F/A-18C Hornet Vs Chinese J-16 Flanker Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: Growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com Thinking About Getting Into DCS?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZu1l5Rtp6ylaq8&ab_channel=GrowlingSidewinder The Hornet is a great module to get started with, I highly recommend it, and remember to use code "Growling" for 10% off at checkout on all ED modules, Thanks for watching guys.

[@andrewruss5824]

Ok I will

[@OperatorMustang51]

Oki doki

[@Tyroniusmaximus92]

Want

[@thepilotman5378]

You should try practicing the spin recovery switch. It is basically a hornet's Cobra button

[@adspie]

made in ccp china plane is useless.

[@AlexConnor_]

That's a Su-30 variant, J-16 doesn't have canards or thrust vectoring. Does have better missiles/radar though and some weight reduction compared to a Su-30.

[@a.c9993]

SU-30Mkm

[@originalcolor]

Yes, you are right.

[@masonsong5304]

exactly!!!

[@su47forever]

also lighter overall weight, better avionics and radar than the su-30variants

[@xaviernicolas7218]

I’m a msfs 2020 user wondering if I’m going to get into dcs. Your videos are the most interesting to watch by far. You evidently put a lot of work into them.I may never start flying this sim but I subscribed and enjoy watching your videos. Great editing.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you very much, I appreciate the comments, hope you decide to join our little community the more the merrier.

[@chefboyarb]

I think you’ll love it. I recently started playing a few days ago but I know a shit ton due to gs’s vids and the help of others . I main the f18 and I’ve honestly been getting good at it. I dropped my first jdams on target today😂 🎊

[@weseethehypeoutside]

i accidentally found your channel. best accident ever. ive started to love fighter jets again! keep up the great work!

[@DrkPhenix-gm9dq]

Me too mate. Found his videos like a year ago ehile searching for Jet videos. And I started to love DCS and his advices and views on them.

[@maitreytelang2312]

Same mate.

[@Ganiscol]

The Swiss Air Force air show squadron with their vintage F/A-18 (with avionics mods) show how good the platform is at very low speed with maneuvers that make you think the plane has thrust vectoring - its stunning to watch. Of course these maneuvers arent necessarily useful in a dogfight, but it still underscores the capability of the plane. There are plenty of videos of the Patrouille Suisse here on youtube if you like the plane and mad flying skills making it shine.

[@rodneypayne4827]

I've seen the RAAF Hornet do the same moves IRL at the Australian international airshow. Unfortunately won't be seeing them again because of the replacement by F35s who also so impressive moves as well. My favourite move was the low speed high alfa, it was barely moving forward at stall and could hold it without dropping into the ground.

[@valenrn8657]

@@rodneypayne4827 F-35A Block 3i is said to be "Hornet with a turbo". Better with F-35A Block 3F (9G). From Norwegian pilot in late 2015 (to counter David Axe's F-35A AF-02 unit vs F-16D in Jan 2015) I quote _Overall, flying the F-35 reminds me a bit of flying the F/A-18 Hornet, but with an important difference: It has been fitted with a turbo_

[@valenrn8657]

Swiss F/A-18C are the 9G varaint.

[@valenrn8657]

Both Fins and Swiss are buying F-35A Block 4 since it's direct improvements over F/A-18C. Terms of dogfight doctrine, F-35A Block 3F fights like 9G Hornet with F-16's acceleration and roll rates.

[@92sepp]

@Ganiscol: The Patrouille Suisse is flying the Tiger F-5. You might speak of the swiss F/A-18 Hornet Solo Display which is using a F/A-18 (as the name says) and which is very impressive indeed!

[@jedibusiness789]

Flying the multi role Hornet mission aside, the breakthrough was low maintenance hours compared to F4, A7, A4, F8 aircraft. Spent 8 years fixing 40+ in two RAG squadrons. DCS doesn’t have a maintenance modules. Keep up the good fight GS.

[@alanshah3018]

Bitchin’ Betty’s “Roll left! Roll left!” saved GS today, and many other Hornet drivers over the years

[@jamses23]

I would love to see more of the mission style videos with you and several wingmen going up against multiple enemies. Would love a multiple F-14B vs a mixed SU/MiG group with some bombers where you have to protect the carrier. Either way, keep up the great content!

[@job568]

I just bought the f18 and im still waiting on my hotas. Thank you for the little tips between fights and explaining the basics in tacview! your video's are the reason i want to get into dcs!

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

I just started yesterday on the SU-25 in vr and I have the thrusmaster t600, the game runs slow and I need to turn the graphics to the lowest setting, I'm completely lost, ill get the hang of it but keep in mind that the key binds take hours to make and figure out.

[@l8knight845]

@@toyotawitha20mm35 LOL, welcome to DCS. I'm 300 hours in and still feel completely lost half the time.

[@foreignmandirector]

Oh man - the F18 is a beast of a plane.. you're going to love it!

[@davidwildberger6656]

@@toyotawitha20mm35 graphics cards dropping in price save for upgrade another month and should be near msrp

[@TheVaman117]

the discount code is actually a pretty sweet deal, is that ongoing on just a partnership for a limited time? Love your videos, always look forward to seeing that notification of a new dogfight!

[@BADBADGER18]

Had the same question

[@alexboydston1274]

I think it’s long term cause i feel like most of his recent videos have had the discount in them

[@TheVaman117]

@@alexboydston1274 Looks like I have some catching up to do! Thanks for the reply, that's an exciting partnership. I have only played DCS for a year or so, but I have never seen a discount coupon until now!

[@f18murderhornet]

its for 30 days only

[@neilwu9356]

Growling is like the guy who seems to be new at a game, failing to fly normally, but as long as he joins in action, dodging 4 missiles, shooting down 5 bandit is a piece of cake for him.

[@MiguelMitchelMichiel]

Damn, they even recreated Bitchin' Betty in DCS ("Roll left, Roll left!"). The details in this game surprise me sometimes.

[@fatmarlin4674]

The tac debrief was amazing! Thank you!!! Really does help me as a new viewer understand what's happening in the fight!! I didn't realize the areal ballet that took place until you really started to move the camera.

[@Lortz2610]

I've watched a ton of your Dogfight videos recently, but this one was the most intense, at least to my feeling. That first hit which blew off the nose, yet not destroying the J-16 was amazing. Also I was about to ask for clarification regarding one-circle and two-circle and all of a sudden the explanation comes in this TacView. Fantastic!

[@SpencerAK74M]

Dude in the sailboat is getting a helluva show

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

4:50 - I don't think I've ever heard "Bitchin' Betty" actually sound scared before, but that computer needs a change of underwear!

[@strambino1]

Thank you very much for the video! I’ve been waiting for this one!

[@Me-nf8gk]

“Bitching Betty” doing her job at 4:50! Nice recovery.

[@NoHope_]

11:13 well technically, it is someone forcing themselves on someone's tail that doesn't want them there 😂

[@Metaladict97]

I've replayed the cinematic "near hit the ground" moment of the round 2 like 20 times, how epic it is omg

[@tgsgardenmaintenance4627]

Many many years ago I sat in the cockpit of AN FA-18 at Greenham Common when they were brand spanking new, it was soo futuristic at the time. Probably long before you were born! 😂

[@HUgdJHf64]

J-16 shouldn't have canard, it's mainly designed as strike fighter for ground missions. it also doesn't use Russian munitions, instead it used mainly domestic PL10/15/21.

[@SupaMan2122]

Is it called peoples liberation missile?

[@miguelgil7266]

@@SupaMan2122 No 霹雳(Pi-Li) for thunderbolt

[@向晚大魔王-g9m]

@@SupaMan2122 霹（pī）雳（lì）

[@Arcamensios]

The amount of low on that shot of you nearly scraping plane belly 🔥🔥🔥

[@slowlylosingmysanity9726]

at first i only watched you for the f22 dogfights but now after seeing this battle i think these dogfights are alot more thrilling, more action and stuff i think its because the f22 just got so overpowered every battle is won with ease, its become so good that in just one circle the enemy is dead which completely takes off the thrill and fun in it. this has encouraged me to try new things and watch more videos of yours other than the f22 dogfights

[@Minutemman]

This is why I love the Hornet it gets in there does its job and gets out successful, plus it is a sexy plane.

[@Zayn._gnx]

Its a simulation calm down

[@rickstark85]

I'm wondering how many are like me and follow this channel simply because they're fascinated with fighter jets and don't play any sort of video games at all and barely know anything about flight or air to air combat, besides what they've learned here? Like, this stuff occupies 0% of my life. I'm not into it like that, but I really enjoy these videos, and I've learned so much from watching. I watch pretty much every video in its entirety, and I enjoy it. 🤷‍♂️

[@kevinl2482]

"Very important, this is a "t". Not to be mistaken for a "p", okay? as many people have done, okay"

[@Noisy_Cricket]

Betty saved GS's life in the second vid lol

[@frightfulbuffalo7081]

Don't mess with the Hornet.

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

Don't mess with flanker.

[@chairpara]

3:34 that was a 🔥SPICY fight 4:44 terrain near miss

[@nWoPaullywood]

was gettin worried bud, glad to see another vid. any thoughts on the YF 23 Black Widow?

[@chunkmen]

So I doubt you will see this GS but I wanted to post it anyways. I ended up getting DCS because of your videos and how cool every one of your videos are after playing about 2 hours on the keyboard (and it being broken in the current version of dcs apparently) I got a flight stick and decided to try it that way and even then the frogfoot IMO just isnt fun to play and I was going to stop playing till I saw this video and you suggested the f-18 and I took the jump to get it and I have to say the F-18 is dramatically more fun, forgiving, reactive and overall just a more enjoyable plane to fly I have now been flying it for about 3 hours almost through the training missions for it and im so excited to actually get into the missions for it. Thank you.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Hi man, really glad you decided to give the hornet a chance, the su25 is good and all but its really just a plane to mess around with for a limited time to get familiar with the sim, and also to see if your PC can even run it. (there are people who live and die by the su25, but its not for everyone) but ya the hornet is a great starter aircraft and has huge potential for stuff for people to practice and learn. so, great purchase in terms of bang for your buck. Glad to have you in the community.

[@chunkmen]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I really appreciate the response! I am really happy to have seen your videos and be part of your and dcs' community you are a great informative and positive representation!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@chunkmen thank you very much I apprecaite the support of subs like yourself. All the best.

[@GingahJ]

God i love the betty on this thing roll left call legit saved you lol its saved my friend a few times in low alt fights too

[@jjay718]

I grew up loving the F16 and did buy the module along with the 14 and 18. I got invited into a Navy group though and decided to start out with the 18 as it also matched my Winwing hotas. Now that I have flown it for a month or so I love the 18. I have not even got into combat yet just learning procedures, arial refueling, navigation, formation flying, and case 1 carrier landings. I still want to get some seat time in the 16 and 14 after I have a good understanding of all the systems in the 18.

[@nicholasrowan387]

The close proximity between two aircraft in a dogfight like this really explains a lot about what is going on

[@mattmiller27]

That blue note @ 5:08 🤌🏻

[@skyhorseprice6591]

DCS Community at large-- "We love ya, GS, we really do. You have taught us all so much....but, bruh! Do you ever lose?" GS: "I may not lose very often, but when I do it's because I took a missile to the face and died." 😹😅😂🤣🤟🤟🤟🤟 _Edit: Hi, this is Growling Sidewinder, the Most Interesting Virtual Pilot In The World. I'm here to tell you that I may not always Floor Mort, but when I do, I like to save myself by pulling last minute Desperate High AoA Maneuvers at such low altitudes that, at the lowermost point the bottom of my jet is separated from the ground by an altitude so small that its only valid measurements are below Planck length! I truly enjoy the many vivid comments I receive detailing the lower intestinal disturbances that such moments incur!_

[@Darth.Fluffy]

Dude! I saw an F18 crash just like that (5:07) at MCAS El Toro while eating lunch at the ops building. He was practicing for an airshow the next day. He almost made it. Almost.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Also known as "How GS goes skiing with the F/A-18" LOL Good save :)

[@ralfhtg1056]

Answering to your quote at the beginning of the video: "A specialist is somebody who understands more and more about less and less. But a true master must be versed in many things." - Japanese proverb

[@ClawsNGloves]

AA-11 Archer "wow that thing can turn", Aim-9X "hold my beer"

[@miguelruiz8183]

GS finally someone who is fighting in the Hornet the way it should be fighting!!!

[@mobiuszero1018]

"The hornet can literally do EVERYTHING"... Viper:Am I a joke to you? :P

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

buttttt can the viper do carrier opreations ?

[@demonman1234]

My first full fidelity was the A-10C, 2nd was the F/A-18C hornet. Honestly, love them both and they're very fun to fly. A-10C is a bit harder to fly and use but worth it as it gives you a ton to learn and do. Though, I never understood why people said the A-10C was "hard" as I found it decently easy to learn... then again I was passionate about it and love the A-10 in general, and dogfighting/a2a isn't really my thing, rather be using my Mavericks or rockets/the 30mm cannon (:

[@Revon-Feuer]

Dude you're so good at the simulator I bet you could shred people with the worst aircraft dcs has.

[@truthseeker9454]

4:42 - GS splashes his opponent, with a little added disrespect. 6:42 - His opponent expresses his feeling about that. LOL!

[@clarencevaughan5798]

Man that was close call. Almost used a F18 to build Sandcastles. Would of went down to be the expensive toy shovel ever.

[@jeandelenfant]

The difference between “t” and “p” has never been more important

[@calebvaughan601]

Love that hornet scream!

[@danniserendret4301]

You can judge the F/A-18C by it looks but you can't judge it's capability to fight

[@baomao7243]

Fight 1 reminded me of the downing of that Mi-24 Hind two days ago, when I remembered those famous GS words, “Shot in the face. Total disrespect.”

[@onyxcourt]

Growling mowing some dude's lawn in that second fight

[@christianarboleda7872]

J-16s have canards????? I thought the J-15s had them.

[@zoots15]

Thanks GS. Good to see some Hornet content again

[@DGG.85]

Love the hornet vid, learned a lot from this one, keep em going!

[@maitreytelang2312]

Hey GS, love your content. Just wanted to suggest a video of Su-30 MKI and Rafale Vs J-11B and J-16. Or maybe a Su-30 MKI Vs Rafale engagement.

[@joeypecorino92]

Craving some more WW1 VR content. That stuff makes my palms sweat just watching!

[@spooch3257]

4:49 Betty is always watching

[@franksheeran9243]

5:09 if there had been a trash can sitting there you'd be dead meat

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

When that Battlefield Theme kicks in! :D

[@TLBgaming0330]

5:07 That was very, very spicy right there.

[@hartunstart]

The jack of all trades even does the lawn mower. 4:50.

[@Wolfeboy212]

It's interesting how the Hornet and J-16 come to the same capability different ways. The Hornet is relatively underpowered but light and twitchy, the Flanker/J16 is thicc but OVERpowered and uses them canards.

[@luckyno888]

This video contains more than the daily suggested serving of DISRESPECT.

[@ravendedanaan3425]

Where I work, we would have to file #2 as a "Near Accident Report"

[@sheldonshniklefritz95]

Siri is short for Sigrid, it means Beautiful Victory. Also happens to be my cats name.

[@pflaumentv1210]

My guy was putting out chaff to avoid the second fox 2 in the first round 💀💀💀

[@eg395]

Nice job Marine! Go back to the carrier and get some chow. Lol

[@slyveonboi5910]

gotta love the engine howl on the F-18 though

[@b0sscaner]

I love the Fox-2 dogfights, they are my favorite.

[@peterweller8583]

Ha ha ha a little ground effect for number two LOL

[@PoppaChrih]

Just realized I wasn’t even subscribed and I’ve been watching at least one video a day for like a month. Time to fix that!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks, and welcome to the channel.

[@b2tall239]

GS with a little unintentional Blue Angels stuff there after round 2 😁

[@rickywarner6199]

Famous last words oh that missiles good

[@MigotRen]

9:26 That 9X is impressive tho. I mean that is a 45 degree offset to the nose. And all while you still had downward mometum and the j16 was already in a climb. And that was still a pretty safe shot.

[@RaptorJesus]

Apparently your engines wanted to eskimo-kiss the ground, damn.

[@davidca96]

flayught controuwhls, flayught controuwhls, I love (beep)in betty.

[@djchrismac]

One of these days you will hit the deck! :D

[@zachboyd4749]

Time for the Chinese to feel the Hornet’s sting!

[@bigoof1105]

Those Afghan children were no match, time for a more worthy opponent!

[@michaelye1536]

@@bigoof1105 Actually US failed in Afghanistan also.

[@kcmsterpce]

4:50 I was like "omg OMg OMG!!" hahaha

[@garykirk1968]

Love seeing my Hornets get a little love for once..

[@Issi808]

I can't wait until the F-35 becomes declassified so we can have a full fidelity model to play with

[@valenrn8657]

F-35A Block 3i = "Hornet with a turbo".

[@briandp0560]

I loved the GS F18 tail slap end of round 2….

[@frtknokr583]

Round 3 D-oh, lost both wings.

[@JohnnyBravo58]

I'll watch this in the morning, 8 hours later

[@shadowtrooper1]

Soo, technical differences can mean life or death for a pilot but in the end, who wins or loses a dogfight ultimately depends on the skill of the pilot.

[@TheCulturedMan34]

You NEED a montage of clips of you taking a missile to the face. Call it "Moneyshot" or "No Not My Face!!!"

[@X-26YT]

i like how the first battle the f 18 just dies and does nothing

[@baomao7243]

5:05 Can you imagine witnessing this fight then HEARING that ultra low altitude fly by ? 😳

[@magatsu5252]

Imagine being directly below those thrusters getting fried

[@scollins731]

LOL that was so close to the ground

[@Ankhobo]

5:09 how GS picks up hitchhikers

[@subjectc7505]

I'm almost fully invest to get the Hornet for its multi role and the F-16 for its speed and agility. All though my virtual country air force doesn't have hornet's 😅

[@foreignmandirector]

This must be a 1st generation J-16 (russian engine) rather than the newer variant with the 'home grown' Chinese engine.. the fact that it's flying for more than 2 minutes is a complete give-away!

[@kidsarebadcheckmychannel949]

racism am i right guys

[@bigoof1105]

Why even bother defending Taiwan? Chinese army won't be able to make it across the strait before sinking. Am I right guys? Guys?

[@kenchen704]

lmao you are such a good memer, I love it

[@foreignmandirector]

@@bigoof1105 haha.. well, 130km stretch of water doesn't make an easy crossing for a military with no real operational experience in conflict.. drills and exercises are one thing.. coordinating and playing out a multi-domain strategy when coastal defences are raining hell-fire down on you is another..

[@foreignmandirector]

@@JohnKuang-rf6fb unfortunately, not a joke.. do your research

[@davidhendricks8699]

Like to see the f-16 With thrust vectoring and f-18 with canards.

[@toyotawitha20mm35]

It would flat spin too often, the f16 doesn't work with thrust vectoring.

[@davidhendricks8699]

@@toyotawitha20mm35 seen it from air force records it was awesome ,did you see tape ? If you haven't seen a video try looking it up, it might change your mind .thanks

[@scottwood4143]

I've heard about target fixation. But never seen it till now!!

[@DomNero1011]

Not sure what kind of early jets you have access to via DCS but anything from the late 40s to mid 50s would be cool to see again on your channel

[@shots-shots-shotseverybody2707]

Super Hornet is a great fighter I have a super hornet fighter in my family the only gripe he has is it's underpowered but he loves how fast he can get that nose around

[@Mike45978]

I love watching a master at work. I have the FA-18 and F-16, but the A-10 keeps calling me back. I really like flying ground support. One of these days I'm going to need to start focusing on Air to Air training, because there are so many cool looking campaigns coming for my fighters.

[@e_norrby]

5:05 imma just kiss the ground, one second

[@WazGamer]

Good thing you didn’t have the hook down in Round Two.