Fallout 4 Disappoints Me and Fails to Impress

[@GrimHijinks]

The first dialogue in Fallout 4 was just a sign of things to come with the rest of the game: 1. Yes. 2. No (but actually yes.) 3. Sarcastic yes. 4. Tell me more. Also yes.

[@ComradeOgilvy369]

Literally

[@deepsouthredneck1]

Bethesda, we wanted you to improvethe shooter elements, not improve the shooter elements while simultaneously removing the RPG elements that made the previous games great. You will never be able to compete with FPS games, making a mediocre RPG and a mediocre shooter was a terrible idea.

[@nonameguy96]

took the words right out of my mouth

[@dificulttocure]

+dreyrugr It's just a mediocre shooter, I wouldn't even call it a mediocre RPG because that would be saying it's an RPG, which is not.

[@lucifer0247]

+dreyrugr in comparison to Fo3 or NV they didnt remove the RPG Elemtes, the PErksa and Special are even bettert than before! only the dialoge is a little short. But Quests, Story and Gameplay is rly huge and a step forward to previous titles.

[@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis]

Ya I'm sick of it when there are people that are great at one thing and chose to be ok at something else instead.

[@SkyripperThaBird]

+dreyrugr I agree completely, brother of the North. I pre-ordered Fallout 4 on Steam back in October 2015. When I started playing Fallout 4 the 11th of November, I was at first excited for all the things to come, and do. I played for, let's see.. About 5-6 hours. After the first -two- hours of gameplay, I had kind of lost the charm already. What happened? I felt a huge lackluster of roleplaying, it feels as though my character isn't MY character, but rather that I am playing a scripted character's story who simply looks a little bit different. The catch for me in FO3 and FO:NV is: Character! Roles! All the decisions are yours to make! No voiced protagonists, rather, you make up your own voice! What if my character stutters? What if he's got a thick accent? I like to personalize my characters, to give them more depth in my own eyes. The shooter elements in the older games are, yes, not very good. Rather awful. Fallout 4 fixed the shooter elements, but holy fuck, they REALLY focused on the shooter elements and threw the roleplaying element down the drain. Hail to the Gods!

[@Elric_]

In Fallout 2, I BECAME a pornstar. In Fallout 4, I WAS an ex soldier looking for his son. That's the big difference

[@jeffbryant792]

I think you might be under estimating how imaginative fallout 4s fan base is look at fugitmuppet character builds

[@SqualidsargeStudios]

Roy Bryant don't they all go down the same path? Like shoot stuff loot some crap and shoot some more? In f3 and NV you could talk your way to get said crap, instead of shooting your way to the crap.

[@Dorkeydaze]

Roy Bryant Is essence you can do that to any game of you choose to ignore the game. For instance if I was playing gears of war 3 and I was shooting locus than I can tell myself “I’m a solider in the NCR army.” I’ll believe it but no one else in game will repoint as such. In new Vegas you can be ANYONE in fallout 4 you can PRETEND to be anyone, but that doesn’t change the fact you have a son name Shawn and a ugly wife name Nora

[@cultofmalgus1310]

@@jeffbryant792 in order to enjoy F4 I have to speed spam the X button so the voice doesnt ruin my RP. Also I required a mod to kill Preston and the others in the Museum. I didnt realize how much hated those fuckers until i realized I had kept my finger on a never ending automatic trigger for 2 solid minutes.

[@Gakusangi]

@@jeffbryant792 He wasn't talking about a build. He was talking about a character. No matter how you spec the character, that character is either going to be an ex-soldier looking for his son, or a lady with a law degree looking for her son.

[@Mancyofsouls]

Fallout New Vegas is better without having your character have a backstory. In Fallout 3 I made my dude an old man... then I realized I was forced to be a teenager... so I was a young old man...

[@ncrrangerveteran5938]

It's me dad, I've been looking for you for 30 years.

[@HalfLifer81]

yeah that's another good thing about nv, your curier backstory can be whatever you want

[@Marcusianery]

Obsidian understood the whole idea with Fallout, Bethesda don't.

[@ackaaa22]

The courier does have a big backstory, they just swept it under the rug with the Bullet to the brain thing.

[@th3gamingpanda230]

3 is better than NV

[@joashex]

I can't replay fallout4. New Vegas on the other hand...

[@psyched.shelby5391]

Exactly, that's the problem. Almost zero replay value and ITS A FALLOUT GAME. Disappointing

[@phteve1900]

Why the fuck are you commenting on this video! You could be starting a NEW character! Speaking of which...

[@Grintelfunk]

Bingo! That is exactly what I'm doing now... Replaying for the x number of times, FNV because it's actually a FO game, not a Todd Howard plot set on rails that you HAVE to follow regardless if you agree or not.

[@waygyanba2195]

Can we imagine fallout new vegas remade with fallout 4 graphics and such?

[@phteve1900]

Ultimate Nibbler Why? A good game with bad graphics is a good game. A bad game with good graphics is Fallout 4. They still hold-up for me, buuuut I totally get what you mean lol. It could do with a REMASTER... I mean if Skyrim got one.(When it didn't need it)

[@joshg.8706]

Come fly with me is probably the best quest you could have chosen. Not many people know this but if you sneak past the nightkin you can help them locate what they were after (crates of steathboys) and find a ghoul who was locked in a room with the stealthboys. help him leave by finding his girlfriend trapped in the basement and you get the stealthboys to give to the nightkin so they leave the ghouls alone giving you a pacifist way to complete the quest. NOTHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS IN FALLOUT 4!

[@slowactingh2012]

There are so many quests in New Vegas where you can just not kill anyone, as opposed to Fallout 4 where your only options are to become a mass murderer

[@OrphanHart]

and it's not only the pacifist option that New Vegas excels at comparatively. Fallout 4 had a worse sneaking experience in general as well for anyone who wanted to role play any thief/assassin/etc due to bad a.i., placement, weapon options, and level design.

[@jeremyhearne]

Holy shit. I didnt know you could do that!

[@hoppyman11]

In fallout New Vegas if your character had a silver enough tongue, you could prove strategically why your faction had the upper hand to the final boss on both sides and they'd leave and you'd beat the game! You could theoretically go through the whole game without shooting a single bullet, you could disguise yourself as the enemy faction and pass by them on the road so long as you don't get too close. In Fallout 4 you can't be bad at combat, you just can't. They're good with every weapon they pick up, sure. You could sway the points more in one way or another, but never will your character pick up a weapon type they're unfamiliar with and you won't need to buff up their points to strive towards it or make a whole new character suited towards different strengths.

[@tselis]

I like what new vegas does. It gives backstory. The nightkin were not there because they felt like killing some ghouls, they were there to find some stealthboys they read about in an email. Their leader also reacts differently depending on how many of his followers you've killed and DON'T TOUCH ANTLER YOU PUNY HUMAN! P.S. I'm pretty sure there was a shipping error so they had to sent the stealthboys back to the shipping company meaning there were no stealthboys anywhere in the building.

[@NyQuilDonut]

Problems with Fallout 4: 1. Karma system restricted to companions only. 2. Almost all companions are good guys. This limits your options when it comes to karma. 3. No more speech options for certain skills (like strength). 4. Lady Killer and Black Widow perks no longer give you interesting speech options. Only increased speech success. 5. No wild wasteland perk. 6. No new interesting perks. All of the most interesting perks are from 3 and NV. 7. Companions can't die. At least in Skyrim they could die if you killed them. 8. Almost every mission is to go to some building and kill all of the ghouls or super mutants inside. 9. No new interesting monsters. 10. Tacked on settlement system. A cool idea but not worth having in this state. 11. Too many repeating quests. 0 would be ideal. 12. No more skills. Only perks. 13. No more repair skill. Minor complaint but still more dumbing down. 14. Lame ending to what I thought was a good enough story. 15. Your character is fully voiced. I like to read my character's dialogue in my own voice in my head. It feels like less of your character when he has a voice. 16. It's way too easy to find stimpacks and radaway. 17. It's way too easy to prepare food compared to NV, and purified water is insanely easy to get if you build a water purifier. I had safes full of cooked meat and purified water in my settlement that's how much of them you collect. Basically Bethesda just dumbed the game down a lot, and didn't add much to the series that was interesting.

[@libenhagos9335]

fo3 karma was ass anyways, a reputation system from fallout 1/2 is better.

[@NyQuilDonut]

Taco Power I like the Karma system. It's simple but it affects the game nonetheless. Fallout NV had karma and reputation. Fallout NV is mainly what I'm holding Fallout 4 up to.

[@NyQuilDonut]

+Rafal Nogowski Killing innocent people isn't the only way your karma goes down. It also goes down from stealing. I agree that karma could be expanded to affect more of your choices, but it's better than not existing at all. I wasn't even talking about F3 anyway. I'm referring to NV which is much better for freedom of choice. People who don't like the karma system just don't like having to deal with any consequences for their actions. The little things that made Fallout NV great are lost on shallow casual gamers, and that's the reason why Fallout 4 sucks. Bethesda dumbed the game down for the mouth breathing majority of their fans.

[@theblack0ne146]

NV finding stims were just as easy I had a ton. NV was mostly good guys as well.

[@NyQuilDonut]

My Name Isnt Nevermind I definitely didn't have a ton. It is not even close to as easy to find stimpacks as it is in 4. And no they're not. Most factions have a good and a bad side so you have a harder time deciding who to sympathize with. And you're not forced to be a good guy at all.

[@opk9611]

i feel like i'm playing bethesdas character - HIT THE NAIL ON THE FUCKING HEAD

[@linksnewave1922]

Alright someone else knows!

[@dankmemes648]

MLGdodge That's because it's a fucking role playing game

[@emperorpalpatine1469]

Dank Memes I'm gonna pretend you didn't just say that.

[@nickt5985]

Dank Memes You... you have never played any other fallout games have you?

[@dankmemes648]

Nick Tabourot I've played Fallout 4, 3, and New Vegas, just like everybody else

[@wizzlewazzle2412]

The only good memory I have of this game was a glitch when I shot a dude in the dick and he flew all the way to what seemed like sanctuary

[@bloodyblade916]

LMAO

[@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457]

Now, that's a feature, I would sacrifice my soul to devil for.

[@TheDwainfortune]

apex twin@@whatwhyy

[@thosko98]

What's funny is that Fallout New Vegas' combat can be fixed with mods.

[@libenhagos9335]

mods can't upgrade the engine, new Vegas will never be able to play like fallout 4

[@thosko98]

Taco Power no, but you can get better iron sights with a mod, and there's even a mod that allows you to sprint. No, it's not as good as fallout 4 still, but it's a darn sight better than vanilla NV.

[@libenhagos9335]

Fluffy Greyfoot yeah i mean, im replaying new vegas right now with those exact mods but the gameplay is still not nearly as fun as fallout 4's. Not that it matters, i don't play the game to shoot things

[@thosko98]

Taco Power exactly. The combat is much better than vanilla though. It's good enough to not piss me off every time I fight something. Otherwise I couldn't care less about the shooting in a fallout game.

[@davidr5445]

after modding new vegas it wouldn't work, at all. the only way i could play it was to get a pirated version. At least fallout 4 was made with mod compatibility in mind

[@EmmaTheShark]

You have no clue just how much I agree with you. It seems like everyone else thinks I'm crazy for HEAVILY disliking this game and considering it non-canon.

[@marv4167]

lol we are one in the same

[@GeteMachine]

Its story was too bad for me to consider it canon.

[@chasm671]

Fallout has canon?

[@jamespamson451]

How do you not consider it non-canon? You realize, you aren't the one who decides what is and is not canon.

[@marv4167]

James Pamson its a good thing he said "me" then huh?

[@MrPicklepod]

I tried to make myself a bartender that's great at negotiating with the enemy. That's really hard to do in a game that has you do nothing but shoot.

[@SerMattzio]

I don't think you even get one chance to talk enemies down actually. Even just traversing the world map means you have to kill 2,000,000 raiders.

[@BrowncoatGofAZ]

@@SerMattzio uh, how frequently in Fallout 3 and NV have you ever been able to talk down raiders?

[@Ganj420_]

@@BrowncoatGofAZobviously you haven’t played or beated nv.. there’s multiple hostile-like npc from various different factions which you can approach to trigger multiple choices which is also may lead to interesting side quest.. which is doesn’t exist in fo4.. i assume?

[@BrowncoatGofAZ]

@@Ganj420_ I Have beaten New Vegas. And you can never fully avoid conflict in New Vegas. Helping one faction can turn another faction against you. And they never gave you a chance to negotiate with the fiends except in Vault 3.

[@Ganj420_]

@@BrowncoatGofAZ wdym you can never fully avoid conflict? Thats a whole another shit.. we’ve been talking about being able to talk down raiders. And yeah the faction shit and fiend also out of context dude

[@memes4195]

I fear for the next elder scrolls

[@memes4195]

instead of shooty shooty it will be slicey slicey

[@memes4195]

Yep the same here I dont even want voiced protagonist. I think that is what let it to the downfall of bad dialouge options and choices. On the other hand I do hope obsidian games makes another Fallout and keeps it as New Vegas was I could get on that hype train.

[@memes4195]

Dan H fuck yes not only that but the whole back story is given to the new nim witted rpg players. Just so they don't strain their brain. I cant wait to build my pc so I can buy new vegas again.

[@memes4195]

New Vegas has some of my favorite expansions the old world blues was fucking amazing. "Go lobotomite!"

[@Excal123]

+E Rodriguez Fallout 3 had some horrible dlcs

[@kynaston1474]

This is the best review of Fallout 4 that I've seen. I felt cheated by Fallout 4. I feel like Bethesda got their fan base knew there would be people there to buy it on opening day and just said screw it. :/

[@kynaston1474]

***** That's not entirely true. New Vegas was a lot of fun. It was rich and complex. But you know Skyrim felt a little weak without mods too. I couldn't believe they stripped agility out of the game.

[@kynaston1474]

***** What in the hell are you even trying to say? Your syntax is all fucked up. I can barely understand you. As far as brown atmosphere, what did you think you were getting when you bought a game based in the fucking desert? As far as linearity in New Vegas is concerned you must have been playing an entirely different game because there is nothing linear about New Vegas. And what do you give a damn about vehicles anyway? You can run across the map of Fallout 4 in like 15 minutes...

[@ArtofLunatik]

+Adam Bodford lol you know what, im a fan of 3 and new vegas but after new vegas I learned my lesson with pre-ordering fallout games and buying em when they first come out, because theyres always broken when they come out. Although Fallout 4 is more than just broken.

[@flippy211]

+DieSunShadows *Cought* Thats cause NV was made by Obsidian Entertainment and not Bethesda!

[@kynaston1474]

flippy211 I keep hearing that, but it's still a Bethesda game and still leaves no excuse for 4 being stripped down from a game that old.

[@joshg.8706]

this game was cobbled together from todd howards shit

[@LoverOfManyArts]

XD

[@clownworldhereticmyron1018]

I know this comment is 3 years old, but do you by any chance remember the source/artist of your profile picture? Its very cool.

[@joshg.8706]

@@clownworldhereticmyron1018 inside-jax.tumblr.com/post/177149115228/owainigo-eyes/embed

[@propanbutan4634]

🤣🤣🤣 top comment

[@krylonking420s]

I hate the side quests. They are all the same fetch and retrieve, clear out settlement. I hate absolutely hate the 4 dialogue choices because what ever you pick the opposite decision will play out the same.also you don't have any decisions! It's all about shooting and killing. Plus it doesn't matter what skills you choice. Because there is no level cap so u can get every perk in the game.

[@krylonking420s]

Your playing the game Bethesda wants you to play!

[@VaultTec30000]

+krylonking420s They use the same system in Skyrim....There are no level cap in skyrim too... skyrim generates random quest too...or maybe you should go code your own game?

[@dianuevo8925]

+krylonking420s like every fallout game, and every other rpg.

[@krylonking420s]

+Kai Yang Fallout New Vegas was fine. Look at the steam comments for fallout 4. Skyrim had unique side quests. And you can't compare the 2 games at all. Skyrim had dialogue options for you to play the game the way you wanted to. So did all the other fallout games. But Fallout 4 is marketed for the casual gamer not for the fans. And do you know why???because money!!!

[@dianuevo8925]

+krylonking420s steam comments are biased, and hold no value, as they are just complains over their overexpectations not being met.

[@sebotrp]

What? What are you saying? No choices? In Fallout 4? Oh but you do have plenty of choices in Fallout 4! You can for example chose to kill Raiders instead of Super Mutants or Synths. Not only that you can actually chose which weapon will you murder them with too. Like you can chose to shoot your enemy with a gun... Or stab them with a knife...Or Throw Grenade at them...Or vaporize them with an energy weapon. See? Plenty of choices.

[@dicksmcgee2391]

SeboTrzyDe3D - you absolute fucking invalid, you don't choose which enemies you fight. You choose the order you shoot them in

[@mellochello921]

Dicks McGee 2 I think he was being sarcastic

[@Toasty_McGee]

Dicks McGee 2 he was joking asshead

[@acemoz]

Dicks McGee 2 You must be one of those elementary school kids that are scared of figures of speech... He was being sarcastic you fucking asshat

[@fabulousmetrocop6088]

I think Dicks was being sarcastic too... Y'know, he started off his comment by pretending he didn't get the joke, but then makes a joke at the end to show that he DID get the joke.

[@Will-kv6es]

It's true. It's pretty much just running around and shooting.

[@the_bottomfragger]

Will And it's not really good at that tbh. Most shooters have way better shooting mechanisms and most of all, the AI in FO4 is absolutely terrible. In many missions I had to actively search for the last enemy because he was hiding somewhere far away. That was a ridiculous and unnecessary chore.

BottomFragger What do you mean? I get shot to death by enemies that are so far away they don’t even register on VATS

[@zhikos_6441]

Nuh uh i stab and slice

[@badcompany9464]

what sucks about this game for me is I can't finish the game as soon as I start playing I just want to play something else

[@adrienlehman9243]

You gotta be a hoarder type

[@seabisquit]

right? it just feels hard to enjoy playing. its almost somehow painful its so unimmersive

[@ethanhill4904]

100% agreeable

[@ongogablogian2525]

Yeah, hype cannot change the fact the game is poorly made soulness boring money grab. You can't lie to yourself for too long. But this is a great borderlands game, not fallout by any means.

[@shitass296]

At this point I can only bare playing it if I put Spotify on in the background so I'm not fucking bored as hell.

[@eirikthenord3210]

I love when my character silently murders 30 bandits with headshots without being seen and fires rocketlaunchers at supermutants... Just to cry in the next cutscene... Thanks for the immersion Bethesda, I wish you never bought the fallout name.

[@callsignfatbeard2637]

I’m not even sure what this criticism is trying to say.

[@eirikthenord3210]

@@callsignfatbeard2637 rly? The point was the voice lines that Bethesda wrote didn't fit with my character and broke my immersion. Made it feel like it was Bethesda's character not mine. I preferred it when my dude was silent

[@callsignfatbeard2637]

@@eirikthenord3210 oh ok, I get you now. I agree with you 100%

[@blahblahgdp]

Sadly have to agree with the title. Loved the gameplay, but didn't like the "streamlined" system. The game world felt not as interesting as 3 or new vegas.

[@WarHammer654]

I think the problem and reason fallout 4 is getting hate is because people only look back at the interesting and top notch things of the past games while only paying attention to the bad things of the new games, because the adjetations and boring parts of the past game never really stick in your head. Fallout 4 is great and immersive, and the character building system is even better than before. You just have to actually play it and not wish it was a New Vegas re-skin.

[@MCPolloo]

+WarHammer654 Good point. Fallout 4 is a great game. People only look the bad things about the game and not the good things. And yes I also like 1, 2, 3, NV and 4. So I'm not a COD fan XD.

[@couriersix7326]

+WarHammer654 Fallout 4 is anything but immersive.The dialogue wheel, voiced protagonist, stats having not having any effect in conversation, lack of choice, and a shallow world are all very immersion breaking.

[@TonyHanny]

Exactly, the essence of the "post-apocalyptic experience" is lost with the lame "create your own settlement" what is this Tod Howard ? "the fallout sims 4" ? if i wanted to build and scrap shit i would have buy minecraft, the main story is ugly and boring, and dont even metion the dlc that is the worst dlc ever in a videogame, except for "far harbor" and even in far harbor they fuck it up by adding more of the same "synths-quest" , in other words, i will recall F4 as the game that "could have been" if Bethesda have had taken the best out of NV and F3 and combined to make it the best RPG ever ! Other stuff like "legendery enemys" droping "legendary garbage" and the lack of UNIQUE weapons like in previous fallouts makes F4 a terrible disappointment in my opinion

[@couriersix7326]

+Tony G. Reyes Just curious, what in your opinion do you think the ideal Fallout should be?

[@BigTiddy]

Fallout 3. What a disappointment to a fan of the first two. I was expecting New Vegas to be terrible as well. I was very wrong. God I LOVE new Vegas. Fallout 4 could never beat New Vegas.

[@couriersix7326]

Agreed

[@BigTiddy]

+Angel almanza what others call it "hipster island" but we call it "the cool table"

[@bigblue3982]

I loved 3 and nv

[@AntonioKH2]

New Vegas was the worst there were invisible walls in the mountains the crafting system to create ammo was confusing and areas were too high of level when you reached at the first part it was like it was meant to be played in normal difficulty

[@BigTiddy]

+HAASSSSS! all bethesda games have invisible walls. The ammunition crafting isn't hard either. Plus ammunition is everywhere so it's not a problem. And fallout 3's difficulty was dogshit as well.

[@ce6ej]

I don’t care how big the world is or how good the graphics are if the QUESTS ARE HOLLOW AND MY DECISIONS MAKE NO DIFFERENCE IN THE STORY. PLEASE just give the game back to Obsidian to make Fallout 5. Do us all a favor!!

[@innerdescent8210]

Yes please!!! Idc where it takes place just please let obsidian have the IP so Bethesda doesn't ruin this amazing series

[@eriknorman1690]

16x the detail

[@Adrian.Christ]

I think underwhelming is the best way to describe Fo4 for me. My favorite thing about 3 and NV was exploring an interesting world and meeting the interesting characters with their fun dialogue and side quests. Personally, this is what I enjoyed most about those two previous games. This game's characters and dialogue are so unbelievably bland to me. None of the side quests or characters are memorable. Not even a little.

[@WarHammer654]

Are you kidding me? Fallout 4 has such great characters, moral choices, and side quests. There is so many interesting characters with backstories, like Nick Valentine. And "no memorable side quests?" Are you kidding me? Ironsides taking the USS constitution any flying it over Boston did NOTHING for you? Many interesting side quests, like the Voyage of USS constitution, the big dig, cabot house, the hiest. Character building was fun, and in-depth, scrapping and keeping junk had uses and there was MORE weapons than the other games. There was new factions, with interesting stories and morals, and the BOS returned in a fucking AIRSHIP. I mean from a Fallout standpoint, the minutemen are one of the coolest and most interesting factions out of all the games. Just raiding the castle with them and rebuilding them was great. Then theres the institute, Railroad, and so on. This game wasnt suppose to be a New Vegas copy, it was suppose to be a new game. Give it a chance. Its really good.

[@Adrian.Christ]

I did give Fallout 4 a chance. I played it for about 40 hours or so and thought it was a pretty fun game, but ultimately felt underwhelmed. I did like Nick Valentine, but everything else you listed was only cool conceptually. The god awful writing and dialogue in this game really dragged everything down for me. I found it really hard to give a shit about any quest when almost every NPC encounter in FO4 was so bland. I'm not saying FO3 and NV had perfect writing or characters, but I do think both games were definitely a couple steps above Fallout 4 in that department. I expected the writing to be at least on par with NV, but it wasn't even close, so yeah, I was underwhelmed.

[@WarHammer654]

The character encounters were god aweful in the other games. I mean talking to miora brown is almost a cringefest. I think people just need to stop nitpicking at this game because its not their perfect NewVegas 2 and enjoy it for a Fallout game, and all the detailed fun quests and things in it to do. I think there is a syndrome, where if you look back at the games you really only remember the good stuff about the games. Go do a fun character build playthrough on fallout 4 with a new faction, then try to do it on an old fallout game. You'll fall way more into the fallout 4 playthrough.

[@WarHammer654]

Im not saying it was perfect, but it was a fun good installment in the fallout series. This guy in the video was talking about choice, and I began to think, theres more choice than any other fallout game. I mean they make your son the bad guy and you have to choose to support him and thats only 1 choice, but I feel that one choice was more choice than I had in any of the other fallout games.

[@Adrian.Christ]

WarHammer654 If you think Fallout 4 is great, that's cool, I'm not trying to convince anyone that they shouldn't like it. Personally, I thought the dialogue and most characters were pretty bad though. I don't think this is a nitpick either. Not enjoying the writing is a pretty big problem for me personally. Also, even if FO3 and NV weren't nearly as good as I remember, that still doesn't change the fact that I think Fallout 4 is incredibly bland.

[@Michael-tc5ec]

Everyone hyping the gun mod system, when it completely replaced a regular loot system, now every gun is the same, you can mod any gun to have the component, so looting is shit. I dont have to pick up any gun, because I can make any gun mod, with any build, because builds dont exist becaues you can just put points in whatever perk tree you want and get everything. This giant casual shooter is a joke

[@libenhagos9335]

no you can't, though there is a mod that allows you to, fallout 4 was ass but the gameplay was solid, you're bringing up a non-issue

[@MrQuickspring]

Well, it's true that you don't necessarily have to pick up enemy weapons, since whether it's a mutant, raider or whatever, they all carry around the same shitty rifles that you can make yourself with 3-4 points into gun nut. Even more so, you can detach weapon mods and store them, eliminating the need to loot materials and since there's no weapon condition decay, a single weapon is more than enough. Funny, how i finished this game and both the dlcs without buying a god damn thing from a merchant, yeah, wasteland survival my ass...

[@shutdown117]

I agree. People hated the weapon degrade system but it had a point to it, to give the guns you don't need or no longer want a purpose in the since of making you take time out to take care of your armor or to make your shots count because this gun might not make I through s fire fight because it was taken care of correctly. Also I rather have a huge gun selection the just a handful in fallout 4

[@NinjaGamer-oy1ol]

+Darth Doofenshmirtz he counted the pipe auto rifle and pipe rifle as the same. He manipulated the customization system instead of actually listing different weapons.

[@affrun11]

96% approval rating for Fallout New Vegas.. Something seems off. Hey, wait! The 4% is missing!

[@drakkenmensch]

Those are the 4% of the population who don't approve of a cowboy ghoul prostitute and a protectron fister sexbot.

[@basshead.]

The Witcher 3 rating is higher.

[@billyj3842]

Its 100 percent now lol

[@basshead.]

+billy j Did your mom not teach you lying is bad?

[@billyj3842]

@@basshead. didnt mean to shut you down so fast but google it

[@fusilli6507]

I liked the game, but NV was way better. I would really love another game taking place in Nevada, or California. I enjoy the soothing desert.

[@oscark.902]

I too enjoyed the game but it is just repetitive and gets boring after a few playthroughs.

[@fusilli6507]

Username Anonymus Agreed

[@bruhbruh428]

I loved new Vegas more than any other game I have played

[@nievesofficial]

I hated the "soothing desert".

[@fusilli6507]

TheNukaMan AKA TheRobloxian09 Alright, I respect your opinion.

[@TheDasErdinger]

Bethesda again fails to understand what makes Fallout Fallout. That it's more about the society, the people and not about you. Their dumbing down since Morrowind does not help either. Fallout 3 shares a lot of the same problems that Fallout 4 has. Few choices to make and an egocentric vision. They are fundamentally incapable of making a good Fallout game. I really hope that Obsidian gets a shot at Fallout again, or that they make their own series. They understand and respect the RPG elements and mechanics that such a game needs.

[@ludvig218]

+Accelerator 1 www.change.org/p/zenimax-media-inc-contract-obsidian-entertainment-for-future-fallout-games?tk=2xbKXiJPFSd569DjI5jamXFtfKeHIrCV9LBdCgxHrTo&

[@arongalaviz5806]

It's still good

[@DextersLab99]

+Accelerator 1 obsidian totaly beat bethesda at their game. they hands down made the best fallout. mods for fonv are the best too. and the setting. pretty much everything but the graphics

[@lordfarious]

What makes fallout, well fallout is Bethesda the developers make the game, could you make it? No

[@TheDasErdinger]

Hikaru Gaming Thank you for your intelligent comment.

[@ViolentSh4de]

I have played this shit for 200 hours because people kept telling me it's really great! Now I feel like such a jackass for wasting my time

[@ViolentSh4de]

Also saying if you don't finish the story you didnt play the game, that's bullshit because you can play Oblivion or FO3 and enjoy it massively without ever touching the main story (Probably for the better as Bethesda has always been bad at main story excluding Morrowind)

[@ViolentSh4de]

***** "Oh play this area thats where the game gets great" Yeah, nomination for goty seems like something thatd be good

[@CrazyDudeRecords]

i feel the same and i wasted 400 hours...

[@ViolentSh4de]

***** I personally hate the art style, it feels so cartoonish.

[@ViolentSh4de]

***** My problem is it just doesnt look like an apocalypse, it looks like crayons and its very distracting

[@rayortiz9350]

new vegas is good because it was develops by obsidian

[@rayortiz9350]

developed

[@jimsouch8632]

Ray Ortiz The one thing that I wish could be better in NV would be the graphics. Then again if Obsidian was given more time they would have been able to make a new engine but with all those time restrictions they managed to make an awesome game.

[@johnnygreenface]

Jim Souch and they are stuck with the oblivion engine still

[@zarlei6048]

I read somewhere that Obsidian was rushed to complete earlier, they wanted to make Legion territories more fleshed out, probably cut corners elsewhere as well. So sad tbf, would've made my beloved game even better.

[@EXoDuZ302]

bethesda screwed over obsidian and yet they made the best post 2 fallout in 1 year when bethesda had 7!!

[@lullylew9083]

Mediocre game in every way for me unfortunately. I got bored very very quickly and became irritated by the settlement system too. I'd much rather play a classic like Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines; Now THAT'S an Rpg.

[@DJWeapon8]

God fucking damn it. Gotta find that fucking disk and reinstall that fucking *amazing* game again.

[@silentspartan46]

Lully Lew I always get so happy when I see someone else praising that game. I just typically assume most people don't know of it.

[@jakubreszka6929]

great game hopefullly Paradox will do something with franchise

[@dawn2891]

Why is it always the classics that get it right? Seriously it’s rough gems like masquerade and new Vegas that we want to see rpgs built on. But for one reason or another they always fail.

[@dilbert7120]

I hope Obsidian makes a new Fallout spin off game with the same graphics as 4 and the return of skills, reputation, player choice, and all elements that were in previous Fallout games.

[@salazaranon5050]

Agreed. Anything with the gameplay of New Vegas would shine with just better graphics.

[@atlas5777]

Nope, just Fallout 76. Boy, I wonder how that'll be.

[@ohhimark6945]

Bethesda would never do that,NV made Bethesda look like they are incompetent because Fallout NV took only like 2 years to make while Bethesda got, I don’t actually know but it’s like around 7 year but probably more they got that long to make this game was incredible that was an FPS and just like 1 and 2 but they hire obsidian and they make in my opinion a WAY superior game in 2 years

[@theæthœr]

Kira Yoshikage Nope. We’re stuck with the bullshit that is Fallout 76

[@theæthœr]

My name a Jeff A Jeff Actually, Obsidian made New Vegas in 18 months.

[@tonyarevalo8175]

My issue with Fallout 4 is how I feel absolutely no connection with the world or its characters. I didn't feel as if I was talking through the carcass of a once mighty world like I did with Fallout 3. The characters were so bland and boring that, I just didn't care about them. And that extends towards my character the most. In Fallout 3, I was born, I was raised, and I was abandoned. And on a journey to find answers, I found myself. In Fallout 4, my character has little to no background. And because of that, I felt no obligation to finding my son. I was just so dissatisfied.

[@simonemtage2720]

Yes! That is the problem of fallout 4! In fallout 3, you really experienced abandonment and having to deal with that. Bethesda gave you a good backstory and a want to move forwards! In new vegas, you had relatively nothing, which was just as good, if not better, as it let you make your own character from the ground up, your only two facts being, that you are a courier, and that Benny must die. You also get to piece together your past through DLC content,(especially lonesome road) while looking to the future(old world blues). In fallout 4 they gave you a lousy backstory without any want to save your son. Dissapointment to the max

[@WarHammer654]

I felt the exact opposite. For me fallout 3's main story doesn't feel interesting at all, its just chase daddy down the whole game and fight for the brotherhood. Fallout 4 to me had an interesting story, meeting interesting characters like Nick Valentine and it drew me in making me want to find out what happens next, and find out who IS the institute. They had multiple factions with heavy sets on morals that made you chose, and INTERESTING factions that are cool and all have their own ending.

[@isaiah1065]

YEA

[@sebotrp]

That moment when you realize Fallout 3 feels more like a proper sequel than Fallout 4. I mean i seriously I believe that already mediocre Fallout 3 is much better Fallout experience than Fallout 4. And when you believe that a 2008 game feels more like a proper sequel than 2015 game, then there's seriously something wrong here. Also this how Come Fly with Me quest would look if it was a part of Fallout: Accept the quest ->Travel to REPCOMM test site -> Kill all the ghouls including Jason Bright. -> Go back to the one who gave you this quest -> Recieve your reward -> The end.

[@Withnail1969]

+Enclave Soldier and please build them some more water pumps and plant some mutfruit. that'll be interesting.

[@IGSA101]

The fallout games always had random events that never led to anything. But, there's a big difference between a guy fights himself and won't even talk to you after you save his life, and randomly coming across a super mutant named Uncle. Then, having a pleasant conversation with him, while (almost) every other super mutant in the game is your enemy.

[@Didact13]

Know what was neat about New Vegas? You could kill every quest giver except one, so that you could still beat the game. You could empty the goddamn Mojave. Having invincible NPCs is... Just terrible. The game shouldn't hold your hand and say "No, you need the XP, they get to live." .Fallout 4... Has no replay value. I feel no urge to ever start another character. The different endings are all the same, there's no slideshow, side quests don't impact the ending... And the DLC is lightyears behind New Vegas's. Together, the DLC add such depth to the main game, yet still seem ancillary enough to justify not being in the vanilla game. New Vegas will have a legacy, I hope. It deserves all the praise Fallout 2 got, honestly. Still has top notch writing, memorable characters, and the ability to roleplay such different characters.

[@brandonnoone3727]

Ya I did a kill everything run in new vegas were I killed everyone I came a crossed

[@eqrmn3934]

Lol I was played 70 hours all the while hoping maybe Ill find the real RPG elements soon but I finally gave up and uninstalled. This is an instance where the more I played I more I realised I hated the game because I was waiting for something but it never was there to begin with.

[@petermeier4809]

+Eqrm n thats exactly what i felt untill the end...wait bro, the good stuff will come...but in never came :-(

[@chickensbelike2790]

But maybe we were the ones not taking notice of rpg while in plain sight like for instance I'm able to play as a hunter happily

[@eqrmn3934]

ChickensBeLike What you are referring to are rpg freedom in terms of mechanics and customization

[@Cossu0l]

+ChickensBeLike You were playing make-pretend. You were not a hunter, you *pretended* to be one. Does your character have any hunting ability besides shooting animals, such as tracking? Do NPCs recognize you are a hunter? Can you bring it up at conversations? No.

[@kokichiouma297]

+Eqrm n yep just finished automatron got so bored im going back to modded skyrim fuck this peasant shit

[@Schroeder_-yh4sq]

fallout 4 is like KFC. it ain't what it used to be.

[@johnnygreenface]

Schroeder_2000 And the original creator was disappointed in it's current state

[@truepatrician4700]

You can say that again

[@lifelesshawk5725]

Schroeder_2000 Greasy and a little mushy at times.

[@albertosaurschannel6946]

Schroeder_2000 Now what do you think 🤔 of FallOut 76?

[@tombenson5840]

tbf KFC in England does bang on occasion

[@DerichndofCoomland]

All I can say after 50'ish hours is:So this is what FO3 would look like if designed by Ubisoft

[@Rags]

+Brian Gade Hmm.

[@1barnet1]

+Brian Gade Nah, A Ubisoft game would at least be nice to look at.

[@DerichndofCoomland]

1barnet1 LOL,thx just made my afternoon :-D

[@1barnet1]

Brian Gade Your welcome

[@joshuamohr4571]

It sucks that I have to agree with this video, I want to love Fallout 4 so bad, so very bad, but I just can't get into it like 3 or NV.

[@systemreviews7410]

I agree. I put so many hours into 3 and NV. With 4, I just hate it. The story, the characters, the horrible environment which cannot touch NV or 3's environment, the performance issues, the character development etc. It sucks. I got a refund.

[@playboyfan001]

same. I hate the fact that no matter how much time I spend on this game I simply cannot enjoy it. The game feels so bland compared to fallout 3/nv/skyrim (which are MUCH older than fo4) which is a fucking disgrace. Its depressing to think about it really.

[@johnville8296]

I prefer fallout 1 than this,it is sooo boring,i played like 30 hours and had nothing else interesting to do,it fades out super quickly,and why should you get a OP set of power armor at the first hour of the game?Are you kidding me?Fallout was all about the game putting you down to your limits,but it looks like in fallout 4 you are a god in the first 10 hours.

[@cornycarl]

lol 101 likes, as in vault 101

[@eriknorman1690]

Fallout 4 is just a watered down looter shooter with fallout’s world as a backdrop.

[@esswasim]

I played about 40 hrs but I found myself doing same things all the time until I got so mad that I deleted the game from my PC.

[@SaintMarneusCalgar]

Bs 40 hours and youv seen this game

[@esswasim]

+Dawn Of The Revolution (DTR) Not in the beginning of the game, when did I say that, can you see how many repetitive missions there are in fallout 4? Killing same raiders over and over again. And moreover I finished the game and found the ending to be so pathetic siding with each faction. Fallout 4 has nothing to do with RPG, there is no real character here, this is just a guy they chose for me to control. The perk system is worse than ever, The skills are history now, the great conversations are over. Just a piece of garbage shoot shoot shoot. What the hell, Call of Duty does a better job at that. Minuteman is so boring, everytime comes up with a mission for kidnappings and ghoul hunts, This is the fall of fallout.

[@idkidc1472]

+ess wasim m8 I completed it 90 percent and still finding new places

[@esswasim]

+Idk Idc and what you do at these new places? shoot ghouls?

[@alessandrozhang8455]

+Skill (DTR) I have over 400 hours now, and i can confirm that the game is repetetive as hell. Quests are all boring.

[@mathguy-s7g]

When i encountered Art there was dialogue. And they weren't shooting at each other, one Art had the other at gunpoint and I had to talk to them and choose which one I believed.

[@mathguy-s7g]

+Mr Sassy I also think that Obsidian was better at making Fallout games than Bethesda is.

[@Spacecookie-]

I just don't like that it looks like the nuclear war was just last week. It's all so ugly and yet they have organised into towns and still have robotic handy-men and everything. Why couldn't they have put any effort into cleaning/tidying the place up?

[@peasantlypeasant1986]

Fallout new Vegas should be called fallout 4 Fallout 4 should be called cod wasteland

[@archivehans]

"nothing like cod"

[@archivehans]

Rusty Rivet black and white morale "lets make it for the newbes that don't need to think" guns guns guns "lets add that custom gun thing from cod" most of the guns are boring and a few parts change them i.e the spiter (i forgot what its called) turns the laser rifle into a shotgun the story oh the story it is sooo bad they tried to do a new vegas 4 factions 2 endings all of them black and white leveling up lets make into borderlands (i love borderlands but the old school style fucking worked for over 10 years so why change it?) the world is big but so god damn boring there are some good parts like the fucking ship holy rotgut was that thing awesome to see and i love how you could get on the ship again but then nothing else you can't call in a strike or even help them bit more (5 years in the works) the nuke cola bottle makes me sad its just cod in the fallout world or a super dumped down fallout game sure it is a decent game but holy balls it sucks as a fallout game

[@archivehans]

Rusty Rivet YEHAEHAHAEHAEHAHAHAEHAHAEHAHAE OMG YOUR BASING MY "points" ON MY PROFILE PICTURE THAT IS FUCKING RULE 34 OF THE LEGO MOVIE BY ONE OF MY FAV ARTISTES WHY DID I WASTE 5 MINS ON YOU? YOU ARE THE TARGET FOR FALLOUT 4 YOU DON'T WANT TO THINK YOU ARE FUCKING SHEEP and the word opinion is used really badly here its facts and its the fucking truth you know what my opinion is if fallout 4 was never made you fucking moron

[@filthydaemonspawn1206]

+Rusty Rivet Yeah... I'm pretty sure you lost that and acted like an 11 year old...

[@archivehans]

Rusty Rivet its sad cuz you will never be rad

[@13ghettoDolphins101]

This is why Obsidian should make the next Fallout, hell Bethesda should just sell it to Obsidian. They only made 1 game, and it was better than Fallout 4 and 3 COMBINED. #BringObsidianBack

[@oscark.902]

#MakeFalloutGreatAgain

[@couriersix7326]

#MakeFalloutGreatAgain

[@leberonjamames9767]

fallout was never great to begin with. fallout new vegas and 3 and fo4 and every fallout shitout game is shit. PLAY CALL OF DUTY. YOU"RE WELCOME

[@NinjaGamer-oy1ol]

+Leberon Jamames your troll has sucked try again

[@redoryx1872]

Obsidian made fallout 1, 2, and tactics (if you care about tactics) not just NV. The reason NV was so great is the developers had experience making an rpg and new how to fix bethesda's fuckups.

[@calipachanguero]

Also there are like 4 factions and all of them suck balls. 1. Bigot Army (Brotherhood Steel) 2. Stereotypical Nazi Scientist Villains (The Institute) 3. Computer PETA (Railroad) 4. Fetch Quest Paul Revere (Minutemen) Why can't I be a Triggerman, Gunner, or Raider?

[@mayonnaise3959]

Why can’t I just be a serial killer of the apocalypse and murder everyone

[@innerdescent8210]

🤣🤣🤣 "Computer PETA"

[@komINgETSOme]

When I realized that I had power armor 30 mins into the game I immediately refunded it.

[@dalmationblack]

Hey, don't act like the FO3 karma system was that good. NV's was, because having it per faction made it more interesting. 3's was lame because it boiled every action into good and bad.

[@simonemtage2720]

Also I could never be evil because three dog was always judging me, and eventually I would break and then do nice things for three dogs sake

[@simonemtage2720]

Eesh yeah I remember those achievements

[@aala12]

I think you're confused. Karma and Faction Reputation are two entirely different things. Karma was 100% useless in New Vegas almost. In Fallout 3, it did a way bigger role compared to New Vegas but it was till meh.

[@cameronfleming488]

>let ghouls into tenpenny "you gained karma" >Kill the ghouls who murdered innocent people "You lost karma" Fallout 3 was fucking retarded.

[@siroakroots830]

Do you want to blow up an entire city for no reason (this is BAD because killing innocent people is BAD) or don't do that (this is GOOD because killing innocent people is BAD) My god Fallout 3's karma system was so fucked. It's quite odd that my least favorite Fallout games were made by the company that owns Fallout.

[@goldensoul1842]

Anyone else feel like a voiced protagonist was the biggest mistake of Fallout 4? That and the incredibly cliche'd backstory? And on a side note, I'm literally fearing for what they'll do to the next Elderscrolls.

[@poliwag9570]

There is a Zelda cartoon where Link talks, and I prefer his butt silent. I hear "EXUUUUUUUUSE me, princess." In my sleep, its really concerning.

[@qybapothos5721]

It's nice to find a video that actually has the balls to tell the truth about a truly shit game that is beloved by so many blind fan boys. I fucking love Fallout: New Vegas and yeah 3 was good too but I have my own problems with that one. I play this and the other two Fallouts on console. Mods have recently came out for console. Even with mods and the new survival mode which replaced the literally retarded one from before STILL doesn't make up for it. I have a play through of both New Vegas and 4 going at the same time currently. I love doing really hard games so I'm doing survival with mods that make it hard as hell and yet I default to playing New Vegas more often even though I've beaten that game about 30 times. I have to force myself to even play the game for a couple hours but it's just so fucking bad. There's a shit ton of more things to complain about after beating the game. For one, I can't for the life of me remember more than maybe 4 or 5 of the side quests in Fallout 4 and I enjoyed none of them. Choice in an rpg is essential and without the side quests and main quests are absolute shit. And wtf was that ending to the main quest? Destroy the Institute and then NOTHING changes?! All of those hours into that shitty game and nothing changes. I don't even remember if you get a reward or not. To my knowledge all you get is a shitty 30 second cutscene. And how in the actual fuck do you drop the ball on such a great idea Bethesda? Not saying the Institute was the most original idea for a story ever but it was pretty damn good. And then just to turn it into a string of shitty fetch quests etc.? There was one good quest about Kellogg's life and that's the only point in the game where I was like wow this could actually go somewhere but no of course not. In New Vegas the main quest was about getting revenge on the person who shot you and yet it had so many twists and choices that you could make that made it rewarding and interesting. You know what else is good in an rpg? Enemy variety. 95% of 4 was fighting feral ghouls, super mutants, mirelurks, raiders, and gunners. You might as well lump raiders and gunners in together because gunners are essentially raiders with better guns and a couple robots. But wait? Doesn't that mean you could lump in super mutants with them? Well you're exactly right. And it doesn't even make any fucking sense. There will be a raider camp in the city right next to a super mutant one and they don't even fight or are even aware of eachother. The other enemies hardly show up. In New Vegas, at the start of the game ALONE the direction you chose determined several different enemies you'd have to fight right off the bat. Cazadors, Deathclaws, bloatflies, coyotes, radscorpions, geckos, powder gangers, etc. At no point in New Vegas do I think to myself "Oh it's these mother fuckers again." DIFFICULTY is another thing. Like I said I'm playing survival WITH mods that make it harder and I still find New Vegas and 3 more difficult. Fallout 4 has the illusion of difficulty. But the perks and the lack of condition makes it so you can get a weapon that does a shit ton of damage like it's nothing. Not even the deathclaws pose a threat. The ones in New Vegas are ten times harder. They had speed, ARMOR, HEALTH, damage, and numbers. In 4 there are no locations that you could look forward to in later playthroughs and be like wow that would be fucking fun to do again because you never fight any of the "tough" enemies in groups. At most you'll fight two deathclaws at once. Not even in the glowing sea will you find difficulty outside of the radiation issues. Don't even get me started on the fucking cazador knockoffs (stingwings) lol. The only hard enemies are the mirelurk queens and behemoths but they're fucking nowhere and are also simple when you get O.P. weapons. In fact the stun ability on the super sledge is BROKEN. It can stun lock any enemy in the fucking game. I'm getting sick of talking about this shitty game so I'll talk about one last thing. Unique weapons. Fallout 4 doesn't have them. Well.. it does but they're nothing compared to the New Vegas or even 3's uniques. Get a fire weapons or a poison knife (woah.) Where's my fucking power fist that launches enemies 30 feet away? Or even basic unique weapons like oh Idk.. the Mysterious Stranger's gun? Even the fucking alien blaster is a joke lol. BUT WAIT HOLD THE GODDAMN PHONE. WE GOT RANDOMLY GENERATED LEGENDARY ITEMS THAT DROP FROM RANDOMLY GENERATED LEGENDARY ENEMIES. Most of them are fucking stupid like increasing the sweet spot on opening up locked containers and stuff. What happened to the one and only legendary enemies in new vegas that posed an actual challenge instead of being enemies that regen all their health and then do a bit more damage? If Obsidian makes another Fallout they have even less to work with than they did last time lol. I feel for them. Hopefully they can make up for Todd Howard's failed abortion.

[@WarHammer654]

Fallout 4 was a brilliant game... just because they made combat actually tolerable and everyone freaks out and thinks all the details are gone. Jesus CHARACTER BUILDING IS BETTER THAN EVER, there is a MUCH better story with morals driven into the faction you pick, and hard choices. They had a system where you could actually craft and use all the junk out of the wasteland, which opened MORE character building options. There was so many dang side quests I got to level 45 and still havent beat the main story on my character.... I think there is just people like you and this video creator who expected fallout 4 to be a fallout NV re-skin with shit combat and bad graphics or it "wasn't fallout." Fallout 4 was good, its just people overhyped it, and when they saw it was not the exact New Vegas reskin they wanted, they gave it no chance and gave no fucks to look into any of the details or great elements of the game. The game was brilliant.

[@qybapothos5721]

In the interest of not making a comment that would take 30 min to make I didn't bother with it's strengths because I feel they don't make up for the short comings. Combat shouldn't be tolerable because it's the wasteland. The whole universe is designed around the fact that the wasteland a brutal landscape and only the strongest can survive it. Making every enemy a joke was a mistake. New Vegas had morals in the factions. What are you on about? The Legion straight up proudly crucified people. New Vegas had plenty of hard choices and they mattered for the end cutscene, even side quest shit. In this video he touched upon how the crafting system being improved was good and I agree. But it doesn't make up for the other stupid design decisions. J never said there weren't a lot of side quests. I said for me, there weren't a lot of memorable ones and there certainly weren't any that'd I'd want to do again.

[@qybapothos5721]

As far as New Vegas' hard choices there weren't just choices that you made for quests but also what weapon you wanted to buy because you knew they costed too much to get all of them or even when you start the game what direction you'll go in. Why is that a hard choice? Well, if you want to take a risk of getting screwed by deathclaws or cazadors in order to get to the good items fast then that was your choice. In a good rpg it isn't just about dialogue choices. Everything should feel like an important decision an Obsidian delivered on that.

[@Gabriel-vx4fi]

QYB Apothos Cough *views* cough

[@qybapothos5721]

Lol I forgot I even made these comments. Well the game was shit when I made those comments, but then the DLCs came and made up for all the game's flaws. *insert kappa face here*

[@Nomul16]

Those two people, Art, that you came across fighting. there was a story to it, I have never seen them fight before you can talk. What is supposed to happen is both say they are the real one, they give you reasons, using charisma skills you can find out who is who, or just take a whiled guess. there was more to it, just it was glitched for you.

[@justsomeguy5440]

Or you could check their energy resistance

[@justsomeguy5440]

+The Fearless Gamer or how much damage you could do to them in vats

[@EnterTheFenix]

its not glitched. I had that same thing and so did a buddy of mine.

[@Nomul16]

+EnterTheFenix How are you going to tell me it is not glitched, when I have come across it working three or so times now.

[@directr4288]

saw art in 3 of my playthroughs, only once were they fighting, usually one of them has the other one under shot

[@oneveryfrustratedguy6702]

Fallout 4 Betrayed the Eerie setting, the feeling that the world is Dark. The new art style makes it feel like hardly any time has passed in the world at all. Not to mention everything Fallout 3 and New Vegas did so well. So much for being a post apocalyptic horror game.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

Didn't Fallout 3 do that with the Republic of Dave and the Nuka-Cola girl? And didn't Fallout 2 do that with the bleeping Month Python bridge keeper, the literal ghosts and talking cows and deathclaws?

[@Aetheriem]

​@@Edax_Royeauxit's only bad if Bethesda does it.

[@2WorldWar2]

I literally only play Fallout 4 for the settlement building. I probably spent 60% of my time in workshop mode. What else would I do, scavenge an empty wastland? Or would I do those super interesting quests, like clearing a barn full of gouls. Or how about helping another settlement in need? Another settlement needs your help. Another settlement needs your help. Another settlememt needs your help. ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP! ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP!!!!!!!!!! FUUUUUUUUCK.

[@jejo874]

Personally, I liked FO4. But I can see where Rags is coming from. There are a lot of cons, I preferred the old perk and S.P.E.C.I.A.L system, and I'm pretty sure everyone can agree they prefer the old dialogue system. However, they did add a lot of pros to the game, they improved the combat a lot, and the settlement system took over 20 hours of my life away (especially with mods). But Rags does raise a lot of good points, the story could've been better, I liked it, but it was a little bit bland, the graphics weren't improved that much, and lost a lot of RPG elements.

[@810wasaninsidejob9]

Bethesda can't write an original story to save their lives. FO3 = find dad. FO4 = find son. I wonder what family member we'll search for in FO5.

[@TheTopDogG]

Gunplay was amazing in FO4 to bad the shit dialogue and story ruined it.Fallout Nv with Fo4 Grpahic-best modern fallout.

[@johnnygreenface]

Irwin Fletcher it wasn't amazing. It was not awful.

[@gizmovangearz2995]

Right on

[@GeteMachine]

I still have issues with FO4 for more than what it took away, I'm disappointed in how simplistic they made everything now and how still its praised despite it having a very bland and straight forward overworld with nothing in it but combat. I still don't accept the Settlement system because it served no purpose to the game but just to get the minecraft fans in and the miniutemen just created to get you to do some repetitive, menial chores for you is generally how all the faction quests are. They tried to do what NV did, but didn't grasp what people liked from it and thought they didn't need Obsidian to recreate that. Nope. Instead we got more of Bethesda pretending they have depth where it doesn't exist. Either kill things or dont. Thats their idea of an RPG, especially one that roots in a tabletop simulator about post-war warfare. We get this. Building houses and fetching.

[@lukeboughner9873]

With Art vs Art you must’ve had a glitch because normally you come across the real one aiming his shotgun at the other execution style, and you DO talk to them both and question them and there’s a couple of dialogue checks, if your charisma is high enough you can make the one back down. Then it’s up to you to choose who you believe. They both accuse each other and if you’re with the institute you can get the truth out of the synth and choose to help him or not. You just had a glitch which in that case is the real problem. Not excusing the rest of the game but ironically that was one of the real good moments and choices in the game I think. As well some more cool random encounters but the problem is that they’re too random and difficult to come across. To me it’s like New Vegas and 3 and the others before that were like very well written movies as opposed to Fallout 4 which is more of an improvised skit or something, it could go anywhere good or bad but it’ll never have that real feeling of interesting fleshed out writing and characters.

[@GitmoOZ]

Agree with you. RPG elements are gone sadly

[@BowToTheAvatar]

Fallout 4 brought to you by NIKE - "Just do it"

[@Rags]

+BowToTheAvatar Excellent.

[@vunix1234567890]

LIKE this so Rags can see it: That whole fiasco with Art fighting himself was MEANT to have dialogue, in which you encounter the two in a standoff, neither firing. The real Art realises the Institute has had a replacement sent out and he's trying to kill the Synth replacement before it can get to his family, however the Synth Art is also saying the same thing about the real Art. The player has to try and decide which Art is real, or if they're with the Institute, they can find out who the fake Art is before shooting either of them. Unfortunately, I, like you, also never saw that dialogue and had to look it up - because the dialogue could bug out and not play, resulting in the two Arts just fighting as you showed in the video. Fucking Bethesda.

[@zemvic2403]

Thank god I'm not the only one that feels the new perk system was trash

[@rp2808]

Bethesda tried to make a Borderlands game with the a Fallout skin. Right down to how the weapons work with legendary variants and no condition on the weapons or armor. Absolutely pitiful what they did with Fallout 4. Not even close to feeling like a survival game even with survival mode on.

[@unfilthy]

I know, it's been 5 years, but I'm playing 4 now and I need to vent. I WANT THE OPTION TO TRY AND CHANGE NPC'S MINDS, dammit! (yes SPOILERS for all the things) Each "faction" is like a monolith with complete certainty in their rightness (except the Minutemen which seem to have zero values), with maybe a single dissenting voice that is either dismissed or suspected. In NV, I could even finagle concessions from the NCR & to some extent the Brotherhood, not to mention actually having a say in my companions' decisions and personal development. In FO4 I feel like I have no effect on anything. I can't convince "Father" to change anything. I can't even choose to leave the Institute if I missed the specific dialogue choice. I can actually go around killing every single synth I find on the surface and it won't make a difference, I have to go down and murder a NAMED scientist inside the Institute to get "banished." And not getting banished means going to war with either the Railroad or the Brotherhood or both. WTF. "Father" says I'm to succeed him. I say I don't want the job. He ignores me and everything keeps going like I didn't even refuse. In another example, I was getting sick of the obnoxious whiney brats in Nuka World, and I devised a plan. I was supposed to meet a bunch of raiders near a potential settlement and claim it with them, but the meeting place was surrounded by my existing settlements, so I made sure they all had these special rocket shooting things, and I snuck up on the Nuka-raiders and threw a smoke grenade at them, and they got blasted for like 5 minutes. I go over to collect the loot, and not only are they unharmed, but they're not even hostile. So I shoot them in the face. Then they get up and talk to me about the settlement we're gonna claim. I was seriously pissed off at this point, but I figure, fine, I'll do the quest bit, then I can kill them. Nope. They've got their raider settlement and I can't kill them or even turn them hostile. FFS, I can accidentally hit a friendly that's insisting on jumping an enemy just as I'm sniping said enemy and the whole faction turns on me, but I shoot these guys in the face and they don't even turn hostile, because they game decided the only way to go against the Nuka raiders is through a specific quest in a specific order and this wasn't it. I can't even remember the number of times I did something in NV only to figure out later that it was the "wrong" order or not the straightforward way to do it, but you can't do that in 4. Hell, you don't even get basic character development when it's part of the scripted game! Danse keeps saying shit like "we're representing the brotherhood" & "with the Brotherhood behind us we'll never fall" after he gets banished. Which circles right back to the whole no consequences/karma thing, b/c I can be "enemies with the Brotherhood" when I'm with Danse, then suddenly stop when I'm not. Just like I can kill Synths and Coursers without any consequences, because it's not the predestined way to get on the Institute's bad side, so it doesn't count. Also, what's with being given official membership and titles with every faction? As a free agent, it makes sense that I can run around doing stuff on my own the way I see fit, and if a faction happens to appreciate me, or want to use me, well, that's fine too if our interests align (see 3/NV). In 4 I'm supposed to be able to be both a paladin and a general and an agent and the heir apparent to the Institute and on the one hand, no one says "where they fuck were you and what were you doing" and on the other, I don't actually run anything, like I need to ask Preston for permission to do some Minutemen things, or he tells me what to do, I can't influence the Institute, Gage tells me what to do in Nuka World, etc. The only place where there's an actual moral dilemma is in Far Harbor, and even there, it's like, you can either expose Dima for the lying sanctimonious manipulative little shit that he is, and start a way where you have to murder or allow a bunch of innocents to be murdered, or you can keep his secrets and he keeps his place and you can have peace (or murder a bunch of innocents if you feel like it). You can't, however, get a personal or quiet reckoning with him, you can't get him to step down or self destruct or whatever. Contrast with the side quest in NV where you confront the elder Ranger guy and have to decide what to do about it. It's just a different level. Finally, there's all the pet peeves like every single companion repeatedly bitching about you collecting scrap, like they're not living in the same world with scarce resources, and you don't get to explain it an shut them up, just take it over and over again. Or god forbid you're trying to max out your carry capacity to go on a trading run and happen to go over and immediately correct it, only to get a damn concert of dismissed companions in the area bitching about you carrying too much stuff. Seriously, who is this for? Is it meant to be helpful in some way? Is it meant to be amusing? I genuinely don't get the purpose of this endless running dialogue the companions have ever if you're nowhere near them (or even if you are). It's just a handful of sentences, how many times must you hear them repeated, and why??

[@skrackensdal]

only second generation super mutants are dumb. the master's mutants were near perfect lifeforms

[@johnnygreenface]

Harri except they couldn't have kids

[@hamooozmugharbel]

Harri the masters mutants werent perfect. If you read vrees repirt you can see that they suffer a 30% reduction in intellgince which the master thought was caused by radiation. Admittedly though fallout 1 and 2 and new vegas had many intelligent mutants compared to FO4 and even many of those were scientists.

[@stormstory9765]

The mutants on the east coast aren't second generation mutants though. They are completely separate from the west coast mutants.

[@the_kekromancer9779]

Storm Story Well they could have just changed the design if they are so fucking sifferent.

[@stormstory9765]

General SkankHunt of Kekistan they did. East coast mutants were light green or yellow while the west coast mutants were a dark green.

[@BuddhaOwl]

It's just not an rpg anymore it's a fps / fast travel simulator/ hoarding simulator

[@pedrorslopes4983]

+Bogdan Vieru Nice list, I add Loading screen simulator too

[@RS4EVARR]

+Bogdan Vieru And I love it

[@moniumus6303]

Couldnt give less of a shit about RPG elements and story anymore ,I've played Fallout New Vegas for 1300+ hours,guess how many times i finished the campain ... 5 times .

[@moniumus6303]

***** for how many hours did you play FNV for example?

[@simonemtage2720]

+FalloutPro21 I have literally played that game for almost a month of in game time

[@camelpuncher95]

Fallout 3 being about choices...heh. Well, Fallout 4 makes Fallout 3's morality system look like a masterpiece, I'll give you that.

[@Pintkonan]

so true

[@tombenson5840]

You could make plenty more choices in Fallout 3, admitably they were evil choices but at least you had the opportunity to be a bastard, Fallout 4 had some choices but they were not frequent enough, off the top of my head I'm only aware of 3 evil options in vanilla fallout 4, two of those being endings that you pick

[@taxiholocaust5951]

@@tombenson5840 don t try talk to the autistic nv fanboy

[@Speednut1]

this video pretty much sums up every problem i have with the game. I really hope Obsidian gets to make a New Vegas 2.

[@radioactivebutter3966]

+Speednut1 New Vegas 2? Wouldn't that be a bit boring going to the same place again?

[@Speednut1]

+Radioactive Butter It was just an easier way to say an Obsidian sequal to New Vegas. I want it to take play somewhere else of course

[@BreakEm22]

+Speednut1 Fallout: Florida I WANT GATOR DEATHCLAWS DAMNIT

[@goodgriefer5294]

+Speednut1 The west coast fallout setting is really good compared to the east coast fallouts.

[@goodgriefer5294]

+Radioactive Butter Obsidian did a great job going back to the roots of the original fallouts and capturing that feel of the west coast and all the element's and ambiance of what made those original games great.

[@343RuinedHalo]

Modded Fallout New Vegas is STILL the Peak of the Fallout games.

[@innerdescent8210]

Definitely

[@evannolan9031]

You are supposed to be able to talk to that Art guy, by the time you got there they were already done talking.

[@ValenWarden]

I remember Art... told the Synth I worked for the institute and he asked me to take out the real one... Blew the synth's dirty head right off. It was one of the moments that made me 100% never want to help the Institute.

[@sirmoony5633]

Fallout "4" immediately shows that Bethesda never really understand the magic of Fallout in the first place! The only people who understood it are the people who originally created the IP! Y'know? Interplay Productions! The house that Brian Fargo originally built!

[@innerdescent8210]

This^^ So much this, I really hope Microsoft gives the IP to obsidian to head so at least we'll have a chance of another good fallout game, pretty sick of Todd Howard and Bethesda's bs

[@sirmoony5633]

@@innerdescent8210 Hmmm, if it's possible. Dunno! LOL

[@innerdescent8210]

@@sirmoony5633 honestly I hope it is, I mean Bethesda and obsidian are now under the same roof so at the very least they could collaborate, maybe they can teach Bethesda how to write a story while they're at it instead of them using the same tired story from the previous game (e.g. 3 and 4)

[@sirmoony5633]

@@innerdescent8210 Exactly! In my honest opinion, New Vegas is the true "Fallout 3", the ones that Bethesda made feel like crappy spinoffs than anything else! LOL

[@innerdescent8210]

@@sirmoony5633 yeah agreed man, I don't mind fallout 3 but you can tell there was real creativity put into NV

[@of7551]

Fallout 4 needs a menu where you can control the game. I want to eat, drink and sleep but I have to play survival for that.

[@restinpieces7]

I found art in a diff location with actual dialouge

[@tokiotou]

Bulletz4Br3kfst where

[@Supreme_Court.]

22:12 You investerbated, eh? Sounds... kinky.

[@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457]

Not as kinky as, rags other thoughts about juicy lemons.

[@blackarican4523]

Shame of it was the set up was right there, the theme of robotic clones living your life was such an interesting concept and they bugthesda it

[@masterofnothing4938]

Also the mods on new Vegas are wayyyyy better than 4

[@Ashoingbob]

I mean, New Vegas has been out for a while and that gave people more time to do things

[@6661313]

you'll note they didn't say there is way more, they said way better. the people that made quality mods are just not interested in moding 4 especially with the leveling system and voiced protagonist along with the way the speech options work

[@razorblazor571]

WRONG!

[@Ashoingbob]

Razor Blazor RIGHT!*

[@razorblazor571]

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[@daniellowe1086]

6:55 Must've thought he was playing Splinter Cell for a moment there.

[@marxxplaysgames]

this is why imma stick with New Vegas

[@alizard7617]

Hello I'm just a reptilian from the Nevada wastes going around the fallout community to ask what fucked up shit you would do for a fallout 4 style New Vegas made by Obsidian

[@stevenbrown7170]

marxxplaysgames playing it as i read this

[@8zzzzzd79]

I'm stuck in mojave wasteland too

[@bradenmerriman5206]

New vegas is top tier

[@coltonwhite2518]

Feel the exact same way to this day. Whenever I feel like playing a post apocalyptic rpg or fps I steer clear of FO4(and 76) and go for New Vegas or one of the Metro games.

[@seana3012]

oh my god I thought I was the only one who thought this about Fallout 4

[@sadrat8026]

Finally someone who shares my opinion!

[@jonathankozenko]

18 hours is very much enough time to tell if a game is good. I mean, imagine telling someone who played Resident Evil 4: "Dude, you're only 18 hours in, you can't say if it's good or not! You still have a good hour to go!" Now, having said that, I am playing Fallout 4 for the first time now (well, starting about 2 months ago) and I won't lie, I only genuinely started having fun around the 6-7 hour mark.

[@BungieStudios]

Thank you for this comprehensive synopsis. I always like to return to listen to it.

[@prismaticbeetle3194]

FO NV is still the BEST fallout title after FO 1 and 2

[@poliwag9570]

I prefer 3.

[@jokezspeedruns9679]

78% of people didn't play Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, 3 and NV :/

[@ethanschenck9714]

I played 3 and NV to death, and am currently going through the first three. I still love 4 the most.

[@venkatmadduri4401]

I played all the main Fallout games except for tactics, and I loved them all, including Fallout 4.

[@trevynlane8094]

I have played all of them except 76. FO3 introduced me to the series, never really got into NV (didn't have time to put into it before my Xbox crashed), Brotherhood of Steel was terrible (worse then any other in the series), FO1 and 2 were good, and tactics was ok. Fallout 4 is on par with tactics as far as I'm concerned.

[@nrlatty22]

20:30 Hearing u rant while twirling a trash can is cracking me up lol

[@hugostiglitz6530]

Best review ive ever seen- youve earnt yourself a subscriber!

[@TastyYumYums]

Jesus christ. You didn't even complete the game before drawing conclusions? 18 hours is nooooothing in an rpg. Good thing you don't have tons of subscribers or viewers.

[@Rags]

+TastyYumYums If you can't gather the quality of a game after 18 hours, your game has a problem.

[@TastyYumYums]

+Rags Wrong. The reviewer has a problem, and you will never be taken seriously until you finish the games you critique. Again - 18 hours in an RPG is (common knowledge again) not enough time to draw conclusions. This game is packed to the tits with content. You're picking out the most bizarre flaws. Probably cause you didn't finish the game.

[@Rags]

TastyYumYums I'm about 60 hours in now and none of my opinions about this game have changed. In some respects, I have new gripes. If you can't positively represent your game to somebody after 18 hours, your game has a problem.

[@TastyYumYums]

+Rags Hmmm not sure why you repeated yourself. That's a shame then. I'll just add my biggest gripe is the game not explaining things clearly. For instance in this video you say extra guns and clothing are completely useless and serve no purpose once you've found a better gun. Which isn't true. You can dismantle them or in some cases if you find a gun with one part that's better than yours - let's say a scope or a grip - you can swap that part off it and transfer it to your new gun, or store it for later. I myself took forever to find out that you can make supply lines between settlements. Also about the Art fight - the one kneeling is the synth. Anyway too bad you couldn't enjoy this game, but please for the love of god - put in the hours before drawing conclusions and then spreading bs like you did hear. If I had never played fallout 4 and saw this video I would think it was broken beyond belief, but it's not, and I realize this is just your opinion but you do indeed give out false information in this video. Which is just wrong, no matter how much you hate the game.

[@Rags]

TastyYumYums I repeated myself because some people need to hear something multiple times before it sinks in.

[@mattsmedley.onehandedgamin9029]

I came into fallout 4 just after putting well over 200 hours into New Vegas..... I'm left thinking that this is not what I wanted to play, not what I purchased a PS4 for. This isnt the fallout I wanted to play, this is just Wolfenstein New order yet set in a fallout universe. The graphics may be impressive, the game....no.

[@innerdescent8210]

I completely agree man, I really hope Microsoft let's obsidian head production on the next fallout game bc Bethesda is doing a shit job

[@mattsmedley.onehandedgamin9029]

@@innerdescent8210 I was so unimpressed with fallout 4 on the ps4, that I purchased fallout 3 (which I hadn't played before) and went back to the ps3. All was well in my world once again, I put approximately 300 hours into fallout 3 GOTY addition until with a save state of 19MB the game kept freezing constantly 😮. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are both brilliant open world action RPG s with superb dialogue and actual choices and consequences to your actions. I now have, once again a hole left in my gaming world as I wait for a proper fallout once again. Wishing you well 👍

[@Zineus]

Many people don't realize that basically Bethesda are trying to merge Fallout and Elder Scrolls fan bases to basically double to profits.

[@philiphandforth4390]

I cannot remember a single choice i made ...... Yup pretty much my sentiments, i hated how fecked the rpg elements of Fallout 4 were, the combat was fun....... At first but after a few level ups it became too easy and don't even get me started on the main quest, I could not give two squirts of piss about the main game. Coming off of new vegas and the choices and paths that were available and going to the restrictive as eff choices of fallout 4 was just depressing and i couldn't stand what they did to the perks and special system... Anyhow, late as could possibly be but that's the cliff notes for my 2 cents

[@smorre4004]

I got Fallout 4 on sale and I still feel cheated

[@eventhor7524]

"Fallout 4 Disappoints Me and Fails to Impress" yes, which is why i modded it into a hardcore tactical shooter.

[@TombGoose]

I love how if you look at the steam page now, all of the reviews on the first page are negative, but it is still "Mostly Positive"

[@ColdStarr]

I played Fallout 4 when it came out but never played it again after I did most I could in it. I just replayed it for the 1st time all the way through and I remember why this game never really made me want to play it again. However I've played Fallout 3 and NV multiple times through.

[@LilBlAcK76]

fallout 4 is not a bad game, its just a bad RPG game, its not a rpg at all, its a action adventure game, which is disappointing. i came into this thinking i would get a great RPG game, New Vegas but better, instead i got Farcry fallout. Bethesda is truly done with the rpg genre, just look at skyrim, compare it to oblivion and morrowind and you'll see how the rpg gameplay is being stripped away. im no longer buying any game from bethesda upon release, ive learned my lesson i cant even get into fallout 4, its just a pickup and play for an hour or 2, cant get immersed in the world...sad

[@biguglybucker]

+Bambo oblivion was pretty good man

[@mkzhero]

+Nino A Its not bad, yes, its mediocre at most and bad in the rest of its features. Not excelling in anything is something that also makes a game bad. I mean why would you buy a mediocre shooter with worse than mediocre rpg elements over a good rpg and/ or a good shooter? A game that gives no reason to buy it and has no way to spark your interest is by definition pretty bad.

[@Undead13thslayer]

Bye

[@Ntwister]

they may still see the error of their ways and change back to making awesome rpgs again

[@mkzhero]

Ntwister not if they keep sticking to that crap engine, that shit's ancient... I mean it looks dated, yet preforms badly too... I still have no fking clue how the flying fuck they managed to make the fps indoors lower than the fps outside in fallout 4...

[@wolfy1987]

They copy pasted interiors and buildings in Skyrim as well, and that was always my least favorite aspect of that game. Most of the smaller towns felt like they had no personality at all, and I ended up modding the game to make up for that

[@NeumaghAnon]

This is the first video from you I've seen, and you good sir have hit all my criticisms of Fallout 4 on the head. You've earned a subscriber.

[@TheIdiotTries]

Fallout 4 isn't fallout imo. I sunk into 3 and NV immediately. I've tried so many times to force myself to play this game and I can't, I hate it. The combat is a lot better but the dialog, the quests, the stupid settlements and having to babysit NPCs, the story is boring and not engaging. The gun designs suck, the power armor needing batteries sucks.

[@mateomilkweed]

22:15 "Investerbate" He said INVESTERBATE ON ACCIDENT. LMAO

[@noldocelu3326]

This is pretty much exactly how I feel. My favorite is F3, because although there's a long start where you kinda get dragged through a back-ground story, once you leave the vault there is no problem forgetting that and get on with your game. Also when you got out in F3 there was an entirely open world right in front of you, whereas in F4 you get out and it's like "okay, let's go back home". And I miss the karma thing, blowing up megaton or saving it from a rich man who likes fireworks, or learning to draw sustenance from blood packs. I never got tired of playing F3 because I felt I could do anything, and everything I did from creating a character to the choices I made mattered. In F4 nothing matters, Only a few choices related to factions matters, but at the same time kinda doesn't.

[@terminallumbago5582]

I could never play fallout 4 a second time. I’m getting my ps3 fixed tomorrow so I can play new Vegas again. Just give it to Obsidian. They get it.

[@innerdescent8210]

Hey man you should get a PC, most can run NV and FO3 and there's this mod called Tale of Two Wastelands that combines fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas, it's amazing. You can play the capital wasteland and the Mojave all on one character! It also adds iron sights to fallout 3 and let's it run on new Vegas's engine meaning less crashes

[@terminallumbago5582]

@@innerdescent8210 yeah, I’m thinking of getting a pc soon. That mod sounds really cool. The main reasons I don’t have a pc is because I haven’t much clue about what specs (but I can research that) I should get and I don’t have space in my house for one lol. My ps3 is getting fixed right now. It’s been broken for 7 years lol. So I actually haven’t played fallout 3 or new Vegas for at least 7 years. I tried playing new Vegas on my laptop but it couldn’t run it and I tried playing it on PlayStation now but my internet is not good enough.

[@innerdescent8210]

@@terminallumbago5582 oh you're thinking of playing it through streaming, well just be aware that streaming it on PS Now won't allow you to play the DLC sadly, I tried the same thing originally. Specs shouldn't have to be too high end, it's a fairly old game. If you do get one and decide to download the mod lmk and I can try to help you, there's tutorials here on KZbin it takes a bit to download but worth it imo

[@terminallumbago5582]

@@innerdescent8210 well no, I was trying to play it through streaming but my internet is not good enough. So I’m getting my ps3 fixed instead. Thanks.