I bought a "4TB" SATA SSD from AliExpress for $40 - It's a slightly different scam!

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@SMOOREZ
@SMOOREZ 10 ай бұрын
*It's an obvious scam but people may still fall for it if they aren't too careful. Just be careful when buying stuff like this* Hey everyone, welcome back to another installment in my iWish series! I said I wouldn't. I know, but I bought this as a pure curiousity, simply because it uses SATA instead of USB. Hope this was still entertaining for the first video of 2024 (Happy New Year also everyone!) and thank you to the folks that did donate towards seeing this and other products on the channel. I appreciate you all so much :) Let me know what you thought of this one down below! TIMESTAMPS: Introduction & Disclaimers: 0:00 The Listing, Pricing & Comparison: 1:44 Unboxing: 3:56 The 4TB Drive & Taking it apart: 4:58 Plugging it into a PC & First Issues: 6:17 Testing with H2TestW, More Issues etc: 7:24 Further Analysis of the Board: 8:40 HD Sentinel, AS SSD Benchmark, Second Test & Results: 9:50 Final Thoughts, Be Cautious & Rambling: 10:57 Thanking folks & Outro: 12:27 Be good people!
@mateuszzimon8216
@mateuszzimon8216 10 ай бұрын
3:52 SATA M.2 Drives exist, they use different keying. Also if u wanna get real SSD/HDD u buy hiksemi
@nightbirdds
@nightbirdds 10 ай бұрын
I had to service a computer that was acting up. It had a drive very similar to this in it. The client had bought one and installed it as their boot drive. After getting windows installed, Steam, and a few games, it crashed exactly like that. People have fallen for it, and I'm just glad this client hadn't had enough time to put a lot of their life on it.
@dancingwiththedogsdj
@dancingwiththedogsdj 10 ай бұрын
It's just hard to tell anymore and obvious to one person, may not be obvious to me, so I truly appreciate you taking the time for stuff like this! I'm still in the dark sometimes about what is good VS scam products and I really love trying to keep up with the good, bad, and ugly of computers, electronics, etc.... but it is HARD!!!
@mitabpraga7487
@mitabpraga7487 10 ай бұрын
Thing is it's not that obvious to everyone. I've thanked you in another post for the heads up on this, I know I'm going to have to warn people of it and I doubt I'll be the only person who's seen this video and will be warning others. Good work mate, every time you point out what you might think is obvious, someone who doesn't think it's obvious finds out the easy way rather than the hard way, even if it's at 2 or 3 degrees of separation.
@nightbirdds
@nightbirdds 10 ай бұрын
@@mitabpraga7487 Yeah, that's the problem. If you don't look closely at it, you won't spot it. I didn't see it myself until I pulled it from the system and looked closer. It's just close enough that it'll pass a cursory inspection.
@treelineresearch3387
@treelineresearch3387 10 ай бұрын
Hilarious that they lasered off the markings from the controller chip but put the part number on the board silkscreen. Kinda makes me wonder if some of the laser-etched/sanded chips aren't blanked to hinder reverse engineering, but rather late-process reject chips from real manufacturers that get blanked on the production line to prevent resale as genuine but still make it into products in the "literally trash" end of the market.
@edtuckerartist
@edtuckerartist 10 ай бұрын
Sounds about right!
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 10 ай бұрын
Nice theory, haven't thought of that! I wonder if IC manufacturers would have to start physically breaking chips to avoid this happening, but then again dunno what they can do with rejects, in the industry nobody really throws anything away fully, it's all recycled in a way after all.
@catlover10192
@catlover10192 10 ай бұрын
​@Kalvinjj I know that some famous 80s home computer used a lot of semi-defective ran chips that were good enough for half the intended memory (obviously this memory lacks detail but I think I got what I did remember pretty correct)
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 10 ай бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head
@noth606
@noth606 10 ай бұрын
@@catlover10192 That is pretty standard, or was some years ago. Fabs would have one production line, and test the chips before etching, sort them based on working capacity and/or speed and then etch, and sell as different model number based on what they tested OK as.
@Trick-Framed
@Trick-Framed 10 ай бұрын
A few years back when a drive like this was $65 I found a 512GB Lexar SSD on Amazon for $35 shipped. I thought it was too good to be true but it was Amazon so I knew i'd get my money back and went for it. Turns out it was 100% legit and someone was dropping stock in a liquidation sale. I should have bought 10 of them. You win some. You lose some. I still use that drive to this very day as a test drive for PCs I assemble. And it still runs like a champ.
@RMED24
@RMED24 10 ай бұрын
Oh wow that's actually a crazy story. You really got a bargain with this one and it encourages me to possibly try and get a drive using this method. However, I would only recommend to those who actually know how to test these drives and wouldn't put anything important on them even if they show up okay
@Dante-420
@Dante-420 9 ай бұрын
​​@@RMED24it's always fun to do these things, but I like to keep in mind that it's more about the hobby than it is getting a good value. After all, the time spent making sure a drive is legit and works well could be spent on more profitable endeavors, and then you can use that extra money to buy reliable, warrantied drives!
@acmenipponair
@acmenipponair 9 ай бұрын
Meanwhile I tried a 2 TB SSD some days ago on Amazon, normal price - and it was a scam. Amazon is just crap they simply don't push out companies that scam...
@bertbrecht7540
@bertbrecht7540 10 ай бұрын
I was so glad to hear that you do file complaints and try to get your money back. Thanks for what you do!
@DarkDragonEWA
@DarkDragonEWA 10 ай бұрын
I don't know why, but even after all the storage device videos I've seen you make I still love watching this stuff. It's just fun seeing the different lengths they go to to make these things.
@charleshines2142
@charleshines2142 10 ай бұрын
It is nice to know what is there so that we can avoid buying them
@akierum
@akierum 10 ай бұрын
You would rather love selling those
@WhoLover
@WhoLover 10 ай бұрын
If I *can* buy an SSD that gives me better "security Sex" then I WILL buy that SSD.
@drumphil00
@drumphil00 7 ай бұрын
I'd pay 40 bucks for that! 😃
@MoisesCaster
@MoisesCaster 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 64GB flash drive, but it only had 128MB. I modified the firmware and now I have a 128MB flash drive. 😅
@Mizai
@Mizai 10 ай бұрын
I have a 32mb sd card
@Ametisti
@Ametisti 10 ай бұрын
My smallest is a 64MB MMC
@Ametisti
@Ametisti 10 ай бұрын
@@holycrapski OK, that's cool. Mine is from an old, long lost camera and just sits in my desk drawer XD
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm divided on those. On one hand you got a drive that works at a price appropriate for the size, on the other hand you still gave the scammer money. Of course unless you got your money back. Seen that with faked graphics cards. Flash them back to what they actually are, make a claim to get the money back, enjoy a free low-end backup card.
@sjococo
@sjococo 10 ай бұрын
@@Ametisti 512 KB pcmcia card...
@betoh2o
@betoh2o 9 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the enlightening video, I bought a HD SSD very similar to the one in the video promising to be 2 TB, but when I went to use it, I discovered that despite showing the capacity of 2 TB in Windows, it crashed whenever the amount of data exceeded 120 GB , the internal structure of my equipment is exactly the same as shown in the video. Thank you very much for clarifying our doubts.
@denny1527
@denny1527 10 ай бұрын
I recently bought a kodak branded 128GB ssd off aliexpress for £3. Interestingly, the pcb looks very similar to this one, the controller is also a realtek, and the flash chips also appear to have had the markings removed, though the difference is that the advertised capacity actually comes up in the testing. Not sure about the reliability as I know the chips might be used/low quality, but since I use it in my test PC with a throwaway Windows install for plugging in and testing random things, I don't really care if it suddenly dies.
@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung
@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung 10 ай бұрын
I miss Sunbow, I bought a 960GB SSD from them on Amazon, and it outperformed my Samsung QVO drive. But the following pay day, they were completely gone without a trace. Wish I'd bought two the first time instead of being sceptical.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 10 ай бұрын
I have the 1T 870 QVO and it's a filthy filthy drive, i absolutely hate it. Not only is spectacularly slow and causes system stalls during write, it also has a habit of falling off the SATA bus during warmboot. The falling off the bus is mostly relieved with new firmware, but i'm not sure if entirely. I'm so relieved to take it out of my PC and replace it with two TLC type Crucial drives. I don't know if you're missing much with Sunbow. There are several reputable Chinese brands which are alright-ish. Best case it's identical, worse case you find a scam where 3 out of 4 drives are good and one is a scam drive.
@mitabpraga7487
@mitabpraga7487 10 ай бұрын
Inevitable, I suppose. Thanks for the video, one more thing to warn my clients about. Especially the guy who 2 years ago gave me a €40 "1TB" flash drive to back up his stuff to, the guy who last year gave me a €50 "4TB" USB SSD for the purpose and the guy who I just know would get one of these tomorrow.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 10 ай бұрын
It's the usual "If it's too good to be true" situation.
@mitabpraga7487
@mitabpraga7487 10 ай бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudiosAbsolutely, but it can be a tough job telling some people that. Tell them to look at the general retail price of a 4TB SSD and some will just think the RP is a ripoff if they can get it for a quarter of that elsewhere. The flash drive guy, when I told him the bad news, told me he'd bought it off Amazon "so it must be ok" (I quote verbatim there), and took his flash drive to another techie saying I was trying to rip him off for the retail price of a 1 TB HDD and USB case. And that's despite the fact that I'm just a techie, I don't actually sell stuff...
@qxy_
@qxy_ 10 ай бұрын
I see smoorez, I click.
@charleshendrix3820
@charleshendrix3820 10 ай бұрын
Me too
@blueyabdl
@blueyabdl 10 ай бұрын
And me
@qxy_
@qxy_ 10 ай бұрын
Such a simple thing to do
@bluecarbon32
@bluecarbon32 10 ай бұрын
Indeed
@karwan6385
@karwan6385 10 ай бұрын
True.
@RyzesTechZone
@RyzesTechZone 10 ай бұрын
These obviously scam tech items are a guilty pleasure to watch. We all know its bullshit but seeing the stuff these scammers do to make it seem legit is so interesting
@johnruschmeyer5769
@johnruschmeyer5769 10 ай бұрын
A couple of years ago, I fell for this basic scam on a 1TB drive from an ebay seller. In my case, the usable capacity was something just north of 64GB. I ended up finding a flashing tool on a Russian site that let me flash it to be a 64GB drive. I only use it for light duty, but it seems to operate with no issues.
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 10 ай бұрын
I wish there was a way to re-flash the card back to being recognized as 120GB. If it worked as intended, it might actually be useful rather than just being E-waste.
@pacman10182
@pacman10182 10 ай бұрын
there is, he went over it
@endurofurry
@endurofurry 10 ай бұрын
You can its not that hard, you do it when you format it!
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 10 ай бұрын
@@endurofurry I'm not so sure of it, because a 256GB SD card i got from Temu (as a christmas gift, no less) became unreadable after i tried to format it fully. It just broke 75% into the process, lagged my PC and was unrecognized afterwards. Only with a recovery software i could even look at the thing as it popped in and out of existance, which is when i found out it was a spoofed SD card with stats written in by hand, but nothing i could do made it readable or able to be formatted.
@endurofurry
@endurofurry 10 ай бұрын
@@DarkestVampire92 maybe a different brand, i was talking about the ones used in this video. i personally have a couple. i buy them here and there for cheap boot drives for testing rigs and file transfers. to freinds as im not worried about getting it back. i even have one in the pc that just runs crome and VLC for media veiwing. its been in there for over 3 years and it runs 24 hours a day with no isues. My only thing is the morality of buying these in the first place and suporting the scam even know i know what im getting.
@tomtube1012
@tomtube1012 10 ай бұрын
Seems like a lot of work to recover 10GB. Just use it as a 110 GB drive. Create a 110 GB partition and you should be able to avoid the "crash" part of the drive.
@foxmulder4560
@foxmulder4560 10 ай бұрын
Security sex is fairly new technology, that's impressive tech.
@supergeekjay
@supergeekjay 10 ай бұрын
It's where different security protocols come together. Two become one and all that. :)
@tubevolts
@tubevolts 10 ай бұрын
@@supergeekjay Me: DoH! She: ssh
@joeceretti9098
@joeceretti9098 10 ай бұрын
I have a "16TB" "Portable SSD" USB Drive from them... I popped it open.. inside is a USB > MicroSD card reader and a 64mb Card and everything inside it is hot glued together inside of a piece of aluminum extrusion that normally would be used for Patio Table legs. I have to give it to them for be resourceful. Just all ruined by the fraud and deception.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 10 ай бұрын
I actually wouldn't mind some unmodified (not ruined by faking capacity) small capacity SD-Cards. To use for old cameras, 3D printer etc.
@MonochromeWench
@MonochromeWench 10 ай бұрын
If the controller is a standard part the flashing tool is likely available somewhere on the internet probably on some sketchy looking russian site for hardware hackers. The flashing tool will let you specify the flash chip configuration among other internal parameters and even the sata model number you want the device to appear as to the computer.
@Duckers_McQuack
@Duckers_McQuack 3 ай бұрын
I bought a 2TB micro sd for 6 bucks once for kicks. It was a super plain 32GB one with a poorly made samsung looking thin sheet of plastic glued on top of it, and glued as in i can see the disgusting spilled glue scraped away on the sides lol. It failed past 32GB. It had a write speed of 7MB's iirc, and read of 27. told ali, and got my money back, and that store terminated.
@jurgenkruger3932
@jurgenkruger3932 2 ай бұрын
Funny, you can get also all parts and tools to make your own fake SSD drives! 😂
@cameramaker
@cameramaker 10 ай бұрын
I would try to make a 96 GB partition and try the H2TestW again (multiple times) - either it will work, or not, depends on where the capacity was faked and how resilient is the wear levelling. If it will work, it should just report lot of damaged cells (above capacity), as long as the untrimmed space stays smaller than the total NAND capacity.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 10 ай бұрын
Could this be defective device 'recycling'? Because why would they do any extra effort for a scam product? It realistically won't take long for a buyer of a 4 TB drive to realize it's rotten. They could just as well shipped a case with no PCB in it. And why remove the controller labeling? Some kind of serial number traceability?
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 10 ай бұрын
Serial no but there's a batch identification on ICs indeed - week and year code, facility code and some top secret rolling codes. If you have one device, you might not know exactly but if you have a few dozen, the IC manufacturer and counterfeit experts can trace them.
@notsoseagatey
@notsoseagatey 2 ай бұрын
They tried hard to imitate a WD, how nice
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 10 ай бұрын
5:15: So many fake certificates. I doubt that the CE sign is real. And I don't think that this had a safety inspection by TÜV Rheinland, either.
@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG
@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG 10 ай бұрын
I'm OK with you doing more storage vids; go nuts...I'll watch.
@Armgedown
@Armgedown 10 ай бұрын
Use the current version of the HDS, otherwise that old version from 2015 does not recognize new ssds correctly. Because of this shows 80% for the performance.
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258 10 ай бұрын
The program teracopy can verify data you copy to a drive. It will show data errors.
@ErraticPT
@ErraticPT 10 ай бұрын
Beware even if this drive could be flashed back to its true capacity the chips used for storage are often old ones ripped from used drives. So they would soon fail anyhow. The scammers are also doing this with drives that are actually the rated capacity (ie a 4 TB that is 4 TB) but often have multiple makes/models of heavily used chips on a single board. Certainly wouldn't trust any data to them!
@supergeekjay
@supergeekjay 10 ай бұрын
It's the same as some scam companies selling old hard drives as new by wiping the SMART data and re-labelling (SONNICS is a company on eBay that do this). They look perfectly new until you hit errors.
@hmklegend2791
@hmklegend2791 10 ай бұрын
Yay, another SMOOREZ video, this made my day better😊
@fearbot69
@fearbot69 10 ай бұрын
I enjoy getting fake storage devices in my hands because it's super fun when it's possible for me to re-flash firmware and change the "real" name of the drives that the computer sees. This drive could be some fun if it was a bit cheaper, would love to see if those extra NAND spots work.
@g4z-kb7ct
@g4z-kb7ct 10 ай бұрын
The extra locations could be populated but if you're going to do that then just get one of the SSD pcbs that dosdude designed and make your own proper drive with known good parts.
@joebates8659
@joebates8659 10 ай бұрын
The description is hilarious... What is "higher data transmission security Sex? LOL
@Truthorshit
@Truthorshit 5 ай бұрын
Thnx for the test program G!
@Kennephone
@Kennephone 10 ай бұрын
When I first saw this I thought "for that price you can get a real 1TB SSD", and then after he showed the price of the real one, I double checked and WOW have the prices gone up, nearly double on the low end in just a couple months.
@corbinangelo3359
@corbinangelo3359 6 ай бұрын
These scam ssd's are still all over Aliexpress. Why does Ali allow companies to sell them when its obviously a total rip off?
@Rybagz
@Rybagz 10 ай бұрын
SSDs will usually not perform as well in a USB enclosure vs SATA in AHCI mode. 550 Meg/second is about the best to expect in any case, you never hit the top speed likely to latency in command processing and data fetching etc. I've had 2 people recently tell me they got amazing deals on 2 and 4 TB USB flashdrives and I've replied with the bad news that it's 99.9% chance they've been scammed and it's just a smaller drive with a controller hack to make it look bigger.
@leucome
@leucome 10 ай бұрын
Unless maybe they got the Team Group QX. The 4tb went on sale for something like $170 USD in some region. I am under the impression that they have overstock of 2.5 ssd because a lot of people get Nvme drive nowadays.
@id4spam
@id4spam 10 ай бұрын
@@leucome On the last Amazon Prime Day 2023 in Germany, Amazon had 4TB Transcend 2.5-inch SSDs on offer for 151 euros and 4TB Samsung 870 EVO 2.5-inch for 172 euros.
@mobileplayers5008
@mobileplayers5008 10 ай бұрын
Well said man. Always be cautious on what u buying.
@mmmihai1384
@mmmihai1384 10 ай бұрын
i saw that ssd, but i never thought about it.Thank you for verifying the ssd
@shanethrelfall416
@shanethrelfall416 10 ай бұрын
Skip the rambling? The rambling is why I’m here 😂👌🏼👍🏼❤️
@nickwood8694
@nickwood8694 10 ай бұрын
I have the same HP laptop as you, but the core i7 model. Now thats pretty cool
@g4z-kb7ct
@g4z-kb7ct 10 ай бұрын
3:00 you missed the best part. 'no moving parts' but with anti-vibration support that a SSD doesn't need haha!
@SylvesterAshcroft88
@SylvesterAshcroft88 10 ай бұрын
I remember seeing these on amazon, and ebay a little while ago, before a lot of them got pulled down, but it's surprising how common these kind of scams are.
@lentas4921
@lentas4921 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for good videos ❤
@SMOOREZ
@SMOOREZ 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! Thank you :)
@Sashko_Dee
@Sashko_Dee 10 ай бұрын
I did manage to snag a 2TB TLC Lexar SATA drive (LNS100-2TRBNA) directly from Amazon US for $62 USD this summer so the scam prices aren't shit honkingly insane, but still too good to be true.
@Syntax.error.
@Syntax.error. 10 ай бұрын
Hoofddorp is next to the Amsterdam airport where many giant companies have shell offices inside of The Netherlands for low tax reasons. This address points to one of these random office building with tons of international businesses that only collect mail from there and nobody is working.
@BlueScreenOfDead
@BlueScreenOfDead 10 ай бұрын
ANY idiot can use fake stickers and say, its made in xx country
@ejonesss
@ejonesss 10 ай бұрын
a small board in an enclosure is to be expected in ssd. they could make enclosure half size but there would be no way to mount and secure it to prevent it moving. the real size factor scam comes from when they claim hundreds of tb in the same dimensions witch can come from a sd card paralleling card that can take several sd cards and adapt them to sata and raid them into 1 big size.
@s14tam
@s14tam 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for clearing up this scam!
@Lazyman1975
@Lazyman1975 10 ай бұрын
So tired of scammers... I got a 1tb flash drive for Christmas that was bought because people don't know... F3 probe in linux tells me its a 512 gb but it does this same data loss at like 110 gb..... Only thing I want from scammers is phone calls as I will waste their time as long as I can.... Its kinda enjoyable listening to them get frustrated....lol
@jiggybucksington
@jiggybucksington 10 ай бұрын
I got caught with this a few years ago. Was a 1tb for $25. Weird part was it’s actually a real ssd. Just not a 1tb ssd was a 120gb ssd. They also have an nvme 1tb scam drive too that’s the same thing. I installed windows on it. The second it reached capacity it did nothing but blue screen and couldn’t be used anymore. Real size was 64gb
@irishdingus9430
@irishdingus9430 10 ай бұрын
Smoorez is a real gem. I binged ashens channel to bits and now I’m enjoying everything smoorez posts. Thank you for existing!
@jingarjay8754
@jingarjay8754 10 ай бұрын
These realtek chipsets on this board is actually not so bad, i had a legitimate 120gb one with Intel TLC NAND that actually works great. Assuming these suspiciously sourced NAND chips arent full of bad blocks, the firmware could be easily modified to appear as a real 120gb SSD
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 10 ай бұрын
But it's still overpriced. There's any number of reputable Chinese brands which will give you a genuine 500G SSD for less, and 120/240 capacity cost barely nothing, people don't buy them much. I remember i bought a Kingspec i don't know 32 or 64 which was enough to upgrade a first gen Atom netbook to Linux, nearly 10 years ago now, and it cost me barely nothing, and that company is still around; major companies simply didn't feel it was worth it to them to make such a price reduced product, and yeah it's a real SSD, not some weird contraption. Since then of course several other decent Chinese brands popped up - wouldn't choose them over Crucial for my PC, ultimately at comparable specs and capacities the price difference isn't at all large, but they're fair enough to just fill out your devices with necessities.
@toonman361
@toonman361 10 ай бұрын
I would not trust a no-name SSD of questionable origin and quality to store anything, no matter how cheap.
@drxym
@drxym 10 ай бұрын
I remember when I had a PSP and bought a memory stick from Amazon that turned out to be a fake. Since then I absolutely will not buy any storage device from any store except the brand manufacturer or a reputable provider. And Amazon, Aliexpress and their ilk are not reputable providers given that they're making money from this scam and the number of refunds they eventually issue must be a tiny fraction of the cash they rake in. It's not even worth the grief.
@grahamek86
@grahamek86 10 ай бұрын
5:43 HELLOOOORRRRRRRRR
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... 10 ай бұрын
Aliexpress is great if you are willing to think.
@gabest4
@gabest4 10 ай бұрын
Similar scam has been going on with LTO tapes. You can buy a 15TB tape and it only has 6TB capacity!!! How can they get away with that. Aliexpress sellers should add "4TB compressed" with very small letters, maybe.
@Dark.Shingo
@Dark.Shingo 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. Are these ever recoverable? Like, being able to make them work in their original capacity at least? Not that it would be desirable, but just as an exercise.
@Hex05
@Hex05 10 ай бұрын
Probably can cut off the chip feeding the fake info but you'd have to locate it to do so
@moth.monster
@moth.monster 10 ай бұрын
If you just create a partition of the correct size, it should work.
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 10 ай бұрын
@@moth.monster That is a good point.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 10 ай бұрын
@@moth.monster No, it doesn't work, since the full flash capacity is still aliased several times, so when flash controller writes to one flash location, it actually pops up in a bunch of repeat locations. The full drive capacity will be used for wear levelling. You really need to reprogram it for actual flash capacity.
@MrStanopolak
@MrStanopolak 10 ай бұрын
12:32 hmmm suika ibuki seems to be a rather peculiar name indeed :,D
@the2323guy
@the2323guy 10 ай бұрын
she donates for more drinking games
@WaaSoph
@WaaSoph 9 ай бұрын
First time viewing one of your videos. Time stamps etc. made it fun to watch. Imo the bright yellow/blue text in your video thumbnails are hurting your views. Maybe 10 years ago they wouldn't be mistaken for spam/AI content but nowadays I think people tend to stay away from those.
@CanizaM
@CanizaM 4 ай бұрын
I did a bit more searching and from the details that others have posted of what looks like the same drive, those are Micron B17A 512Gbit (64GB) 64L 3D TLC flashes, reject quality (below SpecTek rebrand) based on their markings being crossed out. The bright side is that you might be able to reflash this SSD firmware to use them in SLC mode, getting a ~40GB SLC SSD that is far less likely to lose data, which for $40 is... not bad.
@klotz__
@klotz__ 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! I found these on aliexpress as well but couldn't see how their scam works. Now I know.
@Xamiakass
@Xamiakass 10 ай бұрын
it is weird how 8 months ago, i bought the 4tb ssd... yes, sata not m.2(though, they were literally same priced at the time for same capacity) on amazon for 180 british pounds. how exactly did it go up in price? i went for 870 evo. almost half a year later for old tech, i'm expected to pay 220 or about 20% more? for aging tech? samsung ssd's suck a nut... 4tb samsung sata ssd equaled to 3.27tb on windows, before the OP.
@startreck9204
@startreck9204 7 ай бұрын
It should go down in price, with the advance of technology. I brought brands like goldenfir, kingspec with 940GB in aliexpress for less than $50, filled them with my files and working fine for now.
@Xamiakass
@Xamiakass 7 ай бұрын
@@startreck9204 it should've... yet it went up... annoying.
@JohnVance
@JohnVance 10 ай бұрын
Great vid! Plot twist: These companies now subsist entirely on selling crapware to YouTubuers for content creation!
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 10 ай бұрын
Those laser scrubbed markings are such a Chinese classic, always the same. The funniest is that they do it with any form of scam, including IP theft products they clone out of good products, so that other's won't reverse engineer their own clones. So yes, they steal, but don't want you stealing back. THAT'S wrong!
@RaduTek
@RaduTek 10 ай бұрын
Wondering if they could've used an SD Card to SATA adapter board and put a fake SD card in that. I have an SD to laptop IDE board that I use in an old laptop and they work quite decently with cheap but legit cards.
@sihamhamda47
@sihamhamda47 10 ай бұрын
It would perform much much worse and the worst case, it can't be used as boot drive. I have a legit Sandisk Ultra 128GB SD card that is rated 90MB/s transfer speed, but even with that the speed drops to below 30MB/s when I copy anything larger than 250MB to the SD card
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 10 ай бұрын
@@sihamhamda47Depends a bit on how the drive identifies. I have a stick that has the bit set to be seen as external hard drive, so it can be booted from. My other sticks got the removable media bit and can't be booted.
@relklarsen
@relklarsen 10 ай бұрын
That is how most of these fake SSD's work actually. When you pop them open,. you usually see an SD card with a SATA adapter connected to it.
@ruben_balea
@ruben_balea 10 ай бұрын
With the 4 NAND chips it may reach the 500 MB/S A couple months ago I shut down my desktop and the next day it wasn't even beeping or showing the BIOS/POST screen, it was turning itself off after 4 or 5 seconds as if something was really bad, I was already thinking about a fried VRM but in the end the culprit was a 480GB Intel Enterprise class SATA SSD. I wasn't aware a SATA drive could prevent a motherboard from booting at all. It also prevented USB to SATA enclosures and converters from being detected.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 10 ай бұрын
I wonder, that sounds like a possible MLCC short fault, a pretty easy repair if it's that. Shunting something hard, not just not responding properly.
@ruben_balea
@ruben_balea 10 ай бұрын
@@SianaGearz It could be but I scrapped the drive... It was an Intel drive with a Dell "Enterprise Class" logo, I haven't looked at what Dell means by that, but I have many WD Green hard drives and some that have around 60k hours started to report reallocated sectors but I didn't lose any data, all of the unstable sectors were recoverable and I was able to make backups, on the other hand I had a pair of WD Gold "Enterprise Class" and both died suddenly around 20k hours without reporting any SMART errors before... So by "Enterprise Class" it seems to me they mean overpriced drives for businesses that have backup tape drives instead of higher quality drives 🙄
@Veta_YT
@Veta_YT 10 ай бұрын
The greatest SMOOREZisian that has ever lived.
@stay.in.school.
@stay.in.school. 10 ай бұрын
TEMU unboxing videos is the new hot sauce.
@rodentartmouse
@rodentartmouse 10 ай бұрын
Happy New year🎉
@t8polestarcyan22
@t8polestarcyan22 3 ай бұрын
Give or take, do or die, there are time you gotta give things a go and remember which brands can work for you. Back then I used to trust Seagate for hard drives, then Western Digital. Basically things can change. Getting a 4TB SSD for $40 is obviously the one I should really avoid. If I can get a decent quality at a very good deal then yes I can go for as long as I am aware of detailed yet simple specifications.
@soniclab-cnc
@soniclab-cnc 10 ай бұрын
Clever logo. Nice. Subtle "DOOM"
@5argetech56
@5argetech56 10 ай бұрын
Smoorez without the gooey mess. Just scam busting goodness. 💯😊
@TingFeng77
@TingFeng77 10 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity I decided to check the serial number printed on the drive on WD's site It corrosponds to a WD Green 240GB, but of an older model The warranty is still good until 17 Jan 2025
@SummonerArthur
@SummonerArthur 10 ай бұрын
I've had walram's official store sell me two of these. They charged me what would be the normal price a 500gb ssd goes for on aliexpress, but they sent me that thing, except mine had 4 chips instead of 2 like yours. I've kept trying to use it while only filling about 64gb, but after some time its read/write speeds bsecame slower than 1mbps and I've decided to test my bbgun on one of them. If youfigure a way toflash the firmware, please do a video on it. I'd like to see the process. Since then, I've started to buy netac and netac only products.
@MsUltrafox
@MsUltrafox 10 ай бұрын
WD does have an office in Hoofddorp but NOT on that address. Also, the street name on that SSD is spelled wrong (like so many other things)
@hawkkim1974
@hawkkim1974 10 ай бұрын
i bought a 500GB SSD from Aliexpress at a cheap price. I guess I paid something like $16. It works better than expected.
@Keinapappa
@Keinapappa 10 ай бұрын
How am I not surprised.
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@_DML_
@_DML_ 10 ай бұрын
Definitely open up a dispute about it.
@PhilXavierSierraJones
@PhilXavierSierraJones 10 ай бұрын
SATA SSD scams? That's a new one.
@TUUK2006
@TUUK2006 10 ай бұрын
Hope you've got solid security on your network with installing dodgy Chinese storage devices onto any of your machines.
@tech_and_stuff_2022
@tech_and_stuff_2022 10 ай бұрын
9:01; Is this an ad? I'm not sure if it's "the user of Vertyanov Devices"
@SMOOREZ
@SMOOREZ 10 ай бұрын
No not an ad, just where I found the info for the board and all that.
@gaeshows1938
@gaeshows1938 10 ай бұрын
A proper 4tb tlc nvme only costs about $200 these days
@miqotelover
@miqotelover 10 ай бұрын
Great content, and editing, wishing you get a ton more subbers in 2024! :D
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 10 ай бұрын
Computers, "security sex" SSDs...Rule 34?
@basbas63
@basbas63 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact is, that WD company and address is real. Am from The Netherlands & have a genuine 4TB WD red SATA SSD, that company/address is written on it.
@OldGameAcc
@OldGameAcc 9 ай бұрын
Didn't expect a real ssd at all
@getprobed838
@getprobed838 2 ай бұрын
the profit margin in scamming people is much higher than in doing legitimate business
@eiriseven
@eiriseven 10 ай бұрын
Hey Smoorez, seen your disclaimer about stolen footage, have you considered having some words on your desk like "scam" "debunk" or "fake" to discourage this?
@mikigameplays
@mikigameplays 10 ай бұрын
I am sure they are just re-selling very old ssd that are 128gb that are like maybe 10$ or so and making some money back, nothing new really. At least its really ssd ahahaa
@danmar007
@danmar007 8 ай бұрын
Last year, I saw a ITB internal SSD for $20 on Amazon. It was tempting. :-)
@ESNDRE
@ESNDRE 10 ай бұрын
$40 for 120gb hahahahahahaha
@app0the
@app0the 10 ай бұрын
This looks like a board out of a legit KingSpec 128G drive I bought off alix back in 2013. Make what you want of it but they've been the lifesavers when I needed a PATA (not SATA) SSD because they were the only ones making such monstrosities. The capacity was also spot on normally, at least so long as it was a legit KingSpec drive and not stuck into a knockoff box and reprogrammed by someone to pretend it's much more than what it is.
@g4z-kb7ct
@g4z-kb7ct 10 ай бұрын
PATA means 2.5" IDE. Using that interface with a SSD wouldn't give any better speed than a spinning hdd. I don't think anyone ever made any 2.5" IDE SSD drives back in the day when PATA was active so that's likely a chinese knock-off made much later with some other extra middle-man chip doing the interfacing between the controller chip and the pata interface. I think SMOOREZ needs to get one and do a review and speed test. We need to know! ;-)
@app0the
@app0the 10 ай бұрын
@@g4z-kb7ct pretty sure there was no intermediate chip, but it did feel indeed like taping a toy rocket to a turtle. The machine was a fanless Omnibook and thus became completely dead silent with the mod though, so it was pretty surreal and nice for the specific use case I had (GUS music player through an ISA docking station)
@86ericg
@86ericg 2 ай бұрын
That company need to be sue for scam
@jurgenkruger3932
@jurgenkruger3932 2 ай бұрын
The Chinese government is proud about them, so nothing happens to them.
@Boogie_the_cat
@Boogie_the_cat 10 ай бұрын
Hoofdorp muffukaz in da house!!!! Hopfdorp 4 life muffuka!! Hoofdorp krew be da tuffest muffukazzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, beeyotcheez-whiz
@αφυπνισμένος
@αφυπνισμένος 9 ай бұрын
Same as a "SAMSUNG 2TB" from eBay. The disk after 112 GB died completely. No format recovery was possible. At least I got a full refund.
@TommyCrosby
@TommyCrosby 10 ай бұрын
Just like USB drives, you shouldn't ever plug a scam SSD, just in case you have another kind of "surprise"...
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 10 ай бұрын
Especially not into any system with data you want to keep. Better have a dedicated scamcheck system.
@dancingwiththedogsdj
@dancingwiththedogsdj 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your videos and this is NOT a complaint, but when someone says "if it's too good to be true, it probably isn't..." I don't know anymore what falls into that category... like sooooo many scams or unfounded claims are always going to be out there, but it's hard to tell what is within a good "deal" VS just a straight up scam. Thank you for all you do, but would it be possible to maybe put a few things that are legitimate or maybe make a video on the current prices for similar good products? I hope that makes sense. Have a great day!! ❤
@ShadowManceri
@ShadowManceri 10 ай бұрын
It's rather easy. If it comes from China, it is a scam. There are no "hidden gems" or things to look for. They are all scams. Buy legit brands instead.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 10 ай бұрын
If a reputable well-known seller gives you a deep discount on a known good product, that's normally good. But with storage in particular that basically never happens, the discounts are maybe 20% tops, because it's so much of a commodity. Like you can't build a drive of a given capacity much cheaper than what one by any reputable brand costs, and overstock disappears quickly even with relatively small discounts, they don't have to struggle to clear the shelves.
@dancingwiththedogsdj
@dancingwiththedogsdj 10 ай бұрын
@@SianaGearz I understand, but that's the hard part (for me at least) just trying to usually find a good deal on something and all. And I get it about "if it sounds too good to be true..." but that's also kinda silly because I think we've all gone into a Wal-Mart, Target, etc and end up finding something on sale/clearance for like 80 - 90% off and it's just because it didn't sell well or something so a legitimate item and all. I ain't trying to argue or anything.... just pointing stuff out and asking questions whenever I can. 😄 Have a wonderful day and all!
@skayqz
@skayqz 9 ай бұрын
Nice playbutton :)))
@allenrusselljr
@allenrusselljr 10 ай бұрын
Have you ever done a return ? Just to see how they react and what they say? I was expecting the micro sd setup inside. Thanks for the entertainment
@jacianmcgurk7424
@jacianmcgurk7424 10 ай бұрын
As Del Boy once said, What are you expecting for 40 dollars? LOL
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