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[@kacper8562]

Pro tip: if you tell the airports atc you're approaching, they'll turn the rwy lights on for you. Would've definitly helped you out on that final.

[@MrMulkerrins]

how ?

[@erfguuipo8084]

@@MrMulkerrins f12 button, then f5, then f1.

[@vishwaskarmarkar9932]

ATC tower has a rotating beacon, also VASI, and QTE/QDM support from ATC R/T. It's always better to utilise all aids at your disposal.

[@schizz7041311]

"Shut up woman" LMAO!!!

[@DavidGPT]

"Pre-historic ADF" xD

[@schizz7041311]

Cap often drops a Gem out of nowhere.

[@mariushusejacobsen3221]

My favorite method to do this is to set a waypoint at the runway threshold. In caucasus, kneeboard has the coordinates. With WP DSG you then get a nice marker for where the runway begins - line it up at the right course and 3 degrees below the horizon, and you're on the glideslope. This works even without TACAN at the airfield, but it's easy to miss being blown off course by crosswind. "Works every time, fingers crossed" - Cap

[@Jwalker21NC]

Runway radials are in your kneeboard cap! Just so you don’t have to draw a line 😊

[@michaeltorode8689]

The miles to runway X3 for Elevation has REALLY helped and not seen that explained anywhere else....thanks!

[@sapperfella2799]

Northern hemisphere Mag to Grid get rid Grid to Mag add Southern hemisphere is the opposite Mag= Magnetic Grid= Map

[@georgemathiellis5486]

that 6 degrees correction was a great tip. I was always coming at an odd angle to the runway . Thanks !

[@isactucker3788]

Just wanted to say that I am glad you are feeling well. its nice to see you back.

[@wantdatcadpat44]

by far one of the most useful tutorials I found thanks so much, been watching for years now

[@RicCrouch]

Just another couple of tips here. Setting your altimeter to radar altimeter rather than barometric is not the best idea. The terrain between you and the runway can (and does) slope, sometimes very significantly, which can really mess with your glide path. A better technique is to note the airfield's elevation (as shown at 1:25) and add the altitude you want to be above that. In this case, the field is at 43 ft MSL, so at the start you would want to be at 3043. At the higher airports like Beslan which is at about 1670 feet, you'd have flown 4670. Also important to note is that improvised approaches like this don't in ANY way guarantee that you won't hit the terrain. For instance, if you tried this technique landing north in Khasab on the PG map, you'd have a close encounter of the granite kind. This is in contrast to actual published instrument approaches which have been checked to make sure you will be clear of terrain when you follow them.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@abdulrafay1509]

"Shut up women" Betty: *Shuts up*

[@StarLightPL]

WOW. Just wow. Props to that guy, props to that guy.

[@equalsql7508]

Very cool. Enjoyed that immensely and now know what I've got planned for the next day

You can actually see the correct angle of the runway using the "Pilot kneeboard" (K for default) searching for the runway you are going to use. You can even see its frecuency in order to set communications with them, to inform about your aproximation and to request landing. Hope this is usefull.

[@grimreapers]

thx

@@grimreapers OMG the real Grim Reaper

[@rama7267]

It doesnt say it anywhere there on the page of the airport on the kneeboard

@@rama7267 You are refering to the angle of approach or the comms?

[@rama7267]

@ the angle of approach for the airports

[@Pablo_lens]

6:22 that made me chuckle lmao

[@3dmax911]

شرح رائع كالعادة استمر يا بطل Great tutorial as usual keep it going champ

[@darrendegouff9965]

Cap, you zero visibility landings are nothing short of spectacular. Every time I put in a keyword search for any aircraft I'm flying, I click and then hear "welcome back to the reapers." Thanks so much for these videos. They help a new dcs pilot with a slew of information that he's me proficient in any aircraft I try. Thank you sir. I WILL be joining the Reapers when I get a little better

[@amosmoses8656]

Brilliantly done.

[@lambdacalculus8316]

Magnetic north, aha! Cap saved my day, again!

[@tony9146]

Typically love your videos and they've been very helpful in my learning but I have to be honest, this one was the exception. The useful info was in the comments for this vid.

[@simondissimondis6086]

Helps me a lote thanks :-)

[@vishwaskarmarkar9932]

Airfield information is meant to give ALL data. Including the runway threshold height. So also locations of TACAN/NDB beacons wrt the airport location (ARP).

[@gkourv]

Great video as always. It would be also great if you could upload the mission files for this kind of videos. Thanks.

[@eknight101]

Another video suggested designating the threshold of the runway as a waypoint so that you can aim your vector directly at it. I guess it takes the guess work out of where your glide slope is.

[@hollowpoint5732]

When I type in the coordinates for the waypoint it always ends up either too far left of the runway or too far right. It’s never where I put the coordinates in for. I’ve double checked everything I did and can’t seem to find the reason. Any help?

[@darrenpurves6150]

Love your videos,, Bloody Bloody hehe

[@badgerw7997]

Loving these videos. Only comment is I wouldn’t use the radalt for the approach as you are just going to get changing heights due to the terrain below you. Set the correct pressure on the baralt, the QFE. Anyhow, thanks again for the videos, really helping me work out DCS. 👍

[@why5oserious274]

hey, nice Tutorial. Can you explain how i change the Bearing in the hornet to ture bearing if i dont know the offset to a region?

[@despacito111]

Any idea how much offset we need to the left/right of the tacan to land it with 0 visual?

[@pastorjaimediaz2701]

amaziiiinnnnn

[@gaming_4_life584]

Because i am new subscriber how many moneys did you spend to dcs and to your pc for recording and playing so good dcs

[@One_Piloty_Boy]

Cap my man, there is no ILS on our F-18s other than ICLS. you can do a VOR approach or a TACAN approach which are more or less very similar and maybe an NDB if it’s high enough frequency. Landing systems are not ILSs exclusively, they encompass VOR, NDB, HI-and Normal TACAN, ILS, Localisers, RNAV, and any other subtype of system that helps you get to the ground in IMC.

[@MRBIG-lg9zl]

Says the guy that can't spell localizer

[@infotechsailor]

Did u even watch the video nick?

[@hermanshelton3660]

That was some damn fine flying.

[@p4p3rm4t3]

Nice MacGyver ILS. I wonder if you couldn't just gps mark the runway threshold then fly your hornet into it at AOA and dirty. Master Arm my ILS ;)

[@jarisipilainen3875]

you did know tacan not on runway so why you follow course when you could fly right side of it

[@Le-Naka]

a little bit old, but Cap, why didn't you just put a waypoint on the head of the runway and then asign it as a target. You just have to align the velocity vector to the target point in the correct course line and done.

[@Dave_ess]

Is it always -6 regardless of direction of approach to that, or other runways? Any idea of the offset for Persian gulf?

[@grimreapers]

Pg is like +14 I heard? weird

[@MrTurbohampster]

@@grimreapers Magnetic variation varies by location. This is because magnetic north pole is not in the same place as true north. Aviation charts and approach charts show the local mag variation. To work out weather to subtract or add the variation remember "West is best" East is least" i.e. 5degW magnetic variation you add 5deg to true to get magnetic course and vice versa for east. Also not a great idea to use the radio altimeter for an approach as it only tells you your altitude above the ground directly below the aircraft, not above the airfield. So if you are flying over uneven terrain its goes all over the place. You should fly it on barometric alt using the QFE setting which will give you your height above the field. Or use QNH and the add the airport elevation to all your heights, i.e. if field elev is 300ft @ 10miles you should be 3000ft + 300ft = 3300ft, 5miles 1500ft + 300ft=1800ft etc. Also don't forget that the Tacan was is the middle of the field so you need to account for that when doing your distance height calculations

[@justinp3653]

Thanks cap I could never figure out why my tacan approaches were always off, I don’t think I would have ever figured out magnetic vs true bearings. Where would you even find information like that?

[@grimreapers]

Trial an error lol

[@NCash17]

Go to www.skyvector.com , this website provides aeronautical sectionals which include lines of magnetic variation. Find the airport you’ll be landing at and locate the closest line of magnetic variation. If the variation is East you subtract from your true heading and if it is Westerly variation you will add. For example if the runway was on a heading of 194 with a magnetic variation of 8 degrees east In the region your magnetic heading will be 186. Magnetic variation changes from time to time as the earths molten core shifts around but it should be accurate enough for what’s modeled in DCS.

[@xRays6]

In the Aerodrom Legend page of the kneeboard - bottom right

[@Glennovan]

@@xRays6 in addition to this, in order to calc what your true or compass course would be, there is a pneumonic to help “Variation East, Compass Least. Variation West, Compass best” in simple terms, If the variation is easy your compass will have the “least” or the smaller reading” if variation is west, compass will have the higher reading. Hope this helps!

[@bife9432]

1:42 There is a better way: the airfield info kneeboard has all of the information need for these things, like the heading.

[@GotSpaceGame]

Is there any way to designate a target waypoint at the end of the runway so that it shows on the HUD during approach?... Could be helpful in keeping on glideslope after you've fixed at 1 mile / 3k feet.

[@grimreapers]

That's actually a super cool idea.

[@GotSpaceGame]

@@grimreapers I tried it out on a VFR landing last night as i wasn't sure if the target box would stay on the HUD with the gear down, but it does so it should work a treat in IMC!

[@jarekgajda]

Hello, some very good tips! Are you sure you are allowed to use radar altimeter in an IFR approach? Maybe it is just DCS, but I suppose you should consult with an approach map and use MSL indication with a correct QNH setting. You could get into some serious trouble using radar alt.

[@grimreapers]

Yes I agree with you, but Im just trying to keep it super simple for ppl

[@jarekgajda]

@@grimreapers ok, understood! No pun intended! :)

[@MadCat1381]

@@grimreapers Very good video! As always. But using the radar altimeter isn't a good idea at all as you're assuming a dead flat ground profile along your approach, wich almost never occours above land.

[@dragoonTT]

How capable are the Canadian CF-18's in a modern battle setting? Great content as always.

[@ghostviggen]

42

[@dragoonTT]

@@ghostviggen , I thought we talked about this, Deep Thought?

[@Lb8068]

I don’t think you should be using the radar altimeter on an approach like this - though I would appreciate feedback if I’m wrong. The rad/alt won’t accomodate the fact that the field may be elevated from the rest of the terrain around it, so you could hit a valley on your approach. As a real world example, this was one of the factors that contributed to the 2010 Smolensk air disaster that killed the Polish President in 2008. A lot of the tips in this video are very valuable though! I would just suggest using your barometric altimeter instead and, at the ten mile mark, using 3000 feet + (air field’s elevation ASL) to begin your descent.

[@grimreapers]

Completely agreed. I have learned a LOT since making this. Will re-do when I get a minute.

[@sschreck]

@Grim Reapers how do you tell the magnetic and map bearings difference was 6 degrees? I don’t really understand.

[@andrewwest7875]

The G-M Angle actually changes with time, which I doubt is modeled in DCS. The short answer is to google the "magnetic declination" or "magnetic variation" for an area... Cairo, Egypt for example. You don't always subtract. It depends where on the planet in question.

[@HaganDave]

There is an ILS Manual switch on the left console, next to the ILS channel selector. I think it's for manual ILS frequency input, but id doesn't work. Nothing about this switch in the manual.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@zihaowang5850]

Hornet does NOT equipped with ILS system, only TACAN and ICLS.

[@kevykevTPA]

Reapers, I absolutely love you guys, and I'm hoping to improve my skills enough in the not-too-distant future to join y'all on one of your servers. That said, this video is BAD advice, and is just begging to create a CFIT incident. If the weather is as bad as depicted in this video, unless the jet has CAT IIIc automated ILS capabilities (and if it's true it doesn't even have a simple ILS like the 152 I learned to fly in does, it damn sure doesn't have that), under FAA regs this approach is completely illegal. Legalities aside, what if there is a large hill in between you and the airport? Find and fly an actual approach, or go elsewhere. Now I'm off to watch more of your videos, aside from my issues with this one, I think they're fantastic, and go over minor details other tutorial type vids don't, which is great for noobs like me.

[@mcdjay]

Hey Cap, I have tried different ways to make the AMPCD more readable while the map is on but have not had any luck. What do you use to make it so clear?? BTW, i love all of your vids.

[@grimreapers]

Everything for me is standard BUT remember that there are controls on the screen to change brightness, contrast etc.

[@dustinglenn829]

I know this is a year old but new hornet Drivers may find this. I completely lower my brightness nearly all the way and completely lower the contrast to 1, as well as putting THE MPCD into night mode. Very easy to read after that

[@BorisJohnsonMayor]

Followed your tut step by step. However when I set the course line and fly to intercept it, it never actually meets up with me. it goes on forever to the point where i overshoot my course line for approach. any ideas? this is when trying to land at Senaki-Kholki. I put the correct TACAN which is 31X, and put the course line to 088 degrees which is the magnetic version as stated by the Aerodrome map i used to plan.

[@grimreapers]

I've never heard of this, any had this course line problem??

[@BorisJohnsonMayor]

@@grimreapers Managed to figure it out. Not sure if it's a bug or not but this is what I did... I turned off D/L, turned TCN off then on again, added the CSEL and did a 360 to begin intercept. I then scaled HSI to 160 and back to 5 and that 'reset' my problem and it now works...

[@gehteuchnixan4156]

y'know you can use the CPL Autopilto for the Course Approachvertical attitude is not locked :)

[@lonnyhandwork422]

Just for clarity to satisfy my OCD - real Tacan approaches don’t work this way at all. This is a hack (and perfectly valid to do in a game!) but you’d loose your ticket if you did this in the real world. (And an aside: most F18 variants have ILS. It’s just the USN version (and maybe Marine?) that has ICLS.)

[@bjrnchrstn]

"Shutup woman" 😂😂

[@MarkShawMedia]

Do you have a link to a video that shows how to land at a runway WITHOUT a tacan station?

[@grimreapers]

IFR on airfield without tacan? not possible as far as I know in Hornet

[@MarkShawMedia]

@@grimreapers I'm a total newbie at this. You mentioned other ways to find the runway, I was just curious if there was a way to land on runways without tacan at all.

[@whitenoise509]

Kneeboard + waypoint designate (for anyone who still has this question.)

[@CMike_]

at 1:44, i dont have the ruler tool on my map?

[@grimreapers]

You must have?!?! it's at the top.

[@MrRyuuzakiiii]

How you draw that line at 1:48?

[@Qwonk]

Two years late but you have to select ruler on the F10 map

[@knighttemplar4058]

Hello thank you for your video...but how did you find the difference between true and magnetic ?92-6=86??

[@grimreapers]

Just google it, general non-aviation knowledge.

[@grimreapers]

"magnetic variation"

[@knighttemplar4058]

@@grimreapers thank you for your answer ! and for your help :)

[@bryanbishop2377]

Is that plus or minus on the true vs magnetic??? 🤨

[@grimreapers]

True to Mag = minus (Cauc and PG)

[@mariussandulache8473]

"Shut up woman" 😂😂😂

[@AizenSousuke92]

6:22 That's how I deal with my wife when she gets nasty

[@HuDz1966]

Am I reading this wrong or was the localiser way off to the left when he touched down on the runway??

[@grimreapers]

remember that Tacan station is offest from the runway buy few hundred feet.

[@HuDz1966]

@@grimreapers Is this just something we have to live with in the hornet then? follow the TACAN radial until we can get visual on the runway when exiting the clouds? Then correct. Cheers.

[@NickAhnProductions]

@@grimreapers surely there has to be a more accurate and reliable method than this? In extreme fog and weather conditions, missing the runway by a few hundred feet is quite a large margin of error and can cause the pilot to have to perform multiple go-arounds which might not be affordable in a low-fuel situation?

[@AUGozzy]

Get Dirty! Get Your Gear Out!

[@GHuffen]

Your saying that you use a rule of thumb to calc the glide slope .....ie a military aircraft doesn't have ILS there is no way you can hold a accurate approach path using that method

[@eracer1111]

How would you do it?

[@bugsshiraz]

Presumably the real F-18 has a decent ILS including auto-pilot on the glide slope?

[@Destarn]

the real F-18 doesn't have an ILS. It only has ICLS.

[@kevykevTPA]

@@Destarn Wow. The Cessna 152 I learned to fly in had an ILS how is it possible that they didn't put one into a $70 MILLION fighter? The advice in this video is a good way to create a CFIT event, and if operating under FAA regs, is very illegal. And stupid, what if there's a big ass hill in between you and the airport?

[@Destarn]

​@@kevykevTPA They didn't put it because it didn't need it. Also legacy Hornet is "only" $40 ;). It was supposed to operate from carriers, an aircraft deployed on a carrier will pretty much never be landing on an airfield, except outside of deployments. And yes, grim reaper tutorials aren't great by any means, I've seen them charge for teaching CASE I patterns that put you in a position of having to exceed 2000 ft/min to even hit the deck. Not ideal of course ;) Legacy Hornets fielded by Canada or Switzerland on the other hand were equipped with ILS compatible with land infrastructure as neither used their jets on carriers. Though, in DCS we tend to land our Hornets on airfields quite a lot, thought pretty much no servers or campaigns force us to do that in IMC but if needed we have several ways of checking whether our approach may be abruptly ended by a hill that suddenly appeared in front. Firstly the F10 map, but since that isn't always available we have our trustworthy HSI moving map. You can see the airfields there no problem. The plane also has a terrain database saved so where ever you designate with the A/G radar, HMD/HUD/TPOD/Whatever else, it will tell you the altitude of that point ASL. On the A/G radar it's easy to tell when there's a big terrain mass in front of you as there will be a "shadow" on the radar display. You can also set the scan up high so it only starts "seeing" and displaying terrain only when it gets within 1000 ish feet below you.

[@kevykevTPA]

@@Destarn Thanks. I'm a noob at this, and one of the things I really have no idea how to use is the ground radar, but in a RL situation, an actually qualified pilot could probably use that and possibly other systems to perform IMC landings in ways I can't even imagine. But being a RL instrument rated private pilot (though sadly retired due to disability), my kneejerk response to this is basically what I said. HOW IN THE F CAN YOU FIELD A MODERN COMBAT JET THAT IS EFFECTIVELY GROUNDED IF IT"S LAND BASED AND THE WEATHER IS A LITTLE IFFY???????? Adding ILS capability to the plane is trivial both technically as well as financially. I can't imagine any of the civilians involved with approving the b1rd was a pilot, because had I been the CNO or SECDEF or anything like that, I would NEVER have let that oversight happen. Not that I'm ever going to be either of those things, just an observation. It's primarily carrier based, yes, but the keyword there is primarily. But since at least some IRL have it, 'twould be nice if ED would add it as an option, anyway. That said, I'm completely gobsmacked how amazing this sim, and this plane, actually are. Back in the day, I bought and used basically every combat flight sim ever made, including Falcon 4.0, but somehow I had no idea this even existed until a few months ago, and I didn't really start making any real effort until a few weeks ago. Simply put, it's what I've always wanted. As soon as the Viper goes on sale I'm grabbing that, and I'm hoping someone will pull a study level F35 out of their hat, too. Though that may be almost too easy, once you learn to fly it anyway. "You don't scare me, Russian SAMs, because you can't see me! Neener, neener."

[@Destarn]

@@kevykevTPA I wouldn't get my hopes up on a study level F35 in the next decade at least as much as I'd love that. And ED are simulating a specific variant, USN Hornet from around 2008, the Lot 20. Those didn't have land based ILS capability so they won't add it. And Viper is a cool little plane, definitely recommend it!

[@CrazyShadowist]

It seems a Tacan approach...

[@luisrdm1]

And it is a TACAN approach.

[@CrazyShadowist]

@@luisrdm1 y por que le llaman ILS cuando quieren decir TACAN?

[@luisrdm1]

@@CrazyShadowist También no he comprendido el título. Me parece que fue para llamar la atención de la gente, porque el avión no tiene ILS.

[@CrazyShadowist]

@@luisrdm1 exacto, pensé en algún update pero nada...mi gozo en un pozo

[@jamesedwards6442]

The hornet does not have a native land based ILS system. it only has ICLS (Instrument Carrier Landing System) both IRL and in game. so this is the closest you can get to ILS on airfields without modding. Its a guide to building a makeshift ILS on the fly.

[@RealVENOMous]

can you manually select an ILS freq using the TCN Channel paired freq's? For this field that would be I think 26

[@grimreapers]

I could not get that to work?

[@aveabutchers]

Completely different receivers, the frequencies/channels are mapped for convenience only.

[@simondissimondis6086]

Is it because the tacan is not on the runway? That you are to much left

[@grimreapers]

yes

[@simondissimondis6086]

And how are it makes the real pilot

[@pilote768]

Cap, you're not performing an ILS landing here, you're doing a TACAN final ;)

[@hidalgohouse3815]

Why doesn't Cap have the F14B to test and share? The Reapers have done so much for DCS with all their tutorials and such..hmmmmm.

[@jamesedwards6442]

Cause people dont like the fact reapers aren't the serious bunch they think we should be. We are casual Sim pilots who put having a laugh with buddies before IRL procedures. I agree we could do a lot of thing smarter and cleaner than we do but thats just not our scene. The hornet EA video's got Reee'd all over on hoggit etc. And thus the F-14 has yet to materialise. Heatblur have stated however they are doing preview copies in waves. so once the Seriousbois have had thier fun you might get to see cap's take. if not then there'll be plenty of action after release.

[@exiletsj2570]

I’ve bought modules purely because cap has them, and I’ve seen what they’re like in a reapers long mission and I know he’s got a controls video etc. Cap might be a bit casual and not one of the anal retentive lot, though he’s definitely done more toward making DCS accessible. The formation stuff the reapers do, would show off the F14 in a very good light too.

[@Nails077]

@@exiletsj2570 GR is what got me into DCS at all to begin with. Came across one video by chance and was entertained enough that I subscribed, then got tempted to try for myself and now I own a couple modules and maps.

[@mariushusejacobsen3221]

@James When people get yelled at, repeatedly, (and AFAIR named, in public video) for doing something correctly, it goes beyond not being serious, deep into Crin Greapers territory. I'm the type to optimize my performance autistically quickly, so I'd probably be frustrated actually playing with CG. Suitably, I'm hanging out in the youtube comments rather than the GR discord. That said, I firmly believe GR has an important place in the ecosystem - well produced videos drawing new people into the community is nothing to be scoffed at. And it IS entertaining to watch nearly all of the time. And the whole "if cap can do it, everybody can" tutorials, beyond occasional funny, builds newbies' confidence. As a member of the dcs community, I recognize GR is a great thing for said community.

[@jamesedwards6442]

@@brycechetwynd4932 We take very little seriously :'D we have our own SOP's to follow sure but they are extremely casual. its always a good sign for a community when a group cant just fly for the hell of it without upseting people.

[@mikkihintikka7273]

very realistic. ive heard real pilots do it that way too. they just push f10 from the cockpit keyboard and measures the heading themselves

[@whitenoise509]

Hitting pause while en route is pretty handy as well irl.

[@suecobandito8954]

one peek is worth a thousand scans...

[@geraltofvengerberg3049]

that radar altitute warning sound is really annoying

[@lucasrayo1]

you dont fly a ils ...

[@jarisipilainen3875]

4:36 LOL why not say so first place

[@crashmaster26]

DID YOU JUST ASSUME BETTY'S GENDER IDENTITY !!!

[@grimreapers]

LOL oops. I meant "they"

[@p4p3rm4t3]

That's right! er.. They has a name you know!

[@StarLightPL]

Luckily Betty is from a generation which didn't know they had gender identities and that they should be offended if somebody assumed otherwise based on visual cues. I miss those days...

[@rm3950]

Like your videos a lot (aside from the demos/tutorials). You simply can't teach while speaking at speeds that can match the metabolism of a hummingbird. All while trying to fit as much information as you can, within a certain time limit. There are so many examples, in most of the tutorials i've seen of yours, where you don't even finish explaining a thought, idea, skill, or method. It's too bad, since you obviously know a lot. At one point, you even stopped, to take in a deep breath, after you blew through so much information in 20 seconds flat. Seriously, landing is one of, if not the most important flying skill, and you only give the subject, at one of its most challenging conditions, twelve minutes. Perhaps it was made for experienced simmers.

[@EanBezemer]

You aren't supposed to flare the Hornet on landing..

[@scarcatch]

flared landing's are common in Air Force's who have Hornets

[@Rogue_Six]

For RL approach/landing procedures just check out the official NATOPS F-18 manuals here: info.publicintelligence.net/F18-ABCD-000.pdf You can find approach/landing procedures under part III normal procedures on page 333 of the PDF. publicintelligence.net/u-s-navy-f-18-natops-flight-manuals/

[@mariushusejacobsen3221]

If you're over 34k total weight (plane+fuel+weapons) you SHALL flare, or else dump weight. The reason USN like the controlled crash even on runways is that it keeps the carrier landing skills fresh.

[@Jimbo-in-Thailand]

@Ean Bezemer - I don't think so but you're actually in a semi-flare attitude when landing anyway, if you're 'on speed'. Your Hornet should already be at an approximately 8° nose-high attitude. Add a touch of throttle once over the runway threshold to slow the descent rate and you'll make a nice soft landing, which nearly every terra firma bound pilot strives for. No reason to punish the airframe slamming it onto the runway with all that extra room and no arresting wires to worry about.

[@EanBezemer]

Jimbo in Thailand By pulling back on the stick before landing you can cause a stall and gear damage. Just follow NATOPS

[@jarisipilainen3875]

1:54 its 88. subract from map 6 degree. i dont know why airplanes not use map degrees. its same for all 6 god damn degrees. lets make all maps with magnetic compass it will be so easy. magnetic is real why maps are 6 degree dif LOL. no fuking sense. if compass say north then its north LOL and map need fix. who invent it. americans??? or its been be change over history and soon flip. south will be north LOL

[@jarisipilainen3875]

@Cole Lee Aerial runways are+-5 degree and they allready are map directions lol. just need fly -6degree,but why not write maps -6 when compass say so lol.. if day would be 1,002 faster year would be 365 day exactly we would not need leap year if day is 23,934 then why second minutes and hour not match so year would be correct lol.but hey if mile not actually mile. it is 0,998 LOL

[@andrewwest7875]

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