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Facts About Bob Marley's White Father Norval Marley

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Historius Maximus

Historius Maximus

Күн бұрын

A brief timeline of the life of Norval Marley, the enigmatic father of reggae legend Bob Marley.
Norval was born in Clarendon, Jamaica to Albert Thomas Marley and Ellen Broomfield who both originated from Southern England. He had one older brother called Robert.
Despite carrying the title captain, he was not a captain.
It’s rumoured Norval was a plantation overseer, although there is no evidence to support this claim and is most likely sensationalist fiction to paint a white slave master narrative.
During World War I Norval travelled to England where he joined the British Army in August 1916 at Liverpool, enlisting in the Labour Corps, which incidentally was the same regiment my own great grandfather served under.
In 1944 Norval married 18 year old Cedella “Ciddy” Malcolm. He was around 60 at the time
Cedella gave birth to their son Robert Nesta Marley on 6th February 1945. No other children arose from this relationship and the couple separated after a short time due to Norval’s philandering.
Norval was brought up on charges of bigamy after Ciddy filed a complaint
A couple of months later Cpt Norval Marley died on 20th May, 1955 following a bout with pneumonia. Bob Marley was 10 years old at the time of his fathers death. #bobmarley #norvalmarley #facts #myths #timeline #jamaica #history #biography #biographies #shorts

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@historiusmaximus
@historiusmaximus 6 ай бұрын
Before judging people from the past by the standards of people living today, we should at least try to see things from the perspective of the cultural norms of the era in which they lived. Before the introduction of modern medicine, you were lucky to live past your 40s, and the only form of social mobility for women to survive was dependency on men. These kinds of evolutionary pressures meant that marriage and producing offspring at very young ages was the norm in every society across the entire world. If you think 16 was young, you better not pick up a history book, as it wasn't uncommon for girls as young as 12 to legally marry. Even today, in places like Nigeria for example, the age of consent is 11, but you'll hear very little outrage from the cultural relativist liberals and those who like to spew anti-white rhetoric. The fact is, Cedella married Norval one month before her 19th birthday. But even if she was 16 when they first met, it's naive to assume that Cedella was so fragile and feeble-minded that she was somehow "coerced" into marrying Norval almost three years after the relationship began. As gross as it sounds, Cedella had every incentive to pursue Norval, despite the age gap. Judging from historical accounts, she wasn't the only one either.
@bruceowings5307
@bruceowings5307 5 ай бұрын
NOPE , PEOPLE LIVED ALOTT LONGER BACK THEN
@kinsdonn
@kinsdonn 4 ай бұрын
So basically what I’m hearing is, “ I love white people and in order to excuse the actions of this white man I will bring up countries irrelevant to the conversation so that I can deflect from the topic at hand.” I’m also hearing “I know bob marley is super popular but I want to give white people some credit so I’m going to make a video Capitalizing on his WHITE father and even put that his father is white in the title!”
@user-uk4kj5tk8q
@user-uk4kj5tk8q 2 ай бұрын
I been no that Bob Marley made song win he was young. Calling them name after vegetables like tomatoes 🍅 and other names he had a very ​@@kinsdonn
@CoachIreland
@CoachIreland Жыл бұрын
His son has touched more lives than he could have ever imagined.
@1dyrfullymade
@1dyrfullymade 5 ай бұрын
Right and his name means BRIGHT FAME. 😊
@Helensibhat135
@Helensibhat135 4 ай бұрын
Bob was no so of white🤮🤮🤮
@All.Natural.
@All.Natural. 5 ай бұрын
Why I love the song " Head Cornerstone " so much! He walked out on Bob But it was Bob who made their last name famous! Love the movie!
@sharongraham116
@sharongraham116 5 ай бұрын
He looks just like his dad, same face.
@issavibez394
@issavibez394 Ай бұрын
No
@kitto3608
@kitto3608 27 күн бұрын
Thank-God. This is one of the only posts that admits his father was a white Jamaican and not born in the uk. Well done!!!
@mandellawheturangikingikau1202
@mandellawheturangikingikau1202 3 ай бұрын
Wow "@ least something great come out of it..awesome legend..bob marley 😇🤩
@user-uk4kj5tk8q
@user-uk4kj5tk8q 2 ай бұрын
They use his wealth to help build up yes that was a great thing. But stealing money 💰💰💰💰 lots of it just sucks because he 😂still be alive but God always live in us all receive him and Keep Bob Marley alive in you
@AATM.Sports
@AATM.Sports 9 ай бұрын
This fact just blew my mind. I never knew
@lifewk
@lifewk 6 ай бұрын
Not factual at all.
@AATM.Sports
@AATM.Sports 6 ай бұрын
@@lifewk How ?
@historiusmaximus
@historiusmaximus 6 ай бұрын
What's not factual?.... The fact Bob had a white father? The fact that Norval was born in Jamaica? The fact he and Cedella were married in 1944? The fact Bob was named after Norval's older brother Robert? The fact that Norval enlisted to the British army in 1916? The fact that Bob was 10 years old at the time of his father's death? The fact Norval was charged with bigamy in 1955?.... What have I presented that isn't easily verifiable from solid sources? Please enlighten me?
@jigglife6317
@jigglife6317 2 ай бұрын
He still not so called black it don’t even matter 😂 just cause you born somewhere don’t mean the seed belongs there
@grinchlette
@grinchlette Жыл бұрын
His true name was Nesta Robert Marley. That is the name his Father chose for him. When his Mother went to get his passport the clerk convinced her to note it as Robert Nesta on the passport as, in his opinion, Nesta was a girl’s name.
@PatrickFitzgerald88
@PatrickFitzgerald88 6 ай бұрын
Yeah Nesta is a Welsh female name.
@senorita-qh6bm
@senorita-qh6bm 5 ай бұрын
Who cares his dad was 60+ messing with a teenage girl who he THEN cheated on probably with a child like who cares what that colonizer wanted to name him
@mpenrod
@mpenrod 3 ай бұрын
He was 60, cedella was 18..... In an English territory. Let's call it what it was. Dude used to poke on everything, wanted or not.
@inivision57
@inivision57 Жыл бұрын
Never knew he had a white British dad - informative
@itsmecommenting4283
@itsmecommenting4283 6 ай бұрын
A lot of native people have British fathers
@grinchmafia7295
@grinchmafia7295 3 ай бұрын
​@@itsmecommenting4283Native people?
@wayne47able
@wayne47able 20 күн бұрын
Those Black Genes did all the work genetically and musically because I had no idea he was half white until a couple of years ago
@gayleralan
@gayleralan Жыл бұрын
Bob Marley's Mum did an interview about him and din't have a bad thing to say about him
@historiusmaximus
@historiusmaximus Жыл бұрын
Aside from the fact he was a serial philanderer who let her and their son down. She seemed to harbour no malice towards him. In fact, it was mostly pity she felt. She was always very dignified in her commentary whenever his name was mentioned.
@rashelelashley
@rashelelashley 6 ай бұрын
​@@historiusmaximusAnd his famous son ended up the same way!
@Sugaa22
@Sugaa22 6 ай бұрын
What else would you expect from that English side of his family. He had that in his blood from that side.​@rashelelashley
@Sugaa22
@Sugaa22 6 ай бұрын
I would've told him an aggressive thing or two. Disgusting predator
@anuncolonizedmind6296
@anuncolonizedmind6296 6 ай бұрын
Lol so Africans &:black ppl around the world aren't doing that as well? 😂​@@Sugaa22
@sharonscott6244
@sharonscott6244 6 ай бұрын
Norval Marley was sniffing around Cedella from she was about 14. Not sure why a beautiful Goddess would've wanted with this over the hill coloniser and it is documented that she was raped. Never have I heard that she married him and if she did I can assure you at that time it was definitely not for love Jamaica was still an apartheid state then and also please note that Mr Marley never mind him neither and his family did not recognise Bob either. The song, one of my favourites 'Jah Is Mighty' is about the Marley family shunning him.
@ThehiphopfoundationTV
@ThehiphopfoundationTV 6 ай бұрын
Do you have the receipts for the rape? Norval was a terrible and absent father, but Bob was never "shunned". Bob was born in wedlock. It's also factually incorrect that Norval's family didn't recognise Bob. In fact, after they separated, Norval wanted Ciddy to have Bob raised by his brother Robert, who Bob was named after, to give Bob a better education and eventually join the Marley family business. This is all documented in Timothy White's book, "Catch a Fire". Which is the definitive biography on Bob's life. It's easy to vilify Bob's father simply for being a white man. You myth spreading people really need to stop with the bs.
@ThatSuzanneSchmid
@ThatSuzanneSchmid 6 ай бұрын
​@@ThehiphopfoundationTVTim White wrote Catch a Fire
@ThehiphopfoundationTV
@ThehiphopfoundationTV 6 ай бұрын
@@ThatSuzanneSchmid I don't know why I said Chris B. Thanks 👍
@lovetemple3610
@lovetemple3610 5 ай бұрын
how no one question the fact that he slept with an underage....because of white privilege?
@karengoga2592
@karengoga2592 4 ай бұрын
If Bob dad raped hes mum why was Bob grandparents friends with him then Bob grandad was good mate with him do you think they wanna he like that if he raped there.daugther
@eileenreid8413
@eileenreid8413 6 ай бұрын
Im glad bob was born but he took advantage of bob mom
@senorita-qh6bm
@senorita-qh6bm 5 ай бұрын
Yeah dude was a pedo colonizer
@morovvs
@morovvs Жыл бұрын
Underrated 🔥
@michaelormond8511
@michaelormond8511 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your son. If it weren't for you, we wouldn't have ever heard your sons music and understood his message!! May God bless us all... One love, One race under him, the human race.!! our lives matter, His life mattered. Jesus loves you yesterday today and for all of eternity...
@lifewk
@lifewk 6 ай бұрын
You have been lied to. Do some research
@michaelormond8511
@michaelormond8511 6 ай бұрын
@@lifewk what have I been lied to about not that I knew Bob or his father but if he hadn't existed then Bob couldn't or wouldn't have been who he was so not sure what you mean I've been lied too??? What I do know is that his music speaks about truth and love and that can never be wrong so nobody has lied to me about anything and I'm sorry you feel that way!!! May God bless us all...
@kavijackson868
@kavijackson868 Жыл бұрын
So when anyone tells you you aren't Black or Black enough because it's your Mother who is Black and not your Father remind them of Bob Marley!!!
@JahNewgen
@JahNewgen 7 ай бұрын
Amen. God bless
@jkashdamoneyman5870
@jkashdamoneyman5870 7 ай бұрын
Lol well he’s not black, as much as yall don’t want to believe it, according the book of law(bible that Bob Marley and many of us believe in) you are the seed of the father, so if you’re father is black, you’re black, if you father is white, you’re white, simple
@PatrickFitzgerald88
@PatrickFitzgerald88 6 ай бұрын
@@jkashdamoneyman5870 Bob wasn't fully European like me so he's not an Israelite.
@jkashdamoneyman5870
@jkashdamoneyman5870 6 ай бұрын
@@PatrickFitzgerald88lol Israel ain’t and Europe and white Jews most typically if they aren’t American or Canadian, are English, French, or Polish/German, stop it Mr. Ashkenazi Jew, grandsons of Japheth
@anuncolonizedmind6296
@anuncolonizedmind6296 6 ай бұрын
I have 2 black parents & have been told.. I'm not black enough
@qiscRBLX
@qiscRBLX Жыл бұрын
Very informative video 👍🏽
@lifewk
@lifewk 6 ай бұрын
It’s false.
@tribulusfox3816
@tribulusfox3816 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff K! 😁😁👏👏
@tlashai9902
@tlashai9902 6 ай бұрын
Aww he looks just like his dad.
@anuncolonizedmind6296
@anuncolonizedmind6296 6 ай бұрын
A man that didn't love him & didn't raise him.
@bigbeatmanifesto6756
@bigbeatmanifesto6756 Жыл бұрын
Do you know where abouts in southern England the Marley family hailed from?
@historiusmaximus
@historiusmaximus Жыл бұрын
Norval's father, Albert Thomas Marley, was born in Brentwood, Essex. His mother was from Rye in Sussex. They lived in Sussex prior to emigrating to Jamaica.
@errolnicholson5632
@errolnicholson5632 Жыл бұрын
Cedella was 16 years old and Noval Marley 60 years old and they wasn't married at all......
@wharf4398
@wharf4398 Жыл бұрын
Do you know what "bigamy" means? She was 18, not 16.
@ancienttechniques
@ancienttechniques 11 ай бұрын
That sound more like the truth.
@ancienttechniques
@ancienttechniques 11 ай бұрын
That sounds more like t he truth
@EmunahYsrael
@EmunahYsrael 6 ай бұрын
They were married in St. Ann there's a marriage certificate.
@deborahpercy6809
@deborahpercy6809 6 ай бұрын
If they were not married bob would not have his last name back then you had to be married in order to get the last name of the father FACTS
@1dyrfullymade
@1dyrfullymade 5 ай бұрын
Bob Marley lived up to his name. "BRIGHT FAME." ❤
@bigbeatmanifesto6756
@bigbeatmanifesto6756 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@historiusmaximus
@historiusmaximus Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@user-uk4kj5tk8q
@user-uk4kj5tk8q 2 ай бұрын
True yes hid father only came around gor one thing maybe thought Bob Marley wasn't his son. It hits really real hard. Bob called him Tomato 🍅 or referred to him in a song when he was young beating on tables he mentioned his father ad a crop. I guess it meant I will see you tomorrow or whenever you return. His mom yell the story look her up
@tonytone420
@tonytone420 Жыл бұрын
good history Bredda fya bun
@adeelijaz9250
@adeelijaz9250 Жыл бұрын
@maescreativespace444
@maescreativespace444 3 ай бұрын
He looks just like Noval
@zionleach3001
@zionleach3001 7 ай бұрын
I also have a white dad and a black mother. But apparently I look half asian and on the "white-passing" side. Plus my dad apparently looks Mexican.
@wwm8
@wwm8 4 ай бұрын
Dang! So you could say you got the whole gene pool. 😊
@zionleach3001
@zionleach3001 4 ай бұрын
@@wwm8 Yep, sound's about right.
@yonaavraham9594
@yonaavraham9594 6 ай бұрын
He was 60? Bob Marley's mother was 18?
@anuncolonizedmind6296
@anuncolonizedmind6296 6 ай бұрын
She gave birth to Bob, when she was 16
@sharonsimpson6040
@sharonsimpson6040 6 ай бұрын
Wot a load of bullshit
@Sugaa22
@Sugaa22 6 ай бұрын
Noval sounds like a real English creep. Messing around with the minor slaves they were overseeing. The product of the atrocity of slavery. I see why Bob sing those songs. To know all of that can be absolutely disheartening.
@ThehiphopfoundationTV
@ThehiphopfoundationTV 6 ай бұрын
Norval didn't own or oversee a single slave and neither did any of his family. Stop projecting your irrational hatred. If Bob's dad was a black absentee father nobody would bat an eyelid.
@anuncolonizedmind6296
@anuncolonizedmind6296 6 ай бұрын
Right, she was 16 & not 18
@Supermarketqueen
@Supermarketqueen 5 ай бұрын
What a romantic story 🙄
@linettejenkins8600
@linettejenkins8600 6 ай бұрын
Did they marry?
@EmunahYsrael
@EmunahYsrael 6 ай бұрын
Yes they got married I just found the marriage papers and did a video.
@linettejenkins8600
@linettejenkins8600 6 ай бұрын
@@EmunahYsrael what marriage papers?
@EmunahYsrael
@EmunahYsrael 6 ай бұрын
@@linettejenkins8600 I made a video about it. They were married on record.
@linettejenkins8600
@linettejenkins8600 6 ай бұрын
@@EmunahYsrael who got married? I am sure that wasn't Norval and Cedella.
@EmunahYsrael
@EmunahYsrael 6 ай бұрын
@@linettejenkins8600 Sure? Cedella and Norvel married June 1944 I have a pic of the marriage certificate in the video. Check it out.
@deescott8312
@deescott8312 6 ай бұрын
Why you have this foolish annoying music
@lifewk
@lifewk 6 ай бұрын
Their relationship wasn’t that of a consensual one initially and this is misleading. He was not a father to his son and that’s public knowledge even the family affirms that.
@wharf4398
@wharf4398 6 ай бұрын
You're misleading by making things up
@lifewk
@lifewk 6 ай бұрын
@@wharf4398 right because his direct descendants aren’t more reputable than a random content creator looking to capitalize off the movie dropping. Hit me with something logical at least
@wharf4398
@wharf4398 6 ай бұрын
@@lifewk firstly, this video was created long before any movie was publicly known about, so that's your first logical fallacy dismissed. Second, you don't have a single solitary piece of evidence to support your claim because if you did you would have presented it already. It's abundantly clear that you have an irrational hatred of Bob's father simply for being white.
@karengoga2592
@karengoga2592 4 ай бұрын
Bobs grandparents was good mates with Bob dad if he was so bad why let him.marry there daugther ?
@user-wu9xg8qb1x
@user-wu9xg8qb1x 11 ай бұрын
I dissent know norval was born in Jamaica.
@EmunahYsrael
@EmunahYsrael 6 ай бұрын
Yes he was born in Clarendon.
@dsr364
@dsr364 8 ай бұрын
60yearsolderthrnher
@dsr364
@dsr364 8 ай бұрын
Cilporisa5white5hing
@theshamanarchist5441
@theshamanarchist5441 Жыл бұрын
I'll have to show this to Winston the Rasta, to fook with his head. Lol
@senorita-qh6bm
@senorita-qh6bm 5 ай бұрын
60+ and STILL cheating on a then 18 year old teenager 😭 I can’t
@cherriepie
@cherriepie 5 ай бұрын
Ikr! He thought he was Top G
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