Fake 30 TB Walmart SSD Scam! - Krazy Ken’s Tech Talk

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@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Hey! Check out part 1 first! kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYrVZ3aXgNinkNk (or after, if that's how you roll) Also, special thanks to Mike Cobb from DriveSavers, Inc. for helping with this episode! And extra thanks to all the volunteers who helped with the script. I appreciate you all. 🙏
@wulzyfan59
@wulzyfan59 Жыл бұрын
ok
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ Жыл бұрын
don't pin comments bro
@brandgrandreal
@brandgrandreal Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's possible "and worth it" to reprogram these drives to have them say it's real storage size.
@johnnycha
@johnnycha Жыл бұрын
Thank you, it’s a shame that the first fake SSD from the first video didn’t follow up on the second video…
@TBaker-xu5is
@TBaker-xu5is Жыл бұрын
Just to give you an update... I checked the Walmart website and discovered a couple of things. 1) The one that you showed is out of stock - whether they were pulled or not, I don't know. However the company shown on the website has none of the SSDs available - in any size. 2) there is another company selling 60TB SSDs for about the same price. Conclusion: Be wary of these drives and check with a reputable seller for comparison and don't jump at the item because of the low price. Also stick with a recognized brand to be surer about your purchase. Granted these are not absolute, but will help you to avoid these scams.
@AMD7027
@AMD7027 Жыл бұрын
Talk about this "AGAIN"...people need to understand realistic prices and Walmart needs to vet the vendors and how they get on their platform.
@CinnaBonBun69420
@CinnaBonBun69420 Жыл бұрын
Walmart doesn't really care tbh. As long as they make a little money, then they'll let anyone sell on their site
@fennecfoxfanatic
@fennecfoxfanatic Жыл бұрын
Money > reputation. I guess they think most people won't notice. Walmart can just shift the blame to the 3rd party vendor if anyone complains.
@scrappy93
@scrappy93 Жыл бұрын
Well, you can report them or you yourself can check the seller reviews. You can easily tell the fake reviews. Same with Amazon. You don't buy from a low rated ebay, mercari, letgo, or scammy marketplace seller. So buyers kinda do it to themselves. Even the price is a dead giveaway.
@johnnycha
@johnnycha Жыл бұрын
12:18 And this is why you don’t buy from off-brand products…
@Primordial_Radiance
@Primordial_Radiance Жыл бұрын
They do vet them. This is how they find out about them and how they get kicked off the site.
@RaduTek
@RaduTek Жыл бұрын
That SD card is most likely a rejected card from a legit manufacturer like SanDisk or Samsung. These cards failed the QC tests at the factory and somehow got smuggled out of the factory for them to be used in shady products such as these. I wouldn't trust it with any sensible data even if it performs fine for the moment.
@stephaniethebatter7975
@stephaniethebatter7975 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I feel like Krazy Ken needs to mention this. I'm pretty sure some people would just buy these scam products and either extract the SD card or fix up the controller so it no longer lies about storage capacity. Atomic Shrimp mentioned something similar to this in one of his videos, but you'll probably have to find it and I'm afraid to link it here as it may get autodeleted...
@munkycoolgaming
@munkycoolgaming Жыл бұрын
@@stephaniethebatter7975 I’m not sure why someone would knowingly buy a fake ssd just to take a microsd card out of it. I just checked Best Buy’s website and right now I can buy a Samsung 128 gb microsd card for just $20.
@r.Ry4N.05
@r.Ry4N.05 Жыл бұрын
The card being unlabeled should be a clear sign.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- Жыл бұрын
@@stephaniethebatter7975 Anyone doing this intentionally would only do it out of a curiously and have enough tech knowledge to know some random SD card in a scam product isn't going to be reliable. Someone who apparently doesn't even know what SD cards cost. Even as a USB-C adapter, that controller makes it worthless. That said, I've had a lot of questionable SD cards over the years and they're typically fine for non-critical use where it's only occasionally writing small files and not in a constant read/write cycle. They die very fast if in something like a raspberry pi or security camera. You do have to be careful leaving them unplugged for long periods of time or it may corrupt data faster than usual but that's something to keep in mind with all SSDs. Anyone leaving even quality SATA drives or thumbsticks in a drawer as a backup will likely be very upset in the future when they actual try opening all their files.
@stephaniethebatter7975
@stephaniethebatter7975 Жыл бұрын
@@JJFX- Well, obviously people are doing this if someone like Atomic Shrimp is having to answer questions that are basically "Well, you could still use the SD card/USB/fake storage device, right?"
@kerethmakura4502
@kerethmakura4502 Жыл бұрын
It's like being offered a new Ferrari for $100, you've got to realise that something is screwy.
@rayharvey1330
@rayharvey1330 Жыл бұрын
WALMART, AMAZON etc...need to hire a bunch of dudes like you to test this kinda crap before they allow it on their websites/store.
@ScottyKirk1
@ScottyKirk1 10 ай бұрын
They'd be losing money due to all of the suckers who have been duped... You can't even trust az reviews anymore!
@justingurski5155
@justingurski5155 2 ай бұрын
Why would they, it cost less to continue what they are doing. Amazon is too big for anyone to care about fake products, they will continue to pump out bulk at the lowest cost.
@cobaltretrotech
@cobaltretrotech Жыл бұрын
I once got an SSD from WalMart in person that was priced and presented as new, even behind a locked glass door, and it still was not only used, but still had someone's data on it, AND a bootcamp partition. I'm not surprised that this is happening
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
has that happened to you your daddy buys you a 30 terabyte ssd?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cobaltretrotech
@cobaltretrotech Жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 how hold of you to assume that I am not capable of buying my own things. Not everyone is spoon fed by their parents for their entire life
@h8GW
@h8GW Жыл бұрын
It's what happens when you use min-wage employees to process tech returns instead of a dedicated tech refurbishment team.
@ShaCaro
@ShaCaro Жыл бұрын
​@@cobaltretrotech but very safe to assume you didn't watch the video.
@cobaltretrotech
@cobaltretrotech Жыл бұрын
@@ShaCaro I did. I admit that my experience is at best tangentially related, but this still reminded me of my own less than stellar Walmart experience
@AidenRKrone
@AidenRKrone Жыл бұрын
Back in 2019, I bought one of those SSDs from Walmart's online marketplace, although the one I bought was 500 GB and was branded as "Kootion". Rather than having a spoofed storage capacity, it would outright crash and lock up my entire computer every time I tried to copy any file to it. I contacted the seller to explain the situation, and surprisingly they fully refunded me and paid for me to ship the item back.
@freedomliberty5525
@freedomliberty5525 Жыл бұрын
Let us hope it was not a trojan SSD, and you shipped them back all kinds of info.
@builder396
@builder396 Жыл бұрын
Even the brand name told you to proceed with caution, I mean, it sounds almost the same.
@sonnguyen-iv7gv
@sonnguyen-iv7gv Жыл бұрын
3 months after the video was posted, walmart is still selling these "SSD"
@laurenjones5081
@laurenjones5081 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, any storage that claims that are writing over 500 MB per second through a USB 3.14. It's a delusional at best but it's easily tested through benchmarking
@steve_1507
@steve_1507 Жыл бұрын
The reason it is faster directly is because the computer uses SD Mode, whereas the enclosure uses SPI mode, which is slowet but doesn't require a license
@rudeskalamander
@rudeskalamander Жыл бұрын
What does spi mean in this context? I'm only familiar with it meaning ska punk international
@BZEOfficials
@BZEOfficials Жыл бұрын
@@rudeskalamander LMAO WHAT
@rudeskalamander
@rudeskalamander Жыл бұрын
@@BZEOfficials ska punk international is a great music lable
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Жыл бұрын
@@rudeskalamander Serial Peripheral Interface is, well, serial, so it can only transfer one stream of data at a time whereas SD mode can transfer up to 4.
@thesledgehammerblog
@thesledgehammerblog Жыл бұрын
Something tells me whoever is out there churning out scam products like this can easily find some controller that bootlegs the technology, but it's probably 3 cents more expensive per unit so they go with the cheap one.
@ExtraSauceOnTheSide
@ExtraSauceOnTheSide Жыл бұрын
I would also check whether the USB cable included in the product is even USB 3.0 compatible. I've been noticing cables that claim they support USB 3.0 and even color the plugs blue, but are only wired for USB 2.0.
@KingSchmandmann
@KingSchmandmann Жыл бұрын
There are only two traces (USB 2.0) between the chip and the USB connector on the board
@MrAdannor
@MrAdannor Жыл бұрын
@@KingSchmandmann The question is more like did the scammer buy a normal 3rd party USB3 cable to put into the box or did they manufacture a fake cable too.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
@@MrAdannor There are legitimate USB 2.0 cables with USB-C connectors. They are useful for connecting new devices to USB 2.0 A ports on computers and chargers. But they generally aren't marked with the Blue color code for USB 3 plugs.
@MrAdannor
@MrAdannor Жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 Yes, of course. But this scamdrive has the blue plastic, so it is either a legit usb3 cable or a fake usb3 cable and it is a bit curious about which.
@taunteratwill1787
@taunteratwill1787 Жыл бұрын
True!! 😎
@Thatguy101987
@Thatguy101987 Жыл бұрын
Ken's credit card company must hate him for all the chargebacks he has to do.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Жыл бұрын
wait wait wait how is a 30 TB drive that cheap on a serious matter forgetting about the size how is it that a 10TB drive is over 200 dollars in price and this drive is three times the capacity and only 30 bucks wow sounds like a scam to me🤣
@spugelo359
@spugelo359 11 ай бұрын
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue What I'm more baffled by is how is that even legal? That is 100% false advertisement to sell something and lie about the specs.
@billant2
@billant2 7 ай бұрын
@@spugelo359 - It's illegal to misrepresent a product in most countries, yet large online marketplaces seem to look the other way. smh
@russelldoty2743
@russelldoty2743 6 ай бұрын
​@@spugelo359Legality doesn't matter if punishments aren't enforced. And considering that a lot of these people are likely located in regions that are hostile to foreign influence, it's likely they'll never be enforced.
@unifiedhorizons2663
@unifiedhorizons2663 3 ай бұрын
My 5 terabyte drive was only 30 to 60 dollars and it works great but I bought it from Amazon via a data storage company that sells drives. I think 60 was max I think 30 is more then a black disk drive which is 15 for 200 my blue disk was 90 to 105 but that’s only 15 or 5 can’t remember.
@runforitman
@runforitman Жыл бұрын
I hate this trend of huge retailers letting whoever use their name to sell scam / garbage items It is frustrating
@ButterFromDiscord
@ButterFromDiscord Жыл бұрын
0:01 yes actually, except it was a 128gb flash drive I bought myself on a random day in the summer that corrupted the data on other external storage devices
@Eldorriots
@Eldorriots Жыл бұрын
30TB? I don't think we are came that far yet. (Mind the date as I wrote this)
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Yeah… 😅
@tylern6420
@tylern6420 Жыл бұрын
Even then this seems too small for 30 TB
@tylern6420
@tylern6420 Жыл бұрын
Like maybe you can squeeze half of that into the case
@saxman112
@saxman112 Жыл бұрын
Ugh, the fact that major retailers like Walmart and Amazon are allowing this kind of stuff to happen is beyond infuriating! Simply put if it’s too good to be true, it probably is. Sure, the prices of flash storage have come down dramatically in recent years, but giant capacities, like 30 TB and larger, are still going to cost many thousands of dollars for probably the rest of our lifetime…
@johnlovric
@johnlovric Жыл бұрын
if we all bought these in volume, and demanded refunds - easy to prove its a scam - I have a feeling walmart & amazon would be forced to vet resellers more or just drop them entirely... of course, there are no enough of us willing to go thru the headache
@chadd990
@chadd990 Жыл бұрын
@@johnlovric heck yeah. we need to buy a bunch of these. My affiliate link is in my bio, buy them from there. Buy like 10 of them, that will send a bigger message.
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 Жыл бұрын
They're not even possible yet in such a formfactor... There's simply not enough room in that tiny enclosure to fit that amount of NAND flash.
@joefish6091
@joefish6091 Жыл бұрын
Same as car companies doing cost benefit analysis of danger vs recall. whatever makes a profit.
@someguy4915
@someguy4915 Жыл бұрын
@@MLWJ1993 There is easily enough physical space, there's even a 100TB SSD (for enterprise so don't even bother looking at the price tag) in roughly the same physical dimensions.
@RuruFIN
@RuruFIN Жыл бұрын
I love these fake storage device videos, as it's always interesting to see that what they've put inside of the covers of those.
@TomNimitz
@TomNimitz Жыл бұрын
There was a image floating around a few years back of a (fake capacity) portable drive. Inside the enclosure was a small SD card and adapter, plus two very large iron hex nuts glued in to add mass.
@bibasik7
@bibasik7 Жыл бұрын
You deserve an Oscar for pretending to be surprised every time these SSDs turn out to be USB 2.0!
@oscargalindo26
@oscargalindo26 Жыл бұрын
What?
@nekosh1ru
@nekosh1ru Жыл бұрын
@@oscargalindo26 NO WAY
@oscargalindo26
@oscargalindo26 Жыл бұрын
@@nekosh1ru Ha
@namesurname4666
@namesurname4666 Жыл бұрын
what's the point of usb 3.0 if an sd card is around 1mb/s-100mb/s?
@someguy4915
@someguy4915 Жыл бұрын
@@namesurname4666 Higher speed is the point, obviously... USB 2.0 is max 480Mb/s, so a 100MB/s SD card (note the difference between Mb/s and MB/s) would be about double the speed that a USB 2.0 connection can transfer.
@damian9303
@damian9303 Жыл бұрын
I actually remember being able to find Windows XP laptops being sold on Walmart’s website some several years ago and being mindblown considering at the time they only had Windows 8 ones for display in store. Now I guess I know why
@a2pha
@a2pha Жыл бұрын
6:11 The transfer to these solid state drives will also slow down if it is getting "too hot." And I mean that in the literal sense. I have an old 256-GB I use for transfers and even after only transferring 50-100gb the plug itself is red hot; you can burn your finger on it. So be careful out there when transferring files.
@ronk9830
@ronk9830 7 ай бұрын
I had two of those portable SSDs (the black ones that look kind of like a cigarette lighter). I bought them on Walmart Marketplace. They did exactly the same thing. I tried to do backups, and they would appear to be doing it, but afterward, many of the files were corrupt. I tried everything, like copying small groups of files, fully formatting the drives (took 24 hours) but to no avail. After I initiated a return, the marketplace company emailed me and wanted to give me a discount not to return them. I ignored their request as I had already returned them to the store, and they were useless, anyway. One good thing about Walmart is you can always be sure you can return items if they're unsatisfactory. The most it cost me was leaving my computer on for over 48 hours formatting them. A product that is, in fact, too good to be true.
@CrispyToast
@CrispyToast Жыл бұрын
10:27 "I am Heavy Weapons Guy... and THIS... is my weapon."
@biggiejohn3360
@biggiejohn3360 Жыл бұрын
way too many people dont understand the difference between "bought ON Walmart/Amazon" vs "Bought FROM Walmart/Amazon", those are both market places, with many companies selling, they are generally not vetted or make any guarantees as to the legitimacy of products listed.
@2.0taccord
@2.0taccord Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad someone is finally talking about this. I've seen so many of these on Amazon as of late and I knew these were just using modified controllers
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 11 ай бұрын
These are probably factory rejects. The chips in them probably have faults, bad memory segments, can't handle high Hz. Throw it in the garbage.
@TheRetroMess
@TheRetroMess Жыл бұрын
Another red flag is that they are private third party sellers (read: NOT affiliated with Walmart or Amazon) shipping from and based out of China (or similarly sketchy country). Always look at the country of origin. ALWAYS.
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Жыл бұрын
Yup, Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, etc. are all essentially just eBay now, and they even make a point of displaying third-party items and even making it hard to filter them out. 😠 Always make sure to filter them (assuming there's an option to do so). Yes, this will eliminate legitimate third-party sellers, but you can't take a chance, especially with something expensive or storage which you put irreplaceable files on. 🤷
@Relkond
@Relkond Жыл бұрын
The issue of fraudulent sellers and fraudulent storefronts has also limited who I’m willing to buy from and what I’ll buy from them. What I won’t be buying for some time is SSDs that price at $1/tb
@joefish6091
@joefish6091 Жыл бұрын
if on a host website then they are affiliates. same as utube partnering with election fraudsters.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
All the best drives are made in China or 3rd world countries anyway. It's the company name of the seller that matters. Some fraudsters will stick fake Samsung or Kingston names on their fake drives, but hopefully they'll have problems getting listed as _being_ Samsung on a website where the real Samsung is also selling.
@Relkond
@Relkond Жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 By ‘China’… do you mean the Republic of China, or the People’s Republic of China? Because one of the two may find it difficult to compete in the SSD market, while the other has a healthy chunk of the market.
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie Жыл бұрын
If Walmart is listing the item, then they are also liable for issues. A refund will do, but yeah they are on the hook.
@derrickbrummett6973
@derrickbrummett6973 Жыл бұрын
It's cool watching someone who knows what they're talking about expose these scams.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
: )
@rafaeltorovip
@rafaeltorovip Жыл бұрын
When a company is so bad about checking what they allow vendors to put on their website you just can imagine the type of quality control they have. That’s why I do not remember the last time I visited a Walmart store or bought something at their website. 😞
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Жыл бұрын
Walmart, Best Buy, Amazon, etc. do this now, they allow third-party sellers and have essentially turned into eBay. They don't bother to vet anything because they charge a fee to allow third-party sellers and won't take action unless they get a significant amount of complaints. Avaricious capitalism at work. 🤷
@TheMastertbc
@TheMastertbc Жыл бұрын
Think about what garbage food they would sell
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf Жыл бұрын
This is the walmart online-store - and in that regards they are basically the same as any other online marketplace - just as bad as amazon.
@snakewithapen5489
@snakewithapen5489 Жыл бұрын
I'm from the Midwest so I have a personal vendetta against Walmart lol. They are not getting my money
@chainswordcs
@chainswordcs Жыл бұрын
here's hoping walmart dies out this decade
@jnorth6022
@jnorth6022 Жыл бұрын
In these days, there are at least 1000 scammer per 1 consumer. This is exactly why such reviews like the one in this video are so important! Before buying almost literally anything, look up as many reviews as possible of that thing you are about to purchase. THANK YOU for this great video!
@theodoros_1234
@theodoros_1234 Жыл бұрын
These videos keep getting better, It's clear that you're putting a lot of effort in making these! You explained everything very well, and I had a good laugh at the same time.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I super-appreciate it because you're right! I've been pumping a lot more time and effort into these lately. Ya know, the whole quality over quantity approach. : D
@theodoros_1234
@theodoros_1234 Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan I just hope that the magic KZbin algorithm notices and rewards you with more views and new subs, since you would definitely deserve it! You make better content than some channels that have millions of subs.
@bumbo66
@bumbo66 Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan I hope you so a review on the flashlight scam? I see that stupid ad your flashlight is like a lightsaber.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
@@bumbo66 did you see the end of my episode? I think this will answer your hopes. ; )
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
@@theodoros_1234 it absolutely does. However, it’s bad practice to focus on the algorithm. I’ve learned to replace the word “algorithm” with “audience”. I put viewer satisfaction first and everything else will follow. 😇
@honda_fanboy
@honda_fanboy Жыл бұрын
You need to upload more, I love Scam Busting episodes so much
@geoffstrickler
@geoffstrickler Жыл бұрын
Hey, the fact that the microSD card was decent means you got $15-$20 worth of value for your $40.
@arieelberian7614
@arieelberian7614 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that somebody accidentally added an extra zero to their "3TB" and decided "F**k it, just leave it like that."
@tylern6420
@tylern6420 Жыл бұрын
Probably like several zeros
@VVerVVurm
@VVerVVurm Жыл бұрын
that's what I would do if I was a scammer .. selling a 128GB thing and list it as 128TB .. ups .. plausible deniability
@Aliyah_666
@Aliyah_666 6 ай бұрын
​@@VVerVVurmOr scammers could just go pound salt...😂
@stinkycheese804
@stinkycheese804 4 ай бұрын
Pretty ridiculous thing to suggest, when a 3TB SSD for $40 would have still been a loss leader and great deal for the buyer.
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf Жыл бұрын
Obviously "30T" denotes that the drive is capable of storing thirty times the pity that Mr. T has for a fool.
@redsnaps
@redsnaps Жыл бұрын
The computer clan has saved me from many purchases if not for your videos of information I and many others would of been scammed many times. THANK YOU COMPUTER CLAN.
@kevinwebster7868
@kevinwebster7868 Жыл бұрын
I hate it when people refuse to make companies accountable for their B.S. If it’s sold on Amazon, if it’s sold on Walmart’s website it’s an Amazon or Walmart product. Force them to take responsibility instead of allowing and condoning them actively taking part in scamming people.
@h8GW
@h8GW Жыл бұрын
I love how much good information you packed into this video in a way for even tech noobs to understand. Not that I'm a tech noob -more like tech barely competent,- but it all lined up with the snippets of tech knowledge I picked up from various sources over the years.
@johnsullivan937
@johnsullivan937 Жыл бұрын
I came across these when looking for a 4tb external drive. Not gonna lie, I was tempted.. as the storage size wasnt quite as absurd as the "30tb" one you found. I think I found some listings where it was like 8tb for 60 bucks, which yes still absurd now that I think about it. At the time I wasnt even aware these fake external drives existed, I figured it was just some cheaper generic brand. Luckily I went with my better judgement and bought the western digital 4tb for like 90 bucks. It's honestly wrong that these websites arent penalized for selling these things, I dont care if something isnt amazon branded or walmart branded. Its being sold on their online storefront. I'd complain to a store owner if he was selling some bag of chips that when opened was full of silly string.. so why arent these companies being held responsible? Amazon in particular is absolutely filled with scam products. There has to be some basic customer protections against this crap. I mean come on, its blatant false advertising. I wonder how many normal every day people buy these, then dont realize something is wrong until a year or so later after they filled the 128gb up with pictures/music. By then its too late.
@annieworroll4373
@annieworroll4373 Жыл бұрын
I have two 4TB HDDs in RAID 1. Each of them was just over 100USD on sale. The price per gigabyte on this thing would be a huge red flag. If it had that capacity it would either be horrifically unreliable or a situation where you do *not* ask them who their supplier is unless you're a fan of cement footwear.
@targuscinco
@targuscinco Жыл бұрын
One time I had a fake flesh light. The hole was just a sticker! I was like oh man, you got me good!
@tazman8697
@tazman8697 6 ай бұрын
LOL
@Omnipresentpigeon
@Omnipresentpigeon 3 ай бұрын
Scammers truly are everywhere!….
@targuscinco
@targuscinco 3 ай бұрын
@@Omnipresentpigeon they are hitting us where it hurts now!
@targuscinco
@targuscinco 2 ай бұрын
@exvinity290 it's like how women's clothes will some times have fake pockets stitched into them. I would have to imagine that the empty cold feeling of finding out you've been duped by an industry just selling you empty dreams to superficial herd, is much the same as my experience.
@justingurski5155
@justingurski5155 2 ай бұрын
Profile pic checks out 💀
@GodmanchesterGoblin
@GodmanchesterGoblin Жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing this kind of dodgy data storage product greater attention. I was also impressed by the clarity of your explanations showing how the storage ultimately fails but continues to give the user the impression that it's all working.
@midi-sama
@midi-sama Жыл бұрын
Btw! You can flash that controller to let it recognize the actual capacity of the drive! I did that with some fake usb drives and it worked fine! However I'm not sure what software to use for this specific chip, they usually have their own oem flashing utility that can even let you fake the usb IDs.
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ Жыл бұрын
The card is of poor quality, they're not going to use expensive high-quality media, they'll use whatever cheap junk they got in bulk from the reject bin from a factory. I wouldn't trust any important files to scam media even if you've flashed it to be correct. Only store expendable or replaceable stuff.
@kbhasi
@kbhasi Жыл бұрын
@@I.____.....__...__ Yep, I agree. I've a feeling that the companies making such counterfeit storage devices probably get most of their storage chips and microSD cards from the reject bin at one of the factories SanDisk use, but I only think so because of the number of knockoff SanDisk Ultra microSD cards I saw on AliExpress, such as "Lenovo Ultra" and "Huawei Ultra". Edit: I remember buying SanDisk flash drives on DX that turned out to be fake, and was able to get a refund through that website. That happened several years ago.
@caralynx
@caralynx Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: for some of these controllers the config is on the card itself. If you insert a card without a specially provisioned config, it should work just like any other card reader.
@Tahngarthor
@Tahngarthor 6 ай бұрын
The reason why Walmart and Amazon don't put much time into vetting these products is because it's far cheaper and easier to just tell the customer "sorry you got scammed here's a refund" than it is to actually punish companies for breaking their rules.
@aaronmorris5403
@aaronmorris5403 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Great to see you on screen in last week's BattleBots!
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And I'm glad you saw me! I love going to the tapings… That reminds me. I have a new BB episode to watch. 😈
@Elvisdukebox
@Elvisdukebox 4 ай бұрын
I brought one of these from a company here in the UK called Moxtons. A scam company here in the UK. Do not buy anything from them. Managed to get my money back through my credit card company. The price was £79.99. Great video Ken, I have just subscribed. Keep the good video's coming. 🙂
@robburdack4361
@robburdack4361 Жыл бұрын
i got a ebay company busted last month for selling ssd,s marked as wd and with packaging identical ... they got in a whole lot of trouble and then their and about 7 other sellers went bye bye real fast lol
@caralynx
@caralynx Жыл бұрын
One thing you could have done before formatting the card was to check it out with a hex editor. Some readers use configuration directly on the card to program its VID/PID and capacity. If you tried inserting a normal microSD card, it would behave like a normal reader.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman Жыл бұрын
Sadly, Walmart (and others like Amazon) allow the listings of so many manufacturer's that they simply do not have the time to properly check each one (though, that in of itself is a problem). If I'm a scammer, I know that I only need to have my product up long enough to hook a few hundred people before my listing is reported or investigated by the company. By that time, I've made my money and most likely have multiple products up at one time which have all made money. Get myself investigated, shut down, move around and change everything and do it all over again.
@ailivac
@ailivac Жыл бұрын
The only time I've heard of Amazon requiring sellers to provide any kind of documentation like this is safety certifications for lithium ion batteries. But if there's no way it can make their delivery trucks catch fire they couldn't care less as long as they get paid.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman Жыл бұрын
@@ailivac I watched a video about that very subject, Amazon's battery requirements are pretty vague and can be sidestepped too. It's why they can sell those knock-off Ryobi batteries (for example) without getting in trouble, they just kind of fudge the numbers because Amazon won't check. Then you get one home and you gamble on whether it'll work or not.
@ailivac
@ailivac Жыл бұрын
@@cujoedaman like I said, I don't think they care in the slightest whether the specifications are accurately represented or that the product works correctly, they just want some assurance that it won't set one of their trucks on fire. or if it does, that someone else *said* it was safe and therefore will assume the liability if it's not
@MatthewCenance
@MatthewCenance Жыл бұрын
The eight second intro is the best intro clip from the Computer Clan. I've replayed that countless times - I enjoy the hammy presentation of the intro. "I Hate That!" is a quote that's starting to get stuck in my memories and I sometimes think of that quote too.
@nikolakolarov12
@nikolakolarov12 Жыл бұрын
This series is amazing, you need to upload more.
@JBFranny
@JBFranny Жыл бұрын
When I worked for WM customer service I would always tell people never trust 3rd Part Vendors. If you're gonna buy something from them make sure it's returnable, and if you have to return it, do it in store ASAP, I've seen vendors give customers the run around for weeks, then tell them it's too late.
@MrHeem94
@MrHeem94 Жыл бұрын
I always say you're doing a great service for people by making these videos. It's especially needed today as these scammers are everywhere and a large chunk of the population have zero common sense and, lets be honest here, have the IQ of a dead moth. Let's hope you're able to get it through their thick empty skulls by continuing to pump out these vids. Thanks!
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 11 ай бұрын
There is a portion of the population that calls India when they get a popup and the call center agent connects to their PC, runs the tree command and other nonsense. Some people buy gift cards, 4 gift cards, 500$ each. Some of them put 40 k$ in a box and ship it. Some buy gift cards when they win some lottery or publisher's clearing house. It is almost 2024 and these old scams still work. I don't get it.
@413Dimitri
@413Dimitri Жыл бұрын
You should take a look into the WD 18tb storage that Best Buy sells…they aren’t 18tb and contain a mismatch of different drive companies inside.
@ModernChaot
@ModernChaot Жыл бұрын
I gotta admit, your production quality continues to improve and get better with each video!
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
Thank you! : D
@kilgarragh
@kilgarragh Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan that is one cursed emoticon ;-;
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind Жыл бұрын
I think I fell for one of these scams when building my grandmother’s computer. It was an internal “512 GB” SSD. But Windows kept getting corrupted.
@i_like_commenting_ok
@i_like_commenting_ok Жыл бұрын
i remember windows getting corrupted once on my old laptop but how does one keep getting corrupted
@yogibear2k220
@yogibear2k220 Жыл бұрын
Man, though. A 600 hour KZbin video would be "freakin' amazin' " as you would say. A definite long video record breaker! Go,on, do it! You are Krazy Ken after all.....
@jeffwalker7185
@jeffwalker7185 Жыл бұрын
With regard to the previous video where you destroyed a fake SSD -I find that isopropyl alcohol is good at releasing hot glue and won't damage the electronic parts.
@lovedfriend2020
@lovedfriend2020 Жыл бұрын
Its sad that Walmart is going down the same path as Amazon with fake stuff. :(
@johnree6106
@johnree6106 Жыл бұрын
Just once I want someone to scam someone with such a device but instead of over reporting the specs, under report them so you get more than you bargained for.
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 8 ай бұрын
I've had similar thoughts. The world's most generous pick-pocket and burglar. A man who sneaks into your purse or wallet in order to *add* money to your wallet; and they break into your home in the middle of the night to upgrade your television, computers, home entertainment system, furniture, etc.
@jakalair
@jakalair Жыл бұрын
A great video as always. I love the way you broke down what you know vs what you are guessing at. I can't help but wonder what a dump of that control chip would show. Is the chip made evil? Or was it programmed that way? Does it report a flat amount or some multiple of the sd card inserted? Can it reformat a different SD card? I love videos that give me more questions!
@309electronics5
@309electronics5 Жыл бұрын
Those controllers likely have some firmware and sdk/flash tool in where you can either make a custom firmware image with your own listings and configurations or use an existing one (maybe even with the function of editing that premade image) my usb has an silicon motion mcu with an 8051 and it has a sdk in where you can fill in the vendor id, product id, size, flash type, name etc
@Levantis1
@Levantis1 Жыл бұрын
Considering that Walmart is notorious for selling inferior products, I am SO not surprised about this.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, Ken, because wow, we wouldn't think this kind of junk would be on Walmart, but obviously we thought wrong! This junk is the kind of stuff we'd see on Wish!
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 11 ай бұрын
The video is great but it is obvious that the 30 TB SSD is not real right? It is 40$. If you see a light bulb made by Zortem and it is 0.10$, you wouldn't buy it, right? Buy the General Electric and pay 5$. Brand loyalty is important.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 11 ай бұрын
@@louistournas120: Umm... don't you think that's why I said what I said?
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 11 ай бұрын
@@HelloKittyFanMan. Good. Then, there is nothing to worry about.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 11 ай бұрын
@@louistournas120: Then why did you even try countering -- or just "countering" -- with that reply?
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 11 ай бұрын
@@HelloKittyFanMan. I was making the point that brand loyalty is a good thing. Don't buy random noname things just bc they are cheap and in this case, they are offering 30 TB which is funny.
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 Жыл бұрын
People will likely say "Formating the drive will reveal the true capacity". Well, they are wrong, the controller chip is hacked to trick the computer into thinking it's a 30TB drive like what Ken said. I highly recommend watching Atomic Shrimp's video on fake USB drives.
@ScottishCCRfan
@ScottishCCRfan Жыл бұрын
This. Shrimp has covered this before and I think PleasantGreen has as well.
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 Жыл бұрын
@@ScottishCCRfan Oh, no shit!
@Blinsick
@Blinsick Жыл бұрын
TF2 bit was unexpected, nice one Ken :D
@johnslugger
@johnslugger 6 ай бұрын
*When it comes to USB, micro SD cards and SSD drives ALWAYS BUY NAME BRAND ONLY like "EVO" !!!! The other guys can reformat a 2GB drive into a 64GB drive by cutting the "BIT" up into 32 pcs. It may last 20 writes before it dies for good!*
@EthanRDoesMC_
@EthanRDoesMC_ Жыл бұрын
10:16 I mean, it makes for a half-decent last-resort microsd card reader…?
@tristanraine
@tristanraine Жыл бұрын
Some SD card readers like that force to read those SD cards at 30TB since its the board, so it probably is useless anyway.
@ComputerClan
@ComputerClan Жыл бұрын
It probably wouldn't work because the card would need to be reformatted. The controller would get in the way. : )
@tristanraine
@tristanraine Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan that's much better then how I explained it
@EthanRDoesMC_
@EthanRDoesMC_ Жыл бұрын
@@ComputerClan I wasn’t even thinking about the controller. Man so this thing really is just complete e-waste :/
@soundspark
@soundspark Жыл бұрын
Transfer rates can be over 4GB/sec thanks to USB4. Since I have a 3.2 port and the 4 version was so much more expensive, I settled for a USB 3.2 NVMe reader that reaches 2GB/sec.
@lucadivine3862
@lucadivine3862 Жыл бұрын
I really hate how the official title for USB 2.0 performance is "Hi-Speed" because it's super duper misleading to consumers who don't know any better...
@Zark-Muckerberg
@Zark-Muckerberg Жыл бұрын
It was named Hi-Speed because it is more than double the speeds of it's predecessors (USB 1.0 and 1.1).
@untrust2033
@untrust2033 Жыл бұрын
I just love when they slap some text straight on top of an existing product image with no skew or anything so it doesnt line up properly!
@Gameboy_1992
@Gameboy_1992 Жыл бұрын
9:38 Lmao
@scrappy93
@scrappy93 Жыл бұрын
The issue is that when people get scammed, they don't report the seller. Some buyers are just suckers.
@PlanetLinuxChannel
@PlanetLinuxChannel Жыл бұрын
Technically the drive is “high speed” as it indicates. It’s clearly making out within USB 2 speeds, which was called hi-speed USB.
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech Жыл бұрын
Amazon has it BAD. I was trying to get a 6TB hard drive for mass storage of video files the other day and I was FLOODED by tons of product listings advertising 20TB for the price of a 2TB drive. So many that I had to go to Best Buy to get them because the first two pages had every other listing was a scam. Ended up finding a Best Buy gift card I forgot I had from a Christmas a while ago. Didn’t spend a dime of my own money. Got a 6TB WD red for like 90 bucks vs literally getting scammed out of 120+ for a “20TB” piece of shit.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
I do not get why they do it. When I advice people where to buy memory cards: i have to say do not buy from Amazon. If I can find the fakes, they could do it also and kick the sellers out.
@dcavalli9
@dcavalli9 Жыл бұрын
I bought one on Amazon last year. It was a piece of garbage. I threw it out. The vendor is no longer listed.
@enderzhul_66
@enderzhul_66 Жыл бұрын
Loved the TF2 meme, glad the community keeps it alive so well
@jamesfararo2493
@jamesfararo2493 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR HELPING GET IT OUT THERE! :)
@CoasterMan13Official
@CoasterMan13Official Жыл бұрын
I did get a refurbished 1tb Toshiba HDD from Amazon for like $30. Works pretty well.
@bionicbison05
@bionicbison05 Жыл бұрын
5:48 “WhatThe (F:)” Genius 😂
@thevalorousdong7675
@thevalorousdong7675 8 ай бұрын
3:42 It doesn't matter that Walmart didn't make, they're still selling it without verifying it's real. May as well be making them
@SalvoGamerYT1
@SalvoGamerYT1 Жыл бұрын
@ComputerClan i actually encountered this problem and found a similar one and told my dad to buy me that for christmas and then we returned it and they returned the money then i bought a gooder Western Digital Elements USB 3.1 SSD with 2TB of space for double the price which honestly wasn't that much, i knew that there was some sus things going on inside this thing and with your video you helped me bust this myth
@gamingwithmahirofficial2489
@gamingwithmahirofficial2489 Жыл бұрын
bro the ending made me lose my shi im dyinggggggggggg "have u finished ur homework? no mom the cheap ssd ate my homework"
@ArniesTech
@ArniesTech Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your Channel, Ken! You gained a new subscriber. So many inspiring and interesting ideas for my own channel 🙏
@ianollman5006
@ianollman5006 Жыл бұрын
Yes I bought a 16Tb SSD, turned out to contain a 64Gb Micro SD card, when I could have bought a 64Gb Micro card for about a third of the cost I paid for the SSD, if looks too good it is probably a scam..
@CMDRunematti
@CMDRunematti Жыл бұрын
Walmart sells it with the website with their name. They definitely should be liable for fraud for this.
@DaveTexas
@DaveTexas Жыл бұрын
My husband bought several of these type of things for us. He didn’t tell me; he just bought like six of them. When he gave me a couple of them, I told him that there was no way a device that small and that cheap cold hold however many TB of data they claimed to hold. I wouldn’t even plug one into my computer for fear of it trying to install some virus. He didn’t listen to me and wrote a ton of data to one. He showed me the directory and how it was showing all the files and all the available memory. I asked him to open several of the files. Sure enough, he couldn’t. Everything was corrupted. It’s exactly like everything else in this world; if it’s too good to be true, then it’s not real. I’ve got 30 TB of storage attached to my computer, but it cost me about $600. Not $40.
@Horse335
@Horse335 Жыл бұрын
I Love your videos and how much effort you bring to the table in showing the world the lies that are out there. Thank you!
@iamfbjreturned
@iamfbjreturned Жыл бұрын
Walmarts websit allows companies to sell items at absurdly inflated prices, including many scalpers and outright scammers they do NOT deserve to be cut any slack.
@4bSix86f61
@4bSix86f61 5 ай бұрын
Tip for filesystems: Linux can read filesystems that macOS/Win10 can't.
@genotronex8663
@genotronex8663 Жыл бұрын
One scammer website had a trick for similar product, you select the capacity 128G, 512G,2T and on the checkout they put the capacity unit to be in bit not in byte so 2T is 2Tb which is around 2GB capacity and the website customer service will blame you and not issue a refund after your purchase
@EgoChip
@EgoChip Жыл бұрын
When it comes to data storage, I always buy from reputable and reliable brands, and if it looks too good to be true then it definitely is. Brands I would recommend are Sandisk, Samsung, Crucial, Kingston, Western Digital.
@Ghostie2023-A
@Ghostie2023-A 10 ай бұрын
I just fell for this scam on wal-mart: I got a drive that looked exactly like the square ssd drive. It was listed as a 40 TB hard drive for about $75 . Should have known but I caved and got it. Turned out to be exactly what you just described. I am at a loss of about $75. I am shocked wal-mart allows stuff like this.
@richardlong1567
@richardlong1567 Жыл бұрын
Loved it! I bought 6 32GB thumb drives for clients and they are all crap.....Keep up the good work.
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply Жыл бұрын
I used to use that old "my disk got corrupted when I accidentally ejected it while saving my paper" excuse. Granted, this was 1684, so nobody knew what I was talking about and they had me tried as a witch. I got the job.
@bosstowndynamics5488
@bosstowndynamics5488 Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that the file allocation table is not touched by the dodgy controller, that's used entirely at the filesystem level by the OS, which is part of the reason it doesn't get updated. The OS creates an inappropriately large table when formatting the drive because it's being told that the drive is larger than it is
@AaronShenghao
@AaronShenghao Жыл бұрын
These SSD scam started with fake SD card scam… the scammer just found a new wrapper…. I only buy SD card and SSD SOLD by Amazon, not 3rd party
@AlexanderTzalumen
@AlexanderTzalumen Жыл бұрын
For these tests, it might help if the large files you're writing are non-encoded binary data, something that doesn't need header data to render into a usable format. That would allow you to open all the file entries on the allocation table regardless of them being overwritten and see when and where the files have been cut apart by the microcontroller.
@Hauketal
@Hauketal Жыл бұрын
Thus is what h2testw does. It writes pseudorandom data, but remembers the initial settings of the number generator. Now it can re-generate any data that shoud be in the file for checking, without needing the space for a second copy.
@AlexanderTzalumen
@AlexanderTzalumen Жыл бұрын
@@Hauketal isn't that the program that takes >600 hours, though?
@Hauketal
@Hauketal Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderTzalumen Yes, but only if you have a large (pretended) and slow device like this. Real disks are faster and not as large.
@AlexanderTzalumen
@AlexanderTzalumen Жыл бұрын
@@Hauketal these things remind me of the physical security products on Amazon
@AzumiRM
@AzumiRM Жыл бұрын
I like that you put your sponsor at the end of your videos. I especially like when you review non apple products. This gets a thumbs up from me. Glad I subbed
@olsmokey
@olsmokey 8 ай бұрын
I bought some supposedly 2TB drives from (some place in China) which did exactly the same as described in this video. Pulled them apart to find a tiny pcb with a controller and 64GB microSD card. Once I reformatted the cards I found they were actually quite fast and (1) they wouldn't work in the "2TB" drives anymore, and (2) I'm still using them successfully in some dashcams. Oh well, not a total loss.
@Fisheee123
@Fisheee123 Жыл бұрын
My dad got scammed on Amazon a couple years ago after buying a "256 gb" micro sd card. The branding and listing all said sandisk, but it was fake. My parents went to Iceland for an anniversary trip, took a lot of photos, and returned to find out that it was only a 8 gb card. They lost most of the pics which sucks, but Amazon gave him a full refund
@genericname3685
@genericname3685 Жыл бұрын
A 128gb sd card is a rare sight to see. This is probably the best case scenario if the scammer is feeling generous lol. Normally on scam products they don't even pass 16gb or more
@jacobtitio5275
@jacobtitio5275 Жыл бұрын
I was about to buy one of these SSD due to their price but I didn't thanks to your video. Love your vids and thank for the useful information.
@ReubenAStern
@ReubenAStern Жыл бұрын
That "brand" is all over Amazon. I thought they were suspiciously cheap but 30TB takes the mick.
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