Fall of the Gurubashi (Deep Dive & Lore Theory) | World of Warcraft

[@vooran]

You do a great job telling these stories as if they actually happened in real life, with theories, historical sites, historical objects, legends and geography. Love it!

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That's how these stories were told in-game, and how you were supposed to read them to begin with. An example of good world building Blizzard don't do nowadays, instead focusing on direct narratives

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@@Pihtorich This!!! I wish Blizzard would go back to these kind of stories.

[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks so much!! :) I'm glad you're enjoying them!

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@@Jediwarlock The pleasure is all mine. Looking forward to the next video - hoping for some The Barrens lore someday!

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[@Jediwarlock]

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[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks so much! Welcome to the Jedi Order :)

[@kristijan8518]

I've been playing WOW for over 15 years, been following tens of channels dedicated to WOWs lore and gameplay. It's amazing how there are still things that I don't know about, I guess that's what makes wow so captivating.

[@Jediwarlock]

There's always more to be discovered! :)

[@IRLlosersQ]

Oh this is great. Basilisk burials?! I never would have suspected all these things could be related like that. But if you reach a little bit, it all makes a lot of sense. The way you unpack WoW lore reminds me a lot of trying to piece together lore in the Souls series from small bits and pieces scattered across the game. I hope there's still a lot of things for you to cover because every upload from you is exciting.

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you!! Yes, I love the Souls series and Souls theory videos have had an impact on my storytelling/videos the past few years ;)

[@PrivateJohnson42]

Incredible work, man. I consider myself a pretty big lore head when it comes to WoW and I had no idea this is a thing. You totally nailed it here, and have inspired me to go digging for my own evidence of cool hidden lore!

[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks so much!! I'm so glad to hear that. :)

[@n0tareas0n]

Would be cool if you made a retcon video(s) from the lore established in WCIII and before to WOW (like the miracle of the dark portal that was destroyed in WCII and opened in BC somehow, considering that Kaelthas went to Draenor via Dalaran). Or the high elven druidism. Great video subbed.

[@Pihtorich]

@@n0tareas0n what about druidism?

[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks so much! That is a good idea... things have definitely changed in between the time periods we get to witness! :o

[@n0tareas0n]

@@Pihtorich it's a reference in the wcI or II manuals. To build the ogre magi unit an altar of storms was needed. That was carved from the runestone at Caer Darrow. Said runestone is ancient and is claimed to have been made by elven druids (suggesting the high elven of Quel'Thalas where more like what the Nelfs became in wciii).

[@Mezer_PoE]

Couldn't agree more with the points made at 17:46 ! Great video :)

[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

[@Anudorini-Talah]

Your videos are the best. I love wat ging a Long vid like this before sleep

[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks! :D

[@kursed1771]

What an amazing video dude, keep it up.

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you! :)

[@ttaaddoo111]

And there it his! Haven't seen it yet, but am looking forward to it!

[@Jediwarlock]

Hope you enjoyed it! :)

[@ttaaddoo111]

I diiiid. Love me some trolls :3

[@frasqai23]

Great video! I like to think the Gurubashi's reverence for the element of water explains why/how the Darkspear sailed all the way onto their islands in the great sea. Maybe their nautical knowledge was even instrumental in helping Thrall's Horde reach Kalimdor! The Orcs were never known to be great seafarers to begin with so it makes sense in my mind XD

[@Jediwarlock]

That's a good idea!! :)

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Loving your content!

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you!! :)

[@coryhafer7285]

Fantastic work. These little details woven together makes me want to play classic again.

[@Jediwarlock]

It's still there if you wanna check it out :D

[@anarchy8263]

this is amazing, i wish this was the direction of classic +

[@Jediwarlock]

Me too!! :D

[@actavisprime514]

The architecture of trolls is so cool. Almost like ancient Mayans. The long stairways leading to an altar like in ZF and in the Hinterlands.

[@Jediwarlock]

I agree! :D

[@philippmuller5129]

New upload from one of the best lore channels on KZbin 🥺

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you!!

[@Soldruid]

I love this. ❤️ and will watch many more of your stories😊

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you!!

[@runswithbears3517]

Awesome video, Jedi!

[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks so much!! And again, thank you so much for helping me investigate this part of the game! I appreciate it :)

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Awesome content! U may just inspire me to run a D&D campaign in Azeroth.

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Thanks so much! :) More ideas for you on the way ;)

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Super vidéo !

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[@Jediwarlock]

Haha, thanks! :)

[@Silly_Illidan]

11:15 this soundtrack in the background has always mesmerized me... 15 years later, still mesmerized

[@Jediwarlock]

One of the best :)

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Love your videos.

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you! :)

[@selwrynn6702]

Yeah I was reading through the wiki this week looking at how the Dwarves came to be, and how at the end of the War of the 3 Hammers Ragnaros was summoned by the Dark Irons which caused Redridge Mountains to become the Searing Gorge & the Burning Steppes. Just like Ragnaros, Neptulon was imprisioned by the titans following their war against the Black Empire, and while we don't know how or when Neptulon was freed again, with how closely tied the Gurubashi are to water through the Tidestone, maybe they had some hand in the ritual to free him. I think it'd make a lot of sense that in the Sundering the Gurubashi delved into their forbidden lore, seeking to summon Neptulon to protect them from the Sundering, in return for his freedom he'd grant them a piece of his powers through the Tidestone so long as they didn't misuse it or something, when they did misuse it he punished them, but he still kept to the deal, sending them the Tidestone every so often.

[@Pihtorich]

Why would you think he was freed? As far as I remember all throughout vanilla he's mentioned to reside in his own plane

[@Jediwarlock]

That's a good idea! It's true we don't know how or when exactly he escaped, but that is very much a possibility! Part of me also thinks after the Sundering the Elemental Plane was weakened somehow and elementals had an easier time making it to Azeroth again... Neptulon also seems to be the "nicest" of the four Lords and it's also possible he somehow negotiated a release from the Plane as long as he didn't go cause chaos like in the Black Empire days.

[@lasicakdandous2377]

I hope we can get more theories about troll tribes and such i would love to hear how gazzrila got into ZF

[@Jediwarlock]

Potentially! :D

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watching WoW lore video mentioning blue crystals immediately after watching some Breaking Bad video feels surreal :D

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"Jesse, it's time to raid."

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[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

Trolls are rad! I hope they start winning eventually. FOR ZUL'JIN!

[@Jediwarlock]

TAZ'DINGO!

[@jackolantern404]

Bravo 👏

[@Jediwarlock]

Thank you! :)

[@cenotemirror]

You know, if you fast-forward to Mists of Pandaria you will find an Emperor's tomb and temple located in a very large mountain that is connected heavily to the Gurubashi and Zandalari. In a zone above a holy vale. Coincidence, retcon, or background lore that finally made it in?

[@Jediwarlock]

HMM, very interesting! :D

[@General12th]

Hi Jedi! I wonder if the game would be better if more hints like these were dropped during various questlines. Basically, the developers make these theories canon and put just enough information in the game that enterprising players could figure it out, while everyone else can simply enjoy the historical ambiance and appreciate how it probably does point to something real.

[@Jediwarlock]

I agree! I think that would be very cool. Plus, with the hype of the Souls games having very vague/mysterious lore, I think this could fit traditional WoW questing very well too!

[@PazOfficial]

Great video, just ensure you aren't bumping your mic while talking :)

[@Jediwarlock]

Haha, thank you! I fixed the mic issue, after moving my desk setup the mic got turned around so it was causing some weird issues. XD

[@PazOfficial]

@ ah! Hopefully should be all good moving forward then. Keep up the great content!

[@DIEGhostfish]

4:22 I mean early lore had the Silithid uplifted from regular insects and then the Aqir from the Silithid and the Nerubians and Qiraji from the Aqir, later lore reversed it so the Aqir are just from Old God flesh and the Quiraji, Silithid, Nerubians, and Mantid descend from there

[@Jediwarlock]

Good points! Thank you for the details :)

[@TheRealCeeJai]

8:30 This would have made for (or could still make for) a GREAT boss in (another update to) ZG or a new, recently uncovered troll city, etc. I could imagine that boss having mechanics where they phase out becoming invincible and you have to break something or somesuch to make them corporeal again while dealing with Tide Elemental adds. It would be a great way to tie in old, one-off legend lore from questing that otherwise would just be thrown away for the most part.

[@Jediwarlock]

That would be awesome! :D With SoD adding another boss to Molten Core already, I'm curious to see what they'll do for the future phases!

[@EggeFett]

If I remember correctly (I didn't bother to look it up), there was a piece of lore stating that Farraki and Zul'Farrak was build to fight with Silithid and Quiraji and those scarabs are actually cursed Silithids. I don't remember if this comes from the classic era or from retail.

[@Jediwarlock]

That's a good point! When researching this vid I stumbled across something similar in Chronicle... Zul'Farrak was a major bastion of trolls against the early silithid... it's possible some of them evolved over time to become the common scarabs :)

[@EggeFett]

@@Jediwarlock Weren't they turned into scarabs by Theka the Martyr? I believe that's why he wonders around them in Zul'Farrak. Also it's very interesting that a faction of trolls fighting Old Gods ended up worshipping a hydra...

[@Silly_Illidan]

Neptulon. The elemental lord who never needed to be summoned from his plane...he casually swam to azeroth

[@Jediwarlock]

Yeah XD It's not clear exactly how/when he "escaped" the Plane but there's definitely evidence of him hanging around!

[@christianmeier1866]

great video realy likedt it but what is the noice in the background

[@Jediwarlock]

A random Windows notification appeared on my desktop right before I started recording and I didn't hear/notice it until after I had gone through the entire script XD So the little pings are just from my computer :)

[@Laurannah101]

@@Jediwarlock no its not that, its your mic picking up vibrations from your desk. im guessing a pop filter hitting it or something nearby

[@ServingSass]

The newscaster voice is strong with this one.

[@Jediwarlock]

:D

[@Pihtorich]

Perhaps this is just how basilisks hunt - they petrify their victims to prepare them for consumption. Like spiders, but with a twist

[@Jediwarlock]

Definitely!

[@Nagria2112]

do you believe the trolls where alive at the time of the old gods? "curse of flesh" always felt weired to me coming from the void. thats more of a life thing because in Lore the Void strips away your flesh. i think that a very interesting idea to explore.

[@Jediwarlock]

During the Black Empire? I doubt it but it could be possible!

[@Chetatti]

How do you do these camera shots? For example 2:43 camera is moving upwards, how does one achieve that?

[@honoratagold]

A lot of WoW KZbinrs/machinima artists/etc. do these kind of shots/camera tricks by having their own personal offline private clients/servers where they can give themselves GM powers. In this case, I believe it's done by taking a character, make it able to fly via GM powers, go into first person mode, and using that to emulate a panning camera.

[@Jediwarlock]

Yes, I (and other KZbinrs too) use personal or private servers to accomplish the camera shots. :)

[@Chetatti]

@@honoratagold thank you for the info!

[@geodageo]

Do you think it is there a connection between Tidestone of Golganneth and the Stone of the Tides?

[@Jediwarlock]

Possibly! Especially if Neptulon had turned against the Old Gods/other elemental lords sooner than we know about... then he could have been working with the Titans or Keepers to seal away the "bad" elementals and potentially would be involved with things like the Pillars of Creation :)

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Watching your videos makes me very nostalgic and makes me want to play Vanilla wow again. But I know it would NOT be the same. I also no longer agree with Activision/Blizzard, so I can't morally give them more money. But I will always have a Love for the game "World of Warcraft". I played this game since its 2nd year, close to the release of the TBC up to DragonFlight, up to the Bronze Dragonflight patch....but I can't. No more Retail wow. But I often want to play the old game up to before Cataclism.

[@Jediwarlock]

It was truly the best era of WoW! There are always private/personal servers out there too if you aren't a fan of Blizz servers. :)

[@ZoeLycan]

@@Jediwarlock I've been trying to detox me self from spending 8-12h playing wow every day XD but I admit, I miss the good old times. An ideal private server would be one with a very minor increase in exp (some needed fixes) and keep some time events classic Naxx. available all the time. Maybe make some events rotate thought out the year. but that is just my ideal classic server

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Haha, I hope it was worth it!! :D Thanks for watching!

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[@lasicakdandous2377]

could you please do a theory about the rare gnolls plagueing the lands of the aliance like sergant brashclaw if there is any lore into them

[@Jediwarlock]

Interesting! I'll have to check him out :)

[@lasicakdandous2377]

@@Jediwarlock alright thank you so much there's 2 in redridge from what i know one is named rib something and the other one is in the cave near fangore in a cave he is stealthed and i think there is one in elwyn in hogger's camp

[@Senio6667]

blue crystal is the tear of elune

[@Jediwarlock]

Interesting idea! :o

[@Laurannah101]

you need to adjust your desk microphone i can hear banging or something constantly, it sounds like your mic is picking up sounds of itself vibrating

[@Jediwarlock]

Yeah for a week or two my mic was acting wack, I got it fixed recently though! :D Should be better now and I know how to fix it again if it acts up.

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[@Jediwarlock]

Whaaaat?? XD

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[@Jediwarlock]

Thanks so much! I love Souls games and the lore channels definitely have been an inspiration for me ;)

[@Nagria2112]

i think its a major error to see an ongoing story as fully fact. every good story has twists and turns. i personally do not believe the titan created us. i think the old gods or azeroth herself did it. Titans stole it and ordered it.

[@Jediwarlock]

Interesting idea!!

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Does he know?! He doesn't know … of course. Why would he? He never tapped Turtle WoW.

[@Jediwarlock]

I haven't tapped it... yet! :D

[@a.f.7650]

@@Jediwarlock yeah … let us know if you'll decide to make a new channel dedicated to it.

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First lol

[@Jediwarlock]

Nice! :D