Fade To BLACK!...5.56 Hornady Black HD SBR Ammo. Short Barrel AR-15 Test!

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Tools&Targets

Tools&Targets

Күн бұрын

Testing some 5.56 Hornady Black SBR ammo from carbine and short barrel lengths. Is it better than "standard" ammo? Heavy clothing ballistic gel test using a Palmetto State Armory AR-15.
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@Mpeterson1286
@Mpeterson1286 Жыл бұрын
The shorter barrels also show what bullets do further down range at lower velocities. Super cool.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really like seeing the velocity drop at distances on the same screen.😎👊
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely appreciate your consistency and willingness to test anything you can find TnT!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Hope you have a great Father's Day weekend!
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Thank you, you too!
@semichiganandy2127
@semichiganandy2127 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again. You're proving why most .223/5.56 rounds are excellent for home defense.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yessir. I think a lot of folks feel like it's "too much." I think it's just right.😎👊
@Mr_New_Vegas_685
@Mr_New_Vegas_685 Жыл бұрын
These have been my home defense round for years. Glad to see how they did.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
They would definitely end the problem.😎👊
@msquared9605
@msquared9605 2 ай бұрын
I love that I can search any particular load that I’m interested in, and a video of yours is always in at least the first 5 results
@RL-RL
@RL-RL Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Very smart with the 10.5" pistol 😉. This really made my day, and I hope to see another test tomorrow? Both barrel lengths did good @ 30 yards, and that's very good that the Doppler caught as much data as it did.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Жыл бұрын
Happy Father's day wkend
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@randlerichardson5826
@randlerichardson5826 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@rico300zx
@rico300zx Жыл бұрын
Happy Father’s Day!!!!
@MichaelMiller-op5sx
@MichaelMiller-op5sx Жыл бұрын
This is what i use in home defense in my ar15 16 inch barrel and my ar pistol 7.5 barrel glad to see you test it.
@angeldesigns1385
@angeldesigns1385 Ай бұрын
I’ve had great results with this ammo from my 10.3 but i built a 7.5 that I haven’t even fired yet. How have the results been from your 7.5 as far as cycling? have you had any issues with failure to feed etc etc? I was actually planning on getting to the range tomorrow considering I’ve already had it since before the wheel was invented..plus what size buffer are you running? I went ahead and just set mine up with an H3 to start with.
@MichaelMiller-op5sx
@MichaelMiller-op5sx Ай бұрын
@@angeldesigns1385 mine cycles everything fine mine is all stock setup. It's a radical brand.
@aliceakosota797
@aliceakosota797 Ай бұрын
Curious why not run .300 blackout at that length I too have a short barrel ar but it feels like losing too much ballistics
@Plutooo4L
@Plutooo4L 4 күн бұрын
@@aliceakosota797I’m stuck between choosing 556 or 300bo in a 7.5in barrel or 8.5in barrel. Ik 300bo will hit like a 762 out of a short barrel but still undecided
@aliceakosota797
@aliceakosota797 3 күн бұрын
@@Plutooo4L late reply I'd go .300 blackout now I wish I made that decision then, I know this would be most effective tool in cqb which is how most self defense caes happen
@MrZachxd
@MrZachxd Жыл бұрын
Dude, I know I'm like a broken record, but I love your content, and you're by far my favorite KZbinr.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you, brother!😎👊
@texasrex2222
@texasrex2222 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that the Hornady Black ammo was a series of different loadings. I just bought some of the Black 75gr BTHP, didn't realize they also came with their interlock projectiles! As for the optic, I just recently bought one of the newer 3x PrimaryArms microprisms and absolutely love it. My girlfriend has an astigmatism, so she normally has trouble with most red dot or magnified illuminated optics, but has no problems at all with the prism.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I really should pick one up to try.
@bryantitus6634
@bryantitus6634 Жыл бұрын
That load may very well be one of the better loads for guys who hunt whitetails and hogs with one. Especially from an 18" or a 20" barrel, but the 16" seemed to do just fine as well. Expansion looks like it would still happen reliably even a bit below the impact velocity from your 10.5" tube. Impact velocity from the 16" barrel wood be similar to your 10.5" barrels 28yd velo at just over 100yds. If you stretched it to an 18-20" barrel yoy might gain another 50 yards of reliable expansion and penetration.
@nikos6220
@nikos6220 Жыл бұрын
Great idea to check the softpoints again out of the shorty. My bet is on the Gold Dot vs. that Black stuff. If you have a 300 BLK that would be also a sweet comparison to the short 5.56. The 150 grain Speer GD 300 BLK would probably let the 5.56s shit their pants in the gel 😂
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@scarifrougeone7225
@scarifrougeone7225 Жыл бұрын
5.56mm / .223 great caliber for all around testing and results. The Black ammo is definitely good ammo. I prefer the longer barrels but, do not have a problem with either barrel lengths all good thanks for sharing and be safe. Good to go here Tools buddy. ⭐️⭐️🇺🇸⭐️⭐️
@mesauer
@mesauer Жыл бұрын
I bought 6.5 Grendel Hornady Black ammo. It was cheapest I could find at the time. Wasn’t disappointed at all. Great accuracy! Very good inexpensive ammo!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@stevendoe1555
@stevendoe1555 Жыл бұрын
I know the feeling it the cheapest I could find as well my 10.5 AR pistol in 6.5 Grendel loves em
@chrism2042
@chrism2042 Жыл бұрын
Awesome performance test. Up to current testing of 8 heavier 223 and 5.56 bullets for accuracy testing with my 18" Daniel Defense MK12, the Hornady Black 223 75 gr BTHP has been the most accurate. Shooting consistent
@steelpunisher6944
@steelpunisher6944 Жыл бұрын
Very good test again! They would definitely leave a mark lol. I am perfectly comfortable with that penetration. I know you have a lot of testing planned but I think a revisit with the short barrel on some would be great. Great job as always 👍🇺🇸
@william16845
@william16845 Ай бұрын
A lot of these factory rounds you test I create hand loads for.these particular ones I had to purchase factory second projectiles because Hornady doesn't sell these as projectiles only..you doing the science on the factory load gives me a idea of what I'm trying to either mimic or improve upon.with out you spending the money and doing the work I wouldn't know if I was improving on the factory minor not..so I really appreciate all you do brother..I wish I could shoot my creations with you to show you how awesome hand loading 556 can be.
@ericbergfield6451
@ericbergfield6451 Жыл бұрын
I'm eagerly awaiting your test on AAC's Sabre Blade Black Tip in 62gr Brian ...As I just bought the 75gr variant & am waiting for it to arrive.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping this coming week isn't a 100% rained out mess.😣
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 Жыл бұрын
👍👍Thanks for the test Tools, would love to see some of those soft points out of the shorter barrel. I really appreciate all the test.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@jimhovater8755
@jimhovater8755 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. Each of our vehicle's GHB includes an AR pistol. One has a 7.5-inch barrel. It's mags are loaded with 55gr. V-Max rounds. The other has a 10.5-inch barrel. Its mags are loaded with the Hornaday BLACK SBR round.
@12monkey57
@12monkey57 Жыл бұрын
Love to see some of the AAC stuff tested, or 308 self defense calibers!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Got some of both on hand and on the list.😎👊
@petemidwest1071
@petemidwest1071 Жыл бұрын
Yep! That’s gonna leave a mark!🤣 Imma huge fan of 16” plus...dig the hydrostatic shock! Thanks brother! Lol...neighbors gotta love ya!😂
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊 Sounds like a war zone out here sometimes.💥🔥💥
@dangeles95
@dangeles95 21 күн бұрын
That 10.5” expansion wasn’t as much but we also have to remember it was BACKWARDS in the gel. That’s still pretty nasty.
@3gunshooter60
@3gunshooter60 Жыл бұрын
I'm liken the 5.56/.223 test Tools. I'm pretty interested in that 10.5" performance. I'd love to see a few standard soft point and maybe some Amax bullets. Love what you do. Stay safe and God bless America. Happy Father's day sir. 11 months later now. If you have, i missed them, but id like to see the various reasonably priced soft points in the jelly test. I've found some PMC bronze soft points at a pretty good price. If you can find those, id like to see them tested. Thanks Tools
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Happy Father's Day!
@wymonwatson1309
@wymonwatson1309 Жыл бұрын
Try a 55gr sp from the short barrel, I think the reduced speed will result in deeper penetration and better expansion. I know the traditional thinking is heavier from a short barrel but I think the results will speak for themselves.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@ronaldbarnes8302
@ronaldbarnes8302 Жыл бұрын
Very happy with the performance especially out of the 10.5. The only Hornady I’ve tried is the Frontier 55 sp. Enjoying the 223/556 tests, thanks for sharing Tools!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Have a Happy Father's Day!
@ronaldbarnes8302
@ronaldbarnes8302 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Thanks Tools! Likewise to you.
@SomebodysNephew
@SomebodysNephew Жыл бұрын
Gonna be taking the mini 14 down to the range here in the next couple days...gonna be fun. Great video. Those rounds are brutal.
@chrislang5659
@chrislang5659 Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy your Mini14 as much as I do mine!❤
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice! Always think about getting one of those.
@SomebodysNephew
@SomebodysNephew Жыл бұрын
Other than needing a new battery for the optic I don't think I brought with...lol gonna be great. I'll probably just steal the identical battery out of one of my computers
@SomebodysNephew
@SomebodysNephew Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Got one of the OD Green polymer bodied ones with stainless barrel, trigger, and charging handle. It's fun. Barrel got jammed up on it once but once you get them running right they're well machined tools. I'd have to look to know exact model I can't remember off the top of my head.
@danielrodriguez5463
@danielrodriguez5463 Жыл бұрын
Back in black! Hornady interlock round in 60 grains is their famous whitetail line.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Ahh, I knew I had seen something with Interlock before.😎👊
@bobborlog1677
@bobborlog1677 Жыл бұрын
Soft points are impressive i stacked a pile of the old brown bear 62gr soft point years ago its a great defense/hunting round
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice. Hard to go wrong with em.😎👊
@quintonmcclellan3279
@quintonmcclellan3279 7 ай бұрын
You're the man. You're rhe only one doing these reviews. Love your content man
@armorist6570
@armorist6570 Жыл бұрын
Like you said, a $10 box of soft points would do the job too, but man i love the way both of them expanded respective to each barrel length. Idk what it is, but it just seems like those are very well engineered projectiles. Imagine if they used those in a full power load and you shot it out of a 20inch barrel? I mean that would be MEAN bastard of a round. Very cool
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I'll have to send em out of a 20" to see what they do.😎👊
@ElainesDomain
@ElainesDomain Жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of PSA. Never a problem with mine. EDIT I am using your link for Amazon. I avoid that company when I can so not as much help as other people. Good video. Again.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Same here. All of my PSA stuff has been great. Actually just picked up something new from them a couple days ago that I'm really looking forward to doing a video on. Appreciate you using the link. I try to avoid it, but it's just too easy to find everything and get it fast.😆
@homersaypian3798
@homersaypian3798 Жыл бұрын
Defiantly test the soft points. I like the frontier 62gr. psp. Also would be cool to see a shorty shootout 5.56 vs 300 blackout. Thanks for the video.
@dunkindan4629
@dunkindan4629 7 ай бұрын
It’s funny how big 556 looks on camera and pictures vs in person lol
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it is
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 Жыл бұрын
Nice test. You said with the magnifier the dot looks like a big smear, for anyone looking for a prism optic, MidwayUSA has the 1x Vortex Spitfire on sale for $149 out the door. Amazing deal, saves about $100. I bought one this morning. I've seen videos of people using a magnifier with the Spitfire even though I thought prisms didn't work with magnifiers, but what do I know.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Probably should have gotten prisms instead of the red dots I have on a few guns.
@Wildwestwrangler
@Wildwestwrangler 2 ай бұрын
Don't feel bad. I have an astigmatism as well, and red dot suck for me.​@@ToolsandTargets
@ianharper1189
@ianharper1189 Жыл бұрын
these 5.56/223 tests are great. thank you
@roosterfish3248
@roosterfish3248 8 ай бұрын
I found some of the projectiles for sale as factory seconds. I loaded them to 2700 fps with cfe 223 from an 18 inch barrel. They are very accurate from a 1 in 9 twist, and do a better job on hogs than any other bullet I have tried.
@saltymofo5870
@saltymofo5870 Жыл бұрын
You know your audience very well, I was just getting ready to say your brace fell off and I think I see it over behind the tree!🤣😂🍻
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@yuvgotubekidding
@yuvgotubekidding Жыл бұрын
Nice red white and blue color filled lower and love the AR14 Angry Joe lower too🤣 Unfortunately our ‘Connecticut others’ as they’re referred to here were banned recently. Brandon was here yesterday to celebrate the victory. God save the queen. Feel better 👊🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Leader of the free world.🤣🤣🤣
@Emily_M81
@Emily_M81 6 ай бұрын
I literally just watched a video showing over 100fps more just going from 10.3 to 11.5" lol so I'm definitely thinking you're right on the money there. Thanks for sharing!
@c.r.chandler5905
@c.r.chandler5905 Жыл бұрын
Tools, I am so glad you did this test. I have cases of this ammo when I owned a couple of AR pistols but financial problems led me to having to sell them. I kept the ammo and I'm planning on getting a 16inch this week and I was curious as to how the ammo would do. You more than cleared up my concerns. This round is just devastating out of the 16 inch.
@LuckyDog350X
@LuckyDog350X Жыл бұрын
Glad to see that it opened up so well in the 16" as that is what I would be using in most situations. Have a good one brother see you on the next one.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@timothyulrich395
@timothyulrich395 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! ... starting to lean back into the 223 over a 300blk shorty...
@gadsdenjim8785
@gadsdenjim8785 Жыл бұрын
75 Grain Gold-Dot would be a good apples to apples test against that 75 Grain HD Interlock SBR. Side by side out of the short barrel.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@Whitefeather83
@Whitefeather83 Жыл бұрын
great idea on testing the sp in the 10.5, can't wait ti see the results. 👍 the bullet construction of the interlock bullet will be better than the traditional sp I would think.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@trustnot9
@trustnot9 Жыл бұрын
Great video, awesome test. Good job as always.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!😎👊
@trustnot9
@trustnot9 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets your welcome.👍👍👍
@johnnyv.223
@johnnyv.223 Жыл бұрын
You're right on the money with these defensive round tests, Tools! It's good that you show the difference between the barrel lengths for us. Could you tell us where you got your shirt? It's exactly what we need right now! Thanks for this one, Sir!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Got it at RK.😎👊
@timothyspory6475
@timothyspory6475 2 ай бұрын
Hornady says they made these to give lower flash from a short barrel. Maybe do a low light test to show the difference between a regular 5.56 round and a 75gr interlock?
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the good demo & results. No complaints. Success on expansion. Happy Father's Day all you dads.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Same to you!😎👊
@jeffpittman8725
@jeffpittman8725 Жыл бұрын
Great review. I agree on your choice. No reason to bring on unintended complications!
@billdye3530
@billdye3530 Жыл бұрын
Out of the 16in barrel the Black made the jelly jump as much as the Gold Dot. I agree for the price soft points will do the job for less money. I got caliper out & checked 2 of 223 rounds vs 4 of5.56 for differences & not really any. The drop in fps between muzzle & 100yds on a couple of boxes matches your Lab Radar at apx. 200fps drop. Great info coming from the Lab. 🌟 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Love the info it gives ya.😎
@billdye3530
@billdye3530 Жыл бұрын
​@@ToolsandTargetsBy the way I ordered a brace to be sent to your PO Box just to see if it gets tracked to you or back to me. 😂😂😂 Just kidding ATF. Lmao. I agree with the viewpoint on the brace. Don't pour gas on yourself before you light a match. 🔥
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
@@billdye3530 Something told me to keep driving by the Post Office earlier when I saw all the black Tahoes in the parking lot.😆😆
@billdye3530
@billdye3530 Жыл бұрын
​You think they're searching for the Aliens that originally landed in Vegas but found out it was more fun in Martinsville? 👽 👽🎉 🚀
@HeyVirgne
@HeyVirgne Жыл бұрын
This content def deserves to be over 100k subscribers let alone 48k. Keep it up!
@KassiCashwell
@KassiCashwell Жыл бұрын
You're in my neck of the woods i learned recently to my great surprise as i was shopping for ammo at my local rural king. Thank you for being a good source of information and content.i have based several choices,well confirmed,for Carry ammo on your videos thanks!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice! Appreciate ya!😎👊
@xforce708
@xforce708 Жыл бұрын
I like how the one from the 16” barrel has the big wound channel towards the back of the gel. Exit wound I’d expect would be awesome. If one chose for deer or such.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
💥🦌💥
@jimhovater8755
@jimhovater8755 8 ай бұрын
I've supplemented my small stash of Hornady BLACK SBR with Frontier 68gr BTMHP.
@Black_0pCar0lina
@Black_0pCar0lina Жыл бұрын
I like the slower round so they can flip and tumble before exiting.
@jamesmikesell5458
@jamesmikesell5458 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive I've had bad luck with Hornaday bullets coming apart . Happy father's day
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Happy Father's Day!
@robertharing7031
@robertharing7031 Жыл бұрын
I have a couple boxes I got at the LGS after seeing the damage I’m sure glad you made this video thanks I’ve enjoyed the latest couple 223-5.66
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya, brother.😎👊
@keithbrandson6293
@keithbrandson6293 9 ай бұрын
Thanks TnT.. I think most modern 5.56|.223 ammo would be fine for home defense; with the *possible* exception of the 855. The best in my book is the bonded soft point like this Hornady, the Gold Dots, and the Federal TBBC. Barrier blindness is important. Whether they are worth twice as much as standard rounds is another (personal-budget) question.
@jeremyfrix522
@jeremyfrix522 Жыл бұрын
Actually this looks like a very good 16 inch ar 556 round i have a real hard time getting that kind of ammo where i am thank you for the test 👍🏻👍🏻
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@rogerray2545
@rogerray2545 Жыл бұрын
Brother I'm love The rifle test Keep them coming I'll keep watching
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Got some more I wanna do this coming week but looks like I might need a boat with all the rain.😆
@Adam-nv9zo
@Adam-nv9zo Жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting results. Pretty good with the 16-inch barrel, at least.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@robertseafield5810
@robertseafield5810 Жыл бұрын
Great info. I like the Hornady 75 gr 22 cal bullets. Very accurate. Most of the soft point 22 cal bullets are made for varmints. There are some 22 cal made for deer.
@paulburnside6312
@paulburnside6312 Жыл бұрын
“Fade to Black” I knew you were cool, but this Metallica reference made you Rockin Cool 😊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
💥😎👊💥
@KD-lb9bg
@KD-lb9bg Жыл бұрын
💯% on target 🎯 with your brace commentary. Thanks for another fine round of Jelly Time testing.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@terrell48
@terrell48 Жыл бұрын
It probably would be good to test regular soft points in the shorter barrel, I’m curious
@timjohnson8390
@timjohnson8390 Жыл бұрын
Man I'm not so sure about how well this ammo works.. I'm not sure if it's the same but I've got some 10mm ammo that pushes damn near the same energy foot pounds. Thanks for the info. Happy Father's Day yall!!
@rogerray2545
@rogerray2545 Жыл бұрын
Oh and I noticed the wind wouldn't blowing and the table didn't shake
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
There was a hurricane during the video, but I edited it out!😆
@wildabeast_szwarc
@wildabeast_szwarc 2 ай бұрын
I know I'm late to this party, but I'm pretty sure the main difference in this being an "SBR" load is that the powder is designed to not throw a huge fireball. 🤷🏽‍♂
@jonn8163
@jonn8163 Жыл бұрын
I’m exited to see the result!! Have these loaded in my mags for self defense in my 11.5” bcm
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@truthhurts7836
@truthhurts7836 Жыл бұрын
Amen to that tools you tell them. I'm not leaving mine on at the range, and I'm in Kentucky where we supposedly don't have to comply. Why chance it? As always, appreciate all the videos and keep them coming 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I don't trust any of em.
@hoffpbass
@hoffpbass Жыл бұрын
I would be your are correct. A generic PSP from the 10.5" will out expand that round. Will be interesting to see. But Hornady really puts in time to engineer and test their projectiles and ammo-lots. So, I'll give it a reliability factor that maybe others can't.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@joejohnson4183
@joejohnson4183 Жыл бұрын
To be on the safe side I would remove that buffer tube and replace it with a Pistol buffer tube . If you remember in ATF's earlier letter concerning what is an SBR that specially showed a Pistol buffer tube as being legal , as it always was but the buffer tubes with adjustment or attachment points were not . But now they are saying you must destroy or alter the brace so it cannot be reattached even though the Director said you only have to remove it from the firearm . ATF's vague wording will mean that it is up to the agents interpretation of whether it is readily accessible or readily convertible . Take your brace and bury it in the woods not on your property as plastic won't rust .
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yeah, not concerned about any of that. I'm just not gonna give them video evidence.
@gadsdenjim8785
@gadsdenjim8785 Жыл бұрын
Short short memories…. Only like 3 models of braces go on the standard carbine tube all of which came out post 2017 the other 10+ are designed to go on that “pistol” tube you speak of. Everyone seems to have forgotten. The rouge banana republic will screw whom ever they chose for whatever they make up. If they can order parts (as a federal agency) that aren’t really available in the wild, then take unlimited resources to fabricate a sleeve and remanufacture a de-milled RPG to convict someone. Why can’t or won’t they change whatever they want. Or drill out your 13.7” or 14.5” pin & weld, spin the muzzle device off and convict you. You all need to wake up to the reality of what you are dealing with.
@joejohnson4183
@joejohnson4183 Жыл бұрын
@@gadsdenjim8785 Then you must remember before the pistol brace was a thing that AR's were sold as a HANDGUN and they all came with a smooth buffer tube and ATF ruled that having a Rifle ( their wording not mine ) buffer tube on it and having an AR stock that could go onto it was considered readily assembly and readily convertible to an SBR . Remember that you could not buy an upper with a barrel length of less than 16" unless the barrel was pinned and welded with an extended flash hider or brake or a Remington 14 " 870 shotgun barrel without submitting a copy of your NFA tax stamp . That all changed when the pistol brace firearms came out , but that can all change back . The Mossberg shockwave and the Remington TAC 14 and their likes will be the next target of ATF to rule on . And by the way , ATF does not make a law but the Att. Gen. can and has been given the authority by Congress , I repeat by Congress , to make amendments to the NFA & GCA and an amendment is considered a law . That is how Donald Trump had the ATF rule on bump stocks and his Att. Gen. signed it to be an amendment to the NFA thus making bump stocks illegal . And this was the exact same procedure used for the pistol braces . It is done under what is called " administrative law " . Now Congress can take away the authority of rule making from all these Federal agencies but I don't see them doing so because then they would have to do some work passing laws and they are lazy and are more concerned with their parties agendas and fund raising .
@Bob-lq9ys
@Bob-lq9ys Жыл бұрын
Great test, sounds like more 223/556 test coming up LOL , Thank you for sharing all the test you do
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@terrell48
@terrell48 Жыл бұрын
If you get penetration and bullet performance the specialized ammo probably not necessary unless at longer distances gives better results
@ctsnider88
@ctsnider88 Жыл бұрын
Another example of a quality test.
@af7119
@af7119 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite channel on youtube. So glad I found you!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!😎👊
@raybo34
@raybo34 Жыл бұрын
Nice test. I'd like to see those soft points out of a 10.5". I'd go with the soft points based on price.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@richardturk7162
@richardturk7162 Жыл бұрын
Like I said. LOL. Finally an ammo you liked and I am glad to see that. I have run that ammo in my 11.5 SBR and it did perform well. Cost is a big factor of course. Is it worth the cost? Not really.
@DisgustedGenXr
@DisgustedGenXr Жыл бұрын
My .224 sp handloads usually hang around 2350fps 16”. ACC-2200 62gn M-855
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 Жыл бұрын
Out of the longer barrel this load might make a decent med deer load out to 100 yds. The expanded bullets look very good in the longer barrel. Out of the short barrel the velocity is nearly identical to an AK pistol in 7.62X39mm with a 10-12'' barrel but the projectile is 75gr vs 123gr. How about a comparison of the 2 in pistols?
@caleb6988
@caleb6988 Жыл бұрын
Brother tools your the number one freedom seed testing channel on KZbin. This was an awesome testing, thank you brother tools.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Hope you have a great weekend!😎👊
@caleb6988
@caleb6988 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets thank you brother and hope you have a great father's day tomorrow
@joemartin4040
@joemartin4040 Жыл бұрын
Another test I thoroughly enjoyed. Happy Father's day to you.💪🇺🇲
@johnmikel5934
@johnmikel5934 Жыл бұрын
SP .223 are a reasonable defense round. It would be great to see the 10” shootin' SP. Thx man, great job!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@DerWaidmann_
@DerWaidmann_ Жыл бұрын
I usually find that loads advertised as "Short Barrel" variations are gimmicks and actually don't perform well, such as the Gold Dot 124 9mm short barrel loads. In my opinion, defensive ammunition is already made with shorter barrels in mind as it is and perform perfectly. So in my opinion the "short barrel" designations are just looking for solutions to a problem that doesn't exist.
@kimness7796
@kimness7796 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! Yes, sounds like a straight buffer tube will keep them happy. How about a "cheap 55 gr sp" test in the 10.5"? Notice how four 556s fill up a jell block??? HUMMMMM.....
@CM-nq3so
@CM-nq3so Жыл бұрын
That actually looks like a decent hunting load for 5.56.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
No crunchy lead bites to worry about.😎👍
@chretired
@chretired Жыл бұрын
Kudos to your opinion on the brace. Just wait till this fiasco gets settled and then you can put a brace on that sweet little rig. I'm with you on the performance. They claimed it's calibrated for a short barrel. Will 10.5 is pretty standard for an AR pistol, so I wanted to see better expansion. I doubt 1 more inch would really change the outcome. Overall a great test today Tools. Have a great Fathers Day. Be vigilant and always be safe my friend.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate ya. Happy Father's Day.😎👊
@147CombatMedic
@147CombatMedic Жыл бұрын
Would love to see how some soft points perform out of the 10.5 inch. 👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
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@Nono-rh4lr
@Nono-rh4lr Жыл бұрын
Hornady Black 5x56 75gr SDHBR 10.5” barrel went to 18.25” 16” barrel went to 21”
@ChristianConstitutionalist3192
@ChristianConstitutionalist3192 Жыл бұрын
I Have A PSA Upper On A Windham Lower. I Have Not Had A Problem With My PSA Upper Or Windham Lower So Far. My PSA/Windham AR-15 Is Very Accurate. The Recoil On My PSA/Windham AR-15 Is So Light That A 2 Year Old Could Comfortably Shoot It. The Upper That Originally Came With My AR-15 Was A 16 Inch 1/9 Twist Carbine Length Gas System. My Current Upper (PSA Upper) Is A 16 Inch 1/7 Twist Mid Length Gas System Freedom Upper With An Mlok Handguard And An Odin Works Adjustable Gas Block. The Recoil On My AR-15 With The Original Upper (Windham Upper) Was Very Noticable.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@MrSumGuns
@MrSumGuns Жыл бұрын
I love your Tshirt. It's hilarious but true. Thanks for the great video as always! Happy Father's day to everyone!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. You too!😎👊
@cericson3426
@cericson3426 Жыл бұрын
I have some Hornady black in 7.62x39 with the 123gr SST bullet, awesome round and very accurate out of my AR.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
That reminds me one of the pawn shops here has a lot of that SST 7.62x39. I need to grab a couple boxes.😎👍
@cericson3426
@cericson3426 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Get it!
@jmichaelcarbonniere9549
@jmichaelcarbonniere9549 Жыл бұрын
Another relevant test, Brian! I like the performance out of the 16" but personally, I have little use for the short barreled rifles. I like my 16" and I think it's quite handy, even in the house. If I really feel I need a short barreled firearm in the house, I'll take my 10mm pistol! The ammo did well, although I like the deeper penetration better. I like to see 2 holes in whatever I need to shoot and I'm more than willing to sacrifice a bit of energy doing so. I may have to check around for some of this ammo, it's good to see the jacket and core not separating. Seems to be pretty decent stuff! Cheers, jc
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Definitely looks like it could handle some more heat behind it.😎👊
@jmichaelcarbonniere9549
@jmichaelcarbonniere9549 Жыл бұрын
Damn son, do you ever sleep? Heh heh heh! Yeah, if they sell the bullets as components, I'll have ti check. Personally, I was the Nosler 60 gr. Partitions. A couple hundred would suite me just fine! Alas, they are like Speer 10mm Gold Dots... unobtainium!
@thomashammett6851
@thomashammett6851 Жыл бұрын
You are doing a good job. Good tests, presented quite well and a fun overall review video. Keep up the great work my friend. Good luck in growing to 100K plus. Best wishes.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!😎👊
@pewpewTN
@pewpewTN Жыл бұрын
Hey Tools, if you still have your FN P90, you need to check out this low profile mount I just got. It makes the cheek weld so much more natural. P90 is about my favorite thing to shoot now that I got the optic sorted.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Funny you mention that, I was actually looking at the OG style ring sights for it the other day but looks like they come from the Uk and are pretty pricey. I never planned on keeping the high rail on it but just haven't made it a high priority. The ammo is still just too expensive for me to use it as a plinking kinda gun.😆
@nikos6220
@nikos6220 Жыл бұрын
Since you are going down the .223 rabbit hole with a TBM, the one I would love to see is the Hornady ELD-Match 73 grain.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
I might actually have some of those.
@nikos6220
@nikos6220 Жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets awesome. If all the hunters using it aren‘t crazy, this might be a capable SD round
@hittpink
@hittpink Жыл бұрын
Please compare the SBR at 10.5” & with “normal” 50 grain soft point!
@geneotrexler8246
@geneotrexler8246 9 ай бұрын
Good and informative video 👍 I’m seeing this now at academy for $1.25 pr or $24.99 a box.
@arrobrewer2730
@arrobrewer2730 Жыл бұрын
I sopport yout decision on the brace.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
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