Fable 3 Logans Execution HD

[@MeesaBack]

"The man who passes the sentence, should swing the sword." - Ned Stark

[@ONshark]

uncle stalin would have shitload of swinging to do

[@DogCompanion]

Dominic Burke I actually just said that to myself as I watched this, then I scroll down to see your comment. Glad to see I'm not the only one XD

[@pyroAdapt]

or in this case, shoot the musket

[@Joshua-ox5fr]

JakesNation98 Swinging the sword is in reference to the CO giving the firing command.

[@brandonf24]

@@ONshark so too would Poppa Hitler going to the extremes of the other end of the ideological spectrum.

[@ragestark2203]

"[...] Spare me, and my soldiers will be yours" - Logan. Your Soldiers are already mine, I'm the King.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Not all. Some might remain loyal to the old king out of respect.

[@michaelsams8139]

The normal footsoldiers would immediately help the new king but Not to sure about the royal guard

[@TheGamingSyndrom]

@@onomatopoeia9678 enougth to hold bowerstone

[@myroyaldragon8563]

@@onomatopoeia9678 Somethin he don't deserve at all

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

No. His soldiers have been train to only follow him and obey him. He mentions this to you before.

[@BlorbHunter]

They could have done so much more to Logan... like make him actually seem like a sibling. He's you're big brother, but all the player knows is that he's a bit of a douche. If we actually got sibling interaction, this decision might have been harder, besides being good or bad.

[@nina_3108]

I could never kill my brother personally, so even without the interactions everytime I played, I spared him. I never executed him

[@JohnDoe-id5ih]

​@@nina_3108Tbf the canon story is that you SPARE him, Hero even spares a bandit leader, and the hero from the first Fable spares Twinblade who is a bandit leader. This game is about being better than your enemies if given the choice.

[@derekflores3089]

My soldiers will be yours to command, my ass. His Elite Guard never fight alongside you if you spare Logan.

[@dragonieprayer]

they kept the villagers safe off-screen ;)

[@dungeonsoulsdarkmaster7715]

I spare him and game sayd you must get 6500000 for army, if i didnt i need to collect more money or not? Logicaly more because i have a little half of Alboin great army, so I in profit.

[@AtlisDe]

Could be that Microsoft rushed lionhead to the finished product.

[@draketimmons684]

even though logan was tyrant he was right.... I let him live because of what he told me.. all he wanted to do was build an army and fight off the darkness

[@gamingheroforlife2999]

+Drake Timmons Yea, If you take every good decision and keep all your promises, you need him. Ive done evry good promise and i'm 1.7 mill in dept now.

[@draketimmons684]

+Gaming Hero For Life some I broke had to.... only way to have some people live... wish somebody told me what would of happen at end.. I would have started saving money

[@gamingheroforlife2999]

+Drake Timmons I made every good choice, and on the day before the war I started working at the blacksmith, bought every building at Bowerstone Market and saved up enough to save 500000 lives.

[@dm3402]

Yeah, his remorse is serious, his upbringing and darkness induced nightmares turned into growing depression and desperation which represents his tyrannical measures If he had all the money we had from the start he'd be like "Do it. I will pay you whatever, I dont care. Let's get all this set up now. And if you don't I am SURE there will be someone else. Chop-chop." His ruthlessness would be so useful when he can afford to go the benevolent route

[@tupacshakurfan9280]

I did the main quest late. I already had all proprietys and 3m money. I did all good choices and save everyone. Except walter...

[@GeneralSturnn]

I had to watch this to see how he was executed, in my game when I first played I wanted to kill him but when I went to aurora and then learned from Logan the darkness was coming to Albion, is when I decided to spare him, he did what he had to ensure Albions existence.

[@dovahkiinpotato7916]

I agree. I never chose to kill him.

[@GeneralSturnn]

Little Anime Gamer well if I wasn't shown what was on the other Continent, I'd have executed him blindly, but going to Aurora showed me he wasn't a heartless as I had thought, I'd have done just as much as he did most likely if I had no other option.

[@jaimiec3233]

GeneralSturnn Well he did kill innocent people :/

[@GeneralSturnn]

Indirectly* as far as I remember, Politics cause "little people" to die, like me, I'm a little person currently.

[@IHateSmilingFriendsTheTVShow]

Jammy Studios ya a few innocent people for all of albion "Without sacrifice there can be no victory" -Theresa Fable the journey btw if you haven't played fable the journey you won't get that reference

[@foxygrin]

You can't kill a guy with a voice like that. Same goes for Reaver :p

[@LeMecMoustachu]

It's Michael Fassbenders voice

[@VkMari3712]

You literally can't kill reaver He made a deal with the shadow court for eternal life and youth. Plus, he's the hero of skill.

[@JohnDoe-id5ih]

​@@VkMari3712He can still die tho, but you probably spare him cause he has a lot of influence in the industries of Bowerstone and such. As petty as the main Hero was in this game, he's still a master of all three disciplines, he can take on Reaver if he needs to

[@tigerguy1013]

Why does this game get so much hate? It’s an AWESOME game

[@GoFartherPodcast]

I agree. I understand it, but I love it

[@aleksattebery]

It is awesome, but I wish it had more of the originals Fable's feel and was also fleshed out alot more. All the games were awesome, but this one was so rushed.

[@tigerguy1013]

@@aleksattebery do you think they should’ve taken more time to make and develop it? That does make sense but if you didn’t bring up that thought I would never have thought of it

[@captainwilky2897]

There was a lot of promises made that were broken.

[@SirOswaldMosley.]

It is a awesome game But it is not a good fable game

[@Insaneanimeaddict]

I managed to raise a shit ton of money throughout the game and it covered every good choice I made without leaving the kingdom bankrupt. No promises were broken and we made it through the darkness no problem.

[@finn_in_the_bin5263]

SAME

[@myroyaldragon8563]

SAME

[@stevie_ily]

I guess it never occurred to Logan that the easiest way to raise the money for his army was a bake sale.

[@ronniemauck4774]

All he needed was to strum some sweet chords on the lute and he'd be rolling in war funds.

[@Zanoladab]

What I don't understand is that why can't these mfs citizens wait??? I mean we're preparing soldiers to fight darkness incarnate for god's sake. We need the money for those resources. Can't they just wait until the darkness is defeated ....after that is done we will keep the promises. I mean what's the use of making me pay for all those health services and education stuff if the darkness kills u because I didn't have any money left to protect u

[@nicolelynn9404]

He looked so genuinely sad and scared :(

[@a-mellowtea]

I lost the saved file for my first playthrough, in which I spared him, so when I restarted my brother dared me to have him killed. We both felt like utter shit after this scene. He happened to point out; you only get a wide shot of him, but Logan looks very much frightened. And then I pointed out that he's only 25 years old. That didn't help. So yeah, I'm always gonna pardon him from now on.

[@Prince__Teclis]

Would you like to know something that makes it worse?

[@dustrose8101]

@@Prince__Teclis I'm curious

[@myroyaldragon8563]

Im curious 2

[@TrademarkedIPAdress]

@@Prince__Teclis It's been 2 years, my good sir. What is this thing that makes it worse?

[@nina_3108]

@@Prince__Teclis what makes it worse??? (I'm sure it's a joke and no one will answer)

[@MichaelTheBlimpedFox]

This is actually sad. I've never seen his execution scene before. And now I have.... 11 years after the game came out!!!! I honestly wanted him to live even after all he'd done. Guess that shows how benevolent I was.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

I wanted him imprisoned, so that he gets punished, AND he lives to see that I succeeded where he failed.

[@dr.stevebrule4029]

It's crazy to think that the crawler is responsible for all of this. Pushing Logan to near insanity trying to make enough money to fight it off only for you to take his place and continue what he did to save the people or keep your promises and let everyone die

[@SomeAngryGuy1997]

You can also keep your promises AND save everyone.

[@gaspo2880]

If the darkness hadn’t threatened to destroy Albion, then maybe Logan would’ve been a generous leader.

[@Lloydy0151]

It is actually mentioned that he was a good king that was always exploring, but when he went to Aurora all of his men were slaughtered by the crawler, and that's when he became evil, to build an army to fight the crawler

[@Stanley-qv9zm]

@@Lloydy0151, I always spare him.

[@Lloydy0151]

@@Stanley-qv9zm same

[@nina_3108]

@@Stanley-qv9zm same

[@Archedgar]

@@Lloydy0151 He never 'became evil'.

[@FirstWorldProblemz]

I saved him and kept my promises with everyone and now the majority of people are dead and I'm in major debt.

[@HIGHSTAROUTLAW]

That's because you need to grind 8.5 million in gold and donate it before day 121 of being the ruler. It takes forever.

[@ironfreak23]

Own every property, put all rent to high. Everyone will hate you for this, but keeping promises will still make you become good. Once you saved enough money, change all rent to low/lowest. People will start becoming either ranging from neutral-friend-bestfriend/love. Sacrifice a bit of morality for the sake of the greater good I'd say.

[@Rixoli]

Another big thing to note is that you don't even really need to rack up the taxes, I made over 140K just from working maxed at the blacksmith 5-6 chains at 10x multipliers. Hit the forge, after all, your army is going to need blades for the up-coming fight and someone needs to craft them anyway! Use that money to repair houses along with whats left over going in the treasury. If you're willing to be patient you can easily have the 8.5 million (I'm guessing the extra 2 million is for edicts? I have the game paused right now on my decision for this very scene) before you even hit the first day's edicts.

[@SpAC3GH0sT100]

I just did the money glitch and kept all my promises and saved everybody

[@flynny0417]

SpAC3GH0sT100 I'm on Xbox one do u know I way I can do that ?

[@juzosdeadbody6813]

I may not have agreed with many things Logan has done, but Page did kind of convince me that killing him wouldn't be the answer. And then I heard his story and I held down that A button.

[@rayhagele]

Am I the only one here who thinks Logan made his decisions with the best intentions? Hear me out, he faced the Darkness and knows what the danger will be when it comes to Albion. Firstly, he needed to gather resources from Albion (Sabine) to make the fortifications. Secondly, he halted unnecessary expenses (Brightwall Academy, Helping Aroura) to conserve. Thirdly, as shown in our reign, dispite that Reaver is plain despicable and the reason Oakvale no longer exists - bit of a personal grudge here - he knows how to make money. Granted, its through less than desireable ways it proves to be effective. Child Labor, draining Bower Lake are great ways to get the resources in a hurry (Page). All and all, I think with a bit more stricter rules Logan could fought the Darkness off.

[@cometome255]

I agree fully. It's pretty hard to keep your promises in game and have 6.5+ mil in treasury. I couldn't execute him either but still. Cool intentions, still murder.

[@HumanOfPrey]

+rayhagele Like Logan himself said "what are you willing to sacrifice to do the right thing?" The problem is he sacrificed TOO much and as a result, he became equal or even worse than the Crawler.

[@AlanDirtbag]

And for killing your romantic interest in the beginning of the game? How was that decision for the benefit of Albion? (Everyone seems to forget that he did this)

[@yournamekitty2944]

Why'd he kill swift?

[@elvarias9730]

Because Swift was going to help the rebellion and the rebellion would be a larger problem because he had to focus on the darkness. I think Logan intentions were good and remain good. But most of the people here are actually just here to see what happens to him.

[@aleksattebery]

2:21 the moment Logan thought: "shit. Maybe I shouldn't have murdered his girlfriend."

[@blueknigh01]

I'm still playing the game on the 360.

[@hububuhschh767]

I, for one, fucking loved the Fable series, sad it theres no fable 4 but still love the shit.

[@OfficialMorgonkulan]

Found a music box, wished for a new fable game. Youre welcome

[@HarlowSchmarlow]

@@OfficialMorgonkulan You're a true hero

[@OfficialMorgonkulan]

@@HarlowSchmarlow not a hero. Just a swedish guy.

[@IamaPERSON]

@@OfficialMorgonkulan regardless, I hope it turns out good. What are you hoping for in the new game?

[@OfficialMorgonkulan]

@@IamaPERSON im hoping for a more RP immersive gameplay. I want to settle down, have kids and teach them the way of the sword!

[@jamesford6030]

I always have to be good. Even when playing it evil for fun I feel guilty lol

[@jaimiec3233]

James Ford Same... But it is fun to knock people off the bridge into the river :)

[@wipemedownfreshness1396]

James Ford me too

[@batpoollit1829]

James Ford same 😂🤣

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

I believe the reason we feel guilty is because he is your older brother. We are taught that kinship is more important then anything.

[@IamaPERSON]

@@user-sp2jg9rx8r especially over the series.

[@chaos_omega_zero]

Logan is just the anti hero not antagonist.

[@Studiosmediamilk]

I love Logan's voice and Ben Finn's too

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

Same. =)

[@deathman7663]

Logan is so truthful with mercy in this, and yet he suffers, and the fact he choses to hand all of his soldiers to you is awesome, I'm glad I saved him tho

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

Him having a choice at this point is such BS.

[@stephengolpashin7052]

I feel as though this confrontation would be a lot more meaningful if more time was put into Logan’s complexities. I would have loved if they delved deeper into the idea of how after witnessing the “Darkness” firsthand and being the labeled by his peers as a paranoid fool when he tried to warn the kingdom, Logan succumbed to his demons, and has gone mad over protecting his home, not matter how many heads have to roll. Also, the final boss should have been much more unique, and not just a Sentinel fight with a “Walter” skin

[@mr.skarkasm7755]

you know what? i kind of feel bad for the guy, i mean like, he unintentionally made his people suffer just so he could save them, he only wanted what was best, then he gets the execution command from his brother then gets executed be getting shot by 10 rifles

[@valoxiii422]

why did swift have to die? how did that help with preparing for the darkness?

[@michaelsams8139]

Atleast he got A Painless death I would of Made them all go for headshots just so he didn't have to suffer honestly

[@yournamekitty2944]

+Joe Sandlin I liked swift

[@krishnanandpremanand3581]

@@valoxiii422 Swift sold information of the army to the rebels that would cause a war against the army, killing a lot of soldiers and people of Albion, then he would've to find new soldiers to fight the darkness which would cost even more money that you'd have to mine fore resources and start child labour

[@gingadreamurr6238]

The classic “The ends justify the means” mentality. Regardless if it was necessary it is that thought process that allows one to commit atrocities with a blink

[@NotARussianDisinfoBot]

Yep. If you haven't read "The Gulag Archipelago" yet, you should. It's a brutal read, showcasing some of the worst atrocities, but it really highlights how ideology allows people to justify anything.

[@gingadreamurr6238]

@@NotARussianDisinfoBot interesting, I’ll have to check that out soon.

[@gingadreamurr6238]

@@NotARussianDisinfoBot Indeed anything can be twisted to justify an action, religion being a prime example.

[@TheDoktatorship]

the thing is, this part is one of those decisions that's all in the relatively grey area. sure he did what he thought was best, but the immense cruelty and damage he did could be seen as inexcusable. ...why the hell he didn't say why he was doing it earlier i don't know XD

[@Pacu89]

Probably to not cause widespread panic among the people, to have them live in fear for years. Or maybe they'd think he's lying cuz it would be years before the Crawler came and people wouldn't know that it was real and unwilling to work

[@jaimiec3233]

The Doktatorship BECAUSE HE HATES YOUR HERO FAVOURTISM I GUESS XD

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

Everyone demands him to care too much! He has enough to worry about for the incoming doom he doesn't need to worry about people not getting their way!

[@brighidserena8336]

On Wiki is said that he tried to tell his associates, but they believed it was trauma so they didn't believed his words

[@bryanfoster326]

People would probably still expect their problems to be solved and you to just figure it out and have the cost passed on to someone else. People are far more generous when it’s not their money being used. Plus you gotta think about wide spread panic, if something as apocalyptic as the darkness is coming why not look out for your own neck and worry about yourself? Also, if even a season veteran like Walter doesn’t really realize what you’re fighting when you see them, I think it’s likely that the darkness is from so long ago that people might not even believe you and ignore your warnings and demand their problems take precedence.

[@bridgertonbee]

Anyone still playing this game in 2020?

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

Me!

[@shadownaki]

I'm yeaaaaars late and just got around to the game a few days ago, I actually had to look up this option after finishing the game with like no townsfolk and hella debt.. going to play through again and not be such a screw up leader

[@nina_3108]

2023 and I'm still here

[@QuackEternal]

Hold on, theresa guided logan down this path, the same way she guided the hero. She knew logan would stop at nothing if everything he cared about was threatened, and by extension, she knew that his little sibling would follow in his footsteps. Was she the villain after all? Manipulating her little brother's descendants into corrupting albion so it's screwed whether they end up tyrants or not? What's her end goal? She's already gained possession over the spire. Is she worried that if the people of albion are strong enough, they could band up and destroy the spire again? Or maybe she wants to recreate the first wish, and she needs albion to be in the same spot as it was the first time to get it right. ... If that's the case, the fable reboot could absolutely be a sequel, set in a time where albion has regrown from the last wish, but once again is still suffering the consequence, therefore being in the exact same spot as the original fable, just thousands of years in the future

[@generaltobias3777]

She does guide you but she never chooses for you, it is always you who is given the choice between good and evil, Logan had that same choice as well. She warned Logan of the darkness, and he chose to be harsh in order to protect Albion, which isn't necessarily Theresa's fault. It's like how she warned the Hero of Oakvale that he would one day have to choose between the darkness and the light, she warns him of a great decision, but it's ultimately his choice to be good or evil, not hers. Like how it was Logan's choice to be harsh, or to be benevolent. I think she just wants to keep Albion from being destroyed, but you have to remember that she is kind of crazy, as we see if Fable 1.

[@nagaimmortal5658]

Teresa is such a bitch... but everyone justifies it with "the greater good" but it's not working with Logan... hypocrisy being what it is, lol.

[@Rixoli]

My biggest gripe with this game's plot is Logan's actions....not his taxation and mis-treatment of the people (hear me out) but for hiding his reasons: 1) Logan is a hero, maybe not as great a hero as the Prince, but he has hero's blood running in his veins all the same. His father was a great king as well, so this in itself would lend credit to his words. We also know Logan spent time abroad and all of these heinous actions only started after one particular expedition....where Logan came back missing quite a few men. This is something I would expect Walter, Swift or the Prince(ss) would've heard about. At the very least, SOMEONE should've connected the dots here and asked why he was mistreating his subjects. 2) Logan didn't have to expressly state that 'a great monster is coming to destroy Albion'. He could've easily said there was a foreign power mustering an army and that sacrifices would have to be made to prepare Albion for war. This isn't a blatant lie, bringing citizens from Aurora to corroborate his story would have easily made it seem far more believable. 3) Logan expressly says that he did what must be done to save Albion....yet not once does he ever stop to consider any other alternatives it seems. He never even lets his own flesh and blood in on this, whom could have helped him. Nor Walter, whom is portrayed as a great strategist, same with Major Swift whom clearly had the loyalty of Albion's old military. Any of these figures could have offered him advice, after all they were capable of mustering a resistance to overthrow his kingdom from a collection of little more than angry peasants, the remnants of the old military and foreigners already terrified for their lives across the ocean. As soon as he knew there was a resistance forming against him and that it was gaining any kind of ground, he should have (once again) EXPLAINED his actions.

[@casuallectures2655]

Rixoli remember that Theresa who personally saw Logan like us, indirectly, but purposely guided him to do all this because as she puts it "the course of history demands it"

[@Rixoli]

Film Mations "The course of history demands it" But why? Logan's actions would have likely been DRASTICALLY different if Theresa had approached him before that expedition. She has the capability to stop time and/or pull people into alternate dimensions and/or dream states....not taking her seriously would've been idiotic at worst and worthy of the prince stepping up 4 years earlier at best. Theresa's actions needlessly endangered all of Albion "Because prophecy"? On top of this, Theresa had all that time up she spent baiting the prince(ss) along until they rushed to Aurora to see that things were incredibly dire there. Even THEN, somewhere along that journey she could have warned him of "The Great Evil" present.....yet never did so.

[@casuallectures2655]

Rixoli your own hero questions it, and Theresa basically says "idfk, i saw that this was the future and guess who was right? Everything that lead up to now was you and your brothers fault not mine"

[@Rixoli]

Film Mations Except it was explicitly HER and your brother's fault. Logan acted like a total douche canoe, there is no doubt there. Yet Theresa knew in advance there was a chance that very bad things were about to befall Albion. She warned Logan immediately upon his return that the Crawler was coming and that he would need to be ready within 5 year's time. She had 4 years to warn you, the Prince(ss) whom is the only other living being of Hero blood alive. Even if for no other reason than to help people feel comfortable about his actions...yet she did nothing. She sat with her thumbs up her rear and did nothing to stop the death of 6.1 million people.

[@casuallectures2655]

Rixoli oh yeah, tell an early teen the prophecy about a horde of darkness is gonna come by in half a decade and that you will have to to specifically screw over your brother and take his place then decide the ultimata fate of your kingdom saving 6.5 million people, no stress there.

[@annlee6102]

Fun Fact: Logan was voiced by Michael Fassbender, who was later known as the actor of Magneto from the "X-Men" movies.

[@stevie_ily]

Say what you will about Fable 3, this was a pretty heavy moment.

[@nedumonouha8225]

Logan was the best character in the game

[@Jackson-fz2jq]

I challenge your opinion with the introduction of Reaver. Not only did he appear in the previous game but he has such a laid-back sarcastic personality that makes me chuckle.

[@nina_3108]

​@@Jackson-fz2jq Personnaly my fav is Logan, and I hate Reaver

[@gracelooker2694]

1:28 did you guys see the half invisible lady?! XD

[@pepsia6508]

Grace Looker yeah i did

[@IsmaelCiulla]

I did

[@lllazerfoxgaming6897]

Yep.

[@live2rock13]

"When you play the Game of Thrones, you either win, or die." - Cersei Lannister

[@gunski2002]

I safed Logan's life...

[@jaimiec3233]

DkGamer Brothers IT WASN'T WORTH IT D;

[@gunski2002]

Little Anime Gamer I know. I'm just a good guy :)

[@SpaceJesus2098]

wait... does anone else see the fact that Logan's wearing a breastplate? How the hell is he shot in the chest?

[@MrJaaaboo]

well.. during that time period the most breastplates are to intimidate enemies or look good they are not used as protection. Especially not against guns.

[@gunski2002]

Idk

[@MrJaaaboo]

well like i wrote to someone earlier, they are mostly for show not to protect :P But of course if theres enough thick metal plates they could deflect projectiles

[@kinglogan8441]

Not all breastplates are meant for protection. Some are for protection and some are for wearing for royalty or something like that....

[@lujoja8226]

As everyone is saying, at the time of the musket, metal armour had gone out of fashion as most of it could not stop black powder projectiles. Most armour used was merely ceremonial - just for pomp and decoration. Royal guards and royals alike often donned ceremonial cuirasses as fashionable pieces of attire rather than for their defensive properties. If the cuirass was made of a sufficient depth/thickness of metal sheeting then perhaps it could stop a musket ball, however, they would be extremely heavy. Given that Logan wears/wore that thing everyday, I think it is safe to say it is just a lighter ceremonial piece of armour.

[@zarris2386]

Logan was using tough love to protect his people

[@mckenzie.latham91]

The sad thing is if you don't follow the same polices as Logan, then the darkness obliterates everyone.

[@dr.stevebrule4029]

Yup and regardless of ur actions the people will hate you whether you made good choices or bad choices

[@casuallectures2655]

Mckenzie .Latham I actually took my time and worked everything out, I went to a few demon doors and got a solid million, along with buying every store and just waiting till I had enough money. Then I kept all my promises.

[@lennardchurch8483]

Actually the part of this scene that annoyed me the most is that it reminds me that in yet another Fable game, they don't let me kill Reaver. As for Logan, his only defense is that he was shown just enough by Theresa to set him on this destructive path, making his crimes partially her fault. But that doesn't absolve him of his own guilt. He set the slimiest, cruelest man in Albion (Reaver) in charge of most of the economy. Every time someone tries to talk sense into Logan, he sees it as treason and has them executed. He even forces his brother to choose between his girlfriend and starving peasants, deciding who Logan will execute. His every decision raises money for an army, but crushes the people, destroying the kingdom before the Crawler has a chance to. Logan is criminally insane, and he has committed crimes against the people of Albion. The only injustice in his execution is that Reaver isn't there next to him in front of the firing line.

[@TheHamborambo]

yeah but as much as i hate to admit it, reaver is just awesome

[@TheMazrem]

Logan is no hero, nor is he the man who was right for the job. However, knowing full well what was coming, he made those choices, choices he likely wouldn't have made otherwise, with what he thought was the greater good in mind. Faced with the imminent destruction of his kingdom, his homeland, he was willing to make those horrible choices only because he likely saw it all as a harsh, but necessary means to an end. He put Reaver in charge because Reaver was a vicious, but effective businessman. He forced his own people to live harsh lives because he felt everything had to go towards preparing for war. And I feel that the reason he made his own brother choose between the lives of a few starving peasants and his girlfriend was to try to "help" his brother understand what it meant to be a king, and that sometimes, you have to make harsh decisions. I don't feel any of that excuses him of his crimes, but understanding the why behind his actions is important, if only to learn that the "greater good" can sometimes drown an entire country in its own blood before the enemy even has a chance to strike.

[@lennardchurch8483]

TheMazrem "The greater good" is one of the most dangerous arguments out there. It is nothing more than an excuse to do terrible things. No quarter should be given for this intent. Hitler thought he was improving the human genepool by killing non "aryan" people, and Logan's atrocities against his own people (both through his direct orders, and those from Reaver, whom he put in power) are no better. What is Albion worth if it is reduced to nothing more than an impoverished, diseased, crime-infested, slavery-supporting hellhole? Throughout our real-world history, several countries have adopted a total-war economy successfully in times of need, and it was nothing like what Logan did to Albion.

[@TheHamborambo]

you know thats the point to have logan so they can compare his rule to yours

[@lennardchurch8483]

***** Reaver was a pirate who got everything he had through murder and treachery. Most of his resources in Fable 3 are only his because Logan imprisoned their owner and gave the resources to Reaver (as revealed in the Traitors' Keep DLC).

[@myroyaldragon8563]

Logan is likeminded, relatable & a rolemodel.

[@VictoryReviews]

I had 10million gold and still chose to break every promise by the end of the game lmao

[@alyunganxietygamingchannel29]

Who still plays this game in 2020

[@alyssonhenrique1513]

I'm still playing in 2021

[@Yugen777]

yeah just leave the body on the ground

[@dragonieprayer]

rats need to eat to you know....

[@Yugen777]

lol

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

@@dragonieprayer Darn it I laugh. XD

[@Jackson-fz2jq]

@@dragonieprayer Rats need to eat huh, That's not going to turn out like dunwall right?... Right?!?.

[@myroyaldragon8563]

Neither logan nor reaver deserves to be executed. Morals are subjective.

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

I agree!

[@tigerguy1013]

The music is what makes this scene intense

[@khaleesitankandfriends5070]

in 2017 it is still one of my favourite games. and i don`t know why i always felt bad executing him, he is your brother even though he done some very bad things he is your bro.

[@TheBision23]

I don’t kill Logan because if you spare him he fights with you

[@blueykangaroo]

I feel like if fable wasn’t being rebooted fable 4 could have had a plot twist of Theresa being the bad guy

[@kinglogan8441]

How could you kill him!? He was so sexy and such an awesome ruler. Ok... fine. He was a little cruel but c'mon. It was only because of the crawler and he wanted to protect you. (Sibling relationship ;P) He had to do what he had to do. And like he says, "What sacrifices are you willing to make to do the right thing?" *Huggles Logan's ankles tightly while crying.*

[@HumanOfPrey]

+King Logan "And like he says, "What sacrifices are you willing to make to do the right thing?"" The problem is he sacrificed TOO much and as result, he became equal o even worse than Crawler.

[@gilgamesh8334]

King Logan yolo

[@civil_the]

Says logan himself.

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

@@HumanOfPrey I still love him though. =.)

[@spoon6918]

It's traditional for me to go back to this comment every once a while good memories:')

[@veralidaine97]

I could never kill Logan. His reasoning made sense even if his actions were horrible. That said, his sibling doesn't even attend his execution? Shameful. You condemned your only family to die the least you can do is bear witness.

[@myroyaldragon8563]

Even? So what if his actions are "horrible"

[@Carthaginian_Empire]

Category: comedy

[@ilcapitano648]

Man, seeing Logan’s reaction to being put to death is genuinely heartbreaking. Sure, he was a complete dick and some of his actions were unnecessary, at least he did them somewhat out of care (could have done without him making me kill Elise so we could better understand how monarchy works but hey ho). Still, he did what he could to protect Albion. He wasn’t evil, he was dumb and misguided. And plus, imagine the despair that runs through your body when you are straight up told you are going to die and have no way out. And imagine how worse it is when your own younger brother is the one ordering your head. Logan may have been abit of a dick, but he doesn’t deserve this. I’ll pardon him everytime.

[@myroyaldragon8563]

@Rick O'Shay that doesn't mean he should die, morals are subjective & individualistic.

[@willmacrealtalk4754]

An address from Logan, your king... You are citizens of Albion. It's noble soil runs through your veins... *Continue if you know it.*

[@MrJaaaboo]

im just wondering, is someone still playing this game :P? im thinking of playing it again, but it sucks to play alone so... playing on pc btw

[@askiavance3722]

People still play this game u know

[@Sveeteliene]

ASKIA Vance I'm still playing it, i am at the part where you become king, (after i got the diamond from aurora)

[@jessemartin6775]

I've played it twice, for good and evil. Never killed Logan, though. I needed this soldiers.

[@MrJaaaboo]

was about to replay this, but since they removed GFWL (Game For Windows Live)... The game is no longer working for me, after some strange patch i cannot launch my game... bullshit..

[@kinglogan8441]

Jesse Martin Same. I played it more than 5 times and always let Logan live. I'm always evil too...

[@Uroboro_Djinn]

It didn't take a hero to do this. The kingdom needed someone with fundamental knowledge of economics and patience.

[@HarmonySynthetics]

I spare him. And I keep my promise.

[@sircrash1757]

So realistically logan did all those bad things to save money and make the same decisions you make when your on the throne so in that case you had no right taking the throne off him. Your the bad guy.......

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

When you really think about it. It does doesn't it.

[@TheFuzzyGames]

I didn't Execute Logan even though he almost plunge Albian into an Economic Crisis and execute innocent people. The only reason why I spared him is because his my brother. There is many alike Ellise in Albian, but you only have one brother.

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

Yes, you only have him.

[@RyanKaufman]

Cruel. Logan deserved better. Amazing quality, though.

[@laracroft1590]

love this game shame all this time and still no fable 4 ;/ x

[@KnightoftheLord1]

Fable 4 is finally coming!

[@Jackson-fz2jq]

Lionhead studios shut down, I don't think they will every make another fable

[@driftknightnation]

You should do a Gameplay walkthrough of this game! There are a lot of fable fan and you should give this game a chance! Great video btw, keep up the good work!

[@sportacusbitch9938]

This was sadder than I expected

[@noneyabizz5306]

I understand Logan acted to preserve Albion. Most of the seemingly evil choices were necessary, and we all came to realize that as we played through the story. But I could never get passed the one unnecessary thing he did do at the very beginning of the game when he forced you to choose to kill either one innocent person who did nothing, or the three protesters outside, and if you didn't decide, he would kill them all. When I sentenced him to die, I sentenced him for that alone.

[@sophiacousland3452]

It was a test, to see how your character handled pressure and what they were willing to sacrifice. Logan didn’t know if he would survive and wanted to prepare your character to take his place, in his own way, should the worst happen. I’m still bitterly disappointed that Logan didn’t say anything about the Crawler to anyone. Not Walter, the Prince/Princess, or even Major Swift. He didn’t need to take all of the burden alone. He had all that stress, pressure, and PTSD because he refused to share the burden. If he had he could have found a better way to save his people and he wouldn’t have been seen as a tyrant.

[@Catinkontti]

Fun Fact: The voice actor is Michael Fassbender.

[@trecoolisacucumber4733]

It's such a sad death to watch. Hah, the first time I executed him on my second play through as to become evil, I flipped out, I had no clue it would be so brutal?

[@charlottechase4772]

I actually never sentenced Logan to death for the 6 years of playing this game

[@michaelcreech8957]

Honestly I wish there was a choice for trial by combat if Logan defeats you he lives if you defeat him he dies

[@Prince__Teclis]

Would be a good fight, hero vs hero.

[@myroyaldragon8563]

Probably because you hate that folks easily get to pardon him

[@nwbdirge1198]

Ive only just realized this playthrough that spearing logan is the right choice, even the people want him alive

[@jeonghanism]

i can never bring myself to kill logan in all honesty. yes, he was a bit of a dick, and he should have faced some form of punishment, but at the end of the day, he has to live with the hatred of his people and his loved ones so i see that as punishment enough. but everything he did was to protect the people of albion, and his sister/brother so i couldn't really condemn him for trying to be a good guy, though he did a poor job at being one. plus, i loved the fable 2 character so much that i would have felt bad for killing one of her(my fable 2 character was a female) children.

[@sherylyoung1478]

I feel so bad for logan,he did it to protect a country and seeing him get shot is sad

[@applemauzel]

It was all good and all, until I just dropped 6.5mil right into the royal treasury. IT shows, that the power of money really do solves everything~

[@michaelsterling4752]

I rather spare Logan plus that’s his big brother

[@nolongerwavey]

Yh

[@Flowerboyy03]

U guys really need to hear logans italian voice it fits his face perfectly,I had never heard the English one before, but it doesn't do justice to the character

[@jack_on_crac]

You know everything bad that he's doing it's supposed to be justified for the greater good but I feel like some things are just for no reason and he was being a douchebag like the very beginning were you choose either your friend or the protesters to die there was no reason for that just imprison them and even says before you reach that point if necessary shoot into the crowd like he's just being bloodthirsty there's no benefit from that.

[@khafaniking1230]

Logan should’ve picked up like a professional communication and an ethics class on top of that at like the local community college. The internal strife would’ve been better formulated if we already knew Logan’s reasoning to begin with and saw his methods get more and more extreme in his paranoia.

[@alejandrobernal6180]

anybody else wanted to play as Logan

[@user-sp2jg9rx8r]

Me!!!

[@Squidrito]

Michael Fassbender would be perfect in Game Of Thrones

[@fawkes.6820]

I couldn't do it. He was messed up yes but he was scared of something that could of swallowed the whole of Albion

[@DKAndrewY]

Dude that guy was seriously a jackass. He made you execute your boyfriend/girlfriend or a group of innocent people for no reason.

[@DKAndrewY]

***** Yep, my morals didn't prevent me from murdering his punk ass, which was the right thing to do.

[@Bacxaber]

+JusticeBringer He did have a reason, he wanted to teach you that becoming a king means you have to make difficult choices. It still isn't justified, but there you go.

[@DKAndrewY]

***** No, not really, he was just doing that to be a jackass. There's a difference between piling resources to fight an enemy and choosing to murder a group of innocent people or murder your also innocent girlfriend, one is necessary and one is completely unnecessary.

[@Bacxaber]

JusticeBringer Think what you will, but I gave you his reasoning. It wasn't for nothing.

[@DKAndrewY]

What exactly does murdering your innocent boyfriend/girlfriend or a group of innocent people teach you and how does this relate to what Logan's doing in any way? Logan is causing suffer to create a viable future but how exactly does choosing to kill your girlfriend or a group of people relate to the lesson of sacrifice for the greater good? One is done because it is necessary (Logan's decisions) and one is completely just because he wants to be a dick (Making you choose who to kill). Why not just make your brother/sister a king for the day and let him/her understand what sacrifices are instead of teaching them a pointless "there's no winning in life" situation.

[@ashertathren3495]

I'm in love with Logan so this made me sad the one time I did it and tbh hurting him still makes me sad

[@anthonygarcia9175]

Lol, Why didn't Logan just buy and rent out all the properties?

[@_Biggg_t]

Michael Fassbender??!!

[@Biczeschlappe]

mysterymidnight 478 Yep

[@JohnnyKahn]

I sent the orphans to work in the factories.better than starting up a gang and causing amuck yo'

[@Jugdjay]

Logan tried to do the right thing, but did it the wrong way. I didn't execute him, and his decision to leave Albion after the final battle seems fair to me.

[@RapnuzeI]

Logan and Itachi are somewhat similar.

[@SeliseG]

That's so sad. He was only trying to save his people.

[@aliseyafeacher8596]

OH MY GOOOOD at 3:01 Logan is standing like nothing happened😂😂😂😂

[@nicocr1016]

Im still playing it completed it 6 times! in a year

[@MrJaaaboo]

does the multiplayer work at all? ive heard that the windows live shutdown?

[@Whoami691]

It all comes down to a single question. Do the ends justify the means?

[@stormthayer6012]

rip Walter

[@nolongerwavey]

I couldn’t kill him since he was my brother

[@words422]

i let logan live who else did?

[@words422]

***** lool

[@GalavantGaming]

I wish there was a third option to place him in prison for life because of his crimes

[@whiskytango1515]

should have demanded a trial by combat

[@michaelsams8139]

Do it game of thrones style I like it..

[@HumanOfPrey]

Like Logan himself said "what are you willing to sacrifice to do the right thing?" The problem is he sacrificed TOO much and as a result, he became equal or even worse than the Crawler. I'd rather sacrifice myself to save my kingdom than sacrifice my people to do so.

[@generaltobias3777]

Logan should have just invested in real estate and business and he wouldn't have to be harsh 😑

[@tigerguy1013]

Then the leave the body for Hobson or whoever to pick up

[@magicman883rg6]

I love this game but it had so much more potential and galled short on many areas such as logan