F-5 Tiger II: Naval Carrier Takeoff & Landing Tutorial (Semi-Serious) | DCS WORLD

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[@KennyTheB]

When trying to land the A-10 on a carrier, don't forget to utilize the aircraft's reverse feature to shorten the breaking distance. (Fire the cannon.)

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@alessandromazzini7026]

I would rather kms than fly that overrated piece of crap

[@Antares2]

This video made me feel very good about my own flying...

[@BlitzvogelMobius]

F-5 landing gear from the beginning was designed to handle rough field take offs. While not fully optimal for carrier landing sink rates, it's definitely not completely out of the question either. I'd be more worried about the tailhook being ripped off in real life than the landing gear not being able to handle a carrier landing, since the tailhook is for airfield emergency use with much less abrupt arrestment. Of course doing any of this with decent load of anything (stores or fuel) would be suicide.

[@Power5]

F5 has no launch bar and tail hook is not rated for 4g landings. It was absolutely never intended to be carrier born. Cannot launch from a US carrier, cannot be arrested by a US carrier. The USN purchased them solely for adversarial roles.

[@MrNicoPela]

"thirty millimeter air brakes" Can't stop laughing

[@grimreapers]

lols

[@Snipermac99]

You forgot to raise the height of your front gear!

[@grimreapers]

Whoopsie, I knew I forgot something.

[@MarvinCZ]

Is that even necessary with that ramp takeoff? You need it for increased AoA on a flat runway but this thing tosses you right up in the air. It might be even counterproductive, slowing you down on the run-up.

[@SpadesNeil]

The Navy _did_ want the F-5 able to operate off of light escort carriers. The escort carrier concept never made it to the battlefield, though.

[@makkaschatsanddits7899]

Cap has a military mind. We see and hear lots of people that cant articulate themselves and think things through in order logically, like how a process is carried out so we can analyze and work on it take what we need and potentially adapt and improve on it.

[@grimreapers]

Copy Murdoch

[@canebrakeruffian1122]

That first take off still has me cracking up! Good stuff boys!

[@michaelrowland828]

If the carrier is moving 25 or 30 knots it will help with a full load.

[@grimreapers]

Roger good point

[@Stahlwollvieh]

Except experience has shown that carrier physics goes complete bonkers at 25 knots.^^

[@scarecrow_9895]

Thanks Reapers! CAP very nice takeoff.

[@wwclay86]

The f-5 design was submitted to the US Navy for a light fighter to operate from escort carriers. So it had naval heritage.

[@Idontbelievethehype2]

I've seen pictures of the F-5 with the word NAVY on them, so they must have had a few. Possibly they are strictly used as adversaries.

[@SebastianWoodard]

CAP, watch that AoA in doctor to the left of your HUD. If it's a yellow up arrow, increase angle of attack. Add power and raise the nose. Hold it with that green circle. That gets your hook at the best possible angle for that hook to trap.

[@Power5]

I would think that AoA indexer is calibrated for field landings since the F-5 was never intended to land on a carrier. The sink rate and AoA for landing on a runway is not the same as a carrier. If I had to guess, I would say he would need the down arrow indicating his nose was too high and he is falling out of the sky, which is basically how F-18s fall onto the deck.

[@cmhagstrom]

One of the reasons that take off worked so well is that you didn't crank back on the stick like the others did. You just let the airplane accelerate instead of making it fight all that extra induced drag created by their extra AOA. Well done. Because of this, and especially because of the ramp, it might actually be better not to extend the nose gear. Thoughts?

[@grimreapers]

Yes that makes sense, this plane just can't do alpha.

[@ethanhiggins4887]

lol when you come in at 250 knots ur gonna bolter every time

[@that_hatchbak_civic]

that takeoff was beautiful im convinced to get the f5 now

[@Colin0221]

...And on this day, God blessed humanity with asdf12 and a Sam O’nella Academy video on the same day.

[@Moncinna09]

HAHAHAHA

[@Moncinna09]

Sam Onella is the best

[@gordslater]

Bolter! Dammit! F*ckcakes! - all this strange naval terminology

[@grimreapers]

Official terms ofc

[@ivebeenbamboozled9210]

Cap kept flaring at the last moment.

[@gordslater]

I have a feeling you need to wait a second or two more for max thrust to develop before you release the brakes, first 3 were too quick away - the afterburner takes longer to develop to max thrust than you would assume. No harm in waiting a couple of seconds as long as your brakes hold OK

[@AirBajan]

You fucking slammed the runway

[@Idontbelievethehype2]

Ok that was a tutorial? I just saw somebody fail and fail and fail. LOL.

[@D00kerT]

I feel like you should be doing at leat 50 knots slower. 200 is WAY too fast, even for the F5. From what I can see the F5 is supposed to land at around 170. Why that dude thought 200-220 is beyond me.

[@0013bluejay]

I just learned the F-5E and I found that a 150 landing speed is just perfect. The F-5 can actually float pretty well

[@SkyGuy-gr2zc]

The fact that it can only land on a Russian carrier makes the F-5 a MIG 28 instead

[@nightlight0x07cc]

I saw your friend trying to bleed speed by popping up and down, I learned early on that side slip is the best way to kill speed and altitude. To side slip, roll about 45° sideways and then rudder against the turn and elevator down to counteract the banking turn, it forces your plane through the air at an awful angle and you'll have the trajectory of a parachute bomb lmao I drop in on runways high and fast with that technique all the time 'cause I'm too lazy to line up and slow down properly.

[@thetreblerebel]

That's why Navy pilots are the best pilots

[@s2korpionic]

RIP A-10. Oh Tail's pilot jutting out from the edge of the deck was gold! As for the other pilots sinking in... just, why? I thought it was standard procedure to always, ALWAYS go full throttle before the launch? Heck, if those guys played IL-2's Pacific Fighters, they'd know how fatal it is to take off without going full throttle initially.

[@Cenils00]

Kalsonic haha thanks! The reason I fell into the water was that I released to early 😀

[@Skybolter]

There should be some changes, replace the single tire nose gear for a Double Tire Nose gear for aircraft carrier operations.

[@bobpratt1425]

I think supercarrier may have disabled this for F-5s...

[@grimreapers]

agreed

[@quintenmaas326]

What did Cap say the Kuznetskov was called? The Kuznetsevkos... Nice

[@Brimmlinn]

I think the main thing that helped Cap get off the deck was not only were there no weapons, but he had very little fuel. You can see him change it to 15% total fuel.

[@Cenils00]

Crimson_Ghost we have made a naval mission earlier and then I took off with fueltank and aim9s but thats where the limit goes. Much more will be a nice drink :D

[@grimreapers]

Oops I didnlt realise

[@TheCraigHudson]

Does anyone ever zoom in the field of view. ?? I find the actual starting head distance to the cockpits seems to far back but that could be because it’s rendering an image and not the real thing. Su 33 27 mig 29s I do the left altC and scroll the mouse up 3 to 2 forward mouse rolls and it takes a bit of the field of view away but seems to me like it is more realistic. F5 I do 2-3 rolls forward. Su25s f14 f18 a10 are usually one roll forward on the mouse. Ka 50 is 3 and Huey mi8 gazelle are 2 rolls forward. Idk but it feel more immersive that way to me.

[@oceanforth21]

Call the ball ;)

[@Lycky7even]

*does a tutorial how to land* *fails landing five times*

[@MarvinCZ]

It was a good tutorial. Cap was just learning with us, the other guys were teaching.

[@Lycky7even]

@@MarvinCZ "naval carrier takeoff and landing tutorial"

[@MarvinCZ]

@@Lycky7even Yes, and that was all taught. It just wasn't Cap who was doing most of the teaching, it was the others.

[@MarvinCZ]

Btw, did you notice the "semi-serious" in the title?

[@Proximax9]

didn't know F-5 has a tail hook :) that's cool!

[@slysi5209]

It does but its designed for emergency landings on airfields not carrier landings and once its down its down till the crew chief restores it or in DCS repair aircraft. Although in DCS it allows us to trap the carriers wire IRL the F5E's undercarriage is not designed to land on a carrier - if you see the pictures of F5Es on carriers they are mostly pictures of deliveries to Vietnam.

[@Aeronaut1975]

Most military jets do. Even the Tornado and Eurofighter have tailhooks, and neither of them are are capable of carrier operations. They're for airfield arrestor wires, in case their brakes fail.

[@rimshot360]

Tell them how to do it CAP......Master Class once again

[@grimreapers]

Thx TJ

[@b.h1362]

How i open the gun menu just like u did in 17:09

[@grimreapers]

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[@Shoniforce]

wait a sec, i tought u could only land on f5-e at a carrier only if u got insanely crosswinds and other unreal stuff going on...

[@grimreapers]

No, just as long as not fully loaded plane

[@TechGaming45]

IF I add arrester wires to my Hermes model.... do you think F-5 will work???

[@grimreapers]

Yes of course

[@TechGaming45]

Grim Reapers one more thing to figure out then... Will give you the latest Alpha version this week to muck about with....

[@L3AF]

intresting f-5 need to do a runway landing on a carrier xD

[@grimreapers]

It's HORRIBLE to do

[@Stahlwollvieh]

I found it pretty easy tbh... :3

[@williamdemars956]

guns will stop the a 10 Ive done it

[@kibathemechanic4967]

Speaking of Tomcats....any news?

[@grimreapers]

neg

[@kibathemechanic4967]

Perfect opportunity for a "Negative, Ghostrider" missed...

[@dabe4506]

30mm air-brake, lol.

[@lt3228]

AAAAAHHHH!!! First attempt by both jets- Totally gooned up. Yes, Tail got on but was way to fast and should've been waved off. Second attempt. Cap was hi at the start settled in the middle and was low at the end. Would've got a no grade pass if his hooked didn't bounce. Third was low and fast for both but its clear Tail has been practicing:) The other thing is that Cap is flirting with an in-flight engagement which will scare the sh*t out of you! And why are you guys doing left hand orbit on the Boat?!? I said it before... AAAAHHHH!!!! :)

[@Cenils00]

Lambert T LH orbit is a special emplyed only by F5s XD

[@lt3228]

When Cap went around the first time and banked right, the first thing I thought was "CAG is going to pull his wings" :)

[@Stahlwollvieh]

Lol great to see that my improvised do or die tandem landing in a mission that I was signed up to against my will by someone who won't be named *cough* _Tail_ *cough* *cough* has started a trend. :D #DidItBeforeItWasCool

[@grimreapers]

LOLs silly Stahl

[@kontoname]

And that kind of attitude, amongst other ridiculous things, is why you're my least favorite GR member. :)

[@Stahlwollvieh]

I can live with that, Cap still loves me. :3

[@Stahlwollvieh]

Actually on second thought: What are the other ridiculous things? :D

[@kontoname]

Acting like a *bleep*, causing unecessary trouble / crashes, attitude problems, annoying on voice / cursing, acting way over your skill level. Flown with you twice. Let's leave it at that.