Fallout Season 1 Episode 8 Reaction | The Beginning

[@BenC460]

I love the juxtaposition of how Lucy couldn't understand how Copper could kill his friend Rodger early in the season but then has to kill her mom in this episode.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I wonder if the series will end with her having to do it again. Cuz it seems like finding his family is what's kept Coop going.

[@Koko-xz5qy]

The number that Hank types in “101097″, a clear reference to Fallout first release date of October 10, 1997

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯🙂

[@spiraljumper74]

Coop’s character level is so high he started picking the quality of life perks like Nightvision. 😂

[@savevatko3325]

One of the best season finales I have seen.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

They wrapped it up very well. It was very satisfying while also teeing up next season perfectly 🤩

[@pyrofan80]

💯

[@sway_hybird4984]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames New warthunder trailer called "Dancing on the edge" is super cool and would be intresting to see your reaction and thoughts on this new 2024 trailer of the game comapered to the old "Victory is ours" trailer as seen by you in your reaction video. I know many people would want a reaction to it but i know your busy so me and people dont mind waiting if you want to make a video on it. Love your videos and have a great day ❤️😼.

[@craignellist7277]

Although they may have planned to drop the bombs themselves it’s still very likely that someone else dropped them first given that Janey was with Coop and not Barb when they hit. She’d definitely want Janey to be somewhere safe when they dropped.

[@RazanaArcclaw]

Yeah this pretty much confirms that the nuke used on shady sands was the one they had made in order to "start the war" cause all it needs is one nuke. So the war actually started, which is why she was at the party with her family.

[@mattp6089]

Canonically it was China. There's nothing here that contradicts that. Because I agree there's no way Janey was outside when the bombs dropped if Vault-Tec's plan worked out as intended. Although information on who struck first that was available to vault dwellers and wasteland survivors would be sketchy at best and possibly falsified.

[@craignellist7277]

@ nah I bet it was France, they got tired of being seen as the country that always surrenders and decided to shake things up 😆

[@TheEclipse420]

Pretty much confirmed at this point that it was China who dropped the first bombs/ launched the first missiles that started the Great War

[@kevinmegannety1163]

@@mattp6089 Canonically its not answered.

[@ricardochavez2946]

The Mr House cameo, New Vegas shot and Moldaver in front of the NCR headquarters were my favorite scenes this episode

[@TheRavencommander]

I know you were told this, but considering coop talked about "the person at the wheel" and you watched tales from the wasteland, it is a well known fact that vegas was the HQ and stronghold of robert house, one of the most powerful men on the planet pre-war and one of the heads of the table we saw

[@crimsonknight7011]

I believe it’s a theory that when Lucy said her vault had a weevil famine, people had to isolate. The theory is that this was all staged to keep people isolated and so they didn’t notice that Hank and Betty left the vault to go track down Lucy’s mom.

[@alicea3421]

It's been 5 months so I don't recall entirely, but I'm not sure that's a theory so much as it is the writers explicitly telling you that's what happened. The only reason I could imagine someone would say it is a theory is because that entire section doesn't necessarily make sense, as with a lot of what the writers tell you being in direct disagreement with logical consistency throughout the series. Like the discovery of "Max's" armor as an example. Or the discovery of Dog Meat in the cooler by Coop.

[@elvisibra]

Yes, you are right. ("weevil" femine is what the other guy in 33 stared as why he lost to Hank) about Lucy "great plague" of 2277 when people had to isolate and PEOPLE starved. By Lucy age her flashback is 2277, thus people theorize that "plague" is fake, a cover up for when people started going out in 2277, and those who stayed out proclaimed "starved", including Rose. And that is what adds into likelyhood of Moldaver being a liar too (or don't know the truth). And ofc Max and his flashback, that by his age is set several yrs after Lucy's flashback, where problem is: how did he have time to hide from the nuke, that close to it? Did he know? Or people of Shady knew? Was it a nuke in the first place?....

[@Tantalus010]

Love the disconnect between how the key to cold fusion is the size of a pill, but nobody ever figured out how to make a transistor.

[@yedead1]

The did have the transistors since the mr handy series used them but vacuum tubes overall were more popular. When transistors were developed is a bit of a mystery as theres two references to them 2023 and 2067.

[@meewec2091]

@@yedead1 i think they were newer developments before the bombs dropped and we see in the real world people are very resistant to change(looking at you light bulbs)

[@kieranstander921]

The whole golden rule thing is fun because a lot of stuff with her and the ghoul are referential to the in game karma system

[@rwp0079]

I think part of the reason Rose was kept alive so long was to force Hank to see what he had done.

[@swanchamp5136]

That's what I thought too, I also wondered if Lucy's mum and her were in love as well, some of those flash back scenes seem to show them as more intimate than just knowing each other

[@loganwolfe7552]

@@rwp0079 I thought it was so she could 'see' them finally succeed. We did t Rose

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

But Hank was a monster so doubt it affected him and just imagine the pain that it put her through if even a little bit of her mind was still there 😢

[@meewec2091]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames my personal guess is she went feral recently which is what kicked off the attack on the vault. otherwise i can't see why she'd wait long enough for lucy and her brother to grow up.

[@spiraljumper74]

@@meewec2091That’s kinda what I figured too. It’s really the only thing that makes sense.

[@EmeraldKing6987]

What’s great about the ending of this season is that everyone got what they wanted but with extra things they didn’t want or they changed what they want. Lucy got her dad and learned about his origin. Cooper learned who was in charge and learned about his wife being bad, Max became a knight but can’t be with Lucy. And the ghoul didn’t really get anything this season but his past self did

[@daysand123]

I'm just gonna say quoting that line and shooting Hank was probably a really satisfying moment for the Ghoul.

[@SaltyLobster]

The sadness on Maximus' face at his final scene says it all - his dream finally comes true (becoming a knight) and he hates it.

[@crimsonknight7011]

Last episode “If my father knew I destroyed an entire civilization to rescue him, it would break his heart”……..yahhhh, about that. The theory is that Moledaver and Lucy’s mother might have fallen in love which is why she didn’t kill her all this time. It is still not known how Moledaver was still alive. Also 200 years ago she said cold fusion was the project she was working on before Vault Tec bought her company and took it away. The code that Hank put in for the cold fusion is the release date of the first fallout game. The skull at the end is a Deathclaw which are extremely deadly monsters. We see in the meeting with the executives of the companies that many of the horrifying vaults came from them. Mr. House who we seen in the meeting is later the owner/ruler of New Vegas in Fallout: New Vegas.

[@alicea3421]

Yet she allowed the woman she loved's daughter who she knew as a child, to be SA/almost murdered when that was easily entirely avoidable given the information and advantage she had when infiltrating the vault. Moldaver is an irredeemable cl0wm person, but framed in her final moments as a savior by the writers. None of her plans made any sense, yet she never met the failure she constantly deserved. She's one of the most nonsense characters in any piece of media.

[@derfritz4550]

@@alicea3421 Salty Sadness is Sad that the Evil Dad is not the good guy

[@derfritz4550]

@@alicea3421 and now you salty Child it makes sense she gives a fuck about Lucy here after all this years she was 100% beting on a Brainwashed child.... and she would have been right without all the Experiences Lucy made in the Wasteland.... i wouldnt bet on a miserable brat that was not around me for at last 20 years and only influenced by the abusing daddy and HE IS a abusive dad....as you can see once she realy disobeys him first time for realll once she wasnt on his point and acted like he wanted he went BASTARD

[@alicea3421]

​@@derfritz4550 What? I made no comment on Hank. I criticized Moldaver. How could you possibly have interpreted it that way? I did not praise Hank at all. They are both irredeemably reprehensible and awfully written. Hank is also perhaps equally as stupid. But he's never presented as intelligent, unlike Moldaver. Hank is rightfully framed as evil, nobody is saying Hank is good, some people believe Moldaver is in any way heroic. I don't understand how my comments regarding Moldaver have anything at all to do with Hank.

[@meewec2091]

i feel like the only logical reasoning is that rose went feral recently which triggered the attack on the vault. otherwise i can't see waiting long enough for lucy and her brother to grow up. i figure rose wanted to leave them be so her kids would be safe but when her mind went moldaver snapped.

[@SciPunk215]

As for Rose at the end, the obvious question is "Why did Moldaver keep her alive as a feral ghoul?" Maybe she just didn't have the fortitude to kill her. But I think it was part of the plan. How was Moldaver going to force Hank to reveal the code? Torture? Or maybe confront him with the results of his actions... show what he did to his wife, who he loved. Maybe guilt would force him to give up the information.

[@shigidesu]

6:26 Hahaha I loved the Gary reference!

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

Yeah that Vault was NUTS.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😜

[@kitharley6159]

Keeping Rose alive was Moldaver's way to maintain her resolve to do what was necessary to recover her research. The constant reminder of what Hank (and Betty) did to Rose kept her focused.

[@rowenatulley852]

This was about as perfect a first season as any TV series has ever had - great story, great writing, great casting, and great acting. Oh! And the use of music was a masterstroke . . .

[@robertshields4160]

A few things: --Notice the foreshadowing when Bud drives up in his little car? It's a tiny car with a glass dome and he ends up as a 'brain on a roomba' listening to the same music that was playing in his car. -- Maximus and Lucy may have played together as kids when they both lived in Shady Sands. No wonder they hit it off. -- I think Rose had one last wish just before she turned feral. She wanted to be kept around, even as a feral ghoul, until her daughter was found. Rose, as a ghoul seemed to become more active when Lucy was standing near her. Who knows?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Wish they would’ve let us know if that was her wish. Because it just seems cruel to keep her alive 😢

[@silverbladeTE]

"Gaaaary!" ;) At 7:22 the poster on the wall..."Vera Keyes" the tragic love interest of *Sinclair* which leads to the Sierra Madre DLC in New Vegas

[@joshuasilvius7854]

One of games you find a dog that looks like Dogmeat , in a cooler at a Redrocket just like the show - so that was an Easter egg to fans.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Ah okay. Thanks for explaining that 🙂

[@michaelnoergaard922]

I have been loving this journey with you both, its been so fun and i cant wait for season 2, love your reactions.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Glad you enjoyed it. We really liked the show and are excited for season 2

[@puckhockey4733]

I just noticed, after several re-watches, that Bud Askins' little car is a foreshadowing of his later form. Also to weigh in on who started the nuclear exchange, while it could be interpreted in a number of ways, I can't help but notice how the bombs in the first episode of this show detonated at ground level and with absolutely no early warning. From this I infer that they were planted beforehand.

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

The plot twist was worth it.

[@alicea3421]

What plot twist?

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

The one where what people say they did...and what they really did. ​@alicea3421

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

What some people say they did and what they really did.

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

And the bomb drop announcement. A lotta foreshadowing for that one.

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

And the ghoul Rose one.

[@crimsonknight7011]

Something subtle that the Brotherhood elder said was “With me as its head and the likes of you as its sword” He didn’t say “with you as its sword” but instead “the likes of” which may insinuate that he wants people like Maximus but doesn’t want Maximus himself and might be planning to kill him later.

[@christianforsstrom2222]

or Maximus AND others like him

[@gawainethefirst]

The Elder was correct in one regard, the Brotherhood has fallen far from where they once were.

[@crimsonknight7011]

@@gawainethefirst werent they kind in some games? Like in Fallout 4 they seemed more like a hostile military invaders than anything else.

[@white-noisemaker9554]

@@crimsonknight7011 They started in FO1 and 2 as heavily neutral with good and lawful tendencies. In FO3 they were undergoing a crisis of faith, but veered hard good. FO New Vegas went the opposite end of the spectrum with them going full on facist. In FO4 they swung back towards neutral, but with more focus on order. Their origin is shown in Fallout 76 as highly idealistic towards good, law, and justice, but showing cracks in their foundation because of different beliefs on how to best protect civilization. Like Thaddeus and Max said, they're a complicated organization.

[@Tijuanabill]

I think Moldaver was keeping Rose alive just so she could see the lights turn on, fulfilling their lifetime dream. All those years Rose had to suffer and wait, and then Lucy kills her 5 minutes before it happens. Fallout hates us.

[@vRED13vTTV]

in the flashback scene when Cooper meets Hank, the secretary is Betty, the overseer in Vault 33 squire Dane is they/them, and i believe played by a trans actor i really hope we get an answer to how Moldaver survived for 200+ years without becoming a ghoul that skull at the end, just before it shows New Vegas, was a deathclaw, which is one of the most iconic fallout monsters, which hints that we will likely see at least 1 next season cause yall did it, my top 3 characters would be Cooper (the ghoul), Thaddeus (the squire that turns into a ghoul) and Norm (Lucy's brother)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Nice. Thaddeus makes top 3. 😎🤘

[@krewl1252]

12:06 your faces say it all seeing the big wigs of big mountain west-tek repconn and mister flipping house all talk about how they can profit off the end of the world really makes you think huh good thing that never happen here right? because if fallout taught me anything its that war war never changes (ALSO WE GOING TO NEW VEGAS BABY YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAW)

[@theinspiredgamer1949]

The fact that all those vaults suggested by the corporations are actual vaults you can find in the games hits all the harder. Plus the fact that Vault-Tec nuked the world for profit... The sheer greed on display is utterly incomprehensible... Cannot wait for Season 2. New Vegas, baby!

[@eriksand9262]

It’s still not clear who dropped the bombs first. If it was Vault Tec then Barb probably would have known when it will happen. So she would want Janey to be with her, and not Cooper.

[@VanagloriaVT]

The Deathclaw skull and seeing New Vegas at the end definitely gave me the tingles, really excited for Season 2 whenever its happening

[@eriksand9262]

@VanagloriaVT I hope they get near quarry junction and see a bunch of dead bodies, then maybe a couple deathclaws roaming around off in the distance. Then go "nope, we'll take the 15."

[@VanagloriaVT]

@ That'd be the best joke of the season, I hope they'll do something like that

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

What a finale.

[@mattp6089]

Norm ftw. Unofficial fourth MC. I want to see a Nerd Rage from you next season Norm my lad.

[@kinjiru731]

Mr. House is gonna be really central to S2, looking forward to it.

[@eriksand9262]

New Vegas is in ruins. So probably not. There might be flashback scenes with Mr. house. But I doubt he is controlling New Vegas anymore.

[@BerishStarr]

If you haven't already, you should most definitely play through Fallout New Vegas before season 2! Big game, with a lot of choices. But if you at least got through the main campaign it would give you a lot. Even a recap on KZbin would do fine 😄✌ Thank you for another awesome reaction ❤🤙

[@gregpeacock5497]

It's not mentioned in the show, but in Fallout lore, there are personal suspension chambers available, so the theory is Moldaver used one to skip 200 years.

[@PSGameStation]

I really enjoyed this show and your reactions. Last week news, they're starting the shooting for season 2 this month! So hopefully we won't have to wait crazy long for it to air. Anyway, thanks again for the reactions Beth&Ken. Into Vox Machina s3 and Arcane s2 we go! ^^

[@daysand123]

On rewatch the line about "my dad would be devestated if he found out i destroyed an entire community" feels like a disgusting punch below the belt when you know what he did and would do again.

[@sonosoloio]

6:27 I hope in a future season they meet some of them

[@CollideFan1]

Total devastation for two characters, finding out the people they loved the most are mass murdering monsters. When we first meet Barb, I thought she was a lesser rank person in the Vault-tec line, but as time has gone by, I believe she was probably number two in the hierarchy. Before she gave her speech, someone paged her pip boy and that's when she looked up at the shadowy figure, probably the person in charge of Vault-tec. The actress did an excellent job on this series, especially with her body language. And now Lucy will be walking that dark path of betrayal and knowing the life you lived was a lie. The Ghoul has been down this path and hopefully he can steer her away from the much darker aspects of it as they travel together. I think Moldavar had a bit of selfish love with Rose, which would be another reason to keep her alive, even though Rose as the person she knew was dead

[@davidperkins6752]

"Gaarrryyy" .... dude, i fkn died!🤣🤣🤣

[@vlander1992able]

If I was in Lucy's brother's position I would just threaten the lives of all the pod people to make him let me go, since I imagine bud is the type that would do anything to not see his pet project fail. But it will be interesting to see what he ultimately does, next season.

[@arsewynd]

Pretty sure Norm is smart enough to out wit Bud.

[@Judymoe]

Did you watch all of the post-/mid-credit videos? Because they all fill in bits of the story, or - in the case of the last episode - hints at what's coming. As a Fallout fan since the first game, I love this series so much, and am already excited for the next season!

[@excalibur2772]

Moldaver did kill some of the vault but Hank literally nuked her home lol I'd say she's still mostly a hero

[@GrumpyOldGit-zk1kw]

This. A lot of reactors seem to want/expect morally black or white characters rather than more nuanced ones. I see this a lot with U.S. reactors watching UK stuff like Torchwood.

[@alicea3421]

Moldaver is entirely a villain. She's pursuing her pre-war dream that was stolen from her, at any cost, well past it providing any value to anyone. She cared about Rose and then allowed Rose's daughter and son to be SA/near murdered. Who rigged the electricity and lights? Why did they rig thousands of buildings when nobody populates that area? If they do, then why does the NCR have so few combatants? She led the remnants of LA's NCR to the grave to achieve her own ambition. The show frames her as a hero, but the writers are too incompetent to make her one. Tragic, maybe, but she never does anything heroic.

[@excalibur2772]

@@alicea3421 This selfish dream of hers your painting helps the foreseeable future with new ways to feed, protect, and house anyone. She defended it because it is better in the hands of the NCR than the Brotherhood for obvious reasons. Yes she cared about Rose but they weren't getting to Hank without a trap like that and it is literally just bad luck that Lucy was the one getting married in the trade. The show doesn't really frame her either way. We are both judging her off of the facts.

[@alicea3421]

@@excalibur2772 PT 2: A trap like what? We as the audience can tell something is amiss. The naivety of the vault inhabitants can partially defend it, but what about Hank and Betty? What about not recognizing a single person of a group they trade with every few years? What about the Overseer they'd have to know of? The overseers are shown in later episodes to have been in contact with one another. Are we to believe they assumed nothing wrong when they'd been dead in 32 for so long? Why were they even dead in 32? Because they learned the truth? What truth? That it's convenient to Moldaver's plan? What even was her plan had 32 not all ended each other? Given the defenses we've seen at enclave base, and given the fact that Lucy has access to power armor manuals and that Rose wouldn't know anything about 31, why would Moldaver assume her force is enough to tackle any potential defenses contained within 33? Or alternatively both 32 and 33 as she conveniently chose to enter 32 first. Assuming a mix of raiders and NCR alongside Moldaver, because even people that like the show refuse to agree on if they were NCR or raiders. Why could she not have a more trusted one to ensure the safety of Lucy? Perhaps one of the ones she leaves with? Was it not communicated via the consoles who was to marry? Why would she assume that Hank not only has access to the code, but just knows it? Knowing Hank is pre-war why would she not also tackle 31, that might house higher ranking Vault-Tec who would more likely have the code. Nothing Moldaver does should work.

[@alicea3421]

@@excalibur2772 PT 1: The writers make no effort to portray any other local people. The most civilization we see is F1lly. She only grants unlimited energy to the brotherhood. She hasn't created any form of sanctuary for anyone else to inhabit. We're merely shown a base of operations for the failed New California Republic, which they're incapable of defending. They were spread across and rebuilding multiple states across the country, in the show we're expected to believe they collapsed entirely after the nuke at Shady Sands?

[@3Kings_Industries]

War ... war Never changes.

[@Gantros]

Since Sarita Choudhury, who plays Moldaver, has said she will be back in Season Two, I theorize that Ms. Williams had her brain scanned by C.I.T. Like Nick Valentine did in Fallout 4. Later, the Institute implanted this copy into a Gen-3 synth, and being as intelligent and charismatic as she is, convinced some Institute scientists to leave with her, taking the knowledge and resources necessary to start a new synth manufacturing site somewhere in the Wasteland. I then believe she made copies of herself and sent them out with the goal of bettering the lives of the people of the Wasteland without the influence and predations of groups such as the Vault-Tec. These copies would take new names for themselves, such as Lee Moldaver, and over time develop their own personalities as they had their own unique experiences.

[@alicea3421]

"Moldaver" "intelligent and charismatic" xdd

[@alicea3421]

Maybe one of her synths was named Maximus.

[@eriksand9262]

@Gantros the institute is on the East Coast only, and more specifically, the northeast. There will be no institute acknowledgment on the West Coast. If Moldaver will be back in season 2, it will probably be in just flashback scenes.

[@arsewynd]

@@eriksand9262 I agree, not to mention the institute doesn't exist until well after the war occurs so how would they get Moldavers info. Also your FO4 character wipes them out around nine years before the series starts.

[@Gantros]

@@eriksand9262 gen-3 synths had become known to the general population in 2229. Assuming Moldaver had been living in Shady Sands for at least as long as Lucy had been alive, that leaves at least 50 years for Williams to be operating in the Wasteland. Furthermore, Nick Valentine had his brain scanned prior to the Great War, which subsequently was placed in the Gen-2 synth 100 years prior to FO4. As for the Institute’s destruction, I stated in my theory that the Williams synth convinced personnel to leave the Institute with her, taking with them the means to create more synths. Therefore, the destruction of the Institute in FO4 has no bearing on my theory.

[@CMCustom112]

How can Rose see the Cold Fusion work when she no longer had any eyes?

[@andrewdemarco3512]

she couldn't, she was dead at that point. Talking to a recently deseased person is a thing people do though, it makes them feel better

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[@justinbaxter441]

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[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

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[@MrMeddyman]

Demystifying Vault-Tec to this degree is kinda one of the reasons I don't like this ending so much. A lot of fan theories like it was a Chinese shadow corporation pulling the strings, the Vaults were an experiment for a generational starship so that humanity could leave Earth and that never panned out, other ideas like that. I actually am not against the show saying that the NCR fell, the Brotherhood going astray overtime and the West Coast eventually devolving into complete chaos once again, because Fallout fans being Fallout fans they missed the subtext of Fallout: New Vegas, "War never changes", the Bear and the Bull being echoes of empires that already fell once before, America and Rome. Insanity is doing the same thing again and expecting different results. New Vegas tells the player many times that none of the choices for the Mojave are sustainable long-term NCR, Legion or even House. I just don't like them coming out and revealing Vault-Tec's motives the way they did and chalking it up to accelerationism... feels like a product of modern times rather than something Fallout had in mind in the 90s to solve for the biggest mystery of the franchise that may have been intended to be open to interpretation. Vault-Tec triggering the nuclear war themselves is not a new theory by any means and had always been open to possibility even poked at in games, but meh. Otherwise I'm definitely a fan of the show since I went in with very few expectations seeing that Bethesda was producing it. Either happy to see we're going to New Vegas this time around and I want to see what they choose for the games' canonical ending and what has happened since (my guess is Robert House since they went through the trouble to show him)

[@alicea3421]

As terribly flawed as the writing in this show is, Vault-Tec's launching of the nukes first isn't confirmed solely from their discussion of it. It even seems less likely, given Barb's daughter's situation at the time they fall. With that said, the scene still causes damage to the Fallout ethos and to characters like Robert House. Their saying the NCR fell is not at all a problem, but there is no justification for it in the show. Hank nuking Shady Sands over something irrelevant and arbitrary isn't any sort of commentary on its failure. From a meta sense it appears a lazy way to prolong the generic status quo of the world as we saw with TFA. I don't think anyone would be against the fall of the NCR, as long as it makes any sort of sense in continuity.

[@bulletsandbracelets4140]

"War never changes" is still kind of the entire point. It wasn't accelerationism. At least not when the ghoul's wife talks about it. Their entire belief is that war is inevitable so long as people differ in opinions and in society, so to make a future with no war, they need to entirely rebuild society with a controlled selection of people. It's ghoulish but also entirely believable from a bunch of corporate billionaires who will have forever to wait and are guaranteed to survive. From what I hear about the games, this also fits pretty well with what the games represent. Other responder already said this, but yeah, them being willing to drop the bombs to guarantee an investment doesn't mean that they did! Could still have been someone else beating them to the punch. In fact, it's more likely someone else did it before they had to, because if they'd done it I doubt her daughter would have been somewhere with the dad at the time. No way she would have risked her like that.

[@alicea3421]

@@bulletsandbracelets4140 "corporate billionaires who will have forever to wait and are guaranteed to survive." I really wish this was the show I'd watched. The idea that it's simply inevitable and that they can ensure they and their desired way of life are safe at the time is far more believable than the "earning potential" the show presents.

[@bulletsandbracelets4140]

@@alicea3421 that's the show I watched, so I'm not sure why you are so convinced otherwise. I really enjoyed it as a result, so I guess I'm sorry you couldn't get that same enjoyment. Maybe season 2 will hit better for you. (That is, after all, the line Bud wouldn't shut up about, lol! That time is the ultimate weapon and all that. But we'll see where it goes)

[@alicea3421]

​@@bulletsandbracelets4140 Very frequently I'd attempt best faith interpretation and the writers would later tell me I'm wrong in favor of something incredibly unlikely or outright contradictory. I've seen many people talk about the show not spoonfeeding, but that's quite my problem with it throughout. Many times their definitive answer is worse than logical assumptions the audience could otherwise make. Could you elaborate on the following? "From what I hear about the games, this also fits pretty well with what the games represent." Regarding "War never Changes" Are you suggesting that they are merely responding to the idea and not representing it? The line seems at odds with the person stating it, making it appear far too meta in the context it's used. The show represents as capitalistic, but as Tim Caine has also said, that's not at all what the games represent. It seems overly reductive, and for what it is, not well explored or reasoned, Edgerunners and Arcane explore these topics infinitely better. They immediately become 2 dimensional evil characters that want to perform cruel experiments, and play God. They all jump at the chance to take part in that. It's sold to them on that basis, before even suggesting that they drop the bomb themselves. There is no emphasis on survival. Where is the resistance to dropping the bombs aside from Coop, who isn't there to make an argument? No real argument is made for either side, just a sale an appeal to power. I could see an argument in favor of it being an attempt at progression of the idea, but the show does little along those lines, instead being in favor of reversion to status quo.

[@theidajawho]

There were no pronoun problems in Fallout Universe, it is either a male or female, so her was right.

[@sway_hybird4984]

@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames New warthunder trailer called "Dancing on the edge" is super cool and would be intresting to see your reaction and thoughts on this new 2024 trailer of the game comapered to the old "Victory is ours" trailer as seen by you in your reaction video. I know many people would want a reaction to it but i know your busy so me and people dont mind waiting if you want to make a video on it. Love your videos and have a great day ❤️😼.