I just watched your video. It good to see someone who can still make sheet metal fittings. I learned a long time ago how to make fittings from old school tin bangers. I miss the trade, I had to retire a couple years ago due medical issues.
@stevecook75513 жыл бұрын
This takes me back many years . A very old friend of my fathers was a tinsmith . I would go and help him in the shop from time to time , shearing , running the Pittsburgh , assembling , etc. I learned a lot from him . I ended up as a carpenter though , knowing how this all worked helped me out later building houses. I always knew when the guy hanging duct was trying to pull the wool on me when he said he could not do something the way I wanted it .
@Floridaman87834 ай бұрын
This was, by far the BEST fab video I’ve seen on KZbin. Excellent
@sheetmetalwork4 ай бұрын
Thank you 8783.
@Superheat Жыл бұрын
Best fitting tutorial I’ve seen yet! Thank you for taking the time for a very well put together video!
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@garygerard42906 ай бұрын
I spent some time in a union shop many years ago It was very memorable watching this. I've a pretty well equipped garage now with a few metal cutting saws and a few more for wood. I've a 3 foot shear and a 4 foot pan brake. Day after tomorrow I'm going to look at a powered 4 foot slip roll - keep on buildin' 😎 I've subbed and will check out what else you've posted thanks
@sheetmetalwork6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, 👍
@assabetmetalfabrication61433 жыл бұрын
Excellent learned something new thanks for the demo outstanding Retired us navy metal worker
@ECBassGuy8678 ай бұрын
Excellent videos. I show all my students in the grade school your videos.
@sheetmetalwork7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@merlito33192 жыл бұрын
Great work n very clean.
@davidmarshall91605 ай бұрын
This is exactly the method i have used, while traing shop fabricators, over the years, its funny because they are always amazed i can do it without a plasma table, i was also waiting for you to use the peewee tape as well, awesome hand layout shortcut, well done!!!
@sheetmetalwork5 ай бұрын
I like you comment,,,, I’m a firm believer that layout knowledge is like having a special tool in the toolbox. Happy holidays David.
@sportsman0420022 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome man glad to see it laid out for once other than a computer and plasma table for fittings and I got a old timer teaching me so much and he knows the old ways just don’t have to do it that way no more computer does lays out our fittings and we have to run them after that great video man. Also the guy teaching me likes to roll his heels the Pittsburgh it will roll around in the machine perfectly at least it does with the Machine we have. Have a great day!
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
I am very happy to hear that you have a chance to work with a guy who has layout knowledge, Trust me this knowledge often helps us sheet metal workers on job sites. Yes you can roll heels and large throats coming out of Pittsburgh lock machine, There are so many tricks and the best way to learn all these tricks is from other workers. :)
@WASSUPIMED Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks Edward.
@BARNEYONICEGMAIL2 жыл бұрын
It's neat to see how other fab is done. I own a precision sheet metal and machine shop (lasers and turret punches) and always tell customers who try and put down "Tin knockers" as there work is easy and mine is more difficult that they (the customer) are wrong. Tin knocking is an art. I appreciate your video and knowledge.
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Shout Out to all Sheet Metal Journeymen and Apprentices. We appreciate it! 👍
@jdr14698 ай бұрын
Fascinating video, great content expertly done. Thank you.
@sheetmetalwork8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@rockybutler Жыл бұрын
Interesting scribe technique, with the dividers.
@pf56582 жыл бұрын
Great job.
@zemhrethagos25758 ай бұрын
I love it. Thank you Sir.
@sheetmetalwork8 ай бұрын
I’m happy😀 you liked it Zemhret
@nestorrodas3434 Жыл бұрын
Learn and got inspired by this video!!!
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
Your welcome and thanks!
@gilmarcosta94304 ай бұрын
Now I'll have to go out get all those machines! lol
@sheetmetalwork3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jacob, my punch mark was exactly 8 and1/4” from the left side of my sheet. My stated 8” measurement was from the 1/4” punch mark you can barely see.
@SardarTariqMahmood3 жыл бұрын
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@sumbeech14843 жыл бұрын
Solid !
@abdullahalhugilan852Ай бұрын
really good
@sheetmetalworkАй бұрын
Thank you!
@itsnegl3ct3412 жыл бұрын
Pair of linesmen are nice in the pocket for folding the edge for the 1/4 i couldnt imagine having the vise fighting me to stay locked lol
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
Yes, pliers do work great. Thanks for the comment and I hope others take note 👍
@johnnyb86292 жыл бұрын
If you make some strips of metal an inch or so wide by as long as you throats and heels and insert into Pittsburgh before you roll it, you don't need to open them up before assembly, simply pull the strips out after you roll it and its ready for assembly.
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
Your 100% bang on with the comment, thanks! I assure you that I do show my students the strip inserted into the pocket and I definitely allow them to choose whatever method they prefer. At the same time I make sure to tell them time is money and there is a few ways of completing different tasks but at the end of the day they need to be accurate, neat, fast. I simply find it quicker using the hammer for my lock opening most of the time. ⛏
@TommyGuichardo2 жыл бұрын
Good work
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tommy G.
@JDT7381262 жыл бұрын
what an art form huh. looks like you need lots of machines for doing those radius pieces and other more complicated fittings.
@bsct7126 күн бұрын
Liked the video. You missed one thing, folding the slide on the cheeks.
@NickPhilly2155 ай бұрын
Amazing
@sheetmetalwork5 ай бұрын
Thanks Nick, everything gets easier for anyone by doing.
@Yjdjdjfjfjc2 жыл бұрын
Amigo saludos desde México
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
Amigo Saludos desde Canada
@ccthepope3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@jacobharris1823 жыл бұрын
At 2:17 when you are punching the sheet. Did you measure 8" from the edge of the sheet or from the punch point near the edge?
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
The 8” is from the 1/4 punch or 8 1/4 from the edge.
@daveoswald5375 Жыл бұрын
I like your choice of coffee.
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
Lol Dave, who knows it may help viewers stay awake watching some of my vids 🤪 Eh!
@selc26203 жыл бұрын
Nice thanks for the info. Is the S n Drive always needed when making it? Also, any downloadable layout PDFs
@sheetmetalwork3 жыл бұрын
S & D are the most popular with smaller sizes, but as the fittings get larger we would typically go with another type of connector. PDFs? Not at the moment, sorry.
@davidmarshall91605 ай бұрын
Yes the method is based on triangulation, the dimension, + any flang sor the stretchout .
@hms1688 Жыл бұрын
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@charlyb.rivera3305 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for share your knowledge , its posible you can give me the list that tools you use in this video , thanks
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
The sheet metal equipment that I used,,,,A shear, a Pittsburgh Lock former with a power Flanger, Rollers, and Cleat Bender.
@BenJohnsonDotNet9 ай бұрын
What are the best hand tools if you didn't have this flanging machine? 7:10
@sheetmetalwork9 ай бұрын
For radius cheeks, you could use if available a manual rotary easy edger, and if that’s not available, worst case scenario pliers, hand dolly wit a hammer.
@greglandry12252 жыл бұрын
Correct me if im wrong, but when you're doing the stretch out for your heel shouldn't it be 13 x 1.57, not 12.5 x 1.57? Because your radius is 5" plus the width which is 8, so 13 x 1.57, right?
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
Hello Greg, if you take a second look at the video at 9:40, you will see that I use a swing radius 12.5” for Heel and 4.5” for the throat. The reason is that I am working or swinging from the 1” line also known as the working line. Laying out fittings from the 1”line is good practice especially when sides are tapering, it allows the necessary straight for the “S” cleat. The most important thing at the end of the day is that we have a finished radius as per shop ticket, and we will. I hope I was of help😀🇨🇦
@greglandry12252 жыл бұрын
@@sheetmetalwork thanks for the reply... its been a while since I've done any lay out... that makes sense, but im almost positive that when I was taught to do it, I would have done 5 and 13 for throat and heel... is that normal for people to do 5 and 13? Also good video, I know there are harder fittings out there to lay out, but you explained it well, and it would be easy to follow for someone new to the trade
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
@@greglandry1225 Swinging from the 5 and 13 are often done, It just depends on who’s teaching it and what book they prefer to follow. It was a pleasure chatting with you, have a great weekend.
@greglandry12252 жыл бұрын
@@sheetmetalwork The pleasure was all mine, it was good chatting with you as well... I subscribed and plan to watch more of your videos... maybe if I get stuck on something you'd be willing to help if you have time... thanks again
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
@@greglandry1225 sure will 👍
@jjd19835 ай бұрын
If you leave your heel and throat slightly over rolled, when you open the seam with hammer or tool, they'll come back to 90deg.
@sheetmetalwork5 ай бұрын
True, over rolling is good practice for sure.👍
@Steven--- Жыл бұрын
Are there equivalent hand tools to do this? I'd like to do some of this, but don't have money for the machines. Metal forming airtools, or drill attachments? Thanks
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
Everything is possible Steven If you're prepared to spend a lot of time at it. You would need hand benders or what some may call flat vise grips to fab the Heel and Throat seams, you would need a set of pliers to turn a edge on the Cheeks and a peice of round pipe used instead of a roller. Oh! bring lots of patience :) but it can be done.
@Steven--- Жыл бұрын
@@sheetmetalwork I have the flat vice grips, my buddy has an 18" bead roller, I'd have to see which dies he has though. I also have one of the "hand break" 22" that does the inch, and 3/8" bends. I guess I need to find a site that shows me the progression of the roll, in case I need a couple more dies. Thanks!
@chillybinbob Жыл бұрын
A darned old tin knocker, I'll be.
@mdnurislam35662 жыл бұрын
nice
@sheetmetalwork2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@Yjdjdjfjfjc2 жыл бұрын
Qué material estás usando? Gracias por tu respuesta.👉
@a.r.mechanical66292 жыл бұрын
Parece 24 ga
@charlyb.rivera3305 Жыл бұрын
Ustedes saben como se llaman las herramientas que uso el aquí Para rayar el radio ? Pará darle el flashing ? Y la que uso para darle con el hammer para armar el radio ? Gracias de antemano
@selc26203 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the layout vid, can you link the tool you use to open up the Pittsburgh
@jamesedwards59313 жыл бұрын
Before you roll the two Pittsburgh parts, just slip a scrap piece of metal a couple inches wide and at least the length of the wrapper and throat into the Pittsburgh seam. Then roll it. You will never need to open the Pittsburgh seam, because it won’t get pinched in the roller. The 3/16” edge will easily slip in. A real time saver. Another time saver on the Pittsburgh wrapper, as it’s coming out of the Pittsburgh machine, start to roll it up. Do this on both sides. After you catch on, it very unlikely you will need to use the roller on lighter metal. Plus you can do the same on the longer part of your Ogee offsets, saving more time.
@mikemorgan6222 Жыл бұрын
where do you get the hand dollys
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
I think they are part of the Pexto stake set?
@fatslapper123 Жыл бұрын
Life hack: Stuff two strips of scrap sheet metal into the Pittsburgh on the throat/heel before sending it through the roller and it keeps the seem from being over-compressed. Assembly is easier and the seem looks far better on any exposed work.
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
I’ve done that before, but I find it faster with my hammer. I will mention it in a future video. Thanks for commenting.
@fatslapper123 Жыл бұрын
@@sheetmetalwork I wish some of the equipment was more affordable. I generally prefer to make more architectural or weird stuff like light covers, weird duct transitions (made a 5x8 rectangle to 6" round once) and have made a few picture frames... on some exposed work I'll even hand bend the Pittsburgh to prevent marring on the final product One of my favorite feelings is when these weird fittings get assembled perfectly, the first try with no wasted material.
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
@@fatslapper123 Sounds like you take pride in your work. Awesome!
@sidocean5633 жыл бұрын
CAN U SUGGEST AT WHAT FPM FACTORIES MS DUCTS ARE DESIGNED
@sheetmetalwork3 жыл бұрын
Sorry. But I m not sure what you mean by MS Ducts
@sidocean5633 жыл бұрын
@@sheetmetalwork MILD STEEL DUCT DESIGNED FOR CEMENT & OTHER BIG FACTORIES
@sheetmetalwork3 жыл бұрын
@@sidocean563 I’m sorry Sid, but I don’t know the answer.
@phoolpur.m.d18193 жыл бұрын
Mangal Dass🇮🇳 (Round ducting) (Squar ducting)
@jasonmorris2813 Жыл бұрын
Its been a while but for my s&d i allowed 1/2" per connection. I see you use 2 inches. I guess Canada duct is different than USA. Our finish drive cleat is only 11/8". I couldn't imagine having to drive a 2 inch drive on (@9:44 you say 2 inches for connecting) may as well use duct mate🤷
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
Ask any Sheet Metal JOURNEYMAN in the USA, as a matter of fact I was born and raised in Massachusetts. I may be wrong but i’m guessing by your comment that you don’t have much sheet metal educational training yet? How do you get an “S” cleat on a tapering fitting? Jason, we both know that an S is 1”Eh! 🇺🇸🇨🇦….no need to disrespect another country.
@jjd19835 ай бұрын
A union trained layout man can shear the heel and throat blanks using a calculator for stretch-out lenght. Just saying..... The 1/4" tape is a good way to double check your math😊
@sheetmetalwork5 ай бұрын
Measure twice cut once, somebody once said. Also an expert at something was once a beginner and there is always another way.
@sikanderkhan66653 жыл бұрын
My workshop Pakistan Lahore I love duct work
@JohnnyJr396 Жыл бұрын
Can any of you guys tell me what Flat on bottom and flat on top mean and their difference? Can you have both?
@sheetmetalwork Жыл бұрын
This is somewhat hard to explain without a duct fitting in front of you but I’ll do my best. First of all, this isn’t a basic layout fitting, it is what we call triangulation,,,,you are going to have to let go of what you already know as being top and bottom. In the sheet-metal trade every fitting has numbers/sizes and information needed for it to fit properly. First start by imagining a certain fitting,,,, it can be an elbow, an offset or even a transition. If I would ask you to sketch one of these fittings on paper, you would be sketching the top,,,If the sketch is of an elbow, I’m hoping you would have drawn something that looks like a cheek. This is called the top cheek and we must state if it’s sloping and if so? It may be FOT, Top down 2”. Now if that didn’t confuse you, I could also state, the sketch of the elbow you have drawn can be the bottom cheek 😳, which can be many things such as FOB, Bottom up or down.🫣.
@JohnnyJr396 Жыл бұрын
@@sheetmetalwork thank you. Great explanation, I think I have somewhat of an understanding now. Like you said that’s one of the things together hands on would make more sense.
@rockybutler Жыл бұрын
Flat on bottom or top, simply means. that side of the duct. had no offset. It is the straight side. the opposite side will have all the offset. Where as a center line fitting the offset will be both sides, typically equal.