Fall Out Boy - MANIA - Album Review

[@kialyreaulo3448]

I really didn't like Young and Menace, but Fall Out Boy is still a good band for me. They will always have songs that I don't like, but they will also have songs that I will really love, and those outweigh those I don't like. And I suppose that's what matters.

[@Dreigonix]

+Lokisaurus I agree.

[@artvjon]

The bass line in Sunshine Riptide is an absolute train wreck. Great review dude.

[@SeananigansShow]

We are truly on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to Mania lol. The bass in Sunshine Riptide is the best bass line on the album and what makes the song so great imo. What was so bad about it if I may ask?

[@434wolf]

Its just thrown in likea pile of... garbage, too much of what no one expects when they first listen to it. Also the reggae artist is just god awfull, it would have been better to throw in a reggae style guitar solo from Joe instead of Burna boy mumbling on the track. I still appreciate them makeing any music at all than none, and ive been a huge fan of them and think Folie a duex is their best work by far, but this... in comparison to any other album is just not good.

[@steveempiremantra2120]

Alternate Buttons agreed

[@shaegd141]

This review makes me really sad because as a really big fall out boy fan who does genuinely enjoy mania I still can’t deny that he is just right. This album doesn’t even hold a candle to their past albums and it’s really a bummer that they’ve reached a creative burnout like this. I think mark is right, they need to take a break.

[@sinisterinspace]

Spacebro007 oh god not again... but yea I can see what you're talking bout

[@thema1998]

Spacebro007 How would a second break help Fall Out Boy?

[@xenon4916]

Spacebro007 thank you

[@xenon4916]

I actually like this album as much as other albums

[@Ragwiid]

I guess we're all here at the beginning of the end of infinity together

[@anauxiliatrix3484]

4/10 is very generous.

[@flabscary4223]

I'd say 7/10. Say I'm stupid but I liked it

[@mariokarter13]

I like how some of the songs play into the next track. _If you were Church, I'd get on my knees / Give me a boost over Heaven's Gate_ _I was Young and a Menace / If I can live through this I can do anything_

[@bellardz8217]

i haven’t watched the video yet, i’m a hardcore fob fan. i genuinely enjoy mania tbh, and i know they’re trying to branch out to different styles, but this just isn’t the one for them, yknow? young and menace was a mess, but it was saved by the piano version. compared to their other albums, mania was a “meh” kind. i suggest they leave the mania style behind, again, they’re bored of their old sound, and they’re trying to branch out, i understand that. but this isn’t the style for them. mania: 7/10 *EDIT:* i finished the video. i agree with this guy, i truly believe they need a break and come back fresh.

[@bellardz8217]

mania was still a huge bop tho lmao

[@iam9991000]

Yeah, I'm not surprised by this. Especially after Young & Menace.

[@Egbert2011Games]

The rest of the album is, thankfully, nowhere near as bad as that abomination. ....still pretty bad, but I wasn't curled up in a ball begging for it to stop lol

[@gibbygibb4686]

wow I can't believe you called Young & Menace the best song on the album by a mile

[@scottrohrbeck7672]

So is this gonna be a thing on every comments section of his now?!

[@rudy24286]

Scott Rohrbeck Unfortunately lol

[@gibbygibb4686]

Every comment section should speak the truth

[@quentinchilds4007]

Gibby SwagMoney Fantano memes are spreading faster than a wildfire in a 10,000 acre forest.

[@scottrohrbeck7672]

First Last Well, may as well get the drinks out then.

[@buffmalibu9669]

I liked your review and I respect you a lot Mark, but calling Young and Menace the “worst thing to happen to the world since Hitler’s suicide” seemed a bit of a stretch

[@wadekemmsies7180]

That's fantanos meme

[@mikerivera373]

How was Hitler’s suicide a bad thing?

[@thatsme2044]

Mike’s Music Reviews wow

[@mikerivera373]

Thats me wow what? It put an end to a lot of people suffering the most inhumane punishment for existing one could possibly imagine. Yes, every life matters, but are we really gonna feel bad over the death of FUCKING HITLER?!

[@samcampanella7372]

Mike’s Music Reviews if you watch anthony fantano, there’s an ongoing meme among his viewers that goes something like “good review, but you didn’t have to call [artist or album] [insert awful thing here]” and other variations of that. this comment is just a spin on that meme, nothing more.

[@doofenshmirtz2536]

honestly I kind off liked this album especially expensive mistakes or church

[@TECfan1]

I would definitely like them to take a break after this for a few years and...mature a little? I mean they are getting up there in age. I know they can do something with much more quality than this, because I've seen it. No it doesn't have to be punk rock again, but at least something that is more dynamic and interesting, shows their talents (that they DO have plenty of) and has some actual rich lyrical content. I, like you said, feel like this album was very bare-boned. I enjoyed it fine enough and thought the hooks were just as catchy as ever, but the lyrics just feel....empty.

[@TECfan1]

Xerion Well the hiatus before was for different reasons. I guess I mean more a longer break in between albums this time. Pete just needs to get his shit together ha. And they all need more time to come up with better content.

[@sinisterinspace]

Agreed. Enjoyed the album but lyrics were meh.

[@labota249]

I saw your face on the thumbnail and it was the exact representation of my feelings for this album. I had supported them even in Save Rock and Roll. Folie á Deux continues to be my favorite album, I find FOB more recent projects unlistenable now.

[@dichotomae]

Okay, but I really really REALLY love Sunshine Riptide

[@ahumanbeing8495]

I Agree! BTW i am a big fan!!

[@thewalruscaesar]

Honestly, my biggest problem with the album is that the two halves feel completely different from each other. With the delay, if feels like to me, that the second half was made with a completely different tone and made way after the first half.

[@arcanemaster8722]

I loved this album :D, but good review. Favorites (I have a ton so I’ll Limit it to 3) - Wilson (Expensive Mistakes), Stay Frosty Royal Milk Tea, Hold Me Tight Or Don’t Least Favorites - Young And Menace, Church

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Wilson is awesome!!!!!!

[@perseusbolt3591]

Yeah same man

[@Franz_Morhart]

This album was overall pretty "meh" to me. There were a few songs I HATED (Young and Menace) but 90% of the songs I was ambivalent towards. The only song that I thought rivaled the qualities of past albums was "Last of the Real Ones" and, being as the song was out as a single before the album was released (along with half the fucking CD) I'm not sure this was worth the money I spent on it for any other reason than the need to complete my Fall Out Boy collection.

[@secondavenger9775]

"Fall Out Boy (kind of) sell out with messy results". Where have you been since 2012 Mark? they sold out a long time ago, people have been calling them Sell Out Boy for years now.

[@krampusplague]

Second Avenger glad they aren't emo anymore lol. Their new stuff is way better

[@secondavenger9775]

Maariya NR selling out is when you sacrifice artistic integrity for commercial success and change your music to conform to what's popular. I really love Save Rock and Roll and most of AB/AP, but they did sell out. It's not just that they changed their sound, it's that they decided to chase popular trends, not even popular trends in Rock, popular trends in POP. If say they made a Nu Metal album and it was absolutely horrible, I would call that artistic growth. Every album post-hiatus has been less and less Rock catered and more and more mainstream pop catered, and on top of that their writing has been dumbed down a lot too. Again, I still love FOB, but they did sell out.

[@secondavenger9775]

KrampusPlague So You've never actually heard any of their first 4 albums and judged them purley off of what other people said about them? Okay.

[@secondavenger9775]

Maariya Nr That's one great thing about Fall Out Boy, their original 4 album run was so strong and earned them such a loyal fanbase that they could still go back to their old sound and the fans would treat it like the old FOB never left. Maroon 5 could never go back to their old sound, their old fans would never take them back after how much they changed. I hope FOB does what Linkin Park did with The Hunting Party and make an album that's for the fans rather than the radio, but I don't think Pete Wentz would do that since he seems like a businessman first and an artist second these days.

[@thema1998]

KrampusPlague Do you think "MANIA" is better than any of their previous four albums? You say their new stuff is better.

[@crystals4ever]

Great review. Props for taking the time to do this and waiting til it officially came out. And finding some good in the bad, but not sugar coating it either. I think I only like half the songs. I was expecting it to be worse after Young and Menace, so my expectations was low. Maybe that's why this album is just okay to me. Not as bad as people are making it out to be but not that good either. I like the milk tea one, Hold Me Tight Or Don't, The Last Of The Real Ones, Wilson, and Church. I think that's like half of the songs, so I'll give it a 5/10

[@kevinwilley4180]

When you mentioned that this album had space symbolism, my thoughts went that this album is them reaching space, but running out of fuel and burning up in re-entry.

[@merchantmahogany]

perfect metaphor for their post-hiatus career as a whole tbh. with save rock and roll, they launched into space, american beauty/american psycho was a comfortable orbit, they ran out of fuel with the release of young and menace and despite every emergency mechanism the metaphorical satellite had, it's just burning rubble on the ground.

[@4StringSickoSIXX]

the intro to like a phoenix is sampled from a german hip hop song called "Alles Neu(All new)" by Peter Fox

[@restlessbohemian]

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to notice how bitter the tones of some of these songs are. As a longtime fan, I’m conflicted. I’m glad they’re back and have been for a while now. I saw them live with my roommate a few months back, and Pete told the crowd that Fall Out Boy was going to be with us, and I quote, “to the fucking end.” They, as a band, would be there for us until everything went up and smoke...but I don’t want that if they don’t want it. Nonetheless, I’ll admit that I fucking love this record. I just hope you’re wrong and they aren’t as burned out as they sound on some of these songs.

[@merchantmahogany]

four years later and it's becoming abundantly clear fall out boy is in fact burnt out. what little they've released since also suggests they're struggling to find a musical identity. mostly agree with the review, but i prefer heaven's gate to church. i know they can make great music, hell soul punk showed that patrick knows how to make great pop, so i'm with you in hoping they get that spark back.

[@awookieandagerman]

Great review, after listening I was dismayed to see so much love and approval for this absolute wreck of an album on the Fall Out Boy reddit page. Now I'm glad reason still prevails out there somewhere.

[@Sam-hk7xt]

Idk wth is wrong with me lol, I literally like almost all the albums everyone hates and idk y. I love AJR, I love this album, Young and Menace being my favorite on the album. Should I look at all Fantano mans 0's and have a spotify party?

[@villainessy]

I was disappointed by pretty much every element of the album because it all felt so rushed and uninspired, but the lyrics had to be the most disappointing aspect for me and at times it actually pissed me off a bit. The album is titled MANIA which implies that the theme would be around Pete’s struggle with bipolar disorder, something that’s been extremely prevalent and powerfully expressed in his lyrics throughout previous records (particularly in Folie A Deux), but what we got instead sounds phoned in and forced with no substance. It’s a huge let down to me because I have struggled with bipolar disorder myself, and Pete’s lyrics had a huge impact on me prior to SR&R. I don’t know I’ve kinda given up on this band.

[@semicharmedkindofguy3088]

Agreed on the over production. You have to listen to the live versions to really appreciate the songs.

[@1tsacult]

Ok I’m fine with people disliking Mania, like people have different tastes in music and shit, but it does irritate me when people start bringing out sell out into the picture, if you understood what the hell this band was about you would know they aren’t about selling out. My friend and I have also had a great time deconstructing different lyrics from nearly all of the songs but hey, we clearly disagree on how good this album is, which doesn’t surprise me, many people disliked this album.

[@tommydolan4281]

how was THIS the sell out point?

[@ryanschlosser6531]

They split up at one point and came back with save rock and roll. they didn’t exactly sell out, they just changed.

[@merchantmahogany]

this was the point where it stopped being a somewhat more commercial lean but still good to having their artistic integrity undeniably come second. depends on what you call a sellout, although i know some fob fans that don't consider even this a sellout.

[@emilyoswin3830]

I think they’re burnt out because of how throughout almost all of the production they were on tour, I can’t imagine that would help at all with production of an album

[@KaisTestKitchen1]

American Beauty/American Pyscho was awesome

[@tom.3280]

Am I the only one here who likes fall out boy?!

[@MysticClaws100]

Plenty of people here like FOB. But very few like this new album

[@tom.3280]

MysticManiac100 am I the only one that likes M A N I A then

[@MysticClaws100]

Probably lol

[@elt1862]

I actually enjoy the album, I'd give it a 6.5-7/10

[@sinisterinspace]

No no definitly not and the album was great, but not as good as folie... but I enjoyed it and were listening to it since it got released and bought the cd on the first day and listened to it the first time on the cd and loved every single track (well maybe except for champion, cause it's so uninteresting)... but on a couple tracks I can see the lyric problem too.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Young and Menace sucks, but I LOVE Wilson (Expensive Mistakes). It's such a cheesy and fun song, with interesting lyrics, and a fantastic music video.

[@Jeoloseph]

I love mania and young and menace and all the songs on it

[@highviewarts]

Hey... you should check out a better album and listen to "vertigo" by EDEN. Would love to see your opinion on his debut album :) Also, gotta be that guy... I don't really mind Young & Menace. I know, I realize it's not that good of a song. But I can jam to it a bit if it comes on while I'm driving tbh. That's about all that song is good for. However, this album is just quite disappointing.

[@benjibuttons6380]

Shocked by all the negative reviews this album has gotten. I think its pretty good. A unique listen, hopefully it gains some more positive reviews as it ages.

[@sonicjrjr14]

Benji Buttons I agree. I personally enjoyed it a lot.

[@sinisterinspace]

Yea I hope too, tho lots of lyrics were idk. Well I can see good lines too, so I guess... idk I like it.

[@redherring74]

I liked it... I could do without the cameo from Burma boy in sunshine riptide and some of the tracks were all over the place but I don’t think it was their worst album I really like Wilson and last of the real ones I thought they were very interesting songs

[@criley386]

I feel like they need a new producer. Badly. I'm still really annoyed that they're autotuning and filtering Patrick's voice on almost every song. It was my biggest gripe with AB/AP, and it's one of my biggest gripes now. I actually love Heaven's Gate. Imo Wilson and Champion are the worst songs. WHERE IS JOE? I CANT HEAR HIM! I think the most awful thing about Young and Menace is the lost potential. The verses are great and I love the bridge, but the chorus is a clusterfuck. Still I'll rate this a 6/10. There are some catchy songs and good writing is abound in their non-singles.

[@sinisterinspace]

I love heaven's gate too, espacially Patrick's vocals. I don't like champion either, cause I found it uninteresting, but I like the other songs a lot.

[@benallan2328]

3/10 Best Tracks: "Church", "Wilson (Expensive Mistakes)", "Hold Me Tight Or Don't" Worst Tracks: "Heaven's Gate", "Sunshine Riptide" ft. Burna Boy, "Young And Menace"

[@ParkRanger2000]

Love this album.

[@emilyoswin3830]

I like sunshine riptide...

[@chelsiesawyer7465]

I've listened to this album like 10 times and I GENUINELY DON'T REMEMBER; Sunshine Riptide, Heavens Gate or Bishops Knife Trick....

[@becky7866]

my personal favourites are wilson, last of the real ones and hold me tight or don't and even those are nothing compared to what they've done before. the rest of the songs were either forgettable or plain awful which is a shame because i love fall out boy and i know what they're capable of. it's just frustrating to listen to this album

[@mikethegrunty5968]

New to the channel. I dig what you’re doing😊

[@nathanalbright]

One word review: slapdash.

[@eggboi8654]

If you take young and menace as a party song it kinda works... a bit? I actually really like hold me tight or dont,Wilson(expensive mistakes), and church and I think there good songs. Stay frosty is good to. It’s overall a decent album with only a few bad songs. It’s just all over the place and that’s it’s downfall. I honestly hate sunshine riptide and would much rather listen to young and menace than it.

[@tombroskiboiiii1915]

They sold out from save rock and roll area

[@JonathanLopez-xn7lm]

Just because they're trying a new sound doesnt mean they've sold out, get your fact straight but great video as always

[@jdh21403]

I bought a Mania CD only because I collect Fall Out Boy stuff

[@The110014]

I’m a huge FOB fan! Yes this album is probably the worst of their career. However, the clumsy attempt at a drop in “Young and a Menace” leads me to believe that there’s potential for some really awesome music if they collaborated with some great EDM producers.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

They could maybe go the Selena Gonez route and be featured on EDM tracks? Lately she's struck gold with producers like Kygo, Zedd and even Marshmello

[@JaediasDragonChronicle]

Have you listened to Back to Earth, the track they did with Steve Aoki?

[@xenon4916]

Why is everyone hating on the album, I find it catchy

[@fax0_max114]

SkyMazter FTW catchy doesnt mean good

[@sabrinamiah15]

I'm enjoying The Last Of The Real Ones, it's sad to hear there's not a better song than that track on the album. Doesn't make me want to check it out. From what I've heard, the production and over processed vocals seem grating, making the songs are hard to listen to.

[@MusicNerdDavid]

Been waiting to hear you talk about young and menace for like 8 months now. Fuck this album Best songs: The last of the real ones, Wilson (Expensive mistakes), Bishop's Knife Trick Worst songs: EVERYTHING ELSE 2/10

[@Jaeinluv]

I Totally agree with almost everything you've said wowie

[@maxpalmer3212]

They should of taken a longer hiatus

[@vincentm1212]

all the talent they used to showcase on their older albums and still do have is completely wasted on this album as this is such a simplistic album void of much depth. such a shame as their last album was so good and so promising for the next album. instead we get this. i love this bands early albums and american beauty american physcho. this album is such a disappointment because i know they are capable of so much more. i hope they get get their heads out of their asses for the next album

[@jonathangillis4926]

Thank you for finally roasting this album 👌🤘

[@NebLleb]

This album was soooo bad... Crash Thompson's review made me want to check it out, but I made a terrible mistake!

[@bleb905]

I don’t think they’ve sold out, but I would understand why people would think that. They’re called a “pop-punk band” for a reason, they’re influenced by pop music and what’s trending obviously, but they still care about the music they’re making. I mean c’mon, they literally scrapped half of MANIA because they weren’t proud of it! Yeah, the record label promoted the album A LOT, but they doesn’t necessarily mean that they’ve sold out. Sorry, but that’s what I think :/

[@ryanschlosser6531]

Young and menace is horrible, but I still love it

[@_aliceee1049]

I honestly tried to like mania but i can’t

[@lifeonmarsden5176]

You say this like Fall Out Boy has never had mainstream success before, they absolutely have

[@sleepdeprivedpikachu7235]

This album is a complete fucking disaster but it’s a disaster that I have a soft spot for. I think the closing track is generally overlooked, even though the reverb is a bit too much. I personally don’t mind Sunshine Riptide, and if the production issues were cleaned up, I would like it even more.

[@DashieNegan41]

It deserves a low 4 just like Black Veil Brides it's a pretty decent album but it has problems it gets boring

[@jaidamoon2993]

Prob one of my fave fob albums.... 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️😅

[@emilyoswin3830]

I think they started off trying to make something pop-like but then gave up halfway through which is why the album sounds so strange

[@emilyoswin3830]

Also I feel like the album may need to have been delayed again but as it was already delayed they couldn’t do it again

[@artificialgummies7416]

I’ve been waiting for this. I appreciate your opinion but you didn’t have to equate Folie a Deux to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

[@macion9481]

Take those memes back to melon's channel XD

[@thema1998]

Monica LW Who is Melon?

[@macion9481]

Melon is Anthony Fantano, or the needle drop. His comment section is full of those memes.

[@artificialgummies7416]

...huh?

[@maxpalmer3212]

FalloutBoy died in 2008 but if they want to crawl out of the grave they need to go back to there pop punk roots

[@gushill4397]

Young and Menace is the best track on this thing

[@BluRayMan12]

Young and Menace is one of the worst songs of the decade.

[@quentinchilds4007]

BluRayMan12 That song, "Look What You Made Me Do", "Harlem Shake", "Gucci Gang", "What Does the Fox Say", "Swalla", "Hello Kitty", any song by Design the Skyline and Blood on the Dance Floor, any mumble rap song are the worst songs of the decade, in my (possibly everybody's) opinion.

[@BluRayMan12]

Also, any song by Brokencyde

[@johnjoe190]

Quentin Childs All of these are masterpieces compared to Happy Ending by Hopsin lol

[@scottrohrbeck7672]

I've seen quite a few apologists for Swalla, actually. And how can you not mention Meghan Meghans with Dear Future Husband, Marvin Gaye, and worst of all, Me Too.

[@alison2987]

I mean no... c’mon it’s not even thaaat bad compared to other songs

[@gabrielpaiva9070-u2y]

I ain't gonna lie I love FOB and this album was very dissapointing

[@zt_svanon986]

Finally someone else realize falloutboy fell of a decade ago

[@ethantone4074]

First and appropriate score for the album

[@hannahrose5546]

The production and lyrics were the issues on this album. I loved the melodies. But once you add the lyrics and over produce everything, it just folds.

[@mjtubeme]

Review Fetty Wap Please

[@sonofjesus9923]

The new fall out boy album NOT GOOD

[@meow_toki]

Idk I love EACH song from this album and Young and Menace is the best one for me. I listen to ALL of them every day 100500 times... QQ

[@brianhitzone37]

Jon & Hannah from ARTV are gonna rake you over the coals......lol.

[@tyreliverson7841]

brianhitzone37 why neither of them were huge fans of this album either?

[@josephtafur]

Jon dislike this album Hannah dislike this album Mark dislike this album It's FOB worst album

[@artvjon]

Wtf are you smoking? We hated the first 2 singles and both gave the album a negative review lol. I barely rated it higher than Mark!

[@josephtafur]

ARTV i know you both dislike this album.

[@brianhitzone37]

Oh oops sorry. I thought you were big FOB fans. The song 'hold me tight or dont' is not bad.

[@cometthestar6575]

I... see his point, but... this made me kind of upset? I do like some of the songs he completely bashed, but MAN this was a bit far. Saying they should go on hiatus? Again? Are you trying to kill the fan base?

[@lvndrr_dashboard]

Deserves a 1/10 honestly

[@superluigi2254]

Church was my least favorite song lol

[@fax0_max114]

This should be a 2/10

[@alexanderprocter6634]

Sunside riptide is a piece of shit i love most of the album with wilson, church, HMTOD, stay frosty and heavens gate being the best

[@whosthatpanda7935]

I really disliked this album. I'm hoping that it will grow on me after a few more listens. I currently only like 3 songs...

[@joewhite4456]

Do you have to refer to yourself as "this critic", not even written critiques do that let alone video critiques.

[@xenon4916]

Everyone is just hoping on the hate MANIA bandwagon

[@andrewbianchi1294]

FIRST

[@andrewbianchi1294]

Hoo boy, not a good feeling about this one.

[@sllngglttrfrthplstr2832]

mania is supposed to be a trash pile of randomness, because thats how mania sometimes is. The experience of mania is erratic and spontaneous.

[@erlineandrews]

Talk fast. Use a lot of technical terms. I found it hard to follow your points. I'm guessing that was the intent. Mania is a great album. Eat paint.