Fall Lawn Care Tips Florida, Texas and Gulf Coast

These are fall lawn care tips for those of you in the deep south.
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[@Thelawncarenut]

BackPack Sprayer Training - Detailed kzbin.info/www/bejne/en2Ze5Z4aM6WZsUsi=OFXiJgOhNsmOu6zg

[@mattheww2797]

Definitely prefer this style video over the over produced ones

[@Thelawncarenut]

Thank you for the feedback. TBH, I was burned out on doing my own editing. I did it for about 10 years straight. Getting an editor has really allowed me to take a step back. But now it's been a full season of having him do everything and I am no longer burned out. So I think we are going to do both now. I'll go back to my "weekend vlogs" and also use him to make videos that we release during the week on specific topics. The best of both worlds, plus, double the output.

[@inigomontoya619]

Never knew grass was so complicated and complex. Wish u were my neighbor so I could get some advice

[@nonickname1522]

Love the Vlogs!!! Keep them coming! Pls

[@StayInTheWord]

ProVista - THE BEST!! Love mine. Hope you’re well, Allyn.

[@jisboss32]

Just did my application on Tuesday. Love the videos

[@Thelawncarenut]

Thrower down !

[@Nick210]

With the amount of money my friends and I have spent on Yard Mastery products this year I’m hoping to see you get a new property and hopefully get it going from scratch.

[@Thelawncarenut]

That would be awesome ! Spend more!!! 😂😂

[@MacPOPOPO]

Love the domination updates!

[@vmarsfiles]

I absolutely hate St. Aug grass. A lot of my neighbors have it here in SoCal. I have a fescue blend that I love!

[@meagaindave2049]

Agreed. I can't stand my neighbors (on each side) St. Augustine infiltrating into my centipede lawn. I'm constantly pulling the stolons from one side while the other side has a constant dirt trench at the property line where I spray it with Round Up once a week.

[@nickgibb4687]

miss your cool season. being from wisco....but still love your FL content

[@Glamorouspythons]

Another awesome video as always❤! Could you do a video on adjusting sprinkler heads to

[@johnnyplair8532]

Great information 👍

[@fairwaybermudalawn]

Great video 👍🏾

[@shane6002]

Glad your video touched on this yesterday l did my Halloween app and after 3 years and some thought l decided to go all granular fertilization primarily do to the staining of the product and weight of the backpack sprayer keeping the pre-emergents, herbicide and insecticide liquid l will toggle between flagship and stress blend l would like some of your input pro / cons thanks for your time

[@tamikayhager]

Thank you for including Bahia grass in the guide on page 19. Wish you addressed Bahia in the video.

[@Thelawncarenut]

I have a series on it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5m5lqabi7F4m80

[@greggjohnston4022]

And up here in the southern part of Idaho. We have cool weather grass so the grass is green but I just can't seem to get these dandelions under control

[@DrummertheCody]

Seeded zoysia in my sw Florida backyard a month ago and it actually germinated! Everybody said it couldn’t be done. Other than the spots that got washed out by downpours, it’s growing! Watered 4 times a day!

[@ROG956]

Where did you purchase

[@DrummertheCody]

Scott’s zoysia and mulch. Got it from ace hardware. Can’t find it available anywhere nearby now.

[@ROG956]

@@DrummertheCodythanks

[@Thelawncarenut]

that's great to hear!! Let's hope for a mild winter so it can continue to spread.

[@texaspowerman]

I have a Texas St.Augustine lawn, soil temps are a bit high as it was 95 yesterday and over 90 today. I’m getting ready to do Celsius and a last grub control granular. I’ve got pre-emergent in a week or so, I’ve been using a growth regulator this summer. Should I stop the growth regulator when using Celsius as it’s a bit stunting on its own and can I mix it with a folar firt and apply it at the same time. W as hoping the weeds would go for the firt and pull in more Celsius and the grass would use the firt to fight off stunting. ✌️

[@BrandanTheBroker]

Man I miss these vlog style videos, and man do I miss St. Aug grass 😢

[@Thelawncarenut]

you actually miss your St Aug? You just became my favorite subscriber! ha ha!

[@bronsonwhite6487]

Is it ok to do this with currently active weeds? Crabgrass, green kyllinga, Florida pusley, etc. all taking over. just moved into a house in NE FL with .75 acres. Should I cut it short first? It sucks I moved in with how crazy the yard is I know I need to do something to the yard before it gets worse. Just need a good starting point. I’m pretty sure the grass is done growing but the weeds still coming/spreading. Thank you

[@eliotanders3488]

Great video, as always. Question; if you verticut warm season grass, will cutting up those stolens produce thicker grass, i.e., making those stolens smaller force them to spread and grow more?

[@Thelawncarenut]

I don't recommend it. It will not make them any thicker or stimulate growth in St Augustine. Instead what it will do is open the lawn up for weed invasions. With St Augustine it's important to keep it knit tight always. Bermuda and zoysia are a different story but with those, we just scalp them in the spring so no need for verticutting there either. To me, verticutting is something they do on sports fields, no home lawns.

[@eliotanders3488]

@@Thelawncarenut Okay, good to know. Thanks!

[@johnfetter3252]

2:20. "Mom, that crazy Mr Hanes is talking to his grass again." "Tommy, get inside RIGHT NOW!!"

[@Thelawncarenut]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrGeneWentworth]

whats ASMR? How do I watch the weekly vlogs? Is winter over in Ocala?

[@Dans642]

Great video Alan. I’m wondering if you recommend using an aftermarket blade on your mowers and if so which one. I have a super recycler and love the mower but have some stragglers left behind

[@Thelawncarenut]

I've always just used OEM blades. Maybe try mowing more often if there are too many stragglers. Or do a double cut. I double cut often myself.

[@joec.3795]

I deal with all the time. 22 inch Toro recyclers and I have to mow twice. New blades and sharpened. I was wondering if maybe the air flow wasn't pulling grass up for the cut.

[@brandonkeith7169]

The professionally edited videos are cool, but the longer tenured subscribers like myself still enjoy a good old LCN self recorded video! Side note, do you believe Ego has surpassed Toro in the lawn care game? Seems like there isn’t as much Toro products as before being used in your videos.

[@Thelawncarenut]

Ego is better for hand tools, but Toro gas mowers are still superior for cut quality. You will likely see some Toro content in 2024 again!

[@michaelrobledo7701]

"I've been getting it up for years" lmao 😂

[@Thelawncarenut]

😅🤣

[@greggjohnston4022]

I live in southern Idaho, the particularly in Kimberly Idaho and we live on an acre and a quarter and I have had some problems getting rid of the dandelions. I do the pre-immersion and the post immersion and I can't seem to get rid of them. What would you recommend? And we have cool weather grass Kentucky bluegrass. I believe that's what it is

[@Thelawncarenut]

Dandelions are tougher to kill in the fall as they are very mature and thick at that time. SPring is a better time to control them and I recommend you use "Speedzone" herbicide. It works great.

[@EugeneSmith88113]

Should I apply stress blend again in December for Bermuda (North Texas)? I applied it in mid-October.

[@Thelawncarenut]

only if you are still mowing. If the lawn has stopped growing, then no more Stress Blend until spring. pre-emergent right now is recommended for sure though.

[@nonickname1522]

LMAOOO. My wife complains about the way you yell Bahia grass. I usually watch your videos late at night. She said “wow he didn’t yell this time” 😂

[@garrettbrown1871]

Thank you for the videos! I just put down citra blue st Augustine 2 weeks ago in Florida. Is putting down pre emergent okay on newly sodded lawns or is that too harsh? BTW is river roo , Woody’s on the manatee river?

[@Thelawncarenut]

For sure, no pre-emergent on your new sod until next season. What you want now is starter fertilizer and especially RGS (that I used in this video). It has sea kelp that will help with rooting. And yes, it's the River Roo - one of my regular hangouts. We are getting closer to all the snowbirds coming back to the trailer parks which means the people watching gets really good!!! thelawncarenut.com/collections/n-ext/products/rgs-root-growth-liquid-biostimulant#

[@TheLawnLover]

15:16 - giving the neighbors a show is the secret to making the products work better after you spray them 😂

[@Thelawncarenut]

Good seeing you last week bro !!

[@TheLawnLover]

@@Thelawncarenut Yes! It was my first time there and I had an absolute blast!

[@Ambrosius13]

So you are not going to do anything with the signal grass? Just hope the cold takes care of it? Hear it is going to be a warmer winter so may not impact it too much.

[@briman1968]

I can't seem to find anything about you talking about Bahai grass. I have Bahai that is being invaded by wild Bermuda grass and something that looks like clover, but isn't clover. I live in Central Florida and have tried Tenacity but isn't really doing what I'd hoped...You are the master, please help

[@Thelawncarenut]

Hey Briman - Tenacity isn't labeled for Bahia grass so I recommend to stop using that. As far as the wild bermuda, the only choice you have is to scrape it out and resod, there is no chemical to kill it. For general weed control, you can use Image for Southern Lawns (purple label) which is available at big box stores.

[@inigomontoya619]

Any advice for the fire ant colony that is my yard

[@Bri99r1]

How do you decide when to stop mowing for the year, for cool season grasses? What height do we leave it at for the Winter?

[@Thelawncarenut]

whenever it stops growing. There may be a point where it isn't growing but you need to get leaves up and it's ok to run over it again then. For the cut height, I recommend cool season grasses be mowed at 3-3.5" during the season and for winter, the last cut you can take down to 2.75 or so. In other words, one notch lower than your normal cut height.

[@vanwhalen3719]

Hey there Lawn Care Nut! How difficult do you think it would be trying to get into the lawn care/landscaping business in gulf coast area. I have been running my own business for 5 years so far in North Mississippi. Im thinking of relocating.

[@anfield1521]

Hey Allyn, would any of your fertilizers be suitable for a palm tree (sylvester and roebelenii), if so, which one? or are they specifically designed for lawns? If not, could you recommend a fertilizer for a palm tree since mine is displaying a yellow-brown color? I think it needs magnesium? Thank you!

[@Thelawncarenut]

This is what I use - I'll be sure and do a video here soon thelawncarenut.com/collections/n-ext/products/4-0-2-floragreene-liquid-fertilizer#

[@nonickname1522]

I use an 8-2-12 mix. Miracle grow has a good one.

[@anfield1521]

Thank you! Yes, a video on palm tree treatments would be very helpful.@@Thelawncarenut

[@CSharp92]

Should I put down pre-emergent if I’m planning on sodding with Pro Vista in the spring?

[@Thelawncarenut]

No it will just be wasted.

[@SoFNuTT]

What’s the opinion on the rotary scissors? They seem to be falling out of favor since they originally blew up.

[@Thelawncarenut]

they are cool for views, but not practical for day-to-day use kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKiWdWaQpcmabZIsi=aai_KxWBz_9GD-ce

[@greggjohnston4022]

I live in southern part of Idaho and I have quite a few dental lines in my lawn. How can I get rid of them? I've done pre-immersion post immersion

[@Thelawncarenut]

I'm not sure what you mean by "dental lines" can you give me some more detail? Is it from new sod you had installed or something like that?

[@anfield1521]

Hey Allyn, I forgot to ask you, Here in Central Florida, I've just used your Air8 + Humic12. How long should I wait before applying the stress blend fertilizer? Can I do it the next day, or is it recommended to wait for a few weeks? and how often can i apply Bio-Stimulants to my lawn. Every month? - Thank you

[@Thelawncarenut]

you can apply Stress Blend right away. It will not interfere with the bio-stimulants and vice-versa. The bio-stims go down monthly but not all of them. If you download my app called "Yard Mastery" it will give you a schedule for free! Enjoy!

[@joec.3795]

Hey Alan, I have a large area where my downspout drains into the yard and the area is very yellow compared to the rest of the dark green grass. Is this just be saturated and nutrients being washed away? What are my options?

[@Thelawncarenut]

yes likely it's just that. Best to dig a trench and route the water away from the house and lawn. Easy fix, just takes some elbow grease.

[@lizone83]

I live in Panama city my yards is full of weeds and empty pockets, looks terrible. I NEED HELP! can i put grass seeds now?

[@Thelawncarenut]

We don't do grass seeding here in FLorida. I would recommend you get some good training under your belt before trying to tackle a big weed problem. Go to Yardcarebootcamp.com and sign up there. THis will put you on the right track and there is a private area where you can ask specific questions to me and my staff once you complete the training. I promise this will help you get much better results, faster.

[@ironmedsvr]

I'm Texas after a long hot summer and drout my grass looks like crap, every was dead dry, I raked up hay Basically, and now it's growing back in spots but I'm getting clovers all over, my yard like half dead, few grass. Clovers and dirt it looks like crap 😔😪

[@Yamyamm21]

Hello, great video! Can i apply a pre emergent on my new st augustine sod? They are a month old now.

[@Thelawncarenut]

I would wait until spring to apply since your sod is so new. If any weed come up you can spot spray them. I recommend the Image for Southern Lawns, purple label available at Lowes or HD.

[@Yamyamm21]

Ok thank you so much!!

[@Achilles3588]

Allyn, apologies but you lost me on the app rate for prodiamine for liquid (backpack) application. If that's covered in either your Winter Lawn Guide or latest Pre-Emergent Guide I missed it. Can you help?

[@Thelawncarenut]

check out the bottom part of the description here. That gives you the app rates by grass type - hope that helps! thelawncarenut.com/collections/pre-emergents-1/products/prodiamine-65-wdg-pre-emergent-herbicide

[@BuiltByMike]

I spend longer pulling signal grass then cutting the grass. Glad it has a name. Been calling it shit grass

[@lawn2learn]

Do you wear your good shades when you edge/mow or use a beat up pair?

[@Thelawncarenut]

I wear the same shades for everything.

[@Joanne796]

I resodded with st Augustine in lay April. Can I still put down prodiamine this fall?

[@Thelawncarenut]

Yes you sure can. Thrower down !

[@GamerGee]

9:21 we need some reviews of citrablue LCN. That stuffs amazing.

[@Thelawncarenut]

Believe me, I've thought about getting some.

[@GamerGee]

@@Thelawncarenut I’ve had mines since March. It’s been a pretty overall good experience. I can email you all of my pros and very little cons about it. The one thing I do like. Lower cutting height. 2.5 inches and it looks great. I don’t have to have it so tall and the color is amazing in the summer. And I didn’t have any big fungus issue. What’s your email. I can provide photos.

[@Thelawncarenut]

@@GamerGee [e-mail]

[@GamerGee]

8:47 how does one dethatch the brown

[@Boudii81]

I’m running my own experiment here in Tampa with a blue mix, and actually so far it’s looking better than St. Augustine. Do you recommend any special products other than 16-4-8, with Florida weather?

[@Thelawncarenut]

I don't recommend 16-4-8 here in Florida. We have plenty of phos in our soils naturally. If you download my free app called "yard mastery" it will give you a program based on soil Temps and where you live.

[@Boudii81]

@@Thelawncarenut thank you. The main thing that I’m afraid of since I just seeded, is the influx in our temperature here in the Tampa area! If I put too much nitrogen I might stress, and if I tried to put to much potassium I’ll compact the soil! That’s why I was wondering about your recommendation with a blue mix down here (40% of it is Kentucky Blue). Again thank you.

[@Thelawncarenut]

@@Boudii81 TBH, I have no idea how to take care of KBG here in FL. It's pretty much just like doing a rye overseed and that will look good most of the winter but die in spring when temps and humidity burn it to the ground. I'd be curious to see how far into 2024 it actually lives. But for sure, you will never compact your soil here. It's all sand and our soils lack potassium.

[@Boudii81]

@@Thelawncarenut thank you, I do appreciate your feedback. Last season I tested with Scott’s Rapid grass (sun and shade mix) just to see how it will fair. It did great until May, then i lacking the knowledge I applied a 28-0-0, that was efficient enough to kill about 70% of my back yard. Sorry I get carried away with the lawn story!! Again, thank you for taking the time to respond, I really do appreciate it.

[@Boudii81]

Also, do you use anything post emergent for the tropical signal grass and goose grass?

[@ShadowBox412]

What’s the landscape edging you’re using?

[@Thelawncarenut]

It's a poured curb using a machine called "Lil Bubba"

[@lubblegarage]

Is that wide spray tip compatible with most backpack sprayers?

[@Thelawncarenut]

you have to have the proper elbow and adaptor. My sprayer comes with all of it. If you want to get one separately, they are here:amzn.to/3Me9DsM

[@lubblegarage]

​@@Thelawncarenutthanks so much. Just moved to Jacksonville and your content and products are Lifesavers.

[@chrislindsay3104]

I tried clicking on "FREE guides and newsletter" in the description. I got "404 Not Found"🤣

[@Thelawncarenut]

Thanks for letting me know! we are working on updating everything - we had to change our website which killed a bunch of the links. Here is the newsletter page: thelawncarenut.com/pages/lcn-newsletter-signup

[@kentfaver1367]

Not only do most sprayers leak when you dance/agitate - they leak when you hit the 4 gallon mark - all down the back of my shirt into my jeans and undies. I was sweating so much - I never felt it.

[@Thelawncarenut]

I cringed just thinking about that ha ha!

[@BigBlok502]

I did not realize RGS needed to be watered in, I have not been doing that.

[@Thelawncarenut]

It gets into the soil eventually if you are mulching your clippings but that can take much longer. So from now on, be sure you water it in.

[@BigBlok502]

@@Thelawncarenut thank you, I'm in Central Florida and will be putting the RGS down this wednesday.

[@ValorGhost]

I have a bottle from 2021 and it says do 5.2 grams per 1000 sq ft. Your video mentioned 13 something. Which is accurate?😊

[@Thelawncarenut]

cool season lawns 5.2 grams per gallon for fall. Warm season lawns 13 grams per gallon for fall. There are different allowances for the differing grass types.

[@ValorGhost]

Thank you

[@jaybutler9797]

I was under the impression that it requires a lower soil temp for the pre-emergent. 75 temp here in Central Fl.

[@Thelawncarenut]

we are year round here when it comes to pre-emergents, really different climate. Here is the Florida ebook that can help shed some light on it drive.google.com/file/d/1Dz51F3IItye8Cv-R9ocu-z5sAUpCqMms/view

[@jw7734]

@thelawncarenut would this ebook apply to a centipede/st Augustine lawn located in southeast Alabama?

[@Thelawncarenut]

@@jw7734 it can be helpful if your lawn doesn't go dormant in winter for sure.

[@jw7734]

@@Thelawncarenut mine is mostly Centipede and it does go dormant. I will still use the ebook along with asking questions before (and after) I purchase products. The Yard Mastery customer service team is amazing - they have provided unmatched customer service to me, which is so refreshing in this age of little or no customer service anywhere. Thank you for all you do!

[@csjr9]

"I've been getting it up for years." Sponsored by gas station pills...lol

[@joeking6309]

I cried a little when you pulled up that stolen.😒

[@robertlevy4613]

Same it hurt my soul

[@TheGav0071]

Don't know where you think you live, but here in Bradenton we haven't had rain in atleast 2 months. Its been a very dry year and our lawns have suffered from it.

[@Thelawncarenut]

yes I'm in Bradenton too. That's why I posted the clip of Denis Philips showing the drought. We actually did get some rain in August that was enough to keep lawns from suffering too badly (including hurricane Idalia) but before that, you are correct, severe drought. I know this because I mow my neighbor's lawn and he doesn't run his irrigation - his lawn has been just fine the last 45-60 days but now you can see it drying up. And keep in mind, I speak to all of FL and the east coast had the opposite of us - they had massive flooding and downpours

[@meagaindave2049]

​@Thelawncarenut yes, exactly. I'm on the east coast of Florida. Palm Coast, to be exact. Between the cities of St. Augustine and Daytona Beach. We've had so much rain that I'm grateful for dry season to arrive. I use a water gauge that I poke into the soil to gauge the moisture. The needle will point to red (dry) green (perfect) and blue (saturated.) Wherever I gauge my lawn, the needle points to blue. By the time it gauges on green, the dormancy will possibly go into full effect. 🤷‍♂️

[@Sam-hj8hy]

You didn't pull that dog fennel by the sprinkler head right at the end of the video!

[@Thelawncarenut]

I know! Missed opportunity. 🤣

[@JohnDoe-1111]

14:34 - That’s what she said.

[@cyclingsafely]

what does ASMR mean in the video?

[@Thelawncarenut]

google it. It's an entire genre of content. Enjoy the rabbit hole 😂

[@cyclingsafely]

Thanks Brother, I appreciate you and all your content. @@Thelawncarenut

[@cyclingsafely]

Well, this is interesting... Autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR) is a tingling sensation that usually begins on the scalp and moves down the back of the neck and upper spine. A pleasant form of paresthesia, it has been compared with auditory-tactile synesthesia and may overlap with frisson. ASMR is a subjective experience of "low-grade euphoria" characterized by "a combination of positive feelings and a distinct static-like tingling sensation on the skin." It is most commonly triggered by specific auditory or visual stimuli, and less commonly by intentional attention control.

[@devin9880]

Florida has a FALL ??? Try living in Idaho

[@joeywarren7156]

That looks more like crab grass

[@antonioervin6627]

Why not just say crabgrass, their both the same(grassy weeds)

[@elian222]

5 oz of Prodiamine WG for $26?!?! It should be at least a pound for that. Come on man...

[@Thelawncarenut]

if you can find a pound of it retail online for $26 shipped please let me know!

[@lawnpanda]

scared to wake up the neighbors? Must have been early when you found the bahia

[@Miguel-pm2mo]

Moment of silence for that grass stolen 😢

[@stjaxn]

Oh it hurts me when you start yanking on good grass....

[@Thelawncarenut]

Me too !

[@tweetybird7668]

Alan, how come you weren't wearing any PPE spraying that brew, not even boots, your wife going to beat on you.

[@Thelawncarenut]

Maybe watch again. I had on full PPE including spray boots. 😁

[@tweetybird7668]

@@Thelawncarenut be careful not worth inhaling that stuff, besides it will turn your hair silver.

[@MeLlamoDJ]

Much prefer that subdued BAHIA GRASS exclamation. The yelling and over modulation has gotten old.

[@SingleStacked]

I cringe every time I see you rip out those beautiful stolens...

[@coryhyatt2035]

Please dont go back to those overly edited videos. These are much better.

[@Thelawncarenut]

I appreciate the feedback! You and many others have expressed this. I thing what I will do next year is have a mix of both. I'll keep these "weekend updates" going and then do the more formal videos during the week.

[@coryhyatt2035]

@@Thelawncarenut thats great to hear