Historian H.W. Brands on similarities between 1941 debate on U.S.' place in the world and today

[@c.a.savage5689]

I am 70 years old. I cannot remember a time when America DID NOT have its fingers deep in other countries' affairs. Protecting their "foreign interests" in Latin and South America, Indonesia, Indochina....

[@gregparrott]

You are correct. U.S. 'meddling' likely reached its peak back when the Dulles brothers were in power during the Eisenhower administration. But I've heard others counter the 'meddling' narrative. They note that if we fade from world engagement, other entities WILL become those steering the world towards their ideals. They ask 'Should we be the one, or should other aspirants, such as the Soviets/Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, etc., push their beliefs and agendas, free of influence by the U.S. and our allies?" "Should we just look inwards, contemplating our navels?"

[@siuabc]

How many wars have U.S. initiated or involved since WWII? How many lives (USA AND people in their homeland have died as a result)?

[@nobody687]

Have you enjoyed a life of employment. Seems you take but complain about how you got it. Cry baby

[@jamesbrausch1217]

Interesting and level-headed--he's a professor right? Too bad that so many in the US prefer tabloid and biased reporting to such level-headedness. So here's some tabloid--Lindberg had 4 wives, 3 of which were German, 2 of which were sisters.

[@keithbrown3045]

This is actually a great segment! I wish the mainstream media would have more of this kind of stuff. Biased free!

[@scotshuthats5268]

💯👍😉

[@Seekthetruth3000]

CBS is not free from bias. CBS is in the tank for the Democratic Party.

[@yvonneplant9434]

Scholars ,unless they are real academic stars like Tim Snyder, just don't get enough attention. Most of them don't want the attention from the general public. Too distracting.

[@dougsfriendskeeter]

Face the nation is MSM 😂😂😂

[@abeautifuldayful]

@@dougsfriendskeeter Just curious, but why are you posting tears of joy emojis. Are you actually that happy with Face the Nation and MSM?

[@artstrology]

We need to elect those from among us that have our interests, not wealthy capitalists hell bent for world domination. The public seems to NOT understand this.

[@lewiscarey1593]

Your DUSDAIN for CAPITALISM!😮

[@byronhotchkiss3254]

The lesson from WWI and WWII is not that we "should have gotten in sooner." It's that we're lucky we didn't get in sooner. We got in right when we needed to, and as a result the US came out of both wars stronger than any other participants. America shouldn't be an insolationist, but when we do get involved, it should be to win. No half measures.

[@DSAK55]

No, we're at 1934 Germany

[@michaelbayer5094]

Hitler became Chancellor Jan 30, 1933. By April the Nazis had almost complete control. Hindenburg did nothing to restrain them. If he had, he would have been dead before August 2, 1934.

[@dougsfriendskeeter]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@CF_Texas]

LMAO 😂

[@davidallen4472]

Remember that 60% of Americans read at the 6th-grade level when reading replies.

[@5959Lawrence]

@@davidallen4472 Also why Mr Trump often notes that "I love the poorly educated".

[@philipciaffa6643]

Major Garrett should expand on this interview at greater length and in more depth in another CBS venue. Running time: 7:10 is not nearly enough time to examine the America First mindset and rationale of today, which did not occur.

[@christianebrown9213]

Rachel Maddow's book "Prequel" would be better to get an idea about anti-semitism during the times and Lindbergh's positions...

[@DrSamLopez]

Always interesting to look back in the record to gain context for the present. Please, do not interrupt your guests as they wrap up their concluding thoughts just to gain a couple of seconds.

[@lytalo]

Sadly in the 1930s and 40s very many Americans were anti-Semitic. Jews were prohibited from joining many public groups, clubs, etc. This matched the general feeling of most people in Europe as well, not just the Germans.

[@SR-zc6lk]

I wonder why 🤔

[@SR-zc6lk]

I wonder why 🤔

[@MiyangChoi]

They are not gonna give up no matter what.

[@georgesheffield1580]

Also similar to those debates in 1916/17

[@santifoster1741]

Yes but Lindbergh was not a psychopath

[@MissChristine-wo6vp]

I think many Americans want the USA to be considered the most powerful nation on earth, however, they don't want to make any effort or sacrifice in order to earn that status. We have never had a war on our territory except for the one between ourselves in the Civil War. The 9/11 attack tried to show us what war on our turf might look like.

[@Robin-bk2lm]

I didn't actually see a point in your comment but your facts are suspect. Remember the Indian wars, the colonizing wars, the Mexican war (Alamo)? And America simply IS the most powerful nation on earth. What's in question is if the Cokes et al can break the democracy and therefore the country.

[@patriciapage2109]

​@@Robin-bk2lmAre you talking about the Koch brothers?

[@clenke0]

You can't just ' Force ' people to like you. 👍🏼

[@michaelmattson1081]

If these wars are so popular...volunteers only no draft...its forced labor

[@Rjohns1414]

Well… Pearl Harbor, War of 1812… Revolutionary War… Mexican American War…Japanese were also in the Alleution (Alaska) Islands …

[@jaddison1112]

My first take on this interview is his historian is an apologist for Charles Lindburg who was dead wrong on WWII before Peral Harbor. Then he said Linbeg was a Country Club anti-Jew "because everyone was than" is nonsense. To not at least admit the possibility and call for absolute neutrality that Hitler and Japan would never come after The US was Lindburg's stupidity. Does this historian even see the world is in more danger than since 1941 right now ? We are !!

[@meidassecondsoprano150]

I agree. This is a terrible misrepresentation of all Americans as “Country Club” or casual social anti semites at that time. It simply is a collaborationist ex post facto justification for Lindbergh’s and his wife, Ane Morrow Lindbergh’s full throated admiration for Hitler and his Third Reich’s policies, including its laws against Jews that led to their extermination of six million Jewish men, women and children.

[@user-gi9cl5yt4w]

Your not entirely wrong in the 'apologist' idea, Lindbergh was an isolationist and he was an anti semite, rationalizing it the way he does, is just another way of confirming its existence. He was a national hero for a moment, unfortunately then as is today, people thought he was more than he really was (pilot then, reality tv personality now). HW Brands is a well respected author and historian, but in this interview, he's just rationalizing one person's behavior in respect to the Roosevelt administration and its support of Britain against the nazi's. It's unfortunate that interviews like this happen, they (Brands and others) have a way of rewriting history bit by bit. Its the slow incremental rewriting of American mores and history, its been going on for about 60 yrs now. Get use to it, its only going to get worse... This is revisionism of history in regards to WW2, it was just a matter of time and as they say, 'timing is everything. ", especially in relation to the incoming administration, which by the way will be isolationist...

[@DavidFiorillo-m3o]

I found your interview to be unexpectedly objective and enlightening.I see improvement.I thank you for your excellent report.

[@m.walther6434]

Roosevelt immersed himself into Hitler's opus magnum "Mein Kampf" and understood what was at stake.

[@dansmith3vdhrj]

Whitewashing Lindberg, or whitewashing isolationalism?

[@jude999]

Which part of "avoiding foreign entabglements" do Americans not understand?

[@chectasy1731]

It's 1798 U.S. Alien Enemies Act..

[@weebitboyo9939]

MAGA!! Cheers

[@tommytorrence7553]

I’ve read nearly all of H.W. Brand’s books. America at large needs to hear the voice of this learned man.

[@yvonneplant9434]

Never heard of him.

[@BenSussmanpro]

“…a not in my country club kind anti-semite…which was extremely common in the US…” This historian says this so admiringly of Lindbergh. Makes me want to vomit!

[@paulcunningham2859]

Nature abhores a vacuum. If not us, the USA then who. And if not now when. As in the dominoes falling. The usa was barely a major power before wwtwo. Our military was very weak. What we had were lots of resources and most importantly two very large oceans separating us from the old world. Now after 80 odd years as a super power and 30 years as the leading super power we are stuck with the title if the worldw policeman. Like it ir not. Honestly the comparison to 1941 is really ridiculous. Im an isolationist at heart. The world could go to hell in a hand basket as far as im concerned. However the resulting chaos would be terrible and something i dont wont to live with. When else can do it. The UN. What a joke. The EU. Even more so. Do you really want to live under china or Russian control.

[@mw8498]

Search: Lindbergh Said to Regret Misperceptions Over Jews By HERBER MITGANG

[@MiyangChoi]

Old people die from compromised immunity contracting disease like pneumonia which Herber Mitgang died from at 93.

[@nilswedin8480]

You must be able to show that you are the leader of the free world. If not then you are not a leader and others will take over. There are challengers.

[@Lynn-i2w]

You are not if you answer to rich donors.

[@siuabc]

“Free world”??? Lol

[@jamesburge1983]

Exactly. A leader who refuses to lead is not a leader, just a delusional, arrogant fool.

[@tommcfadden5232]

A much better host of Face the Nation than what’s her name😊

[@davidjames2083]

*Over here in Brexit Britain it's more like 1066!* 👍😎🇬🇧🍺🥃💊💊💊

[@joiedevie3901]

"Not-in-my-country-club-kind-of-anti-Semite"---what??? As opposed to what other kind? First of all, that is a totally inchoate means of defining anti-Semitism if Brand's idea is to offer some relative scale of bigotry. And if Lindberg expressed his anti-Semitism that way, then the burden of proof on how restrained its manifestations where otherwise rests with him. It is as if Brands is trying to define "a little bit pregnant." One would expect more of an historian at an elite US university---or maybe not.

[@HananSaleh-y7l]

If it means that you will not send weapons to Israel, then America first is a great agenda.

[@Jackthestripper]

Do you think that America is going to stop sending weapons to Israel?

[@Lynn-i2w]

@@Jackthestripper get rid of the AIPAC recipients in Congress and we have a chance.

[@georgesheffield1580]

????

[@DSAK55]

silly child 😅😅

[@halfon005]

US Sells weapons to all...friends at the moment.

[@gregparrott]

This is an excellent historical comparison. However, there is a sharp contrast between a young, adventurous engineer and a decrepit, criminal grifter.

[@allred6505]

Love brands

[@Mario500NOW]

(note: music between these points of the length of this video: 1:05 - 1:10)

[@Fallout-mw3wk]

I'm pretty sure that's a helicopter

[@user-gi9cl5yt4w]

The slow and incremental rewriting of history, CBS and this interviewer should rethink what their purpose is. Is it News or an opinion by a historian. Lindbergh was a isolationist and an anti semite (saying that it wasn't uncommon just further confirms it) and completely wrong. I'm all for a good history lesson, but hw brands historical opinion is just that, an interpretation of history and a particular individual. Then as now, misinformation vs fact...

[@random-J]

The last 20 years have proved you wrong

[@18_rabbit]

the afghan/iraq wars were pushed on us by ultraconservative GOP and like Vietnam were misguided, delusional. Now we have an actual threat that menaces western civilization itself. Educated yourself. Ww2 never ended in the minds of the medieval russians!

[@imperialmotoring3789]

So glad Trump is back! USA will again be on top, after12 years of Obama and Biden.

[@rmoitoza1]

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN AMERICA FIRST NOT LAST WITH THE DEMOCRAT PLATFORM IS

[@Robin-bk2lm]

Smallest popular majority in decades. At least Democrats don't go whining to mama that everyone cheats except them, everyone is a loser except them, that they'll take the country back to 1860.

[@patriciapage2109]

Great! So when trump breaks with our international friends, we're on our own. Hmmm, can't imagine that going badly 😅 And when immigrants are deported at the astronomical cost of billions, we can head to our gardens and pick All our fruits and vegetables. No? No garden? Hope you don't mind $5.00 for an orange or an onion.

[@LoneStar62]

MAGA is a short sighted political movement. It thinks it’s dismantling a so called “deep state”, when it’s actually dismantling the Republic itself. Trump doesn’t believe in “America First”, he believes in “Trump First”. Under MAGA, by hitching their cart to the Trump donkey, the US is cutting its nose off to spite its face. If the US backs away from leading the world (i.e., “America First”), it encourages a multi-polar world, which is inherently more dangerous than a uni-polar or bi-polar world.

[@intheshell35ify]

​@@patriciapage2109 you tell the fool all about it!! The trees all chipped in and bought the farmer a chainsaw for his birthday! 😮

[@rmoitoza1]

@@patriciapage2109 I HAVE A GARDEN AND ORANGE TREES U R DELUSIONAL

[@jimbowling8528]

Yeah. What goes around comes around. Beginning with it's founding, the U S has fought a major war every 80 years or so - 1776, 1861, 1941, ? We're about due for the next one.

[@PS-js9oh]

Oh ...we're practically in it now, but it's just that our treasure got to the front first.

[@siuabc]

How many other wars USA been involved or initiated since ww3?

[@scotshuthats5268]

Agree with Lindberg ...a nonzionist.😊

[@Spectre2434]

C'est Tragique No

[@riley5329]

Boring.

[@georgesheffield1580]

Typical im know something about this ,THEREFORE i know everything ,even if i don't know 💩

[@13Liberty50]

BS this AH is just trying to make money and sell a book.

[@18_rabbit]

Now we have an actual threat that menaces western civilization itself. Educated yourself. Ww2 never ended in the minds of the medieval russians!

[@krtt750]

The Second World War?

[@PS-js9oh]

Surprised it wasn't the war of 1812. When things get bad enough for the left-wing turtle media ...their natural move is to hide in their shell ...til'26

[@ftd224]

20,000+ dead Gazan children.....America first.

[@groofoot]

Shouldn't have poked the bear ... 8-)

[@Tavat]

There will be more now. Trump’s evangelical Christian Zionist State department doesn’t think Palestine is a real place or Palestinians a real people.

[@dougsfriendskeeter]

😂😂😂 they are really trying to pull the Trump hitler bs still 😂😂😂😂

[@siuabc]

Where are the actual source of “propaganda”?? Trump said Hitler ‘did some good things’ and wanted generals like the Nazis, former chief of staff Kelly claims. JDV once called him ‘America’s Hitler’

[@Aspen567]

So pointless. Face the Nation is pure garbage nowadays

[@JB-uv4hm]

This guy grinds out more puff than any other historian. The TA sweat shop must be going 24/7.

[@13Liberty50]

The debate is over

[@18_rabbit]

no, DJT has NO mandate for a two reasons at least: it was not even close to the closest to an actual pop vote majority and total EC votes,, way way down historically on the list! Two, his plans are plainly unamerican that go against every single ethic and norm and law we have developed since around 130 years ago. Three, the voters got NO CHANCE re the prosecutions to hear the content! That's a miscarriage of justice bcuz there was no public disclosure at all in toto, let alone in an organized fashion and thus the voters were disenfranchised by getting impresion the cases are weak,w hich they were NOT! THIS is a rolling coup since 2020 and everyone can see it who EVER picked up a history book in their lives, and even those who didn't but have impressions of political reality by being well informed. We yanks are not gonna take this rolling coup at all and we will resist every ...single...thing of an antiamerican-values nature, which is MOST of what DJT is pushing

[@NDARYBC]

I like Autocrcracy more democracy😆...

[@patriciapage2109]

Autocracy you mean right 🤪

[@lrdgz4444]

America First used by Naz Cs back in the day

[@Lynn-i2w]

Once the lobby was established, there never was an America first.

[@joeedge576]

If a nation desires a voice in world affairs, it must at the very least have a seat at that table.... If a nation desires to have a 'leading' voice in the affairs of the world the only place to accomplish that, is at the 'Head of the Table'.... I want to be ‘at the table, NOT on the menu’…. If you isolate yourself from everyone, you become easy prey for those who want everything you have. YOU will be on the menu....