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[@Smashtacular01]

I love The Green Screen. Is it new? Looks super high tech. 11/10. Tech innovation ftw.

[@0ceanmachine]

Man I wish that wish that green screen sign was blue, and every time someone brings up the fact that it's blue and not green in the comments, karl just replies with "it is green, we just chroma keyed it to be blue". It would break so many people, it'd be hilarious

[@L337f33t]

My favorite genre of film is the creature/alien/robot rocks up in a small town, building, facility, etc. and it’s up to our characters to keep it from getting to the world at large. Eg. Life, The Thing, Virus, Slither, Tremors. They all follow about the same plot points. Couple people die, characters learn about it, find a weakness, make a plan 50/50 fail or succeed. On a fail, Deus ex machina. Monster is dead/ maybe not if there’s a sequel planned.

[@thebolas000]

I'm a fan of "Small group is recruited to save a village from bandits". So Seven Samurai, Magnificent Seven, Battle Beyond the Stars, Three Amigos, and A Bug's Life.

[@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN]

Does Galaxy Quest count?

[@thebolas000]

@@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN Absolutely

[@adamjfreefall9681]

It's that common it happens with games too, like "Prototype & Infamous" for instance. Both great games that are completely different on the surface but basically the same idea take in 2 different direction & released months apart

[@honem]

"bradles" *giggle snort*

[@jameshewitson4598]

My 2 favourite films with a similar plot is the Lego movie and the matrix

[@wthteevo]

I haven't compared the two until now lmfao

[@ejgoldlust]

Good choice, but which is better

[@VertexTuner]

Some twin movies that always got my attention was 13th Floor, Existenz and The Matrix. They all used the concept of a fake digital reality (what's real and isn't real) and the conspiracies involved for the core of their story, they all released the same year (around March/April 1999). 13th Floor and The Matrix were handled by the BIG studios (Columbia and Warner Bros respectivly) while Existenz and The Matrix used Star Power (Jude Law and Keanu Reeves) for their leading roles. But unlike many twin movies, there was a clear winner in this competition for the box office with The Matrix taking all the accolades, as, while it was using the same core, it's substance was much more in terms of what it attempted to achieve in cinematography and fight choreography for a Hollywood film. 13th Floor played it very safe, feeling almost like a higher budget made for TV movie with some cool effects thrown in and Existenz just had that British cinema feel to it and is also a bit more like Inception with virtual reality in terms of flow (you'll get what I'm saying about the Inception part if you watch it) but with standard filming and nothing but the premise being anything special (and with 2 competing movies using similar core points in their premise, it pretty much disappeared from sight). Personally, at the end of the day, I enjoy all three movies almost equally, just in different ways and I can see why The Matrix managed to succeed where other twin films usually compare evenly, it was the marketing and the focus on the effects and stunts. The other two films were just overshadowed by it very heavily to the point that some conversations I've had with people is the assumption they released a year or so after The Matrix and were just cheap rip-off movies trying to ride the bandwagon.

[@SignoftheGoat666]

I had a good giggle at ya calling Brad, "Bradeels"! I immediately thought to myself, "Brad must have lost a pub bet to get called that, and it gets put into the video." I hope you all stay friends for life.

[@SignoftheGoat666]

Apparently I'm one of the few people left in the world who hasn't seen The Barbie™ Movie. 😅 13:49

[@cerberus144]

CBS took away Craig Ferguson to give us James Corden. Possibly one of the biggest downgrades in Hollywood.

[@russelldavis1539]

Dante's peak/volcano and deep impact/Armageddon both came to mind for me in the intro. I remember them coming out when I was young and comparing notes with my friends over which looked cooler.

[@FuhqEwe]

Pocahontas: Dances With The Last Avatar.

[@pheonixfireblazer]

Two films I can think of which are incredibly similar in their plot are Cars and Doc Hollywood. Bigshot crashes in a small town and has to repair their damage all the while they're itching to leave and get to their big break. Once there they miss the small town. Endings are quite different as McQueen does both and Benjamin Stone chooses to abandon being a plastic surgeon to be a small town doctor but they are weirdly similar. At least they seemed so to me as a kid

[@parasite159]

my favorite twin premise in tv and movies is Babylon 5, and Deep space nine

[@corvididaecorax2991]

Babylon 5 definitely did it better. Sill my favorite sci-fi series. Deep Space Nine is pretty good though.

[@RicPendragon]

As I keep saying to my friends and family, it's BIO-graphical PIC-ture. A Bi Opic sounds like a medical procedure 🤣

[@aaronboothproduction]

Side note: Deep Impact is MUCH better than Armageddon IMO

[@Tannerbot2k]

Dredd and the Raid. Also, White house down was absolutely better than Olympus has fallen.

[@alienatedpoet1766]

I remember you guys mentioned Edge of Tomorrow in another video, and I remember 14 year old me being confused. I didn't like to Cruse, but the premise of Live Die Repeat was really cool, so I was excited. Suddenly it dropped from my radar and I missed out, but I remember a little later when Edge of Tomorrow started to get advertised and I was all "Oh I guess it is twin movies again." Imagine my shock that it turns out, no, they weren't twin movies, it is the same movie with its title changed and I didn't miss out on it at all. Then I heard it did okay at the box office and I was all "Well if you didn't change the title and make us think they were two different movies we would have paid more attention!"

[@FuhqEwe]

You’re apparently confused. The film was never titled, “Live. Die. Repeat.”, during theatrical release. This was the film’s poster tagline, and didn’t find itself attached to the name until the film was set for home media release. The original film title was actually, “All You Need is Kill”, but this was changed to “Edge of Tomorrow” during the theatrical release.

[@alienatedpoet1766]

@@FuhqEwe No, you're getting things confused. All You Need is Kill is the name of the original light novel. It was removed because of "Kill" in the title. Live Die Repeat was on some of the old marketing material, but Warner Bros changed it again, but settled on it to keep it as the tagline because some people already knew it as Live Die Repeat

[@SLVYER1]

Edge of Tomorrow is just groundhog's Day for people who have Adhd

[@alienatedpoet1766]

@@SLVYER1 Time loops are nothing new in any medium. Just saying it it groundhog's day for people with ADHD is like saying Groundhog's Day is just The Time Travelers for idiots. It is reductive and only serves to insult people.

[@SLVYER1]

@@alienatedpoet1766 it's not at all reductive to say the edge of Tomorrow is literally groundhog's Day for people with ADHD. As far as I'm concerned it's literally a movie that profits off of groundhog's Day and it's something that your father you saw groundhog's Day would take you to go see

[@ilpalozzo]

Apparently this is why we'll never get a modern Houdini movie because every studio has a Houdini script and if anyone starts making one another script will get fast tracked

[@Nostripe361]

Olympus has fallen and White House down had me think it was just one movie when they first came out due to how similar they were It took me a week to realize it wasn’t White House Down: Olympus has fallen

[@robertmcghintheorca49]

Love, LOVE *LOVE "The Towering Inferno"! One of my all time favourite films!

[@LoralCrowned]

1983's ”Battle of the Bonds" Octopussy w/Roger Moore vs. Never Say Never Again w/Sean Coonnery

[@robertmcghintheorca49]

Another one is "The Exorcist III" versus "Repossessed" in 1990.

[@samuelbarber6177]

Some twin movies I thought were good were Seven Years In Tibet and Kundun. Both released in 1997. Both biopics of the Dalai Lama focusing on his early years. Seven Years In Tibet was directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud and Kundun was directed by Martin Scorsese. And speaking of Marty, Goodfellas wasn’t the only Henry Hill biopic released in 1990, the other was a comedy with Steve Martin and Rick Moranis and the screenplay for the Steve Martin film, “My Blue Heaven” was even written by Nicholas Pileggi’s wife, Nora Ephron, and of course, Pileggi co-wrote Goodfellas, and apparently a lot of the research for both projects was done in the same sessions.

[@jimbass1664]

Interesting addition to the names: Whilst discussing casting and titles, McQueen (or his agent) insisted on having the left hand side so his name would come first. Newman (or his agent) agreed but asked that in return Newman's name would always be slightly higher on the page. Watch the credits roll and see whose name comes up first. Newman (or his agent) for the win.

[@Aura-Of-Syrinx]

I liked both A Bug's Life and Antz, but thought A Bug's Life was a much better story and I can remember scenes while antz I only remember what they look like

[@ejgoldlust]

The setup was the same but the plots were very different. See also The Prestige and The Illusionist

[@Paradox-es3bl]

Meanwhile, I watched FWBs and NSA like a week apart. I think the Timberlake(?) Mila Kunis one was better from what I remember.

[@dirgle]

Always thought that the similarities between the 13th Floor and the Matrix were interesting. Both came out in 1999 a few months a part, and both ask the question, what if our world is a computer simulation.

[@garykelley9027]

I remember seeing both Armageddon and Deep Impact, the first was more 'feel good' and had more big names and that song that did so well that probably edged it out at the box office, but I remember feeling more satisfied after seeing Deep Impact for how the movie was tonally overall.

[@dmitrivalyria1315]

love the reflection of Brads hand in the play button

[@wesleystockford2616]

James bond, due to rights issues Thunderball and Never say never again are technically the same film

[@SanguiVantasKnightOfSpace]

The Cave will forever be superior to The Descent in my mind, if only for the ending.

[@krell.1415]

My favourite I saw someone compare of two movies with the same plot was To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything and Pixar's Cars

[@thebolas000]

Doc Hollywood has the same plot as well.

[@ladyben-nobilityofbome9793]

It even happens with games. In 2019 we got both the Outer Wilds and Outer Worlds. The story of each game is entirely different, but they both have similar names and are set in space

[@wolfrosefrost5475]

A villain with a sidekick and an army of one eye minions make a grand plan to return to a status quo. Over the course of the story the villain finds a change of heart as they find someone to care about. Said person would feel betrayed by the villain and leave, leading the villain to complete their grand plan. Eventually the villain would end up battling against a more evil villain dressed in orange after they captured the person the villain cares about, rescuing becoming a hero with the orange villain defeated. (Mega mind and Despicable Me)

[@abisnow1843]

Saw the thumbnail, read the title, instant click. I LOVED this movie and still do. Glad to see a FF episode!!!

[@kevingluys3063]

I like the scifi horror movie that stars the male lead from Jurassic Park playing a scientist with a new invention that will revolutionize high speed travel, but when he tests it out, a collision with something unexpected causes him to go insane and kill everyone. (The Fly and Event Horizon)

[@ZS-bg7jo]

Another twin that people forget about is Stir of Echos (criminally under rated) came around the same time as a little indie film, probably did not hear about it, The Sixth Sense. Real shame, i got to do a dry run of Echos alone in a 550 seat auditorium and that sound design...

[@timdavidson8191]

Mario movie is just Spy kids 3

[@robertmcghintheorca49]

Another analogy is "The Exorcist III: Legion" versus "Repossessed" in 1990.

[@OxBigly2010]

My favorite movie that has the same concept as another movie is Forrest Gump. Because it's pretty much just a dramatic retelling of Steve Martin's The Jerk.

[@Charliemc2702]

Surely the etymology behind biopic is Bio- meaning life Pic- picture Therefore the word is Bio-Pic

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

Logically it should be bio-pic, but I’ve always pronounced it bi-opic due to having read it long before ever having heard it spoken out loud and now I can’t shake it. It’s similar to drow in D&D; Ive always read/said it as rhyming with crow, because I only ever read it for so long before I ever heard it spoken, but only ever hear it pronounced to rhyme with cow. Persistently hearing it rhymed with cow means sometimes that’s how I read it, but I still primarily rhyme it with crow.

[@cavebearstudio6517]

If I understand correctly the Saudi’s teamed up to create the ultimate skyscraper inferno movie… although some say it was George W Bush who was the Director, but he claimed it was Saddam Hussein because he forgot how to spell “Alan Smithee.”.

[@MissDHolliday]

"To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar" and "Priscilla Queen of the Desert"

[@Gedrean]

Karl, I have to say, I noticed that there was some time-travel continuity in your videos. The video wherein you show off your brand new Wiglett plush was released AFTER a video where you are playing with it very prominently. Obviously the answer to this is "edit time" because the article for the former was released over a month ago. But still that's a bit of a chuckle to notice.

[@Swift96]

I heard someone from another channel (New Rockstars), say multiple times, he thinks every film is inspired by one of two movies: either Wizard of Oz, or Citizen Kane.

[@jaymarshbank3862]

Reflection in the play button is the new green screen. REVOLUTION! They don't want you to know!

[@matthewschurbert2244]

Olympus white house fell down has Starring Channing Butler and Jamie Freeman

[@booknamebasis]

Barbie had a $200 million advertising budget? No joke, I only learned of its existence literal days before the premiere, from a random social media post.

[@andycanadyan579]

It might not be the same movies at the same time but my picks would be The Raid : Redemption (2011) and Dredd (2012)

[@thelunatick1993]

What show does cordon have now. The late late show ended April 2023. For which from a Red Nose Day sketch we got cad pool karaoke l.

[@dontwannabeahero1570]

The only example of this i know of personally I'd in anime with The asterisk war and tale of the worst one Where both have serveral identical characters and story beats Even down to the love intreast in both being a princess with fire magic who is introduced by a "accidental pervert" scene It's kinda funny honestly how similar they are too the point i can't remember if a particular character is from one or the other

[@denleybarton2623]

dear Karl you may not see this but today i have learned that there is a Robocop game with the original Alex Murphy face and i believe the voice as well just thought you should know since we know you love anything Robocop

[@psykonikk]

need for speed and john wick, both is about revange for a person/animal, that was killed by the villan of the movie. i know not really but close enough haha

[@biglouie2330]

England is made better with the loss of James Cordon. Canada is made better with the loss of Justin Bieber. America gets to be just a little more trashy.

[@kingkarma141]

Summer wars and the digimon movie both tell the story of an evil computer program that has to be stopped by the protagonist before it gets control of the country's nukes.

[@matthewterlaga3022]

Now that you e done this video in the topic, you need to do a video on Who Framed Roger Rabbit, it has the same shenanigans, Disney and war rod characters had to be on screen for the exact same time, had to have the exact same number of lines etc.

[@omnipotentrage492]

If I was in charge of making the poster after the movie was made I would've just left both of them off the poster

[@Diamondelle84]

12:14 That was brilliant 😏

[@jasmithwrites]

Cars and Doc Hollywood are so similar in plot, I've no idea how pixar didnt get sued.

[@chocolatefudgebrowni3225]

I still haven't seen Barbie OR Oppenheimer.... 😮‍💨😞

[@sbsstorytelling]

Chrysler and GM, wtf are ya talkin bout? Great video nonetheless.

[@DFWHoppe]

Volcano w/ Tommy Lee Jones & Dante's Peak w/ Peirce Brosnan

[@sneffels]

what about armagedon and deep impact. 2 movies in the same time about an astroid thats " going to kill the planet"

[@wthteevo]

The green screen lmfao

[@da3va]

love the new green screen

[@TrekTrav]

Avatar and Ferngully The Last Rainforest.

[@metleon]

19:10 It'd be funny if they each insisted they have less lines than the other until the point where neither of them say anything in the entire movie.

[@AshtonRogers-se1zj]

It's a biographical picture,so it sounds like bio-pic.

[@ejgoldlust]

How about Alien and Die Hard? Just depends whose side you're on

[@cjpaeropaint]

From what I've seen Steve McQueen was very insecure man.

[@TheOneWhoIsBuiltDifferent]

We don't want James Corden don't give him to us!!!

[@top-notanalysis4942]

Bradius Bradosaurus

[@The_Texorcist]

One of the ones that comes to mind is Volcano and Dante’s Peak.

[@jasontorrens626]

Dances With Wolves, Avatar, Fast & The Furious, & The Last Samurai all have a very similar premise.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Fast & Furious is basically Point Break but with cars instead of surfing.

[@danielled8665]

Another twin films; Ants and A Bugs Life

[@brucewaynefan338]

Mirror Mirror Snow White and the Huntsman

[@tylerblevins500]

what happened to Wiglett? where did Wiglett go?

[@lordnoodle2146]

Summer wars and Digimon movie our war game

[@timschantz3233]

Tombstone vs. Wyatt Earp 7:25

[@navybr0wnie]

Honestly seeing Mcaul pop up to help Kohn would be kinda sick ngl.

[@robxholicfoxyfan8552]

Reminds me of the Digimon Movie which was three unrelated OVA's of Digimon set in different parts of the Digimon Adventure 01 and 02 stories that were awkwardly human centipeded together into an incomprehensible mess alongside Kari as a constant narrator and with the completely different plots being forced together being extra strange when the middle story has way more stakes due to having the bad digimon of the OVA launch a nuke.

[@lordnoodle2146]

I went with Digimon our end game and Summer Wars

[@robxholicfoxyfan8552]

@@lordnoodle2146 Summer Wars sounds familiar.

[@lordnoodle2146]

@@robxholicfoxyfan8552 it is my favourite anime movie same creature of Digimon movie so it is same story

[@Demonslayre]

Probably the most expensive CGI remake of a Disney movie ever. Avatar. Didn't even get to watch the whole film as myself and two friends had never seen it so we rent it. Then they spend the whole film goofing of and talking whole I'm trying to watch a movie, culminating in me getting literally kicked/pushed off the couch we were sitting on.

[@ejgoldlust]

What's Avatar a remake of? I think you might have left some details out, or perhaps you're confused

[@Demonslayre]

@ejgoldlust not a direct remake, no. But here's a summary, tell me what it reminds you of: A group of explorers find an uninhabited area rich with resources. They discover that not only is the area inhabited by a people they cannot communicate with, but that people has an incredibly rare and valuable (for the explorers) resource. The inhabitants refuse to give them the resource, but one explorer befriends and romances one of the native peoples. This relationship is frowned upon by the natives and hopes to be exploited by the explorers. Tensions rise through misunderstandings until they are on the verge of war until the taboo couple puts themselves between both factions, leading to an ambiguous but uneasy peace.

[@Demonslayre]

@@ejgoldlust pocahontas. It's pretty blatantly pocahontas.

[@zerocool0087]

Volcano and Dante's peak

[@0callaghan]

Barb wire is casablanca

[@richardemily1555]

It's bio-pic.

[@TonyOnions666]

GODZILLA!!!

[@2lazy2makeupname]

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