Fallout Reaction Episode 1 | The End

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[@BeanCove]

Not sure if anyone has said this in previous comment sections but unfortunately the storyteller/narrator's voice actor Jason Damron from the storyteller fallout series passed away on September 7th :(

[@ShiningLight]

RIP king 😢

[@fruitsalad5036]

it's a real shame. Rip

[@battedbook5811]

Why does everyone i like keep dying. First Mitten squad now him.

[@dfwshade7525]

@@BeanCove There is a farewell video to the Storyteller up on the Shoddycast channel from some folks that worked with him, along with a compilation of his work.

[@acephas3]

@@battedbook5811Mitten Squad drank himself to death. Addiction can be a menace.

[@danielcavesripfuture9866]

Fun fact: Lucy's actor (Ella Purnell) voiced Jinx in Arcane.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Oh nice 😁

[@StormLord94]

By the way, a big reason for the violence being done that way is because thats pretty much how it looks like in-game while you play. People's heads explode a lot

[@jordanpeterson5140]

Especially if you take the Bloody Mess perk. Always take the Bloody Mess perk.

[@SirBroadcast]

@@jordanpeterson5140 That 5% increase in damage is a lot better than it sounds.

[@RipChordProductions]

*btw, one of the cowboys at around 29 ish minutes is actually the actor that played Bubba from Forrest Gump.*

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Cool fun fact 😀

[@MarcoAntonio-if1kd]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames The Lucy introduction is a callback to character creation in the Fallout games. You two will see a lot of the game characters perks from the games in the show characters, without "sounding" "gamey". There will be a lot of Easter eggs from the games in the show, which is great.

[@cpt.crunch9978]

24:07 Dude's acting right here is too good. It really stood out to me how his demeaor changed so fast. He's not new to the Brotherhood of Steel, he's scared but knows what's expected of him. A+ character building.

[@kcitsgt]

Idk if it’s been said, but season 1 took great inspiration from other shows that were the writer’s favorites, especially “the good, the bad, and the ugly”

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Can for sure see the inspiration. Didn’t have it confirmed until now so thanks for that 🙂

[@VerticalBlank]

Drink every time Lucy says "Okie-dokie" Lucy: first time player, trying to do the right thing. Maximus: second play-thru, testing the limits and what you can get away with. The Ghoul: veteran player, knows *exactly* what you can get away with.

[@spiraljumper74]

Press F to pay respects to that barrel of pickles. Seriously Hank, you couldn’t just bash Monty’s head in with a shovel? You had to go a ruin a whole three month’s harvest of pickles.

[@daysand123]

Sounds like he made a Monty Python gag of dark humor out of his death

[@crimsonknight7011]

It’s fine, the pickle juice overpowered the taste of blood

[@1x1boop28]

Nothing like pickle juce to make the open wound sing though! Besides! with so many casualties demand for food will be lower. Also pickle juice is very powerful that blood probably wont do much.

[@roberts.1050]

Quick note, when they saw the house at the beginning that was in 2077, not the 1960s, the fallout universe never developed microchips and their cultural style uses the Atomic Punk asthetic. They have advanced robots and nuclear powered cars etc....

[@Dahellraider]

Fyi the voice of fallout storytellers just passed away recently sadly. F in the chat guys.

[@ShabangShabanging]

RIP Jason Damron aka Storyteller

[@Ferdawoon]

13:38 - That's the Stimpak. It is the InGame item you use to restore health quickly (such as while you are in combat). InGame it can help you restore crippled limbs and fleshwounds. The fact that it works almost instantly the way it seems here is probably just a nod to the games. There are loads of "Game mechanics" in this show which maybe doens't make full sense if it happened in the real world but it works in the games and so they just adapted it to the show. Even the way Lucy raised her hand against the light of the sun as she exit the Vault is pretty much exactly the way the player character does it in the games. If there's ever something that might seem a bit too much it is probably because that's a nod to the games. The intense splatter and gore is very much part of the games for example so brace yourselves for future episodes! 14:12 - That's the Syringer gun. It's in the games. Instead of regular ammunition you fire syringes with different kinds of drugs. I'm guessing since this is supposed to be a very peaceful Vault that these Syringes hold some form of sleeping agent, but in the games you can instead make the target go fully berserk and hurt its friends and enemies alike, or you can fire a parasite so that bugs will grow inside the enemy and burst open like in the Aliens movies. There are plenty of different uses for the Syringe gun. 27:30 - You also see the Junk jet, which I think is from Fallout 4. It would fire random junk items you had in your inventory. This means you can end up firing bowlingballs, picture frames or teddy bears at your enemy! I'm not sure but I think it kept the damage consistent no matter what you ended up shooting at your enemy so you could kill massive Deathclaws with baby bottles or stuffed animals.

[@VerticalBlank]

Great notes! The Junk Jet is also in Fallout 3 but it is called the Rock-It Launcher there.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for the timestamps and the info on this world as we watch it 🙂😀

[@willcline5918]

So the opening scene takes place in 2077. The Fallout universe is an alternative timeline to our own, one in which the USA kind of got stuck in 1950s culture

[@TheEclipse420]

They've watched the entire Storyteller series before starting this show, they know about a good amount of Fallout lore. RIP Jason Damron "The Storyteller"

[@willcline5918]

@@TheEclipse420 I'm aware. I watched their reactions to the entire series. Ken said "back then" when talking about the price of the house, so i was reminding them that it's an alternate future, not the past

[@bodhip]

Maximus was actually my favourite character by the end of the series, there is a lot more to his character then at first glance

[@Shaggit]

So many sleep on Maximus but that's by design. I love Motens acting. He conveys so much while saying so little!

[@Yamato723]

He would be my favorite but the ghoul is just so damn cool

[@charlie7mason]

@@Shaggit Exactly, he does subtle so well.

[@trumps_toupee]

@@Shaggit He's great at expressions. His scene at the table in episode 6 is still my favorite lol.

[@JataDaYokudan96]

I agree. I think Maximus has the potential to have the most interesting storyline moving forward.

[@JuanSolos]

I must have been gaslighting myself because i could have sworn you guys reacted it already lol

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@Drakefance5]

By the way, Razor Blades in shoes are a real thing that occurs, doesn't happen often, and when it does it's either competitor sabotage or a psycho wanting to cause damage for the sake of it. Either way, if you want a new fear unlocked, always look in a pair of new shoes before you put your foot in.

[@robertshields4160]

And if you're camping in the desert or other environments it's always a good idea to check your footwear before you put it on in the morning. Critters like snakes or scorpions can crawl inside while you sleep.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😨😱

[@Ghost_R4cc00n]

This is going to be one great series to watch with you both and witness the many of expressions you two might bring 😅 as this series going to make you flip or speechless, but so worth it at the latest. 😁 So I hope no one spoils the series and let you both have s great time within this fallout journey in the tv world. With that said, I can say that “The Ghoul” is a very awesome character in my book, his score of pitch of western mix horror is a nice touch and his voice is so well made. I hope to use it in my voice acting career moving forward. 😏

[@axelplate9080]

"You look like your mother". Whaaaaaaat ?

[@Tijuanabill]

Actually they lived with crazy inflation in the pre-war era of Fallout. The comic books you find in game were like fifty dollars on the cover.

[@hasicazulatv2078]

Jesus imagine the amount of homeless and poor people. 😱

[@Tijuanabill]

@@hasicazulatv2078 It doesn't really work that way. Inflation causes immediate suffering, but eventually everyone's wages adjust to the new value of the currency. This is set far in the future. The bombs drop in 2077, so they had a lot of time to get to that level of inflation.

[@rileytruax766]

to the one guys credit at the start when you have a bomb shelter its only supplied with enough food and water for the occupants of the house so letting in the guy would put his family at risk of starvation or dehydration. and the one guy didnt look like he was taking no for an answer lol

[@damonbryan7232]

R.I.P Fallout Storyteller. This show is got something for everyone. Whether you play or just watch it.

[@OmegaDenz96]

10:04 i think most of the reactors of this show missed this one. they first thing they thought when Lucy finally got outside the vault is the radiation she can get from being exposed outside when based on their calculations, it's dropping fast enough that Lucy's kids can go outside without worries. and we know afterwards that the radiation level may not as severe as what most of them think of (I'm not sure if nuclear bombs in the 50-60s has the same radiation level of nuclear bombs we have today or radiation emitted are equal across all types of nuclear bombs).

[@ireallygotnothing]

@@OmegaDenz96 the radioactive fallout from nukes comes from the irradiated ash and dust from the blast falling back down to the ground, into the water, or suspended in the air. The more powerful the explosion from the nuke, the farther up the atmosphere that dust goes, which means more time for it to disperse and lose radioactivity before falling back down. Modern nukes are like this, more upfront damage and less long term problems. The Fallout universe is set way into the future with the ability to build even better nukes than we have today, but those werent used. The nukes that dropped in Fallout were specifically designed to be weaker and with extra nonexplosive radioactive material, called salted nukes, to make sure nothing grows back. Its why you see a lot of nukes drop on one city. They're technically weaker

[@Milner62]

Good show, RIP Storyteller

[@do0ranfrump260]

You guys did good. This was kick back and fun.

[@crimsonknight7011]

Yyyyeeeessss, I swear you react to everything I love, Warhammer, Fallout, Avatar the Last Airbender, Helluva Boss, DBZ Abridged. Now you just need to check out the English DUB of Yu Yu Hakusho, it’s such an amazing anime that many used as inspiration for those to come later. The main character is a bad tempered street punk who is hilarious and bad ass.

[@crimsonknight7011]

I really do miss Kitten and Emperor Text to Speech

[@PSGameStation]

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes! I've been waiting for this series reaction since its debut!! I'm so happy to see you folks are finally getting into it. ^^ @edit. after watching. Ghouls entrance will never not be badass af. I just love that guitar at the end. Also, Lucy's actress is the voice behind Jinx from Arcane. Maximus story picks up towards the end of this season and has a lot of promise for season 2. Can't wait for other episodes from you guys.

[@RipChordProductions]

*For anyone unaware: "Pinko" is another word for Communist, since Fallout is sort of based on 50s culture, minus the racism, Jim Crow laws, anti-LGBT+ related stuff, and segregation. Tho i guess there's exceptions, such as if you're either of Chinese descent, support Communist ideals or if you're Canadian*

[@argotheslicer1654]

Thank you. Your explanation was perfect you get a salute from a fellow fallout fan

[@arsewynd]

Canadian?

[@wyeri]

@@arsewynd intro Canada, referred to as "Little America" or the "Big 51" by many Americans before the Great War, was a pre-War country in North America, annexed by the United States on June 3, 2072 for its vast natural resources.

[@WolfHreda]

​@@wyeri perfection.

[@craigfurness5278]

According to Fallout 1, a joint invasion of Alaska by Russia and China occurs. In response, the US "annexed" Canada... Needless to say, everything goes downhill rapidly from there.....

[@Archie-he2dr]

Loved the video guys and i hate to be the one to inform you but the fallout storyteller has passed away shoddycast made a video of all the storyteller stuff put together as a tribute just thought you guya would like to know sonce you loved the fallout storyteller series so much

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah we were sad to hear it 😢

[@chandlermorgan708]

9/10 great start! What a terrific premiere episode. Between this and The Last of Us, it looks like video games are a great source for series, with so much smart (and in this case, satirical) worldbuilding and visual style already done. The look of Fallout is both familiar and fresh. We've seen this retro-grunge routine before, such as in Apple's Silo. But they've amped it up for Fallout beyond all expectations. I can only compare this with Amazon's The Man in the High Castle for both creativity and sheer volume of gorgeous and fun details to look at. They waste no time in getting right to the series' premise, while also finding time to introduce side characters. I expected Walton Goggins' Ghoul to be intriguing but I'm also interested in Lucy's father, brother and cousin. They whipped up a whole family circus there in just a few scenes of one action-packed episode.

[@alicea3421]

Isn't Silo good though?

[@hungryrabbiddawg]

I thought Id left a comment here yesterday but it didnt show up so Im retyping! This was such a welcome surprise! I commented not too long ago on yalls Arcane S2 reaction and before that, the Hazbin Hotel, but this series was not something I expected yall to fit in before Arcane S2 dropped! I was perfect content to chill this next month waiting for those reactions, but imagine my surprise when I saw this in my notifs! Y'all are a favorite of mine to watch when it comes to game series and Im grabbing this Stimpak recipe asap before your next KZbin Fallout upload. Thanks again for watching this series.

[@3Kings_Industries]

Ken: " He using a Pale horse." Yes sir, yes he did. 😉

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😏

[@kinjiru731]

Fallout is such a great show, I really loved watching it, the production value was amazing, the storytelling was great.

[@tracesosebee5485]

The key to good Fallout, even in the games, is the ability to pivot from Dark Comedy to over the top blood violence and gore, then back to that dark comedy. That is the hallmark of the franchise and what gives it so much personality

[@zd_zma]

Glad you guys are watching this. Hope you guys enjoy it. Also I love the name of the drinks. Lol

[@johnmack20]

so happy you started watching this

[@takewhataway]

Yea, I agree with how you think this show has a lot of "twist" where they just dont do cliches of scenes. Its the weirdness and dark humor of Fallout and the writers of this show nailed it. Looking forward to your next reactions. I enjoyed it!

[@Mr_Tuna69]

Fun fact: The Cowboy/The Ghoul is played By Walton Goggins who plays Cecil in Invincible

[@jjkcharlie]

After all the fallout lore, youre watching the series. Way to go Now, to play the games.

[@derrattenjunge]

I like that Lucys Introduction is like Char Creation in every Fallout game. Setting Name, Look and Skills. Thats pretty funny i think. And: its what makes her S.P.E.C.I.A.L.

[@savevatko3325]

Yeeeees I have been waiting for this!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🥳🥳

[@Terracut017]

You guys should definitely play A way out I know you'd love it, it's a two player story based game that first starts two guys finding a way to escape prison, trust me you guys definitely will love it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yes on our list to play as it is couch co-op 🙂

[@XC11301991]

This show was surprisingly fun and enjoyable

[@BerishStarr]

The Junk Jet is one of my favorite weapons, love to kill Super Mutants with Teddy Bears.

[@Gooey_Mess]

33:05 I don't think there is much romance to find in a post-apocalyptic world but characters due find love naturally in a lot of Fallout titles. Fallout also isn't so much about what life could be like in a post-apocalyptic word but a criticism of the inevitability of war. How war is a part of our nature as humans.

[@alteredsoup2806]

Hope you guys enjoy the show. I really liked it and thought it was the second best video game based movie/show only behind arcane.

[@arsewynd]

Love that Lucys marriage application is her character tagged skills. (guns, science, unarmed) Norm is my favorite character by the end. The series is successful IMO because it uses game logic not realism, for example the stim-pac Lucy uses to heal herself, straight from the game but hardly realistic.

[@daysand123]

Fun fact. Lucy McClaine's Actor is also the voice actor for Jinx in Arcane. You can subtly hear that little rasp with how she speaks here thats a big part of the other characters voice in the latter half of their respective show.

[@aitchessanon4312]

Also, she’s British (English, specifically), so impressive delivery of a US accent too.

[@scotthadden9816]

Sees that this video is on the channel. "Okey dokey."

[@ProudPelican]

IM SEATED FOR THIS

[@William284-z9t]

It's that Fallout

[@alldattalk]

Damn, they judge Maximus guilty instantly smh lol

[@excalibur2772]

which is kinda weird tbh lol

[@filthycasual8187]

I've been waiting AGES for you guys to get to this! Loved your previous Fallout reactions, I could tell you're gonna enjoy this too. And if you remember the lore you learned from the Storyteller (RIP Jason Damron), it'll definitely come in handy when watching this show (though you don't need it). Also you'll learn some new lore too, since this show is canon to the video game series. For me, the main characters represent the three types of Fallout players. 1.) Lucy is the player who plays as your typical goodie-goodie Vault Dweller archetype that is most often how one of these games starts. 2.) Maximus is the typical Brotherhood of Steel player. 3.) The Ghoul is pretty much how every player sees themselves when they play New Vegas.

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

OH HECK YEAH....ITS FALLOUT BOIIIIIIIII.

[@geraltgrey-mane695]

This show has so many problems with its setups but its still fun watch if you shut your nerd lore mind down :D

[@ThatGuyyApollo]

Funny story…😅 A month exactly before the show came out I thought it released and so all day at work that’s all I was talking about was going home to binge the whole thing. Until I got home and still only saw trailers is when I realized…😵‍💫 So I had to wait a whole other month after blue balling myself on the show. But when it released I sure did binge it and loved every second of it! 🙏🏼☺️ So it’s nice to see you guys finally watching it and see you react to the show. 💙

[@mikedignum1868]

The Ghoul = Outlaw Josey Wales.

[@TheDarkknightrules92]

Never played the games but this is a badass show. Very accessible even for people who know nothing about this universe.

[@lordnub926]

15:58 was hilarious reactions 🤣

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤗

[@Vibro666]

Friday evening and a reaction to Fallout. Nice! Greetings from Europe.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Hello there! 😀

[@Vibro666]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames General Kenobi! 🙃

[@MrMeddyman]

35:40 Fallout's whole thing is that it's not supposed to be taken seriously or at least it doesn't take itself seriously, it's meant to be a little silly, eerie and somewhat jarring tonally. Which is why its set in a perpetual 1950s culture that has lasted for 120 years before the bombs fell (we never invented the super-good semi-conducters necessary to make computers powerful enough for a global internet in this universe because we went full into nuclear power, we also never globalized fully with the tension of the Cold War never going away, nations were more isolationist so a combination of these two alternate histories means social ideas spread more slowly and naturally then in our world). The breezy optimism of the age enduring even nuclear annihilation is the inspiration is what sets Fallout apart from other post-apocalyptic settings. That was my biggest concern with the series, that it would just use the fallout name but not make use of the unique tone as well. Happy to report that is not the case, this is authentic Fallout.

[@alicea3421]

It wasn't always. This is authentic Bethesda Fallout.

[@MrMeddyman]

@@alicea3421 I'm not of the mind that Interplay/Black Isles Fallout is the pristine thing people make it out to be anyways. I'm not defending Bethesda's lore decisions especially on the East Coast, but Fallout 1 was pretty grimdark and then Fallout 2 was basically a circus of memes and references and ridiculousness, so it's hard to say they had an overarching vision for what FAllout should be even at the time. Tim Caine has a KZbin channel and talks a lot about what he wanted it to be and how many changes he had to make due to pushback from his higher-ups. (They also published the Brotherhood of Steel game which we all forget is the most yikes thing this series ever produced) I think it took time for an overarching identity for the IP to solidified and looking at what we have in Van Buren's design docs I think the silly tone was something that would have gone on if the company didn't run out of money. At this point the IP has been out of Interplay's hands for I think twice as long? Yeah, '97-2004 compared to 2007-2024 and I like where it's landed as of now even though I didn't originally in 2008 when Bethesda took over and made the changes.

[@alicea3421]

​@@MrMeddyman I'm not celebrating the originals as perfect either. I could see how someone might like the new, but I don't think an argument can be made to quality. I grew up with Fallout 3, a game in which you're forced to play as Todd Howard in his chess club years. I don't harbor a ton of reverence for any of the games, but I've revisited all of them a number of times and the originals hold up so much better in writing and tone. Bethesda can make somewhat immersive worlds that are more than the sum of their parts. But the more attention you pay to the writing, the more that immersion falls apart. Even everyone's favorite Oblivion questline, the Dark Brotherhood is awful. All of their worlds are populated by idiots. Fallout 2, like you say, filled with references and memes, was still able to take itself seriously when necessary. This show may be even less capable of that than the bethesda games are. Silly tone, I can absolutely accept. Not meant to be taken seriously, is just unfair. It pretends it wants to be. It's just incapable. The awful writing makes that impossible. If there's a supposed continuity in tone, then why is there no continuity in lore? Even Fallout's core message is butchered in this show. You mention what Tim Cain might have wanted for the series. But Tim Caine's post on the meaning of Fallout was recently removed from the Fallout reddit. Nobody cares what it meant, it's just iconography now. It's just brotherhood spread across the USA and bobbleheads and caps and stims. It's been flanderized.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Authentic Fallout ☺️ dig it 😁😎🤘

[@trentthehehim3936]

Norm Is the most underrated secondary character in the show. By episode 8 you’re going to be rooting for Norm. Also, Tim Caine the creator of the Fallout series, said A. Fallout was never about “critiquing Capitalism” it was always about war. “War never changes, but it always changes us.” No one remembers that last part and B. The Chineese dropped the bombs because the US had the FEV.

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

Im loving this.

[@the-orenge-head]

Yes, i have been waiting for this If i may ask, when is part 2?

[@Xtariz]

Everytime I see Ella Purnell in the series... Me: LOOK it's the Alita girl

[@hasicazulatv2078]

Do i spy a little revanent figure in the background? 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[@hasicazulatv2078]

Amd appa?!?!??!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@fritzy525]

Y’all have no idea how fast I clicked on this

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😁

[@starfire6764]

Let’s go this dope surprise to me❤

[@dreg.9147]

Hell YES!! LET'S GO PLEASE MORE!!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

More coming! Every Saturday 🥳🥳

[@madmax6439]

I remember that the other group of the " Brotherhood of steel" in Appalachia. Their leader was deciding to creat a new Brotherhood of steel without the interference of the rest of the mayor leadership. The idea of their leader is to creat a new leadership that help the wasteland instead of creating war against all factions or even settlements. You can choose to help their leader or to kill him. The Brotherhood of steel faction is the best in all the fallout games, but is your choice if you want to help them or to be against them.

[@PaulGuy]

Fallout 3 has two different factions of BoS in the Capital Wasteland, as well. One is the original BoS, focused on hoarding technology. The other is like the ones you described, helping the locals. They don't get along.

[@aidanleffler4897]

you dont play much fallout if you believe theyre the best faction. in fallout 2 and new vegas theyre slowing collapsing because they refuse to adapt to to the world around them and would rather die in seclusion than accept change, fallout 1 and 4 make them a society of warmongering fascists, and fallout 3 introduces a second more progressive faction that shares the name but has almost nothing else in common with the true brotherhood

[@kingrickda25th98]

When will you react to the new multiversus trailers?

[@Cifer77]

Oh this is gonna be great

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤘🥳

[@annareifer2249]

Uhhh I was waiting for this! Im Sick, this will help

[@rowenatulley852]

Great reaction!

[@zengara11]

Incredible show. Just saw some of your gameplays, would love to see you guys play "A plague tale innocence", really an october game, and we are getting there now, so would be great timing 😁

[@ratzukezero5311]

So amazing series!!!

[@DoomyRei]

Awesome show

[@gianmarcogreco9129]

I like ur little dog!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks! His name is Bucky 🙂

[@The_Page_5_Chronicles]

Big fan. ❤ Ya Bethany.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤗

[@neilgriffiths6427]

Can't believe a gaming channel has never played the game...good reaction, though! :)

[@CalllmeRuby]

I hope you guys watch and react to the greek mythology tvshow ‘KOAS’🙏

[@wakkadakka9192]

It’s a little sad that it’s based on Bethesda’s casual shooters where world is full of joy and silly dumb, and not on original Fallout games where world was gloomy and full of dark humor. But considering that the series was made for teens and normies who don’t even know the originals, this is forgivable. The series turned out to be quite good👍

[@cynic1984]

If not for dog, why have in front of dog?

[@Scyth0r]

36:00 Interesting that you talk about the 'save the cat' moment. Episode 2 is both going to absolutely confirm it at the start, turn that on its head at the end and immediately fake you out about it.

[@andrewdemarco3512]

Dark humor is a huge part of the fallout universe

[@battedbook5811]

This series is great. Shame that there were some really toxic people when this released, that weren't able to read a timeline correcly and were really obnoxius about it.

[@alicea3421]

That's the least of this show's problems. That's like saying people's problem with the Acolyte was Ki-Adi-Mundi or a fire in space. It's also awfully written, gigaslop contrived nonsense throughout every episode. People like to say that Fallout doesn't hold hands, when that's the opposite of its problem. It constantly does and every explanation contradicts something to make previous events nonsense retroactively.

[@CuddleCakez]

@@alicea3421 Most of the criticisms I've heard make zero sense tbh, except for the tiny jets on the bulky armor and turret accuracy. xP

[@Theoneandonly1_02]

​​@@CuddleCakez There are plenty of lore breaking decisions made. One of them is the position vault 31, 32, and 33 are in. That being put near the coast of LA which is near the Cathedral. Where... You know... The master is gathering his mutant army, cracking open vaults taking every vault dweller in them and dipping them in FEV to make more super mutants. This completely ruins the canon lore of Fallout 1.

[@alicea3421]

​@@CuddleCakez Those are directly comparative to the "fire in space" criticism. I don't consider that type of criticism to be too worthwhile usually. It is fair, but it's incredibly surface level and can potentially be explained by in-universe means. Suspension of disbelief is required for many things. You couldn't have stimpacks etc. without it. My concern is always writing quality. Establishing stimpacks and then not using them apropos is one way for previously innocuous details of the world to become malignant. Even the turret's existence within the context that it's in introduces numerous more problems elsewhere. So much of this show ascribes its events to luck, because "it's like the video game", but their iteration of luck frequently bends character's wills or reduces them to nothing but plot device. It results in contrivance after contrivance, episode after episode. So often with this show, they attempt to explain things that don't need explaining. Fine, in such a case that the explanation actually makes sense and doesn't contradict anything. However, often directly contradicts any possible scenario the audience could have invented to justify what could have happened, making something reasonable into something unbelievably contrived. It's bizarre that such a common defense for this show is that it treats its audience as adults and doesn't spoon feed information. I'm not sure I've ever watched any form of media that made me feel the story was actively lying to me. In a lot of shows that turret wouldn't necessarily be a problem, but in a show as badly written as Fallout it's emblematic of the sheer laziness of so much of the writing. There are many decent ideas, no effort is ever made to make any of them work. The discussion Beth and Ken have at the end of this video, all great things that should have been praiseworthy of the show. None of it is explored, none of it is earned. Some, in later episodes is explicitly damaged. When every decision made by a character demands the answer be that they're stupid it's very hard to be invested.

[@CuddleCakez]

@@Theoneandonly1_02 That's easily explained, he didn't know about every vault in the area. He even had to be lead to Vault 13 in a specific ending.

[@WolfHreda]

23:45 Aspirant Dane actually goes by they/them pronouns. Go back and listen to the Elder's speech again and you'll notice he never uses "she" or "her." It's a very well done detail as it includes a canonically queer character in a speaking role that gets some actual screentime, but they're not pointing it out and going "See? See how inclusive we are? Isn't that great?! Please clap..." Which is part of what makes it good representation. Aspirant Dane isn't a token character to make the production feel progressive, they're an actual character whose gender identity happens to be nonbinary.

[@Gooey_Mess]

Who cares?

[@do0ranfrump260]

Too confusing.

[@alicea3421]

How fitting for that character to be a member of a group that regularly allows the beating of its lower ranking members, brands people and burns and massacres entire towns. Is he just a particularly nice elder? Is that kind of respect a tenant of the brotherhood? Would it respected outside of their group? Their (the brotherhood) entire role in the show is that they're dumb and mean. I don't have interest in criticizing it like the rest of the show deserves, but it did at least come across as weird in the context. As you thought it was noteworthy enough to mention, can I ask you some questions on it? How would you feel about a depiction that matches the rest of the show? For example, if Maximus was respectful of his friend, maybe the elder is too, but if another referred to Dane as her? Do you think it would up too much time or draw too much attention? Is it offensive to even have a character be disrespectful or unaware? I don't mean an entire scene where there's a back and forth, just someone referencing Dane. I think that could work to characterize the elder beyond the rest of how the brotherhood is depicted. As it stands, it seems like a law of the universe or the brotherhood. It feels at odds with the regular cruelty displayed inside and outside of the brotherhood.

[@Gooey_Mess]

@@alicea3421 The show called her "they" because she in real-life identified as They/Them and can't decide if she wants to be a man or stay a woman. It's not at all anything deep or meaningful like some people think it is. Though it is ridiculous to think that the most zealot faction in fallout would have someone who can't decide if she wants to be a man or woman and respect her choice to identify as such.

[@alicea3421]

​@@Gooey_Mess That is a concern I had, that it was only a real life insertion. There are ways to have made it fit the context, for example characterizing the elder as distinct from the brotherhood. But like you say, if that's the actress's real identity, they probably wouldn't want to have that be anything within the story. Yet they did already make it an aspect of the character. The problem then is that it potentially becomes more intrusive by not contesting it in that environment. If the character was part of another faction, there'd be nothing wrong with it. In a better show it could just be an unobtrusive inclusion or something better. I did want to like this show, they had some ok ideas. I just wish anything was handled with any level of competency. Somehow they made something that they wrote to be innocuous by omission damage the surrounding context.

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[@midnightcat6116]

I think the character who plays Dane is transgender and goes by they or he.

[@daysand123]

Fun fact. Lucy McClaine's Actor is also the voice actor for Jinx in Arcane. You can subtly hear that little rasp with how she speaks here thats a big part of the other characters voice in the latter half of their respective show.

[@karkajouautomaton4882]

And her makeup process is much longer than the ghoul's because she's covered in tattoos.