F1's WORST Street Circuit! | Is It Really That Bad? | 1984 Dallas Grand Prix

[@ekosim-racing754]

By the way, the big giant man is called "Big Tex": he’s the mascot of the Dallas Fair Park fair 😊

[@ekosim-racing754]

I made that track initially for the sim, what you’re driving there is just a conversion of what I did for F1C that had been converted to rf1.. which somehow found its way to AC by tiers… I’ve remade a more correct version of it and am upgrading it now. Would you mind redoing your video? (I hate my older version, I didn’t know how to do details back then, now I’ve got a pretty accurate layout of what it was in real life). Cheers and nice video

[@ekosim-racing754]

Glad you liked my sim version of Dallas Fair Park for the sim anyhow, you’ll much certainly enjoy my current upgraded version

[@blackaces26]

That was fun. I worked for Toleman at this race.

[@MotorMad]

Nice! 👍

[@Villoresi]

It was the Can-Am II cars (basically F5000s with fenders) that seemed to do the most to tear up the track surface there at Dallas, aside from the F1 cars themselves. CART never went to Dallas, Fair Park. They did go to a much simplified, "modified oval" layout at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas in 1983-84. SCCA Trans-Am went to Dallas, Fair Park, on a ridiculously short course, in 1988. Senna also hit the wall in '84, literally because somebody else hit that particular barrier before him and moved it. The team went to verify his claim that the wall moved, and he was right. Honestly, I'd say, on the average, the 1983 F1 cars look even funkier than the '84 crop. Comparing to the actual onboard lap and race coverage, various parts of this rendering of the circuit definitely seem wider than the actual thing. The fastest lap of the event was a 1:37.041, which around the 2.424-mile circuit, gives you an average speed of just 89.925 mph. For reference, the 1985 mark at Monaco is 92.092 mph. It doesn't help that Dallas was a parking lot circuit, and looked like one, that, or an American industrial wasteland kind of, on the TV coverage. It should be Patrick Tambay in the Renault. The harbor Chicane at Monaco was a lot faster than this. Your final lap, with multiple, significant errors, was about a 1:41, and like I said, the Qualifying record here was a 1:37. Fast Lap during the race was a 1:45.353. So this track model is being a bit generous in how quickly you can actually go. Not only was Monaco shorter but faster at the time, but Adelaide, too, was shorter, and significantly faster than Dallas on average speed. Even Detroit in '86 eclipsed Dallas on speed with the Pole at 91.556 mph. Compared to the more developed parts of Europe, you kind of have to expect American roads to be in worse condition, especially nowadays. Also, in 1989, F1 made the same mistake again with regards to the heat, holding Phoenix in June. The newer "street circuits" in F1 aren't really street circuits anymore, with the exceptions of the bulk of Singapore and the one, tighter section at Baku. I guess we'll see about Las Vegas. But really, Valencia, Abu Dhabi, Yeongam (depending on how you look at it), Sochi, most of Baku, Jeddah, Melbourne increasingly, and Miami are practically just about purpose-built circuits.

[@MotorMad]

I'm pretty certain that this is a conversion from somewhere else & I had noticed it looked slightly different than the actual circuit. Would be nice to have a proper built one for ac at some point 👍

[@detonator2112]

Ironically Dallas 1984 GP was one of the best races of the decade. A lot of overtaking and proper racing. Watch that race from Speed Machines Forever channel. Just watched it yesterday.