Thomas Friedman on the Future of America and the World: The Post-Election Dissection (Part 1)

[@Intelligence-Squared]

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[@robertcarli1969]

Um , Ah 😂

[@RonSkalko]

😂

[@Blivot]

1937 Germany is coming to life before our very eyes and we are still acting like it's not going to be our last Christmas?

[@ELIOSANFELIU]

Thank you¡¡

[@xclampazzo]

Garbage

[@rustylidrazzah5170]

A centrist perspective. He is a good example of how badly the US needs an actual left wing party. He is considered to be on the left from a US perspective. He is obviously a conservative anywhere else.

[@c.a.savage5689]

True.

[@fanonche1]

Absolutely

[@Seekthetruth3000]

Then, you must be a Marxist!

[@traviscutler9912]

The DNC'S not the Left, they support corporations over workers, they support the establishment instead of civil rights and wars over peace which makes them neoliberals. I'm a socialist who doesn't support any of that crap as I care about people in my community, not shareholders. Until Americans vote 3rd party we're f'd.

[@traviscutler9912]

The DNC's sole purpose is to block Bernie & the working class and force them to choose between empty identity politics neoliberalism or Republican's violent fascism. The system works.

[@ichifish]

I don't think any discussion of US politics is complete without recognizing the strength of partisan, particularly right wing, media. The majority of Trump voters have been propagandized into disbelieving their own eyes, and the left has been led to believe that people are rational rather than tribal.

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

And ALL of them have been convinced that culture and social justice is what they need instead of economic growth for ALL the working class people.

[@JG80293]

Right wind media?!? All traditional media but Fox was behind Harris. I think the Democrats lost because they didn’t have any idea of why we should vote for them. Vilifying your opponent to a point of comparing him with Hitler was just wrong.

[@aftdel]

Thank you. This is a perfect caricature of a certain kind of progressive “thinking”. Everything written here is either utterly wrong or the precise opposite of the truth. It’s a good reminder to those who get wobbly…look at what the other side actually believes!

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@aftdelWhat exactly are you referring to when you say “this is a perfect caricature of a certain kind of progressive ‘thinking’?” Maybe you’d care to clarify? What’s your comment a reply to? The original video? One of the two comments here? If so which one? In any case if everything you’ve watched, heard or read here is so “utterly wrong” and the “precise opposite of the truth” then maybe there’s something definite, better and more truthful you’d like to elaborate upon and share with us all on behalf of all you truly enlightened people out here … when you’re all not busy being “wobbly”? Or did you just learn the word “caricature” this semester in sophomore English and been waiting to try it out trolling in a KZbin comment section?

[@aftdel]

@@B_Estes_Undegöetz Well let’s see. My comment is a reply to the main comment above me. Pretty easy to see that. To call the majority of 76 million Trump voters “propagandized”. Really? The lawyers and doctors and electricians and nurses and bankers and store owners and plumbers? That’s utterly wrong, not to mention risible. “Right wing media”? The mainstream media is almost all left wing, who said the ugliest things I’ve ever heard said in a presidential election before about a candidate. They don’t speak to power, they defend power. Democrat power. Woodward and Bernstein is long gone. I could give hundreds of examples. I grant the alt media has plenty of right of center folks, but plenty left of center too. Let’s dispense of the ridiculous word “propagandized” shall we. It radiates heat, not light. But my favorite part, the bestest part, is the noble declaration that the left is rational not tribal. The left not tribal. Hilarious! So…the opposite of the truth. And yes, a “caricature” (shout out to my 10th grade English teacher Mr. Steinman). And grotesque.

[@samisalib3135]

Its always a pleasure to watch Friedman. Thank you.

[@animal9370]

I'll keep this simple for you.... America is living in The Age of Stupid.

[@SLHJR0390]

49.8 % of Americans are intellectually stupid or lazy.

[@warrenjones1936]

But we just voted them out.

[@davidedickjr]

@@warrenjones1936 The new set is definitely no better. The only thing going for them is they might disrupt the intellectually & morally bankrupt establishment/systems running this USA...but I'm not holding my breath.

[@TheVeritas2100]

I'll keep this simple for you.... ***America WAS living in The Age of Stupid.*** . WHEN the Lefty Libturds took over the last 4-8 years ! .... but the American VOTER has now 'decoded' the INSANITY the "stupid" Libturds tried to FORCE the Americans into their WOKE WORLD ! Surprise, surprise .... America SPOKEN LOUD & CLEAR ! 🙂

[@benbohannon]

When the world advances beyond what the majority can comprehend… do we still ask the majority to cast votes they cannot explain?

[@jimlau6791]

Thanks!

[@justinleemiller]

He was wrong about everything for two decades. Why are we still inviting him to speak?

[@RohanKumar-zr3pj]

In his book, the world is flat, he predicted that two Asian Giants would rise in 2020 India and China

[@feliksplotnikov6408]

@@RohanKumar-zr3pjit was not difficult to predict. I made the same prediction. I made other predictions as well. And I am an ordinary man.

[@Chowringhee]

@@RohanKumar-zr3pjThey were already there!!

[@PatKav]

Why are you watching this?😮

[@michigandersea3485]

Every mainstream politician has been wrong about almost everything for two decades. Why are we still electing them. I consider myself a moderate, but the influence of the b*llionaires is going to destroy democracy. If we don't join some group that is serious about taxing b*llionaires out of existence, they are going to give us techno-feudalism. So, I am joining the Democratic S*cialists of America, nutty as they are.

[@ScottLay-h9c]

Thomas Friedman the cheerleader for the Iraq war wants to give foreign policy advice. That’s rich.

[@arthurswanson3285]

Yep. Why he's consulted on anything is baffling.

[@radhikaschwartz3499]

Give it up. Everyone makes mistakes. Let it go he has made many good wise decisions

[@P3rson.lInf0]

@@arthurswanson3285 no it's not. he's consulted because he'll say whatever benefits the ruling class and they're running the show

[@P3rson.lInf0]

@@radhikaschwartz3499 He doesn't believe it was a mistake he has never apologized for and claimed he "would do it again"

[@frankmarsh1159]

@@radhikaschwartz3499 The Trump supporters are all saying the war in Iraq was a huge mistake. They are saying Iraq had no ties to Al Queda and nothing to do with 911 so the war made no sense from the get go. They are saying EXACTLY the same things the anti -war people said over 20 years ago...

[@apexerman1]

Trump's endurance can be summed up by his quasi-religious appeal. It doesn't matter how many lies he's told, how many laws he's broken, or how much bigotry he shows, his followers feel existential threats from every corner and their fears are answered with the fire and brimstone that would surely impress preachers from another age. He cuts through the mucky muck of a thousand voices and becomes elevated to savior. It's remarkable the human propensity to assuage fear of the unknown.

[@pietwandelaar1743]

He spent enough years in the TV business selling nonsense to fools to become an expert at manipulating them. Now, his administration will be like an endless replay of all the dumbest imaginable TV shows.

[@VictorLopez-z1z]

Your analysis is irrational, it is like the Church with Galileo; "those who reject our dogmas are ignorant or evil"

[@pietwandelaar1743]

He spent enough years in the TV business selling nonsense to fools to become an expert at manipulating them. Now, his administration will be like an endless replay of all the most inane TV shows.

[@jenniferabel2811]

Meh, I think he just hates the same public narratives, and narrative-pushers, that a lot of people hate. He has a lot of true believers, but not nearly enough to get him elected. Those who voted for him through held-noses, or allowed him to be elected by staying home, were quite simply saying NO to the new liberal elite that--through its control of most institutions--has abrogated to itself the power to decide who people are and what they can think and say (enforced now through censorship).

[@chiaraA.]

I can attest to this - I have a religious friend who is intelligent and we have a great friendship - she is a stanch defender of her vote for that guy and while we don't discuss politics, the only thing I can figure out why she would be this blind is her piousness towards her religion

[@sjoerd1239]

I do not think Trump is stupid, but I do think he is given far more credit for understanding the world than he deserves. It is more that he gets away with how he behaves.

[@tyeadel]

His age and lifestyle have degraded his cognitive abilities; his malignant narcissism and susceptibility to flattery are alarming.

[@WingkKong]

​@@tyeadelhe does not believe in War

[@hawkname1234]

Annie Liebowiztz famously said, before Trump entered politics, "You don't know anybody as stupid as Donald Trump. You just don't."

[@sjoerd1239]

​@hawkname1234 Power is largely mantained by having the positions of those under you being dependent on you being in your position. We can see how Trump sets that up.

[@WingkKong]

@@hawkname1234 I think he only have onething which is Smarter than the democrat He understands America people do not want ww3

[@donaldseekins6516]

Friedman has lots of sympathy for the Secretary of State, Tony Blinken. But both Friedman and Blinken totally lack a moral compass.

[@NorthSeaWisdom]

Really?..how?

[@garypuckettmuse]

I'm completely unclear about why you are calling him "Tony" Blinken . . .and not sure at all how anyone in his position is supposed to demonstrate "a moral compass". He serves the President at the president's pleasure.

[@ai._m]

@@garypuckettmuseby pleasure you must mean ice cream. Too far gone for anything else.

[@lancewalker6067]

@@NorthSeaWisdomit appears you might as well🤦‍♂️

[@Sam-ne9ns]

@@NorthSeaWisdom They are both catholics! lol

[@americo7965]

This guy is such an establishment chump. Zero. Credibility

[@felixthecat0606]

Mark 'suck on this' Friedman. An absolute piece of kaka.

[@Doug5007]

No no no - he is very insightful

[@lancewalker6067]

@@Doug5007no, no, he’s not.

[@skarmazin]

@@lancewalker6067 yes yes yes.He IS.

[@SVmathfarmer]

Yes he is. He’s a known Trump hater

[@deetwise4631]

I've never thought anyone is as clever as Thomas Friedman thinks Thomas Friedman is clever.

[@PatriciaPalmer-o3e]

💥 He um'd and um ah'd me out of here.

[@hopeinparis]

The endless up-speak is also beyond tedious?

[@DerrickDissel]

You obviously were not listening to the substance

[@PatriciaPalmer-o3e]

@DerrickDissel I'm 79, and had my fill of years of Friedmen's "substance" and find it sadly lacking.

[@AtelierCSP-zb3lp]

The substance gets lost in the violence of the humms

[@PatriciaPalmer-o3e]

@@AtelierCSP-zb3lp Struck me deaf, dumb and mute.

[@Chowringhee]

Tom has been marketing his mediocre and dreary ‘gravitas’ for decades. Now he’s nothing but a bore.

[@kaydub4788]

When he said New York Times Humiliation and Dignity columnist, I honestly thought he was referring to his own humiliation for getting it dead wrong on the Iraq war and Mohammed Bin Salman, amongst many other things.

[@montrose252]

OMG Tom has so many lead balloons, I had even forgetten that he has a boner for MBS, hahaha!

[@MichaelSilbernagel]

This guy is brilliant. Check your facts.

[@xclampazzo]

Pfffffff bahahahaha. Friedman paying to astroturf youtube comments? pathetic

[@JohnRobertsTV]

Curious how Tom Friedman avoided answering the question about the Ukraine war. He decided to promote his book instead.

[@chrism.1131]

The net worth of the top 16 wealthiest people in the United States equals the GDP of Russia. And yet, Russia is still considered a superpower because Ukraine gave them back all of their nuclear weapons.

[@mbenberou9004]

Deep state guy; promoted wars and killings of innocent people as part of his career. Not legitimate to give lessons

[@rhondakoenig6452]

That sir is why he was here… this is what all authors do

[@davidllewis4075]

When I entered high school cir. 1959 four years of history were required for graduation; when our youngest entered in 1996 it was one year. A generation ignorant of history.....

[@michaelkurchak5427]

Why do you think there called trump supporters

[@nordfresse]

I dont know if you are a business or a non-profit but these important discussions should really be available for everybody without a paywall.

[@SaraYimmy]

paywalls - one of the many reasons why people go to free social media platforms and get misinformation more easily

[@xclampazzo]

Nothing about this conversation (or any conversation involving Friedman) is of any importance at all.

[@BobHaikou]

Thomas Friedman is so clever and insightful and not at all completely stupid and a walking joke making the NYT look even stupider than it is. No, let's all listen to what this genius says. Does he have an audience that takes him seriously? Who the heck could they be?

[@conniedean3787]

I was brought up to never call anyone names, make fun of people, moral values, have compassion for the poor sick, disabled, Homeless

[@warrenjones1936]

Is that it? Is that all you have to say? Is that all you aspire to? How sad.

[@Nasrallahelaladdin]

Thomas Fiendman. The man who was absolutely all for the Iraq war.

[@lenderbradford]

Possibly someone from the deep State. Or as Trump says the SWAMP

[@davidames1746]

Have you ever made a mistake, sir?

[@alangrund5031]

"The next three months will be critical. "...................

[@innit-h8p]

A um ahhh.....

[@SLHJR0390]

The gop and conservatives loved that campaign

[@markpowell4615]

Trump prefers to appoint flawed people to positions of power because it gives him leverage over them. Loyalty has always been more important to Trump than competence. He wants yes-men and -women. And he's got them.

[@TesterBoy]

Oh wow! And Biden with his DEI appointments were more qualified?? You statement is pretty dumb!

[@LucienJosephy-bs9eu]

Smartly so hiring a bunch of turncoats the last time around went poorly

[@youAbajajTube]

What a self- aggrandizing, shallow neo- liberal / neo-con puppet

[@David-ee9zg]

Ooooh you're obviously very knowledgeable, why don't you explain what those phrases mean for the less enlightened. You make it sound soooo clever I'm in awe.

[@youAbajajTube]

@David-ee9zg chat GPT is your friend

[@davidlara6549]

Yeah he lost me right at the beginning when he said dems lost bc the woke agenda and defund the police. When Harris never mentioned any of those things lol

[@maddogwillie1019]

It doesn’t matter if she talked about it or not…Trump hung those around her neck like a necklace of foul smelling cheese…and she never pushed back…she never defined that defund the police was more about reforming then terminating..and the woke is about because aware that someone or a group of someone’s are being treated different just because they different…and who determines what is different….no the Dems blow this one big time…Dems play badminton while the GOP plays tennis

[@c.a.savage5689]

Harris didn't HAVE to mention them. Fox News and all the right-wing media have been screaming it from the rooftops since BLM riots.

[@davidlara6549]

Oh yeah that's right. I remember now 😂

[@sarahterry2140]

Same.

[@adambeck8180]

They didn't this election cycle, but people remember.

[@jazzis4u1]

In an appearance on Charlie after the Iraq war his message to the Iraqi people was “suck on this“. Stunningly, ignorant man!

[@Withnail1969]

Really? I didn't think I could despise him any more but he plumbs new depths

[@teejaye6226]

Electoral college plays a large part, votes simply do not matter in presidential elections in 43 of 50 states and the voters know it. 60 million registered voters in Texas and California, only 20 million voted.

[@tradeprosper5002]

But the votes that count do change over time. The swing states today are different from those of the past and they will continue to change. Popular vote would mean that only the coasts will get attention.

[@ralphstarling6707]

It seems to me that America is just stupid! We are addicted to drama!

[@daniellou9334]

A typical self-centered and self-importance supposedly "smart" guy with no original thoughts of his own.

[@SVmathfarmer]

AKA Tommy F

[@earl-d4n]

this traitor trump presidency will not be an "experiment" as much as it WILL BE A TRAIWRECK.

[@Withnail1969]

He believes AI is real, that's a bad sign

[@HC-iu1vs]

and you have elucidated nothing about the future of America in your comment. So, proceed...

[@justjack1]

Thomas Friedman starts his infomercial by making the assertion that the "woke agenda" and "defund the police" were factors in the 2024 Presidential election. Using phrases like this, which have no common meaning bypasses our rational language-using capacity. This helps us understand something about propaganda, advertising, public relations and why so much popular political discussion is irrational.

[@KaleSmithHawaii]

Who else ‘s IQ diminished by its square root after hearing this dribble ?

[@hawkname1234]

You mean, "drivel?" Seems like you didn't have much to lose. It's always weirdos who talk about IQ.

[@KaleSmithHawaii]

what was the name of the program? IQ squared ? So I guess you like watching weirdo shows? Shows have IQ literally in their name ? Was just a word play for fun and go ahead look up dribble; it’s what I imagined you’re doing as you read this

[@KaleSmithHawaii]

@@hawkname1234 what was the name of the program? IQ squared ? So I guess you like watching weirdo shows? Shows that have IQ literally in their name ? Was just a word play for fun and go ahead look up dribble; it’s what I imagined you’re doing as you read this

[@helmutschillinger3140]

A serious bragger and clueless about the psychological reasons Trump was elected. Too man uhms which describes him basically!

[@eschwarz1003]

Well felt like he made a good insight about AI and impending Environmental collapse, as convergent extreme disruptive forces of uncertainty. BUT she was ANNOYING with presumptions posed as questions which he had to field. tRump didn't 'listen' to sh!t. He took advantage of people suffering and was bolstered/ directed completely by nefarious sources; Putin (1000s of Russian troll farms and ops), techbros with agendas, big oil with agendas. tRump is just a transactional human carcass for the sale in ego units

[@FuadMohamed-k7o]

"The question is what right we have to a democracy over here that exacts the price of Genocide in defence of apartheid over there?". Ta nehisi coates.

[@MrTea7]

Too bad Coates and his leftist followers don't care about the Indigenous Muslim Uighurs in China. Slave cotton anyone? OR the women & girls in Iran (or the rest of the Islamic world).

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

Just another neoliberal simp. Someone who’s not a billionaire pays to hear this nonsense anymore? Unbelievable. This guys got no credibility… boo him off the stage. None!

[@SVmathfarmer]

Yep just here to see if he is still irrelevent

[@jackselvia2709]

"Against the power of stupidity, the gods, themselves, rage in vain." Friedrich Schiller

[@KurtFeudaleKing]

My god, I am sorry, but anyone that says "ummm" ... "Ahhhhh" nearly 100 times in a few min is INSANELY hard to listen to. Let alone be taken as any kind of "intellectual".

[@eddiel8708]

The sooner the Domocrats start looking after middle class workers (wages & conditions) instead of big business the better it will be.

[@marttivallila]

What about the disastrous foreign policy of the Biden administration? Isn’t that supposed to be an area of your expertise? This man is a dinosaur.

[@SLHJR0390]

Just wait for this Trump disaster … he’s already not ended the war in Ukraine before taking power as promised

[@katherinekatiehunter7237]

What was wrong with bidens foreign policy? At he doesn't want to be a dictor like evil immoral trump.

[@SVmathfarmer]

He hates Trump so Biden can do no wrong

[@DKBarie]

I have always thought that one can"t reasonably expect someone to derive a correct conclusion, inference or answer without first framing the question properly, thoroughly and contextually. This interview reveals that even when a question is framed insightfully and/or presciently, that doing so is no guarantee that a correct response will be forthcoming from Mr. Friedman.

[@briangraham1024]

Ummm ahh ummm ahh ummmmm etc. etc. etc ... ?????????? ... 😮 ... by the way, is the world still flat? 😂

[@terrainofthought]

goated

[@SVmathfarmer]

Ummmmmmmmmm

[@brendapaint]

you obviously didnt read it.

[@xxcrysad3000xx]

4:15 -- "Sometime in the last 10 years, people went to the grocery store and the person behind the register wasn't wearing a baseball hat." This is the example Tom chooses to highlight in order to illustrate cultural drift so alienating to typical American voters that it's made them turn to Trump? Seriously? 1) No major grocery store chain that I'm aware of in the US let's their employee's wear a baseball hat to work. A standard baseball cap with the store logo on it was part of the uniform around 20 years ago, but not everyone wore it, and they're considered optional now. 2) Why would working class types feel alienated by seeing other working class types wear baseball caps? Working class people love sports, they love to represent their teams and talk about sports with fellow fans. The types of people who'd be alienated by cashiers or any other working class person for that matter wearing a ballcap aren't Trump voters, if anything they're the more educated and higher income types who have, since 2012, been trending Democrat. People like, oh I don't know... Tom Friedman.

[@brianmclindsay1525]

Thomas Friedman has been someone I have listened closely to for years. Unfortunately, after hearing him mischaracterize Donald Trump, a person I do not like myself, I will never again believe him and his comments at face value. What a shame to tell untruths when talking about someone who is so abrasive he needs only to be listened to, to be disliked. Thomas has permitted his personal bias to state things that are untrue about Trump.

[@BobHaikou]

listened closely ? I would not listen to him from far away. He is utterly out of touch with reality, or just paid to spout.

[@wayneriley7367]

Agreed, trump can be entertaining? He is a moron, morons can’t only entertain other morons. I don’t think I could even come to shake trumps hand. Trump just took advantage of our stupidity, not because he is a genius but because he believes in what he says and other idiots think that way.

[@VonKirda]

Hard to say untruths about Trump, as contradicting Trump most of the time means stating a truth.

[@BobHaikou]

@@VonKirda I wouldn't know. I listen to neither Friedman nor Trump. What they say contains no useful information. I didn't listen to the podcast on this page. I just saw the intro screen of Thomas with a headset and his hand out trying to look like he has something useful to say. He doesn't. I suggest completely ignoring Trump. Everyone hangs on his every word trying to interpret what he says. Listen to Jeffrey Sachs instead if you want useful info.

[@TheVeritas2100]

****Thomas has permitted his personal bias to state things that are untrue about Trump.**** LOL! ....if you write for the NYT , you have to LIE when it comes to Trump ! 😞

[@user-le8by2nj9r]

I hate A.I. (I'm a science and engineering major) and I am done with the absolutely fucked up American politics.

[@Blivot]

1937 Germany is coming to life before our very eyes and we are still acting like it's not going to be our last Christmas?

[@Seekthetruth3000]

How do you get your news?

[@Bitternov]

I think closer to 1933 Germany. Well, right there any which way. A population in unrest. Inflation and the rise of food prices. Inequality. It's all here. Fight or flee time. Yeah, maybe 1936-7 ish. Putin's finger wavering over the button.

[@Bitternov]

Maybe 1933--well, OK 36-37ish possible. Fight or Flee, your choice.

[@phillee8666]

Strong wills with low knowledge and morality is the worst combination for a person to be in power. Most of the US politicians from both parties are with strong wills.

[@ObserverOne6727]

Many many people that are miserable in some way internally say/think "F You", and one aspect of Donald J Trouble's appeal was that he essentially said that out loud, very frequently, in many directions, toward many people.

[@VintageSoloHarmony]

Yeh we all bin polyf**ked by da Don.

[@hawkname1234]

That is what fascists do. It's straight out of the authoritarian playbook. And a large fraction of Americans are eager fascists as well.

[@c.a.savage5689]

Trump IS America. This 8s what a slim majority wanted. This is what they got. Sadly "we" will ALL get what they deserve.

[@helmutschillinger3140]

Trump always appealed to the more primitive instincts.

[@robinehorvath5010]

Some serious denial going on and self righteousness. Did they not learn one thing they are telling us they didn’t listen to?

[@rustylidrazzah5170]

A centrist perspective. He is a good example of how badly the US needs an actual left wing party. He is considered to be on the left from a US perspective. He is obviously a conservative right winger anywhere else

[@helmutschillinger3140]

Just like the two political parties of the US, which for decades in Europe were compared to a symbolic American eagle who can never fly, because it has two right wings.

[@robertlivingstone442]

The US empire is crumbling before our eyes. People are becoming less intelligent, more close-minded, less tolerant and more fearful. We are being manipulated b y social media in the most fundamental ways. In this election, Americans chose fear, distrust, intolerance and hatred. No nation can survive this kind of twisted destructive thinking. Or lack thereof. Poor us.

[@jcataldo1988]

It blows my mind that people are still interested in his opinion, he's been demonstrably wrong on every issue.

[@najibsouds]

And the World is better off without Thomas Friedman’s participation.

[@thegouda123]

Someone needs to tell Freidman that he needs to stop saying "umm" "ahh". PLEASE.

[@SVmathfarmer]

He’s has always been an um-er

[@juhanleemet]

the first series of meetings at ToastMasters would help! it helped me

[@JustAThought01]

Complexity is the enemy of reason. Tom is laying out the problem. We need to look for the underlying simple concepts needed to resolve the issues. Do not expect to understand everything unless you approach gaining knowledge as a philosopher. The thought is either right or wrong. The action is either good or evil. The solution is for each to strive to do no harm.

[@terrainofthought]

take out all of Thomas' "ummms" and "ahhhs" and the video will shorten to 15 minutes. The man keeps censoring his lies for better lies.

[@abduraqeebwhite9421]

Writer and Journalist T. Friedman has created political thought so accurately with his appraisal we can say he is not status-quo but progressive!

[@PatKav]

It was always a pleasure to listening to Mr. Friedman speaking. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@xclampazzo]

You must like being lied to.

[@PianoRed]

For a prize winning journalist he sure does use "Um" & "Uh" a whole lot....it's rather distracting.

[@candyleonard]

Why does anyone care anymore what Friedman has to say?

[@SVmathfarmer]

I sure don’t !!! Only here to see how lame he still is

[@ruthokubo806]

Hard to listen to with all the ‘ums’. What does that mean? Um…

[@MichalDennis]

Climate Change should have been the number one topic., and not just global warming. The loss of bee, the decimation of bird populations, loss of habitat.

[@10317]

I’m um having um a hard time um listening um because um he should um have learned how um to speak in front um of an audience um years ago!

[@SandraBeberian]

Brilliant man. Thank you. From an American who voted for Harris. I read his editorials in nyt.

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

@@SandraBeberian This traditional liberal nonsense tied to neoliberal capitalist ideology is what keeps costing the country any hope of recovering sensible governance and has encouraged the nation to continue its accelerating decent into the outrageous incompetent misanthropic political theatre in its place. This man has NO credibility left. He keeps saying this same stuff even as his economic policies are fulfilled they produce none of the social benefits we’re supposed to derive from them. Stop listening to him. We get the opposite effects from following his market capitalism. Time to stuff a sock in it Tom. They’ve BEEN doing what you day. The country gets worse.

[@goripple438]

Interesting, but when the most used word is "um" makes it too difficult to listen to.

[@Swift_2028]

Did this guy ever have an original and useful idea?

[@xclampazzo]

He invented the Friedman Unit... "You gotta give Bush another 6 months to turn it around in Iraq. Oh I've been saying this for 3 years and everyone's caught on and I've become a laughing stock? Well I'm sure that will change in 6 months"

[@justinfaugno7382]

All I got from this was that he says "um and uh" the entire time

[@ulfulf7563]

Dreadful. You are right. I couldn't listen to that and logged out

[@profchukwuemekaeke1808]

I don't agree with over 68% of the postulations here, but it's a great preview

[@i_am_elle_gee6917]

I can't believe that Friedman would mistake Trump's political promises as policies.

[@brendatenorio5721]

And Blinken backed by long-standing bad policy.

[@iantercero5380]

"...and umm, ahhh, umm, ummm...." half this interview is that, just a heads up. 😂

[@CK-vp2wf]

Direct Democracy, the only way out.

[@juhanleemet]

impractical: not everything can or should be a referendum, takes too long

[@arhondasmith2490]

Million less voted in this election, than during a pandemic

[@lsoutherlandjennings9751]

Very articulate

[@xclampazzo]

I sure heard a lot of Uhhhs and Aahhhs. Not articulate.

[@mamounali5707]

The US keeps fail on the international political arena. Simply because the keep pocking their nose on virtually everything

[@5unny5ide]

This guy is literally why the Democrats lost. He has zero understanding of what Americans want or why they voted for Trump. I hope he never learns or gains understanding. That way people like him can continue to lose.

[@SLHJR0390]

He is a gop operative … a conservative.

[@c.a.savage5689]

What makes you think that the people who voted for Trump (and what we represents) will continue to back him a year from now??

[@SLHJR0390]

@ because they identify with him. They see the leaves in him.

[@catxnc]

A rebuttal is needed with this guy.

[@travaller1]

❗️Umm’s ❗️on steroids; he should ‘listen’ to himself… 🤯

[@FemFlorida]

I think affordable accessible reliable birth control was the Promethean moment

[@brianbennett9478]

No one is further removed from reality than Friedman. Very silly.

[@Seekthetruth3000]

He lives in an Orwellian bubble.

[@SVmathfarmer]

Ummmmmmmmmm

[@johnnewell7535]

Intelligence is not a word i would use to describe Tommy the bush league what ever he is claiming to be today. An author, are you kidding me, his books are claptrap.

[@HoushangSemino]

New York Times used to be a reasonable news paper but now is turning to a conservative news paper

[@ckyam7331]

😢 this Interview, shows a Guy who is surfing on waves that favour only his career. Selling books, and giving speeches. No contents. Never again.

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

Agreed! Who the hell is paying to hear this nonsense and thus paying this guy’s mortgage on his second house and third car? Put the fiddle away Tom. Rome is burning ya numbskull. You’re wrong!

[@TokyoLamia]

Thomas L. Freed-man? Isn't he the guy that just loved the Iraq adventure circa 2002-2005 or thereabouts?

[@brementmark]

The “defund police” vs. beat and kill policemen???? Your take is off. Tom! You used to be right. But you are missing the boat

[@BigGuy8059]

Harris had NOTHING to do with "defund the police". She was a prosecutor and state AG, for God's sake. All the "issues" that Trump used against her were manufactured by MAGA. Besides his ignorant cult members, her real problem was that some important parts of the expected Democratic coalition will never vote for a woman for president. It's a cultural thing, and better policies can't overcome those.

[@sarahterry2140]

He is way off the mark.

[@brianrobertson7012]

Inflation created by the banks,the USA dollar went from 1/37 a ounce of gold in 1971 to 1/500 a ounce in 1980 today 1/2600 a ounce.

[@yunzhang9471]

Can’t believe I spent 10 mins listening to some from New York time and giving my last hope that they might not lie this time 😅

[@erickahamburg9503]

you prefer Paraguay?

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

Saying "uuhhh" is the sign of an unintelligent mind

[@joeyhandles]

Awesome to hear someone put these big things into simple terms that are very easy to follow.

[@adamrmoss]

Yeah definitely keep listening to this guy

[@Legnerps]

Yeah ... baseball hats on the checkout counter...that was the straw that broke the Kamala's back.What malarky.

[@sarahterry2140]

Completely absurd and undermining anything that might have made sense afterwards.

[@janicehellzen8765]

Yes that was a crazy comment. Even though my daughter’s mother in law said schools went downhill when teachers started wearing jeans. So that mentality is out there to a point. Maybe those voters don’t feel respected any longer. It’s not how I feel but a lot of people do feel that way.

[@georgethecurious670]

I dare to say that I have a hunch about Trump: most politicians and celebrities in general are glamorous on outside, not so much on inside mildly put. Trump is total oposit and people figured it out and love it, and voted accordingly.

[@SVmathfarmer]

Trump is going to do just fine. The left is just losing it. History will be kind to Trump. Look at his first term. He is no Hitler

[@Stebbok67]

Friedman has always spoken through his arse. A prize gobshite of the highest order.

[@bobpurcell8357]

I stand with those who question the presence of this long-discredited charlatan anywhere near Our Side. Please don't help us 🙏

[@ohnezuckerohnefett]

The Post-American World. What a sobering thought.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

I’ve live in and enjoyed America . Loved their art and music. But the time has come to end the dominance. We will miss them when they are gone

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

As an American, I'm fine with it. I do find it pretty wild how many people seem incapable of realizing that things can actually be worse than they currently are though.

[@OhioVworld]

GL with the Chinese. The world would be much worse without US hegemony.

[@NorthSeaWisdom]

@@jacobjorgenson9285 don’t be ridiculous…the United States is certainly losing some influence and power in the World, by many unforced errors of their own accord. As an American I welcome this but America will always be a powerful country ..not going anywhere

[@c.a.savage5689]

​@@NorthSeaWisdomMaybe not geographically (but with climate change who knows??) but as for the rest....wait and see.

[@walterdaems57]

The future of America will be a terrible past

[@helencahn7293]

Every crisis ever was a poly crisis. No world event is monolithic.

[@smarties6342]

Can't get past 4 minutes of ummm ahhhh

[@stevenjensen7097]

Baseball caps on cashiers? Women in the men's room? Robots at work? Never heard of any of that. Think Friedman is indulging in some reverse engineering.

[@robk8463]

Yeah, what the heck is he talking about?

[@devondevon4366]

He was referring to issues that might have caused some not to vote for the Democrats, from changing demography ( Hence, customers will see it when checking out their item in the supermarket, stores , etc, the cashier looking unlike what they used to ), transgender issues (bathroom, sports), and workers' anxiety (automation in the workforce, robots replacing workers)

[@SLHJR0390]

@@robk8463it’s a shame Trump voters aren’t smarter.

[@c.a.savage5689]

​@@SLHJR0390 it's more than a shame. It's a tragedy.

[@sarahterry2140]

@@devondevon4366The person understood what he was saying but like me, is dubious these types of things were so ubiquitous that they influenced voters. It seemed a derivative analysis with weak examples.

[@robertthorburn339]

Too many 'umms', 'ahhs' can't listen too it.

[@g.e.b.8159]

In all this poly complexity we now have an elected ignoramus puppet whose strings are pulled by Elon Musk who was voted by nobody.

[@PeterFreiling-q3v]

Thomas Friedman has no credibility. 25 years ago he ran around making lots of money by saying the "world is flat". Not sure, but it seems he meant that country borders were disappearing and goods and services could be provided from anywhere. As someone who has lived in many countries on 4 continents, I knew this was BS, but had to listen to his nonsense as an IBM employee. Before he makes any other comments or gives more interviews, he needs to apologize and explain to the American people why he was so very wrong.