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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Merch Store: teespring.com/stores/growling-sidewinder-store American Murder Hornet Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/american-murder-hornet-bluepri?product=227 I'm A Cat Person Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/i-m-a-cat-person-f-14-tomcat?product=227 Anything can kill anything, but if you can get 2 people of equal kill and who understand the concepts of BFM and HOBS Dogfight the F-22 will dominate and that was made very clear in the tacview with the numbers we see there, its hard to argue the F-22 wouldn't win this fight every single time, ok guys thanks for watching, hope you enjoyed and I'll see you in the next one, much love.
@loganh0463
@loganh0463 2 жыл бұрын
it would be good to see you in the f22 vs someone in the typhoon. It would be an interesting dogfight
@Nicksanchez1122
@Nicksanchez1122 2 жыл бұрын
F22 vs j20
@kelvinkudirical1438
@kelvinkudirical1438 2 жыл бұрын
Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt a guy who is a groped fan told me once gropen can beat any 5th gen jet
@vitpokorny6563
@vitpokorny6563 2 жыл бұрын
me: Ah finaly gripen in czech colors gripen: Proceeds to gete anihilated by f22 me: Well f**k
@caybrown7534
@caybrown7534 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you’re not even pulling back on the stick
@johnfcronkrite
@johnfcronkrite 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of pre-flaring maybe you should pre-eject?
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1261
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1261 2 жыл бұрын
if you eject there’s less possiblity that they shoot you down since you would technically not be in the plane therefore it was not you who got shot down!
@snugglecity3500
@snugglecity3500 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1261 it will be a stalemate therefore gripen=raptor
@bagellord
@bagellord 2 жыл бұрын
There's no WSO to use as a decoy though
@vibrolax
@vibrolax 2 жыл бұрын
@@bagellord Old WW2 submarine trick (also borrowed by Romulans).
@spencerrussell2267
@spencerrussell2267 2 жыл бұрын
And if you’ve ejected, it becomes a war crime to KIA you
@lancet.346
@lancet.346 2 жыл бұрын
GS: "...put a chimpanzee in an F-22..." Me: Mother of God. I could be a Raptor driver.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
lold
@kelvinkudirical1438
@kelvinkudirical1438 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrowlingSidewinder Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt
@retardmoguss
@retardmoguss 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinkudirical1438 ya gripen is overrated as hell.
@kelvinkudirical1438
@kelvinkudirical1438 2 жыл бұрын
@@retardmoguss gripen cant even out turn su 27 lol out turning f 22 is like hardest thing to do which gripen can never achive
@angelarch5352
@angelarch5352 2 жыл бұрын
Give me a banana, I will fly!
@crankthetank3581
@crankthetank3581 2 жыл бұрын
"i wonder if he is gonna let me go" *sees 9x coming at full speed* "nope"
@VengerDFW
@VengerDFW 2 жыл бұрын
Best part of a great video....
@harrykoyl3784
@harrykoyl3784 2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO!!!
@christianmelendez2850
@christianmelendez2850 2 жыл бұрын
I was laughing so hard at that lol.
@sana-cm7oc
@sana-cm7oc Ай бұрын
😂 the commentary from GS.
@joetorres1861
@joetorres1861 2 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion. You are both of course capable but after having the F-22 win 2 or 3 times, I would suggest switching planes. Maybe (no disrespect) one is a better fighter pilot. If you took the 22 and win the next couple matches would demonstrate your point better in my opinion.
@-_deploy_-
@-_deploy_- 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mikaelb.4799
@mikaelb.4799 2 жыл бұрын
Very good point.
@factChecker01
@factChecker01 2 жыл бұрын
Those were pretty simple maneuvers and even when the Gripen started its turn first the F-22 got its nose around much earlier.
@SillyDillysTunes
@SillyDillysTunes 2 жыл бұрын
The math at the end proves why it's inferior plenty.
@kyleanderson9004
@kyleanderson9004 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@starbase218
@starbase218 2 жыл бұрын
“Left engine fire” Me thinking… wasn’t there just one engine on a Gripen?
@Redbull2D
@Redbull2D 2 жыл бұрын
One of the problems with modding a 1 engine jet with fc3 lol
@poopoop825
@poopoop825 2 жыл бұрын
it might mean intakes ??? i’m not sure though
@Redbull2D
@Redbull2D 2 жыл бұрын
@@poopoop825 I'm pretty sure it isn't though, it wouldn't make sense dunno 😂
@catsfrommars
@catsfrommars 2 жыл бұрын
Avionics got hit so hard it forgot what plane it was on
@charak100able
@charak100able 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Thought the same thing. Had to rewind to make sure she really said that 😁
@sayan-4971
@sayan-4971 2 жыл бұрын
F22: Ah! I see you are still bound by the laws of physics
@adrianstachowski9422
@adrianstachowski9422 2 жыл бұрын
@@Forthenheimer And pilots physical boundaries. At this point only somekind of future fighter drone could dogfight this
@jizburg
@jizburg 2 жыл бұрын
Laws of physics are for peasants. Still love the gripen tho.
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, the F-35 obliterated the Gripen in testing recently in both bvr and visual range dogfighting when Finland was deciding what to buy. The F-22 basically enjoys a free meal
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 2 жыл бұрын
@Drew Peacock the F-35 has one of the most advanced EW suites ever fitted into an aircraft. It can jam and trick enemy EW suites, block the MAWS, etc. It wasn't rigged in the slightest. The Gripen just isn't up to par
@CrayonEater255
@CrayonEater255 2 жыл бұрын
@Drew Peacock yeah dude they rigged their own test and chose a supposedly “worse” jet (which is clearly better than the Gripen) that just doesn’t make any sense. Just absurd to think a Swedish 4.5 Gen aircraft can beat an American 5th Gen jet, just absurd.
@__-fm5qv
@__-fm5qv Жыл бұрын
The Gripen is amazing for what it is, a small, low cost, reliable multi-role fighter. It can *almost* keep up with its more expensive multirole counter parts, and factoring in the cost that makes it incredibly impressive. But what it isn't, is a 5th gen killing air superiority fighter, and that shows here. Its an excellent aircraft for what it is, but it isn't a raptor killer, it was never designed to be! An aircraft with that capability would be far outside the budget for the Gripen.
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a few upgrades to its technology etc if it could put up a more of a closer fight.
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
@@mitchjames9350 Like what? No amount of tech upgrades are going to allow it turn fast enough to get that nose in anywhere near the same position as the f22.
@maximus.4656
@maximus.4656 Жыл бұрын
Gripens hunt in packs .
@dimitri1154
@dimitri1154 Жыл бұрын
The Gripen is one of the most overrated modern fighters. No combat history, very modest flight characteristics, mediocre weapons and carrying capacity. Euro-chiqueness and being Swedish is the only thing it has going for it (esentially just good marketing from Saab)
@bjornerikroth
@bjornerikroth 11 ай бұрын
@@dimitri1154 Ah, the Meteor is mediocre. That's high standards for sure!
@Dyjsong
@Dyjsong 2 жыл бұрын
If Shotgun and Longshot do a multicrew F14 is their callsign Longshotgun?
@Obirascor
@Obirascor 2 жыл бұрын
Shotshot obviously.
@Dyjsong
@Dyjsong 2 жыл бұрын
@@Obirascor Double-Shot
@Cybetrexs
@Cybetrexs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Obirascor this needs to be canon. Callsign shotshot merging with a mig.
@avramnovorra
@avramnovorra 2 жыл бұрын
This has to happen!
@Mkby88
@Mkby88 2 жыл бұрын
Double tap
@aggressivelychad
@aggressivelychad 2 жыл бұрын
The flat spin flare drop…who knew the F-22, an aircraft, could actually look happy.
@kenchen704
@kenchen704 2 жыл бұрын
Also praise lord GS for the humiliation and suffering he endured to make this video getting killed again and again in the Gripen XD
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
ahaha ya dude, it was a rough video to make.
@maytherebepeaceintheworld4726
@maytherebepeaceintheworld4726 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 ikr
@highjix
@highjix 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrowlingSidewinder I only just recently found your channel, so your older subs may already know the answer, but why didn't you switch planes so that we could see how it looks from the raptor pilots pov?
@burntburrito8886
@burntburrito8886 2 жыл бұрын
@@highjix he will show it sometimes but often he’s showcasing one plane vs the other not just the fight
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
@@burntburrito8886 this is accurate, also sometimes the other guy doesn't own the other plane or isn't competent in it.
@sbg911
@sbg911 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously spent that whole vid laughing at the sheer futility, it was like watching the world's saddest groundhog day. Btw I think you did well to last as long as you did in some of those engagements...
@VikingTeddy
@VikingTeddy 2 жыл бұрын
I hope these mods get a proper flight model some day. I'd be interested in how these fights would actually go. At the moment the stf won't even allow you to stall unless you *really* try.
@rodneydecormier1504
@rodneydecormier1504 2 жыл бұрын
You should watch the video of him in a tomcat trying to fight a raptor.
@HenrikHuber
@HenrikHuber 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a human pilot actually could make thoose F22 turns in reality without getting a black out??
@duanesamuelson2256
@duanesamuelson2256 2 жыл бұрын
@@HenrikHuber it depends on where the actual turning point of the aircraft is. Despite where the nose is pointing it actual did look like the plane was rotating faster than the actual turning radius. I admit this could make the g-load worse also as you start calculating loads by vectors.
@HenrikHuber
@HenrikHuber 2 жыл бұрын
@@duanesamuelson2256 Yes if the F22 pilot blacks out due to his extreme G-turnig manuvers he would probably get shot down. Another factor might be due to wich speed the aircraft is at when sharper turns are used. If this is the case a pilot using a 4th generation fighter vs an F22 might level his chanses in higher speeds, rather than the usual, slower dogfighting speeds? I don't now, just brainstorming a little...
@005AGIMA
@005AGIMA 2 жыл бұрын
The way the F22 moves.....I've not been into Flight Sims for a loooooong time, but compared to things like the F16 and F18, that F22 just looks like something from another planet. Amazing!
@haidcar
@haidcar 2 жыл бұрын
Gripen: left engine fire also Gripen: single egnine multi role fighter
@paodebatata6606
@paodebatata6606 2 жыл бұрын
its just one of the ways to say the engine has left
@Cybetrexs
@Cybetrexs 2 жыл бұрын
@@paodebatata6606 it’s not saying the left engine is on fire, it’s saying the engine has leftcthe aircraft, leaving only a fire.
@razorback20
@razorback20 2 жыл бұрын
Also Gripen : 'hydraulic failure' Reality : whole right wing gone Who the heck programmed this computer? Seriously?
@Cybetrexs
@Cybetrexs 2 жыл бұрын
@@razorback20 it’s cause it’s using the F-15 as the base
@duanesamuelson2256
@duanesamuelson2256 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cybetrexs remember there was an F-15 that the pilot not only maintained control after a mid air collision but landed the thing successfully. That's without the right wing.. I guess loosing your wing would be "just" a hydraulic failure. Israeli F 15 if anyone cares to look it up. There are also videos of the incident.
@kenchen704
@kenchen704 2 жыл бұрын
3:44 “I don’t know how I am still alive” F22: Yeah right…
@kelvinkudirical1438
@kelvinkudirical1438 2 жыл бұрын
Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt
@SonnyKnutson
@SonnyKnutson 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinkudirical1438 I am a Gripen fan but I know very well that the Gripen can't beat thrust vectoring in a dogfight. If Gripen is to have any chance it would have to be in a Beyond Visual Range fight. But even then I doubt Gripen stands a chance against the F22 Raptor. If it was Gripen E it might be a different story but I still think it would be a very difficult fight for Gripen. Would def be more interesting tho. (In Beyond Visual Range that is).
@kelvinkudirical1438
@kelvinkudirical1438 2 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyKnutson the only gripen fan i repect. U have my respect 🤜🤜
@hughmungus5033
@hughmungus5033 2 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyKnutson stealth, and supercruise would definitely aid the F22. I understand stealth isn't invisibility but it definitely reduces the range at which the enemy can detect, and track you. Both of which are important to bvr. The low probability of intercept radar would also make the F22's attacks harder to detect and as a result harder to survive.
@jacobblair6181
@jacobblair6181 2 жыл бұрын
When the f22 and a grippen merge. F22: so you have chosen death.
@SpartanJey1219
@SpartanJey1219 2 жыл бұрын
Que umbrella academy passing car meme
@jacobblair6181
@jacobblair6181 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpartanJey1219 lol
@axlejohnson9156
@axlejohnson9156 2 жыл бұрын
You have chosen poorly.
@mozworthy
@mozworthy 2 жыл бұрын
I have worked at Amberley airbase, Australia. I can recall a few years back when Aus was doing an exercise with the US and we had a bunch of F22's here as part of the thing. Long story short, I was on base working when a flight of F22's returned. The turn to get to the runway alignment was just above my head. I was watching a plane come around in an easy turn as they always do to get to where they should be. I can only assume the pilot was watching me and wanted to show off. He proceeded to do what I can only describe as a power slide that changed his trajectory by at least 40 degrees in the space of a second. I was stunned beyond words. I was used to seeing FA18 Supers perform all sorts of maneuvers over the base (they practice the upcoming airshows there) and sure it was low speed, but I was absolutely astonished at the incredible agility of this one maneuver.
@dat581
@dat581 2 жыл бұрын
The F-35 regularly pulls the same tricks at Willytown these days.
@aaronsh242
@aaronsh242 2 жыл бұрын
"its possible that when you put a chimpanzee in the f22 cockpit the Gripen can win so I needed to choose a competent pilot" proceeds to pick shotgun over longshot to pilot the f22.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
ahah longshot would have also been great, but he was not available.
@Reaper_03-01
@Reaper_03-01 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrowlingSidewinder you know the bromance between yourself and Longshot is strong when Longshot turns down an opportunity to pay you back for amputating his Huey's tail a week or so ago.
@aaronsh242
@aaronsh242 2 жыл бұрын
Hey all I’m saying is to read between the lines
@pooyarad
@pooyarad 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaaaaaaaaaa . I wish longshot would comment here
@pooyarad
@pooyarad 2 жыл бұрын
On such situation longshot becomes a blood thirsty creature!
@brock0382
@brock0382 2 жыл бұрын
2:05 "Left engine - fire" "...I only have the one...?"
@Darthybuddy
@Darthybuddy 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. That’s the plane warning you that you have no engines. The one you had just left… while on fire.
@Power5
@Power5 2 жыл бұрын
The computer had so many systems to say were destroyed, it got confused.
@landonsrt9587
@landonsrt9587 2 жыл бұрын
I happened to be driving in Marietta, GA back in 98 and watched this jet take off, go completely vertical and disappear. Then it came back in low and bolted. It was an F22. 3 years before it was introduced. I was no more than 200 yards away and had no idea what I was looking at.
@user-vt2cr8qd1b
@user-vt2cr8qd1b 2 жыл бұрын
UFO sighting! (to be fair if it is unidentified and it is flying, it is a ufo!)
@ceciliaieav
@ceciliaieav 2 жыл бұрын
The Gripen E "turn up the nose" rotates the base of the RAVEN ES-05 radar and aim upwards the AESA to engage at 120 degrees angle, confirming direction following by HMD... with A-darter or Iris-T he would fire first, in all these opportunities: 1:52 2:32 3:28 3:59 5:53 6:12 6:57 8:11 8:26 10:21 12:24
@SirSpoof254
@SirSpoof254 2 жыл бұрын
This^ At the end of the day, this is a game and people seem to forget that. It's amazing how much fun you can get out of it but making real world conclusions based of this... laughable.
@edwardmiller4562
@edwardmiller4562 Жыл бұрын
Except he would be dead before he got that far in BVR.
@porsche9289
@porsche9289 11 ай бұрын
Jas 🇸🇪
@matchesburn
@matchesburn 2 жыл бұрын
...It's almost like an aircraft with thrust vectoring, actual full-aspect stealth and one of the most advanced LPI AESA radars on the planet is actually the most dangerous opponent on the planet for air combat right now. Imagine that. I'm waiting for the "the Raptor is overrated, the MiG-21 can beat it every time" crowd to appear.
@lonniebailey4989
@lonniebailey4989 2 жыл бұрын
The Raptor is overrated. The MiG-21 can beat it every time. Sorry, just had to do it. Just note I was obviously joking. MiG-21 vs F-22 is like taking a Mazda RX-8 up against a Koenigsegg CCXR.
@jacobrudder7582
@jacobrudder7582 2 жыл бұрын
I mean they built more Mig-21's so obviously they must be better! (is only joke please don't hurt me)
@Thunderkorn
@Thunderkorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobrudder7582 I'm triggered so I'm disliking because that's how mafia works
@vibrolax
@vibrolax 2 жыл бұрын
@@lonniebailey4989 If you mount a couple Hellfires on your RX-8, you can defeat the CCXR as it blows past. And you know the driver will not be able to resist getting in front.
@matchesburn
@matchesburn 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelioraCogito Oh, man, don't even get me started on the F-35... Chances you you might already know, but if you don't, do you want to know something that will make you even more unhappy? Rumsfield came out and said that the reason they greenlit the YF-22 over the YF-23 was because the United States Navy expressed interest in the Advanced Tactical Fighter program and because the YF-22 would be easier to navalize and make a carrier variant of than the YF-23. After the YF-22 won? The Navy went, "Nah, we're not interested" and went on to dump billions of dollars into the A-12 Avenger... which literally never had anything built or flown. And, of course, we all know that the F-22 production line shut down because we had to pay for the F-35. Yet some people still try and claim it wasn't... The whole idea behind the F-35 and how it was "sold" to the government and military was "it's too expensive to design and build multiple airframes for each service." Which sounds... dodgy. And, of course, it wasn't true. With the cost of the F-35's development and unit price we could have easily built 3 separate airframes (maybe with some increased parts commonality to help with logistics) that would've been the same price or cheaper and not have the design compromised to fit 3 different services and roles. I'd like to imagine a world where the F-35 didn't happen and they kept making and buying F-22s and just updated/upgraded the F-15/F-16 fleet and with the cost savings also started making an upgraded new manufacture A-10 series. And, as much as I love the Harrier, the USMC did need a more capable upgrade. The Navy seems to be going along just fine with the Super Bugs, and honestly, after the A-12 fiasco I don't really trust them having sole ownership of any fighter development in this day and age.
@turbooo7005
@turbooo7005 2 жыл бұрын
Are we just going to ignore that killer soundtrack GS put in the kill recap segments? What track is that?!
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know, but it sounds grimy as hell!
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know the name of the track the file on my PC was called "racing-W7M"
@wvvalencia
@wvvalencia 2 жыл бұрын
Someone has got to know that song and where we can get it
@blackhalo6
@blackhalo6 2 жыл бұрын
So, I tried each cut section he had on there. I tried it on Shazam, SoundHound, and google song search. No results for any of it. I can only assume it's a royalty free song or something.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackhalo6 its not royalty free lol, I pay for all the music you guys hear in these videos. which is why I can't share them for you guys I'm not allowed to distribute under the licensing agreement.
@crusader318
@crusader318 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve lived on an Air Force base with F22s, so we saw them a lot. I swear their turns are frickin unreal, the best way to win a fight versus them, is to not engage and run away.
@lxrd_cs
@lxrd_cs 2 жыл бұрын
Nah the best way is to launch a BrahMos going mach 2.8 at that thing and laugh
@chrisoreilly3481
@chrisoreilly3481 2 жыл бұрын
You can't even out run the damn thing that's the problem. The f-22 gets you on radar and youre basically done. No way you're evading 2.25 mach.
@lxrd_cs
@lxrd_cs 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisoreilly3481 I mean BrahMos is a SAM so good luck dodging that with your Raptor
@power21100
@power21100 2 жыл бұрын
@@lxrd_cs uhhhmmm.... Yeah, how can your SAM lock at the F22 if it can't see it on radar?
@AIMENGAGED
@AIMENGAGED 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisoreilly3481 in an F-15 you can, but theres no point in the F-15 running
@IanB1015
@IanB1015 2 жыл бұрын
“I wonder if he’s going to let me go… nope” 😆😆😆 The disrespect from the flat splinting flairs. 🤦‍♂️😆
@IanB1015
@IanB1015 2 жыл бұрын
Splinting….spinning. Thanks iPhone. 🤦‍♂️
@idfclutchnixon
@idfclutchnixon 2 жыл бұрын
1:13 that's a show alone... those flares are so cinematic and well done! also happy to see old kill cams. and I feel like we're just getting started!
@GlitchyGamers18
@GlitchyGamers18 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to like but it is on 69 likes 👍
@Nixo_01
@Nixo_01 2 жыл бұрын
Ok gotta mention this. That's some sick music during the replay! I like how this channel is evolving and engaging more with the viewers.
@11bravocrunchie22
@11bravocrunchie22 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy these 1-on-1's. One thing I wouldn't mind seeing in some of these really close matchups is the perspective from the other plane as well.
@aryanjaiswal3110
@aryanjaiswal3110 2 жыл бұрын
Daaaam GS you killed it❤️❤️ Killer Soundtrack Reverse Cinematography to explain the instantaneous turn Rate of F22 Eating AIM 9Xs on your face just for the sake of this video And your soothing calming Voice is just chef's Kiss 😁 Love your content even more my brother with every coming video you give us more reasons to love your Content 🙏 Never ever lose hope GS and his Buddies keep doing your awesome work it's my inspiration for being a Fighter Pilot ❤️
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
much love buddy thanks for the love and support.
@einar8019
@einar8019 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrowlingSidewinder why were you carying rb74(aim9l) and not iris t
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
@@einar8019 I'm not, the gripen is carrying 9x as well to make it exactly even.
@felipejara4758
@felipejara4758 2 жыл бұрын
The physics are meaningless for the F22. My god that nose just points at you at will 🤣
@jmkhenka
@jmkhenka 2 жыл бұрын
Well, problem is neither gripen or f22 is anywhere near authentic in this game. They are still top secret, their capabilities are not public. quite dumb to make a statement with a videogame. In reality the gripen will never encounter a f22..
@msc9944
@msc9944 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea if there’s a mod out there for the YF-23 but that vs the F-22 would be a sick battle to see
@TheAndrettiDog
@TheAndrettiDog 2 жыл бұрын
The YF-22 was more maneuverable than the YF-23 which had lower RCS. So unless it's a BVR fight, the F-22 should wax it.
@FusionAero
@FusionAero 2 жыл бұрын
Black Widow would still hold the high cards in stealth, speed, climb rate, and energy retention. Getting your sneks to growl at the heat-tile shielded engines could be a challenge as well. Every plane can be an energy fighter, or a maneuver fighter, relative to what it is facing.
@dashy90210
@dashy90210 2 жыл бұрын
If we bring the F-22 back to ATF-era tech, it'll murder the YF-23 in dogfights (maneuverability, bit smaller/lighter too) and get murdered BVR (slower, worse RCS). If we put current F-22 against YF-23? no contest.
@223556762308
@223556762308 2 жыл бұрын
Shame it’s turbine blades could be visible to ground radars
@dashy90210
@dashy90210 2 жыл бұрын
@@myusername3689 I don't mind being corrected but being 'well actually'd I don't enjoy. The F-22 is more maneuverable at low speeds due to thrust vectoring (and slightly better wing loading). What speeds do dogfights happen at? Especially with the assumed turn rates and weapons involved, no decent F-22 driver would opt for a med-high speed rate fight, they'd force it low-speed one circle. If you're going to correct someone, get it right.
@chrisschweitzer7342
@chrisschweitzer7342 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there GS. Love your content. I'm sure you've heard this before so I'd just like to throw a vote in for it too. It might be really interesting to see the format where you and the other pilot swap jets after 2 rounds. That will allow folks to see if it's just a case of the jet being better or if it's the skill of the pilots that's ruling the day. Just a thought and once again, I really appreciate all the amazing content that you are putting out.
@Andrew-27
@Andrew-27 2 жыл бұрын
Gripen - Literally on fire. F22 - I'm not done yet.
@jbloun911
@jbloun911 3 ай бұрын
F22 has water cannon to put out only to catch plane on 🔥 again
@brandonschwertley2723
@brandonschwertley2723 2 жыл бұрын
GS taking the pain for our enjoyment again, kudos. Raptor: "wow Gripen, you're really strong" Gripen "don't be modest, I know you didn't even use half your power"
@tonyrun5802
@tonyrun5802 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video (and the MUSIC DUDE, IT ROCKED!), but also props to Chuck Yeager for having been a living legend. May he dance with the angels.
@DataRew
@DataRew 2 жыл бұрын
I really dig the addition of music to the external shots and the usual speaking for the internal! Great change!
@willtaylor6793
@willtaylor6793 Жыл бұрын
I love how you just see the nose just instantly snap around and there’s literally not a single thing you can do about it
@pogga3051
@pogga3051 2 жыл бұрын
The complete silence KILLED IN ACTION is so satisfying
@nathanaelgilkes4412
@nathanaelgilkes4412 2 жыл бұрын
Another 1...appreciate the hard work sidewinder
@ZETH_27
@ZETH_27 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the people saying the JAS39 can outperform the F-22 in a 1v1 are fucking high. The F22 was built for high performance, the JAS39 was built to be an economically viable multirole fighter that literally costs less than half that of the F-22.
@MRT1822A
@MRT1822A 2 жыл бұрын
Look Boss GS, you've got to understand most of us (all of us) are laughing at the futility of this fight. However ALL of us know the frustration you were going through and for that we are eternally grateful. At least I was. Bet I can hear Longshot laughing back there. By the way thanks to Shotgun for the video.
@grigorispanousis9745
@grigorispanousis9745 2 жыл бұрын
These ppl come from the grim reapers video, but we all know the grim reapers arent there for their competence
@augiehicks4588
@augiehicks4588 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@FilouZ_9000
@FilouZ_9000 2 жыл бұрын
"the grippen can beat the raptor every time, if it was flown by chuck yeager and the raptor by a chimp" beautiful :')
@kelvinkudirical1438
@kelvinkudirical1438 2 жыл бұрын
Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt
@Macovic
@Macovic 2 жыл бұрын
The raptor will win every time if it is flown better
@czar8304
@czar8304 2 жыл бұрын
Love the edits that you made with the merge. Keep up the good work GS!
@benjaminrobledo5466
@benjaminrobledo5466 Жыл бұрын
F-22 is not an air superiority fighter. It's an air dominance fighter.
@longtimber
@longtimber 2 жыл бұрын
How about a $/$ fight where you fight however many Grippens can be bought for the cost of one F-22? Just for fun
@edwardcardozo8325
@edwardcardozo8325 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough to defeat one raptor (jk)
@WorkedSnail
@WorkedSnail 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardcardozo8325 this is probably actually true, if it's BVR.
@isaacjm9
@isaacjm9 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this idea and would love to see it. GS make it happen babe.
@snugglecity3500
@snugglecity3500 2 жыл бұрын
Gloster meteor vs f22
@Giesus3
@Giesus3 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually an interesting idea. I'd watch it.
@itsjustyas7724
@itsjustyas7724 2 жыл бұрын
off topic, you ever gonna stream on twitch again. Not sure if you've talked about it before but it'd be nice! Alright onto the video..
@kelvinkudirical1438
@kelvinkudirical1438 2 жыл бұрын
Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt
@itsjustyas7724
@itsjustyas7724 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinkudirical1438 ?
@_flyingcat_7527
@_flyingcat_7527 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsjustyas7724 hes commenting that on everyone
@marty5300
@marty5300 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I found this channel a few days ago and love your content. I enjoy watching these videos of you getting wrecked by the f22, the commentary makes it even funnier.
@briancrouch4389
@briancrouch4389 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is pretty rare for me to LOL and react out loud on KZbin videos. This one made me do both, this was great. keep it up. Thanks, I am enjoying your channel.
@anthonypoltes7413
@anthonypoltes7413 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the new music man, keep up the great content!
@GaTiger11
@GaTiger11 2 жыл бұрын
I love the gun kills. Missiles are cool and all but there's just something really special about closing in on your opponent and downing them with the gun.
@MajProblem09
@MajProblem09 Жыл бұрын
That final missile after you were shot down made me flinch so hard.
@dreqxz4490
@dreqxz4490 3 күн бұрын
8:42 “I wonder if he’s gonna let me go…” “Nope!-💥💥” 😂😂😂😂😂
@cgilleybsw
@cgilleybsw 2 жыл бұрын
What's worse is most of the time, you'll never see the F22 that kills you. LPI radar, stealth, AWACS lurking 100km behind. As one Raptor pilot said, "like seal clubbing in a barrel..." But that thrust vectoring... wow...
@matso3856
@matso3856 2 жыл бұрын
Actually if your bringing in the Gripens strong suit (radar jamming & detection) the playing field gets more equal , however it would still most likely result into the F22 just having to gun down Gripen. Edit: Oh sorry , didnt notice this was Gripen C , yeah then its game over if the raptor gets that close, without a wingman.
@brellnob
@brellnob 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Grim Reapers should watch this video and pay attention to those first few sentences.
@dtguy1
@dtguy1 2 жыл бұрын
Ur vids are a master class in dogfighting tactics along w knowledge of today's aircraft... I wish I had half the abilities (and the pc's) u guys own! Thank u for putting these together!
@singlechristiancowboy
@singlechristiancowboy Жыл бұрын
That Gripen in a turn against a Raptor was like a Lincoln Navigator tryna out turn a Mini Cooper.
@jbloun911
@jbloun911 3 ай бұрын
Dirt bike
@vibrolax
@vibrolax 2 жыл бұрын
GS is one of the smoothest-ejecting pilots I've ever seen. I can't see him getting his arms ripped off, or his neck snapped when he punches out. Flawless defeat.
@oscarbergner
@oscarbergner 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen any real life clips ever of a F-22 doing that tight turns thou. Maybe it's a classified turn :D
@Meatlooaf
@Meatlooaf 2 жыл бұрын
It's a simulator... :)
@ofacesig
@ofacesig Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos on KZbin. Period.
@Mobius118
@Mobius118 2 жыл бұрын
I quite enjoyed this one, my dude! Thanks 🤙🏼
@blech71
@blech71 2 жыл бұрын
Jamming the WEZ and preflaring…. I heard that again in my head in Dom’s voice from Fast & The Furious…. A’la double clutchin like you should…. You never had me….
@falsearbitrator2560
@falsearbitrator2560 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe somebody unironically thought the f22 would lose this...
@Wraithss
@Wraithss 2 жыл бұрын
Dude this is your best video yet. Nicely done. -Wraith
@simba1113
@simba1113 2 жыл бұрын
GS solid video Homie, love the work you do keep it up :)
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy much love
@devanhusmann9297
@devanhusmann9297 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like watching your vids i play some sim games and i have fun with how you break things down step by step in alot of your vids it makes it easy to understand whats going on there anyway long story short keep up the good work mate wish ya all the best.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man really appreciate the love you the man
@lando1296
@lando1296 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you've done this yet, but it would be really cool to see a 2v2 with actual player pilots in the F-22.
@ChristoFreeze
@ChristoFreeze Жыл бұрын
This is amazing stuff. Well done
@sean70729
@sean70729 2 жыл бұрын
Some truly great footage as always.
@SnaketheJake87
@SnaketheJake87 2 жыл бұрын
Here's your winged sadism for the KZbin algorithm.
@ishiyamaaa
@ishiyamaaa 2 жыл бұрын
This is so great to watch 🔥
@johnfields9669
@johnfields9669 2 жыл бұрын
Love watching the f22 dance that nose control is insane
@jeffwarren6906
@jeffwarren6906 2 жыл бұрын
Geez , I love this channel Sidewinder !!
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
and this channel loves you Jeff.
@kmmediafactory
@kmmediafactory 2 жыл бұрын
Me seeing the title: *cracks knuckles* “This is going to be fun” And also the new soundtrack is awesome. Fitting for the Raptor destroying its prey
@mikehancho5286
@mikehancho5286 2 жыл бұрын
There was a test bench F-22 about 5 years after it was deployed where engineers tried new wings. The test pilot came back saying the G force he was experiencing were far far to extreme, and would damage the airframe, and would black out the pilot.
@CHADTHUNDERCOCK80085
@CHADTHUNDERCOCK80085 Жыл бұрын
g forces affecting pilot and airframe isnt new been around since ww2 props
@svenjorgensen5
@svenjorgensen5 Жыл бұрын
Both the pilot and the equipment is cognizant of the limitation of g forces on itself.
@Anthony-66
@Anthony-66 2 жыл бұрын
Jas 39 pilot:Oh no I'm going down ejecting *Offlines*
@abdulmoeez2633
@abdulmoeez2633 2 жыл бұрын
Like the new background beat ✌🏻 Eid Mubarak GS!
@_Feyd-Rautha
@_Feyd-Rautha 2 жыл бұрын
Ne’er before hast I clickethed must hastily for this Devine escape from my piteous reality. Hail Sidewinder!
@weirdbritishperson9542
@weirdbritishperson9542 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I didn’t know we were in 16th century England
@_Feyd-Rautha
@_Feyd-Rautha 2 жыл бұрын
@@weirdbritishperson9542 hey lemme borrow that username Uh I mean May i b'rrow thy nameth sir
@lonniebailey4989
@lonniebailey4989 2 жыл бұрын
Shakespeare be like…
@user-xf3ch1fu2i
@user-xf3ch1fu2i 2 жыл бұрын
People are saying this because they saw a video from GrimReaper in which the grippen beat the f22 all times.
@Storlans
@Storlans 2 жыл бұрын
since its mods it does not really say anything xD
@user-xf3ch1fu2i
@user-xf3ch1fu2i 2 жыл бұрын
@@Storlans since it’s a video game it doesn’t really say anything. But let’s be honest, the f22 would still probably dominate. I mean after all it’s 3x the price
@Storlans
@Storlans 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xf3ch1fu2i being more expensive does not mean its better xD
@devildog1989
@devildog1989 2 жыл бұрын
The F-22 wipes the floor with the F-15, an air superiority fighter with a 108-0 kill ratio... Yeah, there's a reason we don't export it
@trhoads07
@trhoads07 3 ай бұрын
"cut me Mick" that was your best Rocky video.
@Giesus3
@Giesus3 2 жыл бұрын
When you do these types of videos it'd be interesting to see you guys switch planes at the halfway point.
@Bruh_1629
@Bruh_1629 2 жыл бұрын
This is baby seal clubbing, I love it!
@Cybetrexs
@Cybetrexs 2 жыл бұрын
You’re into some weird shit, but to each his own.
@chadh7005
@chadh7005 2 жыл бұрын
Most impressive part is we don't even know fully what the F-22 can do and still there's no competition.
@Riri-oj1zs
@Riri-oj1zs Жыл бұрын
You're dead without even knowing why. That's the F-22.
@knowa2911
@knowa2911 Жыл бұрын
“That missile went right by my head there’s a second ONE COMING RIGHT HE-“ -GS’s final words.
@Banzaj33
@Banzaj33 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always. What was the song used for the external post fight clips?
@Ankhobo
@Ankhobo 2 жыл бұрын
"The Gripen can beat the F-22 every time" - I think someone mixed up the order of the two planes in that sentence
@mikeconner8088
@mikeconner8088 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, in your dreams
@niclink1030
@niclink1030 9 ай бұрын
​@@mikeconner8088?
@greenwave2850
@greenwave2850 Жыл бұрын
"I wonder if he's going to let me go.....nope" dead. 🤣
@rollenford08
@rollenford08 2 жыл бұрын
Great flying and great video. It be pretty cool to see you in the f22 and someone else in one and you guy act as a hunter pack
@UVITMS
@UVITMS 2 жыл бұрын
Can a Gripen defeat an F-22??? F-22: so I took that personally
@PacificAirPhoto1
@PacificAirPhoto1 2 жыл бұрын
Is the helmet-mounted display not modelled in the DCS Gripen or did you choose not to use it? Also, what missiles are available for the DCS Gripen? Might have a better shot at a raptor kill with Iris-T, if properly implemented by ED. 60 G turns via thrust vectoring... 🔥
@Sid_Personal_
@Sid_Personal_ 2 жыл бұрын
F-22’s missile was soo fast he couldn’t even finish his convo. 😂😂
@cbspock1701
@cbspock1701 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious the poor Grippen doesn’t even know what hit it
@albertmax9662
@albertmax9662 2 жыл бұрын
Given the two main versions of the Gripen are the JAS-39C and JAS-39E. Both are significantly different, this simulation is just a guess of performance of one of those. For every 100 hours of flight time in a F-22, the Gripen can afford 700 hours.
@zulupox
@zulupox 2 жыл бұрын
So 7 Gripen vs 1 F-22?
@-_deploy_-
@-_deploy_- 2 жыл бұрын
@@zulupox no. A gripen can fly 7x more than a F-22
@zulupox
@zulupox 2 жыл бұрын
@@-_deploy_- Ah okay!
@FaulkyFocals
@FaulkyFocals 2 жыл бұрын
Eurofighter Typhoon vs F22 Raptor! Now I would love to see how that would play out!
@JazzJaRa
@JazzJaRa 2 жыл бұрын
There is no real Eurofighter Typhoon for DSC yet. Nobody knows when it will be done.
@MrNicoPela
@MrNicoPela 2 жыл бұрын
@@JazzJaRa Heatblur uploaded a trailer a couple days ago... I assume we'll get one pretty soon.
@JazzJaRa
@JazzJaRa 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrNicoPela Yes i have seen it, and it looks very promising
@dashy90210
@dashy90210 2 жыл бұрын
"i wonder if he's gonna let me go" heavily optimistic of you 😂
@RS-gn4bv
@RS-gn4bv 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Not for the whole F22 vs Gripen thing, but the digs that you've received in the past because you do fly above all that. Good to see similar though. Rootin for ya.
@koakt3357
@koakt3357 2 жыл бұрын
Grippen: I got it i got it, lets just be friends ok?
@larrylong4829
@larrylong4829 2 жыл бұрын
lol..."i wonder if he's going to let me go....nope!" splat! nice vid. Thanks!
@MrNismopro
@MrNismopro 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine in the 1st go around after ejection, the pilot get ingested into the F-22 intake. Like “Yeah! You got me, but I got you back!”. 😂
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