Falken WildPeak AT3W VS AT4W - Is it Worse in Snow Now? TOTALLY DIFFERENT TIRE!

[@OutdoorAuto]

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[@pl1532]

Based on your analysis, it sounds like Falken should have retained both tires, since they are for different applications.

[@TacoRancher]

@@OutdoorAuto In the garage, I turned to my wife and said “do you smell those new tires? I love that smell. When that smell is gone I will be tempted to buy new ones”.. she thinks I’m mentally ill 😂

[@adarngoodjoe4043]

Regarding the design lines around the tire bead, this is straight from the Rubitrek A/T page about those lines: TOWING SUPPORT AND STABILITY Heat diffuser technology in the lower sidewall dissipates heat to protect the internal tire components. Keeping this critical area of the tire cool ensures vehicle stability even when towing or carrying heavy loads.

[@leventbuda2294]

Whick is better for rubicon at4w lt or sd in offroad and winter sonwy days on road

[@pl1532]

@@leventbuda2294 Having used both On Nissan Xterra and Lexus GX 460, I would opt for 10 ply 3W's if you can still find them. Better all around tire for your vehicle weight. 4W's are noticeably heavier and better suited for heavier vehicles, towing heavy loads and offroad ranch work, etc.

[@jaymoar3561]

I’m not even looking for new tires but I watch your tire reviews because you are just that good at making them.

[@Relyk711]

2nd. The man puts in the good work. Definitely missed your videos in that little hiatus last year.

[@manwithnoname734]

Same. I just got tires and wanted falkens but they didn't make them in the size I wanted so I went with toyo

[@jamessilasiri9626]

Same. My wife thinks I'm nuts for having a KZbin feed full of tire reviews. 😂

[@PRV392]

@@manwithnoname734what size were you looking for?

[@manwithnoname734]

@@PRV392 255/75r17. All they make in that size is the MT.

[@roamwithchase]

Would love to see a comparison between the Baja Boss A/T, Falken Wildpeak AT4W, Toyo Open Country AT3, and the Bfgoodrich KO3

[@DB.KOOPER]

BFG or Falken, the other brands are basically garbage, especially Toyos'.. 40+ years of 4wd guiding and WIlderness EMS/SAR/Firefighting experience in trucks and engines not to mention my own stable of Toyota 4wd's... BFG has always been my go-to but the Falkens are a worthy competitor in the AT market. I would never run anything but those two.

[@Thirteen7447]

@@DB.KOOPER I beg to differ! My Toyo AT3's have been great in just about every situation I've been in especially in rain and I've had them for 4 YEARS (or 77k) miles with so much more to go! Never been in snow but I've seen great reviews on snow.

[@egregiousblunder5395]

@@Thirteen7447 Gotta leave the pavement lol.

[@Thirteen7447]

@@egregiousblunder5395 ???

[@HSwest1]

@@DB.KOOPERran all but falken. MT Baja boss A/T best I’ve had and this AT4 has copied a lot of MT Baja.

[@CKKnifeandTool]

We got the A/T3w for my wife’s JEEP Cherokee Trailhawk and she says it’s day and night compared to the BF she had on it. Absolutely great for our Wyoming weather and commuting (She doesn’t off road or overland in hers). I ran General Grabbers for 5 yrs on my Titan and had almost 50k on them (on/off road) and we’re still holding a good tread. Now I’m shopping for my RAM 2500 and may just have to give these A/T4w’s a shot. The pros to running a diesel 3/4 ton is the tires will have almost no effect on my mpg. Thanks Nate.

[@Jackkamerun]

how about your first experience?

[@jordantrujillo293]

We just put these to the test last night and this morning here in Denver. We got up to 8inchs of heavy wet snow, which was mostly frozen this morning. I was truly impressed with how good they were, I wasn’t sure what to expect being a whole new tire.

[@jaykickliter]

Thanks for the report. I live in Manitou Springs, and I’m having a terrible experience in these conditions with my current tires (Nitto Terra Grappler). Pretty please, report back after a couple thaw/freeze cycles and the snow crusts up

[@Radicalwillie]

Ditto, Standard Load "P" AT4W's on my Tacoma here in Denver as well, testing in rain/snow/ice this weekend. Tire kicks butt, no regrets on my decision to purchase this tire.

[@SE7ENinc1]

I'm struggling hard deciding between the AT4w vs the new KO3s. I think it's gonna come down to timing. Doing White Rim Road March 1st so the KO3s will be hard to find. I've had great luck with my old at3w. But the new added weight in version 4 is making me nervous. Pure beef sidewalls are extremely tempting.

[@TedEischeid1960]

White Rim isn’t that extreme. My KO2s handled it easily. Don’t see any issues with almost any AT tire.

[@Worthrhetime]

Living in the foothills. Off of a road off of a road . In the winter Blizzaaks

[@TacoRancher]

I sincerely love that you’re attuned to tire smells. I respect a true tire geek!

[@forrestmarsh8787]

I never considered myself an expert on tires but I thought I had a good understanding of the science of it all. The amount I just learned about the nuance of tread design is appreciated.

[@aarontheidinut8926]

agreed 💯

[@christinel6325]

The AT3w has gotten so much praise I'm surprised they redesigned it! It's moderate winter capabilities were a huge bonus for me here in Alberta. Thanks for providing us with such informative videos!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks for watching... I agree, I was surprised how much they changed it... but as a business decision I kind of understand the market they are going after... they will still have 2 ply options and none HD options... but its definitely a bit heavier design.

[@GT-mn3bx]

In California we get 10 foot dumps and almost 900 inches per year. I'd have preferred they open the tread 1/8 inch and call it a day.

[@thrimebolt]

900 inches per year is crazy I’ve lived in Tahoe my whole life and we average maybe 400-500 inches per year. But have big dumps.

[@GT-mn3bx]

@@thrimebolt Last year you had 700-800 around there. Not at lake level but still a ton.

[@akelkhunter]

Gut feeling between these and the MT Baja Boss? I will be needing tires in a couple months and was down to the Baja Boss or the AT3. Now the AT4.

[@JBambiMish]

Bought these for my 4runner. First thing i did was test them off road and then take a trip through a snow storm in Tahoe. They do great in the snow. Was able to do 50 mph comfortably in about 6 inches of packed snow on the highway. And had trouble braking it loose to drift around in the parking lots at the summit. So for it has been a fantastic tire.

[@bgomez3]

How would you rate the noise level on your new AT4W on the highway?

[@JBambiMish]

@bgomez3 Pretty quiet. I dont really notice the noise at all. I do notice the weight of the tire now. It is a very heavy tire. I have probably lost 1-2 mpg on average. I also got the 10 ply version though.

[@DogTownRiverRat]

@jbambiMish, just curious, why did you go with a 10 ply tire for a 4Runner? I’ve got a 4Runner as well.

[@JBambiMish]

@DogTownRiverRat rocky terriain out here in the Las Vegas are. Just wanted something a bit tougher. Also i think the price was almost the same.

[@eriknash8783]

Toyota Tacoma and 4Runner are like cheating in the snow. My 18 year old Tacoma with Yokohama Geolander all season tires are unreal in snow. Toyotas just excel in snow

[@daveg7498]

I recently retired from Sumitomo Tire in Buffalo and the Wildpeaks were a big seller!Best thing about working there was the discounts we got on a set of tires. Those Wildpeaks Cost me $700 for a set! Can't go wrong on Falkens!

[@Kylewraps]

My at4 Falkens get horrible mpg I’m taking 13.5 city 17.5 hwy on a 33” tire Nitro ridge grappler > Cooper > Falken

[@Icutmetal]

@@sierrapeaks8838They were field tested in the UP of Michigan.

[@Squat5000]

Worst thing about working there was that the defect rate was about 8 times higher than foreign plants, labor costs were much higher, and the only time the union ever bothers to assist with corrective issues is when they threaten to close the plant. Best thing SRNA could do would be to close the buffalo plant if we dont get it together. 😀 There are a number of reasons why the best tires come out of the Thailand plants.

[@daveg7498]

@@Squat5000 "If we dont get it together" Sounds like a union member lol

[@daveg7498]

@@Kylewraps what were you getting MPG before the Falkens? What size?

[@codychilders8307]

Excellent video. I had the AT3W for 80k miles. CUPPED bad the last 15 or so, but was the best tire I had in the rain.. bar none.

[@OutdoorAuto]

They really nailed Wet road traction for sure.

[@egarant57]

According to the Falken Tire website, the AT4W is available in 98 different sizes, only 18 have the 3 ply Duraspec badge. I called Falken and they said ONLY the Duraspec labeled tires are 3 ply, all the rest are 2 ply…..check your tire size!

[@ChadGerstmeyer-vr1sg]

Then theres Duraspec vs HD Duraspec. Wonder what the HD gets you? The HD is very heavy.

[@dbriggs1689]

The HD is listed as lighter in weight. The E rated 285 75 17 is .5 pounds lighter than the C rated tire.

[@eugene7890]

What the Duraspec badge and where is it located?? My tire size is 275/65R 18

[@Sandblaster221]

I just installed a new set of LT295/60-20 AT4Ws a couple of weeks back, marking my debut with Falken tires. A recent heavy snowfall provided the perfect winter testing ground. Although I can't draw a direct comparison to the AT3Ws, the traction seems to match or surpass my previous experiences with Duratracs in the snow. These tires also look amazing.

[@treznev.v2]

How’s the repot? Snow driving still work out great? Thinking of putting these on my van

[@noosh8316]

Kudos. This was the most thorough review of the new AT4W that I have seen yet. Great video 👍

[@ThatPNWlyfe]

I have a F250 with the AT3W’s which I love for our wet snowy rainy crappy winters in the Pacific Northwest. I am bummed that the new Tire is worse in rain and snow. That was the biggest reason I chose them. I will definitely be looking at other brands now.

[@PRV392]

They definitely improved performance for wet and snow. That is what made the original AT3W sell so well so they’re not going to sacrifice that. There is more siping and has actually been improved with the new version especially with the larger tread blocks.

[@ThatPNWlyfe]

@@PRV392 did you watch the video? Rain & snow performance are lower with the at4w

[@juhoukkola2306]

​@@PRV392 larger blocks are worse in snow and rain. Instead of "cutting through" to the surface, those tend to float on top.

[@PRV392]

@@ThatPNWlyfe Falken has already been testing the past few years on 1/2 ton and 1 ton applications in severe conditions and have reported a slight improvement in snow and better traction in wet for heavier 1 tons, but on par with a/t3w for lighter 1/2 tons. I can even pull up their data testing vs competitors.

[@richardpowell1389]

Looks like Falken went in the opposite direction of BFG. BFG went slightly more road biased on the ko3's Falken went slightly more off-road biased with with the at4w.

[@HITMAN934]

The inner design is for getting rid of heat. I run the AT3W’s on my wrangler and you can smell that rubber heating up with the windows down on the highway in the summer. I love the real aggressive look of these AT4W’s, but the AT3W is exactly what I want. Off road capability with great performance in wet conditions. We get a lot of snow, rain, and ice here and they perform awesome,

[@metalphobos3632]

How are they for just road driving? I'm about to make a purchase and between 6-7 types of tires I'm leaning the most towards the at3.

[@shootinglaser]

The fact that Falken offers an A/T in 255/85/16 @ a great price is the reason I'm getting them. Currently running ATW3's in a 265/75 & love them.

[@kevinstarski1598]

I'm the same size...I was surprised to see the 33 inch tire, but ultimately due to possible regearing issues, worse gas mileage due to being taller and more stress on tranny, I may just go with the stock size Baja Boss AT, which weighs the same as the tall Falken, but it's superior tire by most accounts. My truck just won't be higher, only con

[@etb4272]

I just picked up a set in this exact size because it is the only good AT available in that size. Coming from 285/75r16 KO2s and my immediate impression is they are a lot quieter and smoother on the road. Less resistance when I turn the wheel too. I think some of that is just new vs worn out tires, but I do think the skinnier tire has less resistance and the C load range is just more compliant. I have yet to take them off road though yet.

[@Russianmafia10]

I have 285/75/R16s now, i want to try the 255/85/R16s and the falken is the only good option in an AT

[@shootinglaser]

All great points! I was originally going to switch to a 235/85, but I feel the 255/85 is in that sweet spot between wide & pizza cutter status.

[@jbt7115]

I really hope they come out with the 255/85 16 in an E load range for the HD trucks. The C load range will not cut it and if the whole redesign was for the LT and diesel trucks then they missed the mark on that size.

[@rescueme1060]

I just drove 60+ miles in a snow storm trying to get to North Shore Tahoe. I’m using the AT4/Ws and would never buy a different tire. They are awesome..no complaints. Terrific traction in the snow, I trust them and nothing else.

[@OutdoorAuto]

I keep trying to explain to people that even though the siping is a tiny bit less snow aggressive it is still a VERY great snow tire... I think people are just in shock that, THAT was one of the things Falken took a tiny step back from... but the truth was it was so strong in snow it compromised other things and they trie to make a more balanced tire... I am going to run them on one of my trucks for sure... great tire.

[@teamhonzilla]

Is it better than AT3? Thanks

[@rescueme1060]

@@teamhonzilla I would trust either tire with my life. I had the AT3 on my old 2001 Ranger FX4, now I have a 2021 FX4 with AT4's. Both tires have gotten me through snowstorms and icy road conditions.

[@teamhonzilla]

@@rescueme1060 Thanks!!!

[@Barbara-nb8wz]

The pattern near the bead is the heat diffuser, it's tech from runflats made by SRI.

[@hwi7114]

This will be my next tire because they are actually going to make it in 255/85R16. Pizza cutter 33, lets go!

[@000T00b]

I don’t even own an off-roader (yet), but this was the first tire review that I watched from start to stop. This is how all tire reviews should be done !

[@eddieBoxer]

I don't even own a car or truck I'm a very poor man.

[@dominicwilkerson]

I've been running it on my R1T the last two weeks. It still handles the rain like a champ up here in the PNW.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Yeah, I think the fall off really only shows up when you are actually measuring times on tracks... it is still going to feel like a very solid Wet road tire... it was one of the best AT's out there in that catagory.

[@bgomez3]

How would you rate the noise level on your new AT4W on the highway?

[@dominicwilkerson]

@bgomez3 they are louder than the stock pirellies but honestly everything is louder in a ev so I just turn up the radio

[@TCinSoCal]

Thank you. This is 100% my next tire. OEM BFG KO2 on my Raptor 37 literally look half done at 14K miles. This will be their last winter. I don’t mind the extra weight.. truck is plenty fast. LOVE the beefier tire & 3 ply sidewall.

[@Kylewraps]

I have the AT4 I don’t recommend them at all

[@highadventur]

@@Kylewraps Could you let us know Why?

[@InGratitudeIam]

A little less traction in rain and on ice can make all the difference between hitting something and avoiding an accident altogether. A new learning curve to be sure.

[@justaname109]

On the flip side, a little more traction in the mud can make all the difference between winching yourself out of a mud hole and avoiding getting out of your vehicle all together.

[@stetsonbruce9575]

I’d rather get out and hook up a winch than have insurance go up and pay out of pocket for principal cause I slid into a car or a tree. (Wyoming)

[@justaname109]

@@stetsonbruce9575 the difference in safety between the two tires on rain/ice/snow on highways is so minuscule it’s a non issue considering you can just slow down. Falken didn’t turn the wildpeaks into drag slicks…Both tires are wildly more capable than the tires on the vast majority of the vehicles on the road next to you in those conditions. I have the AT4’s. They’re better than my Ko2’s and stock hankook at’s in the rain and are great in the snow. They do have more traction off road due to the larger side biters and deeper tread depth.

[@hawkfan72]

I have had my AT3s for 3 years and love them

[@isdaGang]

Learned more about tires in this video than I did watching several others. Getting the LT AT4W's put on my GX460 next week. Pretty stoked! You're great at explaining things. Thanks!

[@nenigma1]

What would be the max size tired u would use before rubbing is an issue? I'm a newbie trying to figure this out

[@MD-vp7yn]

Best tire review I’ve seen. Just found your channel and learned a great deal. I’ve had K02’s on two vehicles and they sucked where I live in BC. Lots of rain and some snow. I will consider these in the future.

[@boinger1988]

im deep deep into the new tire buying rabbit hole...

[@user-GeeMonies]

Yep me too

[@PAULY-P]

Same here. I'm also looking at the Toyo Open Country, and BF Goodrich Ko3's because i want white letters.

[@xscrandy]

I live in the PNW so when shopping for a new AT for my 4Runner I got the AT3Ws BECAUSE of their market lead in Wet and Ice since that is what I experience mostly here. Immediately loved them after moving on from my (slippery for here) Nitto Terra Grapplers. 18k miles on and still love them. When it comes time to replace them I'll probably go with the AT4Ws but will also likeky shop the market to see what tire is the best in wet and hard packed snow/ice conditions. Interestingly, the 275/70/R17 I run only increased 1 lb from the AT3Ws to AT4Ws, while also decreasing 0.2" in Diameter.

[@Bananahammock88]

Yes! I’ve been waiting for this tire! Thank you for reviewing it. It will be my next tire

[@OutdoorAuto]

It's a pretty impressive tire... Falken is not messing around.

[@WBrown999]

I just bought a set of these for my Lexus GX 460 a couple of days ago. Really loving them so far. Can’t wait to take them off road and test them out more thoroughly!

[@CMan-602]

Can you provide wheel info? Include offset

[@michaelhagans965]

Update? Just bought some

[@sea_weathered]

About to jump from a 37” BFG KM3, to the Wildpeak AT4W in 37” on my heavy overland Tundra. I know the road manners will be dramatically improved, but hoping not to loose too much in the way of offroad performance. Especially ride quality

[@PRV392]

For a factory Ram size, 275/70r18 I have found the AT4W already to be performing even better than the last set of AT3Ws. Theyre lighter in my size and handle even better in the rain. They’re actually a bit quieter and feel a lot more stable with towing and steering on a 3/4 ton. I don’t think they sacrificed performance at all - they definitely somehow improved and made even better.

[@alolivares6834]

I’ve got the at3w on my truck that do float at times, especially while towing. Wondering if I should upgrade to the at4w for a better towing experience?

[@PRV392]

@@alolivares6834 yes huge improvement. These are a lot more stable even under towing load. The front feels more responsive in steering now too

[@BMoris95]

If anyone disagrees with you on snow sticking better to snow, all they need to do is look at a dedicated snow tire. They do have a softer compound which also helps, but they have a massive amount of siping to trap snow.

[@RoamingGladiator]

Running the 37" AT4W Load Range Es on my JT Gladiator and I absolutely love them. They ride great, beefy, quite, and zero issues in snow/rain so far.

[@highadventur]

Could you add an extended use review? 🤔

[@drepagaming]

@highadventur By far the best tire I've ever purchased. They are phenomenal in all weather. I live in Canada so we get a ton of snow and they're killer. Very quite on the road, ride great when you do a proper chalk test. I run 28psi and they're great. They are a bit of a pain to balance but I am running 37s on Steelies so double whammy for the tire shops. Once I found a good shop they balanced great, might give balance beads a trip as I keep losing weights in the mud. I couldn't recommend these more, they're great and very affordable compared to the brand tax you pay on something like Mickeys.

[@highadventur]

@@drepagaming Awesome thank you. I've been running Mickeys for 20+ years and am going to try these next go round. Balance beads have been GREAT for me. No more pita weights.

[@UPSmech5999]

I'm sold on these now! Sounds perfect for my 1500 that lives in the snowy northeast and tows a fairly heavy camper alot.

[@egregiousblunder5395]

These are hands down the best AT's on the market. I have them on all of our vehicles that see hard use here in the mountains in snow, mud, fields, creek crossings, climbing rock service roads and more. We've never had a stuck vehicle or issues with flats and punctured sidewalls like other brands are notorious for. Go heavy on the and get a size with the 3-ply sidewall rating.

[@LightningTime777]

I would absolutely love to here your thoughts on the Kenda Klever RT tires. I have the 35x10.5r17 (a very uncommon but nice pizza cutter size) and overall I like them but they do tend to break away on wet concrete sometimes even though they are almost brand new.

[@Icandoanthing]

These are made in Buffalo, NY. I work there. I can't guarantee that they won't come from another plant but we make them and are ramping up production of them.

[@stevest1300]

The sidewalls sold me. I've been cutting sidewalls since the 1980s. Bias ply Goodyear lug tires, even recaps, NEVER cut sidewalls like radials. I just ordered a set of these from Black Circles for my Excursion to replace the completely unimpressive KO2s.

[@3RayJ3]

I put a set of these on my 01 F-150 3 weeks and 3000 miles ago. 265/70/17 They are 2 ply sidewalls made in Japan. 2680lbs load rating. I run them at 32psi, bump the rear to 35 when towing. I have driven through on road snow and slush, rain, sand, gravel and a few big rocks. They have been excellent in all conditions. Best wet on road tire I have ever owned. My truck drives like 50k miles were taken off the odometer. Other than the price, I couldn't be more happy. Now I get to see how they wear.

[@timtorkelson7201]

Just put a set of AT4W’s on 2 days ago, 275/60/R20’s…4 ply with 2 ply sidewalls, SL 115T / 2679lb,max psi is 50, running mine @ 37 currently, great looking,great riding, pretty dam quite! Love them! 50 lb tire.

[@3RayJ3]

@timtorkelson7201 So I had to relook at mine, they are also rated at 2679 load but 51 psi, for some odd reason. The tread is 2 ply polyester+2 ply steel+ 1 ply polyamire, whatever that means. However my sidewalls are 2 ply polyester only. I wonder why? Still, I am driving 100+ miles a day with many of those on Arizona desert off roads. I still love them. Good luck with yours.

[@timtorkelson7201]

Same here! Put the SL 275/60/20- 115T rated @ 2679lbs @ 51psi,running mine at 36..love them,smooth,quiet,improvement in handling / cornering for sure! ONLY thing due to it being 11lbs heavier than stock wranglers that came on my 6.2 Silverado @ 51lb tire…legit 2-3+ mpg less!

[@owizzlebeezy123]

FYI that sidewall pattern by the bead is for heat dissipation, supposedly. They revised the pattern/design from early AT3W to newer AT3W, and carried it over to AT4W, I read.

[@capella95]

I’m running Falkens on my Trans Am and Prelude, probably gonna switch to these on my Xterra Pro4X. I’m not a “brand” guy but Falken is killing it. Great review as always, I love that you give information and not reciting the website specs.

[@jimrice4699]

Great review. You stated that the AT3W was "almost leading the pack" for wet road and ice traction. Those two attributes are important to me in the PNW. Can you tell us who the wet road / ice leader is in the AT segment? I usually switch to a true winter tire in deep winter, but for safety wet road traction is key, and ice/packed snow traction is important for the "shoulder seasons" (or if you don't get around to switching to winter tires).

[@OutdoorAuto]

to get better traction then the At3w in wet you have to branch into the super specialist stuff like Nokians... and even though they make "AT" tires... I don't really consider them that... as I would never off-road any of them... they aren't tough enough for the really rough rock and stuff.... but they are better in ran and snow.

[@TacoRancher]

@@OutdoorAuto- so do you think the Nokian nAT Outpost w/ aramid is less tough for off-roading than a 2-ply Falken AT4W or about on par? Comparing E load to E load. I am curious because there was no 3-ply in the Falken for my size - so I got E rated 2 ply and the nokian was also on my list - curious how tough you think an AT4W in two ply is - including if it’s tougher than the AT3W

[@derekheuring2984]

Even though I've still got 50% tread left on my Nitto Trail Grapplers I enjoy hearing about other brands and styles for when I have to replace them. I think you've convinced me to go with the Falken AT4. I own a 2022 Power Wagon which with my gear and trailer hauls a pretty good load so only 3 ply HD tires will do, and I travel all across America so I'll be encountering just about every road and off-road condition.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Huge Changes to this tire... What do you think about the direction Falken is taking this tire?

[@rjbfreelander2]

Just fitted 5 Falken Wildpeak AT3W to My Land Rover. Need to get them off road but so far so good on road even in the wet. If they server me well i will probably go for these come replacement time.

[@MrLeeMTB]

Awesome review my friend. This is the best one to date for me. I’m stuck between the Baja Boss and the AT4W for my taco and you definitely threw some eggs in both baskets with this one video. I will attempt to settle a question you had. I believe the design around the bead is for heat dissipation. I have heard a couple of guys say that about the AT3W. Please look into that, though, I would trust that you would give me an honest answer. 😅 Again, great review.

[@dustinparrish8453]

⁠​⁠@@MrLeeMTB, I have the atw3 on my 2013 jeep wrangler rubicon and like them, I would like to try the atw4 when these wear down. And the website said something about the ribs/fins are to cool the tires close to the bead.

[@Mjraptor]

Great review as always However I believe you talked me out of this tire I'll either strap on the MT Baja Boss AT or quickly get the atw3 before they sell out. Based on your review I can't help but think Falken messed up here. Meaning they should market the Atw4 as a completely new tire (with a different damn name) while also working to subtlety update and improve the atw3. I think this is a HUGE missed opportunity for them But what do I know

[@magnus5356]

I got the AT3W's on my Jeep XJ and they been great for everything I've thrown at them. Kinda want them on my new Maverick too, especially for the (now) legendary wet traction, since in all honesty, it will spend the majority of time on roads. However, the new '4's' seams to be a worse choice for the latter... It's a pretty light truck and like said, mostly on-road, so the changes isn't looking good!

[@stevetrbofox1549]

Great review...I just bought a set of at3w wildpeaks 285 45 22 for my 5th gen ram...The old tires are mickey Thomson deegan 38's...They were horrible in the snow..

[@jimbeaulieu220]

I am definitely NOT a tire nerd, but I love that you definitely are! Great review, appreciate the depth of analysis here and you’ve earned a subscriber.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Appreciate it, thanks for watching.

[@matthewamanti3900]

Bro! Thank you so much for this excellent review. It shows that you actually use your rig(s) and know what we are all looking for in terms of performance characteristics. All bases covered in this review and a great balance of technical details and high level explanations. I have had Toyo RTs, ATs, Nitto Ridge Graps, BFG ATs , KO3s and these AT4W will be my first Falken tire. I'm spending more and more time in the snow and wanting the added Snow Peak rating, these seem to fit my needs without sacrificing the durability for the hard dessert offroading...and good lord 60k mile warranty!! Thanks again!

[@matthewamanti3900]

Update, i went ahead and picked up a set of the at4 35/70/12.5 and they are on my 2017Tundra TRD Pro. I towe a 5000lb travel trailer and just did the first trip a few weeks ago. Tires are great so far, quiet and nice ride. This winter will be the true test. I will say these things look even better in person and the tread depth is massive. They eem a little bigger than the Toyo Rts they replaced because i can hear a small amount of rubbing when in reverse. Something I'll have to see about fixing soon.

[@skradjinn]

With my Tacoma I rather stick with the AT3s because of the weight. When I get a larger truck only then I would get the AT4s. Great review and tire education. Thank you.

[@southernfried19]

You don't have a choice anymore. The AT3W is now discontinued, which sucks.... because the new model is significantly heavier. I wouldn't put the AT4W on a Tacoma unless you don't care at all about gas mileage and performance.

[@ShouldersMoondog549]

Thanks again for another tire review of this tire. I was looking at this tire a dealer this morning and he was pointing out things to me and comparing to the BFGoodrich AT KO3 which i had pretty much made my mind up to get, now I'm leaning to these!! (they also have a bit lower cost too! ) Thanks again!!

[@charlesbranch4120]

Thanks, Nathan. I'm sold on the Falken AT4W when its time for my next set. I replaced the original set of Dunlop Grand Trek AT on the 2009 Tacoma SR5 (DLT) with Michelin Defenders when I bought it in 2021 so the Falkens should be around in 2029. A salesman at Parker Subaru and I talked quite a bit as he was showing me the Subaru Ascent while resetting its systems as my daughter bought it last year, a 2022 model with Falken tires. He's planning on replacing the tires on his '99 Four Runner with Falkens when it's time. (DLT = Dad's Last Truck, which he spec'd out the way I would have). Thanks again from Kootenai County.

[@n0pe213]

Hey I believe at 17:36 that the pattern is used to dissipate heat. Can’t remember where I read it/saw it but when you air down your sidewall/bead gets hotter and can degrade the material over time, so I believe that pattern increases surface area to dispel heat. Could be marketing BS but that’s my understanding of it

[@OutdoorAuto]

You are right, I actually talked to the tire designer and that is exactly what he said it was for.

[@chrisslky7018]

I've loved my AT3W for years! Gotta think about the new one now! Thanks.

[@jamesstein5952]

Feed Back- Purchased the AT4W based on your reviews - Just back from the Eastern Sierras 4 days trails 4-6 rated. Was great performance. Appreciate your advise.

[@OutdoorAuto]

I'm still running mine on my Tundra and I am having a hard time complaining about anything... actually ran them in a rally race and put them through a lot and I was really surprised to see no chipping and they did amazing.... so far the longer I drive them the more I like them.

[@deadbrother5355]

Discount tire website says the at3w is discontinued. That is a bummer because its the only tire I ever wanted a second set of.

[@jayh.3085]

The rubber design close to the bead helps with distributing heat away from the tire.

[@malachi487]

I just bought these 2 days ago for my Tundra Limited (2022) 4X4- 265- 60-20- I like them but they are a little heavier than the AT3"s- its a good looking tire.

[@BumDogSuMo]

I just ordered a set of these in 295/65r20 for my 2020 3500 AT4. I was ready to get the A/T3Ws until I started seeing videos on this new model. Comparing the treads for a couple weeks, I’m convinced that the redesigned lugs of the A/T4W will be slightly better for a heavy diesel truck like mine that spends a lot of time towing.

[@highadventur]

I Agree. So how have they been working for you?

[@creativemindsaudiovisual8617]

I just bought them in 255/85r16 and they are 6 Ply, they are so strong and I am so stoked on them! Since they are Pizza cutters I didn't even lose any power or gas mileage on my 1st gen Taco even though they are almost 33's AND 6 PLY!!! And they rocked on the trails in the sierras north of Tahoe in mud and snow. They are worth every penny.

[@OutdoorAuto]

6 ply is talking about the top... the sidewalls are 3 ply.

[@creativemindsaudiovisual8617]

@@OutdoorAuto Well damn, thank you for clarifying, I was going by what my tire guy had said to me, this makes more sense. Love you channel, thank you for what you do!

[@jameswatt4694]

@@OutdoorAuto Is it true that many of the AT4s are 2-ply? Would there be a good reason to avoid LT 255/85/16 Load range C on a summer mountain + desert winter +slickrock 2000 4Runner? I need LESS stiffness weight and burl in my life right now - I need a lighter 33" pizza-cutter. TY for a great video. Subbed

[@trevorruffner2538]

You should do a review on the Yokohama Geolandar A/T Xd. It was the only tire that fits on a stock super duty tremor that is three peak mountain snowflake and takes studs. In the bigger tires, the duratracs are no longer three peak tires.

[@blakeantos1301]

I’ve used nothing but AT3s since 2018 & sing their praises to anyone who’ll listen. Looking forward to putting these AT4s on a new 4Runner. 😍

[@highadventur]

Good to hear! Any update on how you feel about the AT4's?

[@ohadparan2853]

I had these installed last Friday on my '97 4Runner. I was coming from $90 Costco tires. By comparison these are like riding on a cloud and the grip in the rain is incredible. Here in California it's been flood conditions. I feel a lot safer on these vs. my old A/T car tires. The amount of power these sap from my little engine is comical. The 3rd gen was already quite slow, and now it's a challenge to accelerate onto the freeway and it doesn't like going over 70-75--too much rolling resistance. I'm glad I got them because they are awesome but it's something to think about.

[@Garyscott7]

I have the 3 version on my old Ford Escape 4x4. They are definitely meant for duty in the rocks, fire roads and dirt. A heavy, nasty tough tire suitable for pulling the boat and getting back in there or jacking around off road until you break something. Living in the middle Sierra Nevada mountains just outside Yosemite I also want a winter snow & rain traction tire to take me shopping down in the city. But I am not in the great North that stays frozen until summer vacation. For that purpose I found the Cooper Discoverer a better tire. Excellent traction and stability. Lighter than the Falken, a little softer rubber in the cold that is also surprisingly great on the freeways and into summer.

[@stephens208]

Awesome video sir, your tire reviews are very well done and the way you explain things is very helpful. Keep it up!

[@OutdoorAuto]

Thanks 🙏

[@ashleymalone5396]

The AT3W actuallly surprised me in a slick red clay during a rain with how well they did. I fully expected to be in 4-high and on the throttle. I wasnt. I was in 2wd and, yes, did have some wheel spin, but I severely underestimated their performance.

[@YaleWall]

This is so interesting! Thanks. I assumed tires were crazy specific, but I have never heard the nuance.

[@mattluken573]

Ive had the wildpeak at3w on a ram 2500. Great wearing, great all around. I tow a lot and have been suprised on the great wear. Not sure I'm eager to switch.

[@looloo6322]

I put a set on my '17 Tacoma 4x4 in mid January '24. The very first trip was on an icy, snowy, muddy logging train. They did not fail me with the truck empty and with a full bed of oak logs. They were a bit pricey at $1400 for 4 but they do have a 65,000 mile warranty.

[@OutlawII]

Kinda of a bummer. Appreciate the 3-ply sidewall, but IMO these were the best compromise hard pack snow and ice tires that could also handle the rocks without getting torn up. Thank you for the in depth nerdy details that really tell the tale.

[@cyrusortiz-luis291]

Thank you for this review. I’m getting this tire because it’s one of the only AT that comes in 255/85-16. Pizza cutters FTW! 🍕✂️

[@CharlesDoidge-h6i]

I've heard lots of good things about the pizza cutter sizes. What truck do you use it on?

[@Jc6fe]

Why is it called the pizza cutter For 255/85 16

[@jameswatt4694]

@@Jc6fe Because it's tall and narrow (relative to other 33s)

[@snowlothar45]

The AT3 was a favorite of mine on several vehicles. Great for snow where I live in the mountains. The change is so drastic I will look for a new brand.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Snow traction actually has been improved… since the tires release it’s been tested and it improved… not drastically but it was a measurable improvement… so at least is snow is your main focus… it’s still amazing.

[@LCRIPTIDEPB]

@@OutdoorAuto this is good to know. i just ordered AT4Ws and was nervous. i actually found the Rubitreks today and tried to swap because those seemed better for snow...

[@thecapeisout]

Gonna be switching over to a Maxxis Razr. Thanks for the review!

[@BMoris95]

I'm not sure if it really matters, but it would be cool to see the durometer of the tread of all the tires you review.

[@OutdoorAuto]

That’s a good idea, I tend to trust the manufacturer stated depth… but I have definitely seen inconsistencies in their stated weight.

[@BMoris95]

I was talking about the hardness of the rubber compound, but tread depth would be nice to know too.@@OutdoorAuto

[@carminedowney9561]

What they have done is go after the "hybrid" tire market but with an amazing tire that gets the snowflake rating! When I bought my wife a Defender we gave her Moab Wrangler to our daughter and I swapped the Toyo Mud Terrains we had on it for the Falken AT3s because she goes snow boarding alot. They are AMAZING and with the Snowflake rating don't require chains! I liked they so much I considered going with them on my new GMC Dually instead of the Nitto Ridge Grapplers I had on my prior truck to get the Snowflake rating, but worried about towing our toy hauler with them. Well this new AT4 is the perfect weapon to handle the weight of trailer with full load of 2 RZRs, dirtbikes and fuel without the side lug buckling on turns and look as agressive as the Ridge Grapplers, but still have a higher mileage rating and the Snowflake rating!

[@benhunter6053]

Awesome review. Super helpful in knowing what to look for! Just purchased a set of these for my F150

[@1gymbo1]

I got my Lt275/70r18 Toyo AT3's 4 years ago and have 50,000 miles on them. I still have 7/32nds on them and they still have the sipes. They have been great. They are starting to slip a little bit while turning on to roads from a stop in the rain. Easily manageable with a light foot. The OEM Goodyear's they replaced had half the miles and were downright dangerous in the rain. I've narrowed my next set down to these two or MT BajaBoss A/T.

[@jimjernigan8694]

I have had 3 sets of AT3’ and just got the AT4 and they are to loud for me. Look great but I’m taking them off! If I can’t find any AT3’s I will go with the Toyo!!

[@jetter820]

Just bought a set of at/4 285/70/17 for my 2024 Tacoma last night. They're not on yet but I'm hoping they ride well in the rain. Lots of rain here in southeast Alaska.

[@bowstobourbon]

yasss ty, these just arrived for me, super pumped to get them mounted! Amazing overview, i had their muds before and they were awesome!

[@NoTyranny1501]

@OutdoorAuto, I believe the weight is very tire size specific. I just bought a set of AT4W in LT265/60/R20, and they are the same weight in that size as the AT3W (58 pounds). I've had the AT3W's on my 1/2 ton work truck for 78,000 miles and what I liked the most is that they never slid around in wet or dry pavement. I hope the AT4W's perform the same....I'm a little skeptical.

[@OutdoorAuto]

Yes... you are right... it depends a lot on whether you go HD or 3-ply or both.... if you go with neither it is similar to the at3w... which is still a heavy tire but not as much

[@jerryavlon4780]

You sir, are the tire whisperer, no doubt about that. Great video.

[@Mike___Kilo]

As a Georgian, I'm looking for performance in the rain vs. performance in the snow. It only snows every 5 years here. If that. What's the best A/T tire for performance on road in the rain? Better to stick with the AT3 or is the real world difference so miniscule that the other improvements of the AT4 over the AT3 make it the best choice?

[@theeory1]

Solid review and I didn’t know anything about tires now I feel like an expert 😮

[@mikegallagher2732]

GREAT REVIEW !!!!! I have Had DURATRACKS on my TACO for YEARS , And went to the 4's as soon as they came out... BLOW Those Tires AWAY.. I have NO experience with the 3's BUT.... THESE ARE FAR SUPERIOR to the OLD DURATRACKS...EASILY...

[@ejesoriginal]

That design around the sidewall rim that you said you weren't sure what it was for but thought it was for sticks or just looks is supposed to be for heat dissipation while towing or hauling heavy loads.

[@jtorralb]

Quick heads up. I just bought the at4's for my 2021 4runner trd orp to replace my ko2's which were just horrible on wet roads. I purchased stock size. 265/70/17 The wildepeaks must definitely be beefier than the ko2's. I now have the wheels rubbing the inside of the wheel well when backing up and the wheel is turned all the way to the right. So, stock size tire now rubs in wheel well. Oh, btw my at4's are made in Japan

[@OutdoorAuto]

Yes they are way wider even when you buy the same size... BFG's always run on the small side.

[@pdxwarrior]

How bad is the rub? I too have an trd orp and am looking into new tires for this year. I’m in the PNW and had been considering the 3W, but my thinking is leaning towards the 4W now. Have you had a chance to put them through the paces at all? I’m not looking into full on off roading, would like to confidently hit the fire roads in the area, and still have good winter/wet performance.

[@jtorralb]

@@pdxwarrior the rub can be dealt with a very minor correction to the hard right steer. It just touches the lip of the panel. It only happens when backing up out of a tight spot. I suspect after some wear it won't be an issue. I may just take a dremel to it if I am not patient. And IMHO they are so much better than the ko2. Ride is superior. I live in wa state and needed better wet traction. Forgot to mention I have the king coils which make it as high as a trd pro. Nothing aggressive I think it's a 1 inch lift if that.

[@kevinstarski1598]

Don't know about "beefier" (KO2 are more durable tire) but at4w have deeper tread which could cause your issues

[@pdxwarrior]

@@jtorralb thanks for the update. I’m in Oregon myself, with a stock height ride and kdss. Sounds like it won’t be a real issue. Good to know!

[@kcspeed9980]

Well, currently on the market for new tires for my new to me 4Runner! Brother is running the at3w and apparently now they are no longer available in my area so at4w it is! Great video.

[@ssd2k2]

The extra weight and slightly reduced snow performance means I'm definitely going with the Baja Bosses for my Tacoma. It is so nice to find unbiased reviews, thank you for spending the money to do proper comparisons.

[@1rstTry]

I went with the XLs on my 4Runner since I’m mostly on road and love them.

[@Baebon6259]

I heard Baja Boss is more difficult to balance when compare to other known brands. Not sure if that is 100% true.

[@redleg84]

I'm between these and the Baja boss for my 4runner as well

[@1rstTry]

@@redleg84 if you’re looking for efficiency, get the light weight and criminally underrated Firestone. If you just want to send it on some cool shoes, Baja bosses all the way

[@thebeast9606]

​​@@1rstTry Which Firestone AT gives you the same winter and off-road performance as the Falkens or Mickey Thompsons...? I can't think of any off hand.

[@dougmcdougall3997]

First time for myself watching and I must say well done ! Thank you for all the good info its a mine field out there looking for tires to beat around the farm and haul firewood the Falken is a good looking option .

[@ronnieredneck9162]

What a great extremely clear video. Thank you.

[@mikefranks4528]

Great exhaustive review that is very comprehensive. Your presentation cadence is perfect. Helped me a great deal to decide on which tire I need to buy. Since I have a Ford Transit 350HD Ecoboost (DRW drive only), I will definitely consider which I should choose based on what you shared. Since I will be urban driving mostly, and very few off road. My stopping power in wet conditions is my biggest risk - so in saying that, I will have to go with the Falken AT3s.

[@josephgarcia2979]

Excellent job of tell and show! Nice to have someone say "let me show you what I mean."

[@JavierPadron]

I believe those design around rim edge is for cooling I thought someone said once. I got mine today and can 100% say these tires run cooler and my psi goes up to 5psi after heating up. My MT bajaboss At ran 8 to 10 psi different once hot, here in texas. Can't wait to test out these tires my Baja Boss are currently my all time favorite tire in performance

[@tammyliscio]

Literally just purchased 4 at3ws. Two months ago. Over 2k. Went to buy a the spare and can’t find them. Found out they are discontinued. Not only do I not have a spare but if I pop a tire I can’t get another

[@OutdoorAuto]

Tire Rack still has a lot of AT3w sizes in stock... they have free shipping as well - geni.us/FalkenAT3w

[@goforbroke2]

I just had a set of AT3w delivered 255/80/17, I ordered the older tire over the new AT4w on weight alone. It’s a 5lb weight difference but the tires are heavy enough already. My 2nd gen Tacoma TxPro 6-speed chugs along but for my use I don’t need 60lb tires.

[@Teufels_hunde]

@17:13 Falken advertises the pattered section near the inner sidewall of the AT3/4W is “heat diffusing technology in the lower sidewall designed to dissipate heat in the internal structure when towing or hauling loads.” This is supposed to reduce the overall temps, which overall increasing wear resistance. Think of those ridges as heat syncs, and as air flows inside and around those ridges, it draws heat out of the tire near the bead. Supposedly the hottest sections on a tire are near the bead. Whether is works or not, I’m not a tire engineer.

[@tbizness27]

For a Ford Bronco, would you recommend the AT3 or AT4?

[@craneman42]

I had AT3s on a 2014 Grand Cherokee Laredo that were bought in 2020. While i dont remember the mileage when put on, in appearance they still had 3 or 4 more years worth of driving on them for my style. I loved the softer compound it was grippy.

[@chrispoirier384]

I absolutely love my 3s, make sure when you change size you recalculate the new pressure (load index chart) and or reach out to Falken. Best tire I've ever owned.

[@chefbrittan84]

I like that they added another ply to the sidewall.