@kswas2784]

Some more really good and fun content! How about A-10 vs F-35 CAS competition based on the recently released USAF findings.

[@user-mm1nt1it5v]

That was a cool video, I dont remember you going after the awacs before.

[@alxavier3795]

Hella good fight! Shout out to both pilots!!

[@istvanbarta]

Imagin the AWACS tell "merged... with me!" in the radio :)

[@yaboinines7583]

Hi GS, I think it’d be interesting to see this fight again but giving the F15EX access to AIM-260’s. If that seems too tough then maybe the F22 could use the Peregrine missile.

[@googleuser4268]

I thought aim260 is still under development ?

[@winnerwannabe9868]

12:51 "sad AWACS noises..." Lol

[@andrefreeman7025]

0:36 How man AMRAAMs you wish to have? Yeeees.

[@n.s.3410]

It's difficult beating an enemy that is carrying 72 missiles.

[@dreaminknight]

Situstional awarness is decisive. Not a lot of arms.

[@LeonAust]

Not for 5th gen......................easy!

[@bluecollarbuddha948]

I thought for sure you were going for some "sneak up and fly formation" vengeance with this one.

[@theusernamejman]

That F-15 put up a heckuva fight

[@soulseeker3194]

It's 4:20AM here, and I'm still up for this! Let's goo!

[@MarioSeoane]

I wonder if it's true that a couple of 15's or 18's with the Irts21 at long range can spot, track , and give a targeting solution against stealth based on riangulation. 28 amrrams combined against 6 could be a real challenge.

[@dreaminknight]

Spot with some luck but no weapon solution.

[@erasmus_locke]

If the F-15 had played defensive around the AWACS and forced the F-22 into the patriot site I think the F-15 could win easily.

[@DeathPenny]

you collected all three- Nice!

[@rmp5s]

Ground crew: "How many missiles do you want?" F-15EX: "Yes."

[@subjectc7505]

If I'm correct the EX also has it's RCS reduced in some areas

[@dreaminknight]

Doesnt matter. Its RCS is still huge. The F-15 is the definition of anti stealth.

[@andreabindolini7452]

@@dreaminknight the definition of anti stealth is the XB-70 Valkyrie, from 40 to 100.000 (!) square meters!

[@user-ty5di3ku6o]

Imagine being an AWACS pilot and an F-22 gets behind you 😭

[@nooneyouknowhere6148]

Skippy.... my brown pants.

[@user-ty5di3ku6o]

@@nooneyouknowhere6148 yeah, I would just cry 😂

[@FrankRoosevelt32]

4:01 Holy missiles, Batman! Jeez is that thing carrying 12 plus a drop tank?

[@corybrown2197]

Now obviously this isn’t real life. But even in concept, to see how stealth affects the outcome is incredible. He has arguably a better radar, had better resources, twice as many missiles and I think even more than just twice, and yet in those final critical moments where it was essentially a fair joust, his missiles lost lock, and yours didn’t. There’s something to be said about modern tech and sheer firepower. But in the end we figured it out over 20 years ago. Stealth is clearly what gives you the edge in the air.

[@blshouse]

F-22 is being retired because it is obsolete. Stealth alone is not enough anymore.

[@recoilrob324]

I was wondering how the F-15 wasn't killed by the first few missiles the Raptor sent its' way? I understand the missile seeker has trouble seeing the F-22...but the F-15 should be an easy kill...shouldn't it?

[@corybrown2197]

@@recoilrob324 well he’s also defending. The farther away you are the harder it is for the missile to maintain lock and hit the target. There are certain ranges where it should be a sure fire kill. Unless you can break the missiles lock and it loses you for even a split second, which can cause it to miss. But at that range and altitude there was nothing he could really do. Maybe if he was lower he could force the missile to hit the ground as it tried to lead him, but he was too high, and at that range there’s no time to defend properly. In fact if GS wasn’t in a raptor it’s likely he would have been hit in that last engagement too. It would have been a trade.

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

F-15 really did that SpAMRAAM, and you took that personally.

[@danield.7359]

The f-15 ex was quite a cookie!

[@dashhuber2901]

Ah, the good old F-1 5EX Eagle. Still pounding away at anything in reach after all these years.

[@westerncivilization]

That was amazing.

[@rocketpunchgo1]

Now let’s see GS driving the 15 and Toxic in the 22

[@beverlychmelik5504]

I'm surprised that the AWACS didn't degrade your radar with jamming. Unless it isn't modeled in DCS.

[@sulyokpeter3941]

I dont think it is modelled properly. Sadly the same thing about the ships. If you launch anti-ship missiles, ships should also jam + launching decoys.

[@Dontbeweak123]

I wonder how much the radar signature of the F15 is decreased in reality.

[@blshouse]

LOL The RCS for the F-15 is about the same as for an A-380.

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

​@@blshouseblatant misinformation. It's only marginally larger than the SuperHornet. And the SuperHornet itself is small enough to be classified Low Observable. The F-15EX has an improved RCS from even that.

[@andreabindolini7452]

@@ObiWanShinobi917 No, the Super Hornet is around 0.1 square meters. The legacy F-15C is in average around 11 square meters. Surely the EX had some "have glass" type improvement in that field but I don't know any detail. I would be surprised if the RCS was reduced under 3/5 square meters. RAM materials alone can't do miracles and square angles are impossible to correct

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Seems to be a misconception amongst the airheads that the EX is a revamp of the Strike Eagle. But that's far from the truth. The F-15EX is actually an amped up version of the F-15C. But with the added ability to carry a ton of missiles. The EX is to the F-15C what the SuperHornet is to the Hornet. Better Engines Better Radar Better AoA Better Rate Fight Better Maneuverability Better Payload Better RCS It's just a juiced up F-15C and that's a terrifying prospect considering how good the C was. I would like to see GS fly the F-35 in this scenario and see how well it does.

[@dreaminknight]

The F-18C is slightly more agile than the E/F.

[@tristandawson6417]

Wicked how capable the F-15 still is 50 years later

[@williamthornton5856]

Its not the same platform it was 50 years ago. The 15EX much better than the 15A, or C, or E. It also had two AWACs and its own new awesome APG 82 radar to triangulate the Raptors general location.

[@HarlequinWolf]

"How many missiles can you carry?" F-15EX: "Yes"

[@FrankRoosevelt32]

“Hey everyone today we’re here in the F-22 Raptor annnnnddd he’s gone… the F-15 is dead he’s gone.”

[@barbarossa1234]

The terrain is beautiful.

[@chrisbenten9971]

If i was the F15-EX pilot and knew I was up against an F-22 I would be triple tapping...

[@dreaminknight]

I would run away...

[@LifeChanger_._]

Damn, was rooting for the EX.!

[@yazi_b0i63]

Would love to see this with AIM-260's on the opposing side, Great video!

[@oscarwarren9709]

@GrowlingSidewinder I was wondering, would you ever do a BVR video flying the F-15EX?

[@TRiLL_FiL]

I love when these fights are not easy for you lol

[@soulseeker3194]

F15 just spamming amraams 😂

[@HabitualButtonPusher]

E-2 Driver: Holy F*&k! We’re MERGED with a F-22!

[@abbaerfani9007]

I like to see this fight but instead of F22 going with SU35 against the F15EX. I believe it's going to be changed for both sides. Gerat video thanks for making all this ❤