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@playersnakeАй бұрын
Perhaps the next theorem video could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Infernape theorem
@King_Of_Hearts97Ай бұрын
How'd you guys get away with showing emulated gameplay on a phone without getting Nintendo mad at you? I ask for my own curiosity and endeavors as a content creator trying to come back from my old channel getting destroyed from doing a SM64 playthrough with a Brian Griffin mod ;-;
@sdpc-godАй бұрын
yooo pocket gameplay?
@justinnzamora5366Ай бұрын
FSG: Electivire, it's time for me to dunk on you in another video of mine. Electivire: Yes, dear.
@JustButtonАй бұрын
my baby boi…😢
@SethJVАй бұрын
At least he does better than my boy Luxray...
@twilightwitch9127Ай бұрын
Electivire is FSG's punching bag
@crushingonАй бұрын
As an old DPP competitive player from the friend code Sharing days, I gotta say decades later it doesn't get old to dunk on Electivire
@sleazymeezyАй бұрын
I still love electivire. Despite all it's downfalls after a motor drive boost it's coverage and an expert belt *can* do some late game cleaning... with prediction.
@krosshair450Ай бұрын
Mega Garchomp should've been on this as an honorable mention because the only reason it's never been lower than OU is because its base form outclasses it in nearly every way lmao
@enderdestroyer-mr7nhАй бұрын
I say that only applies to gen 6 and gen 9 national dex ou. As mega garchomp was actually consider a pretty mon and sidegrade to reg garchomp in gen 7(mixed wallbreaker) and gen 8 national dex ou(hyper offence scale shot sweeper). And I think it didn’t get a mention because it was ranked ou by technicality, not actually ranked ou itself
@krosshair450Ай бұрын
the "OU by technicality" groups in Gen 4 and 5 are listed here so the last point is kinda moot
@ZelongDongАй бұрын
@@enderdestroyer-mr7nh why you wasting your mega slot for a sidegrade when you can just use it for straight upgrades
@enderdestroyer-mr7nhАй бұрын
@@ZelongDongBecause those straight upgrades do different things and have different strengths and weaknesses. And I’m talking about gen 7, not 6 where mega aren’t the main focus of a team composition , and the opportunity cost isn’t as detrimental.
@LordPhilipJFryАй бұрын
No one ever thought Mega Garchomp was actually good, though. From the very first day of XY, every single competitive player recognized that it was inferior to base Garchomp and was not a true OU threat. The Pokemon listed in this video were all considered to be actually viable in OU at some point.
@AhmedHussain-ju6xdАй бұрын
FSG: "Wanna se me dunk on electivire" *completely violates him* *one video later* "wanna see me do it again"
@josephbulkin9222Ай бұрын
He won't stop. A shame. Electivire is one of my favorite pokemon.
@benwallace5041Ай бұрын
Same but lets be real he fucking sucks @josephbulkin9222
@et34t34fdfАй бұрын
@@josephbulkin9222 wire sucks so much. Should have given a secondary fighting type, and some actual good physical electric moves. Such a lost opportunity.
@superspyro8940Ай бұрын
@@et34t34fdfat least they are fixed in Drayano’s rom hacks. Being elec fighting with close combat and I think stronger physical elec stab in volt tackle and is faster
@mylestomsik4720Ай бұрын
@@et34t34fdf they gave it supercell slam this gen, which is strong but still not 100% accurate
@StickmanHatenaАй бұрын
The existance of OU and UU implies the existance of a much more moderate, U category.
@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutionsАй бұрын
JU/Just Used, SU/Simply Used, AU/Average Used, or CU/Commonly Used?
@MechaOracleАй бұрын
They call that UUBL
@quetzalthegamerАй бұрын
QU. Quasire Use
@PinkaholicOfficialАй бұрын
@MechaOracle Nah, UUBL ends up being used the least in the grand scheme of things
@MechaOracleАй бұрын
@PinkaholicOfficial woosh
@Super_Top_Secret_AreaАй бұрын
Yes, that's just how it is. Gen 4 OU players just don't want to update their OU tier, that's why Electivire and Dusknoir are still stuck there to this day. They just decided the job was done and left it in this unfinished state. The viability rankings change so much each time that Gen 4 OU is becoming more and more unrecognizable as a tier (and pointless as an introduction to playing the actual metagame).
@andrew1435Ай бұрын
I mean, not only that but there have been major rule changes since the generation ended such as baton pass with stat buffs and arena trap being banned. You would think they would update the tier list at least once just to reflect how the ruleset shaped the meta.
@patricklynch4074Ай бұрын
Its the reason i dont play it despite loving gen 4 They just decided a half assed tiering system was fine and i dont want to play a tier like that
@honestshao6160Ай бұрын
Gen 4 OU unrecognizable (❌); now have Clefable (⭕). I just quitted this tier (and also Gen4UU) for how unfun to play against Clefable.
@elilopez6260Ай бұрын
Which I still don't understand, if flipping gen 1 can have consistent developments with rises and falls. Gen 4 can do better.
@wyatt4227Ай бұрын
Guess none of you understand how the tiering system works
@joekewl7539Ай бұрын
>Top 5 Worst OU Pokemon >Look inside >It's actually dozens compressed into each placement
@Illusion_ZetaАй бұрын
The worst OU is what you think will be the best RU in the next two generations
@CabbageMuncher13Ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better myself
@goGothitaLOLАй бұрын
Or NU
@Weaponator18Ай бұрын
Yeah when gen 10 introduces 20 new legendaries 😂😂
@dankestranch8738Ай бұрын
Now days Pokémon drop from OU to NU in a single gen
@thatman666Ай бұрын
Electrivire: Why have I evolved, just to suffer?
@honestshao6160Ай бұрын
The whole point is to give Electabuzz an Eviolite, so does Dusknoir.
@ogmechsftwАй бұрын
@@honestshao6160 except eviolite electabuzz is not a particularly good set like dusclops
@skeetermania3202Ай бұрын
@@ogmechsftw Currently it is going off in VGC.
@arafzaman760Ай бұрын
@@ogmechsftw follow me Electabuzz won 2 VGC regionals
@riccardocasu5576Ай бұрын
Now even more, since Electabuzz got back Follow Me (once a special move from the Purified Shadow Electabuzz of Pokémon XD) and in Regulation H of VGC is one of the best supporters.
@MazterP28Ай бұрын
Rhydon learns more special moves than some normal Pokémon.
@danielnidhiry5796Ай бұрын
gen 1 pokemon movepools are usually wild
@chosone2Ай бұрын
I remember teaching Rhydon ice punch in gen 2 and wondering why it barely scratched the opponent, before learning about types being fixed to either physical or special
@AgsmaJustAgsmaАй бұрын
Did I dream or was Surf Rhydon a legitimate strategy in Gen 1 OU?
@MazterP28Ай бұрын
@@AgsmaJustAgsma they had bubblebeam rhydon on rhydon to lower your opponents speed when they retreat and are incoming. But you could use Surf to attack golems and other rhydon. So you were not dreaming
@thefirespecialist9007Ай бұрын
I literally run Choice Specs Rhyperior to this day!
@paradocks184Ай бұрын
The fact that I knew Electivire was gonna be on the thumbnail makes me sad
@youdom5Ай бұрын
Now the inverse of this concept: What are the Best PU/NU Pokemon?
@sosamsАй бұрын
Probably Skuntank for PU, PUn not intended. Dark/Poison is such a great typing
@zaknork9282Ай бұрын
ninjask, quagsire, ditto
@anleocaiiiАй бұрын
Charizard was the best NU Pokemon for like 3 gens in a row starting in the DP/P era
@cinnabonzai6989Ай бұрын
Florges would 100% make the list, how it hasn’t been banned from PU yet is beyond me
@punkysnarksАй бұрын
@@sosams I love Skuntank so much.
@cartycartoons5594Ай бұрын
Regice's old idle animations from Pokemon colloseum look so bizarre, he's just doing the robot. 😂😂.
@DuskoolАй бұрын
I always thought it was interesting how they made Regice move more robotically than Registeel. i feel it also kinda compliments it's cry, which out of the 3 regis is the most robot like.
@mrboost4186Ай бұрын
It's a great example of the personality they used to put into the 3D animations. The animations from X/Y onwards are unacceptably bad in comparison.
@skeetermania3202Ай бұрын
As for DPP Umbreon, I might be wrong, but its OU status is likely a relic of a time Mean Look + Baton Pass was legal, and since that ban occurred after Gen 4 ended, the usage stats couldn’t be altered.
@ZwijgerАй бұрын
Yes that's the point of this video.
@AyuNicoАй бұрын
Let me guess, Donphan is on the list? I still remember people trying to make it work so hard in BW despite us having a plethora of spinners that were not weak to water.
@sonofhades57Ай бұрын
...Guilty of that early on. I just liked the idea of Donphan more than the execution.
@kyklous3657Ай бұрын
Not going to lie, I thought Donphan was the secret sauce. Literally everything you could want on a tank. Hazard setting, spinning, phazing, and great power and coverage all on a single pokemon. You can't deny how tempting it is.
@RandalfElVikingoАй бұрын
Donphan was good, I do not think it was a bad OU Pokémon until B2W2.
@mylestomsik4720Ай бұрын
how was metagross in gen 4 a "noob trap" it was one of the best late game offensive pokemon with its agility set
@mylestomsik4720Ай бұрын
how was metagross in gen 4 a "noob trap" it was one of the best late game offensive pokemon with its agility set but maybe there was a mistake in the script
@shiruotakuno28Ай бұрын
"try not to make fun of Electivire" challenge fucking impossible
@goGothitaLOLАй бұрын
Same with Dusknoir
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917Ай бұрын
It turns out that all it needed was a good physical electric move to be good. Shame it took so long to get that.
@mylestomsik4720Ай бұрын
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 it was too late when it got it. at that point the game got powercrept
@bdt2002gamingАй бұрын
ADV Cloyster deserves a mention here, too. Its Water/Ice typing feels like such a handicap here, and there’s almost no reason to use it as your Spikes setter over Skarmory. Even the less common Forretress has an easier time switching into physical attackers and/or pulling off a successful Rapid Spin, a move which itself Cloyster can learn but is outclassed in. If Cloyster was pure Water, that would help it a lot, but it would still face competition from at least Skarmory and Rapid Spin Starmie. In fact, we know the former to be true since pure Water Cloyster has been tried out in custom ADV mods before to noticeable success.
@the_blahhhАй бұрын
ADV Raikou/Regice are arguably better than ADV Cloy, even. Not a super popular opinion, but a valid one.
@fabulousauruspeks7010Ай бұрын
Cloyster has a niche as a spike setter on aggressive teams, since its faster than Forre and has access to Explosion unlike Skarmory, but you're right that its Ice-type doesn't help it. It just switches into different things compared to Forre, and although it does get access to Rapid Spin, I would say that its role is more to set up a spike and get out of the way via Explosion to enable a faster-paced game, rather than sticking around and supporting a slower-paced with with Spin. Probably somewhere around the border of OU/UUBL though.
@lokimanezeroАй бұрын
For the Golem segment, I would like to mention that Golem was a much better paralysis spreader than Rhydon was with Body Slam. Once it was discovered Body Slam cannot paralyze the Normal Types, then one of the other important niches Golem had over Rhydon disappeared overnight.
@tondrone9124Ай бұрын
Rhydon doesnt learn body slam???
@stealthy9156Ай бұрын
@@tondrone9124it does
@skeetermania3202Ай бұрын
Why? Could you explain?
@lokimanezeroАй бұрын
@@skeetermania3202 Basically normal type moves cannot put status on normal type Pokémon. Welcome to Gen 1 Jank.
@StarsoulklrАй бұрын
It pretty much boils down to prevent Fire types being burned from Fire move, Ice types from being frozen and electric types from being paralyzed from electric attacks they coded the game to not apply main status ailment from attacks that are the same type. So Normal types end up being immune to paralysis from Body Slam for gen one.
@FogPileАй бұрын
Oddly enough, Regice has seen a renaissance in ADV OU. On both offense and Boom Spam hyperoffense, it's not used as a tank, pivot, or or utility mon in the same way you'd imagine Swampert or Claydol. Instead, it's used as a momentum generator, and not just for Dugtrio. It has a simple objective: -Come in on a special attacker -Force them out with boltbeam coverage -TWave whatever switches in -If the switch-in would be immediately threatened by a setup sweeper *or* Dugtrio, blow up to guarantee the free turn or trap. The reason this works over Snorlax is due to the mons that Regice invites in - Metagross, Tyranitar, Blissey and Lax especially. Snorlax scares these mons away with Earthquake/Return, and is often answered by roars from Skarmory, Zapdos and Suicune. Snorlax's Self Destruct absolutely does more damage outright, but Regice can set up a much more dangerous scenario - a double KO is fine as a trade, but a weakened, paralyzed, roarless target forces your opponent into lose-lose situations. The strategy has a notable weakness to Gengar, defensive Rest sets, and ironically, other booms. That said, If your opponent doesn't have an option that immediately kills Regice, they're going to get boomed and either trapped or set-up on. This approach to Regice actually saw significant use in high-level play, both in ADV Revival 2 and the Jimvitational.
@paradocks184Ай бұрын
I think another video like this going over the best lifelong lower tier mons in OU or Ubers would be cool. Gastrodon comes to mind.
@sad-o-lantern7825Ай бұрын
Bro should make a 12+ hour long history of ALL competitive Pokemon. Chronological and everything, it's not one Pokemon at a time, it's one generation at a time and it covers every Pokemon ranked above untiered. It'd take probably at least a year to make but I'd watch it
@rohonrammya5477Ай бұрын
Rest in Peace BW Donphan; you woulda loved UU
@ThorozakАй бұрын
I’ll never understand why Golem LOST Rapid Spin. It just makes sense
@vivian-alexandrarivers897Ай бұрын
If you want to learn more about the story at the top of this list, look up 'The Rock Wars', it's GENUINELY fascinating to see how this evolved and changed during the years and what finally tipped the scales.
@OMalleyTheMaggotАй бұрын
Regice is seeing a lot of Gen 3 tournament usage right now. Its really good. I think in some tournies it saw more use than Blissey.
@funkymachineАй бұрын
That's definitely not true, but regice is doing well as people realize bolt answer is essentially required. Also with how twave is becoming more broken.
@OMalleyTheMaggotАй бұрын
@funkymachine I'm pretty sure it's just used as "blissey that explodes" because besides ice beam being stronger that's really all it has over bliss
@swagzagoon2596Ай бұрын
Imagine being the absolute worst pokemon in the most known tier that's gotta be like, HELL to live in.
@SteveScapesYTАй бұрын
I remember Vaporeon terrorizing mixed attacking teams I used to play. If you were counting on LO Infernape or Salamanca to wall break through, Vaporeon was literally the worst thing to see hit the field. In a world without Mixmence though, walls are just much more free to specialize, cover each other, and be more turned to the fewer threats of the modern meta. You don’t need Vappy in a post-Mence world.
@Gamesmarts194Ай бұрын
This video kinda reminds me of old FSG, where Gen 6 was barely out and analyses were basically “You’re OU+ or you suck”.
@EdmacZАй бұрын
That was before the Power Creep went off the rails and everyone had somewhat of a shot. Now. Just being not Untiered is competitive success.
@punkysnarksАй бұрын
Tbf, "OU or you suck" is basically how competitive feels nowadays.
@HowlingOneifyАй бұрын
Uh, no
@facade6927Ай бұрын
Damn I didn't realize Mega Gardevoir fell off in ORAS. I always knew it was 100% outclassed from the beginning in USUM but ORAS too? Rough
@alejandro_rodriguez_99Ай бұрын
Mega Metagross, Mega Lopunny and Excadrill. Mega Gardevoir is so fragile and Mega Metagross is the fourth most used Mega, that you don't want to use your mega in a Pokémon that dies to a priority move. Lopunny defeats Gardevoir with fake out and return and it is the most used Mega in gen 6 OU due to the fact that nothing can't resist her STABs. Excadrill is the most used Pokémon in the tier and if gardevoir focus blast misses Gardevoir dies. And Mega Alakazam outclassing its damage and taking the spot as better psychic mega amd second best OU Mega that outspeed and one shot Mega Lopunny doesn't help Gardevoir. Medicham is the third most used Mega and it is a 50/50 becuase they have the same speed and Medicham defeats Gardevoir with fake out + any coverage unresisted move but if Gardevoir wins the speed tie, bye Medicham
@B3FMandCProductionsАй бұрын
Golem may be the worst OU Pokemon of all time, but it was still a badass who helped 7 year old me defeat Red Version for the first time so the rocky boi has a special place in my heart
@the_bookworm8281Ай бұрын
Here is some other mons that could go on here: Gen 5 & 6 Dugtrio: Very self-explanatory; the mon was busted back when Arena Trap was allowed, but after its ban, the mon became completely useless. The Arena Trap ban happened long after Gen 5 & 6 were the current gens, so Dug is trapped in complete uselessness in OU. Gen 5 Venusuar: Also very self-explanatory; the mon was busted back when the combination of Drought + Chlorophyll was allowed, but became essentially useless after the ban, and this too happened after Gen 5 was the current gen. The only use case of Venu is to counter-team opposing Sun teams, but not only Sun teams are fairly rare, they are typically more stall oriented which Venu doesn't provide much value against. Gen 5 Toxicroak: Was a good mon for a long while as a means of being a Fighting type mon that functions very well under permanent Rain. However, it is a mon that functions purely off of Rain due to its poor stats outside of attack, and eventually the value the mon provides starting fazing out more and more as time goes on. Currently, it is a D ranked mon in the VR and an "OU by technicality" mon by usage. Gen 6 Raikou: The purest example of a once popular anti-meta threat; early XY had Thundurus-I and Talonflame usage be at 3000% and Raikou is an excellent check to both of those plus other mons like Mega Pinsir. However, times have not been kind to it, as both of those aforementioned mons, while still very strong, isn't as popular going into ORAS and beyond, and the tier became more dominated by mons that it doesn't fare very well against, most notably Excadrill becoming a top 2 mon in the tier alongside Clefable. It is not the worst thing you can put on a team, as a few players think it is a little better than what its C- rank in the VR says, but it definitely fells off hard and became a mediocre OU mon, earning its "OU by technicality" distinction.
@skeetermania3202Ай бұрын
Your onion, m8.
@anleocaiiiАй бұрын
Dugtrio is lucky that Arena Trap isn't banned from ADV
@the_bookworm8281Ай бұрын
Duggy is also lucky that it wasn't fully realized in Gen 4 OU until after the generation, so it can stay in UU after OU's Arena Trap ban.
@Plastoon.Ай бұрын
Gen 5 venusaur. After sun got gutted its now stuck in a tier in no longer fits in and has no reason to be in OU without sun.
@cesarflamenco9484Ай бұрын
I'm gonna assume Dusknoir is going to be pretty high here. Possibly the dirtiest done new evolution for any Pokemon.
@DrakonLamethАй бұрын
for #2 -- iirc, espeon's magic bounce in baton pass was a key part of *why* smogon banned BP, so it was party to its own reason to be removed out of OU.
@katzuma7641Ай бұрын
Why dusknoir doesn’t get recover is beyond me
@FirstLastname604Ай бұрын
What about the best ou pokemon across the entire series? The most reliable pick no matter what game you play?
@persuisixh4804Ай бұрын
Depending on the gen, ttar, ferrothorn, or garchomp.
@lulunishaАй бұрын
I think it's pretty easily Magearna
@bigsammichthoughtsАй бұрын
It’s TTar. It was a top ranked Pokemon for 7 generations in a row and despite being UU in Gen 9 right now it still has a real OU niche. He’s a unit.
@demi-femme4821Ай бұрын
Zapdos. It's been OU in every gen except V and it's always at least decent.
@danteghazizadeh1656Ай бұрын
15:08 you used the wrong “were” FSG 🤓
@yati426Ай бұрын
I was looking to see if someone already commented that
@BlackReshiramАй бұрын
wooooo golem finally won something! .... wait
@banan9377Ай бұрын
"Regice can't spam Explosion" tbf no one can 😂
@armorbearer9702Ай бұрын
I feel bad for Golem. I am glad he made a comeback in gen 2.
@Waldassassine01Ай бұрын
Why being one level lower sometimes matters The Groudon theorem There once was a play with groudon and trick room where you actually preferred it to be one level lower than the level cap (49 instead of 50) that ensures to avoid a speed tie if the same had the same level which was by the same iv investment much more common yet being one level lower isn‘t siginifant enough to be a actual threat against other effective attacks
@PokeTom-y4rАй бұрын
My picks for Gens 6-9 Gen 6: The bad Megas that are in the tier because their base forms are good (Garchomp, Latios, and Tyranitar). Gen 7: Gengar. It was OU for a long time because of pure cope. Gen 8: Seismitoad. Because of the dex cut, this garbage was somehow OU before the DLC. Gen 9: Serperior. Quite possibly the most overhyped Pokémon since Vire and Dusknoir; it went from being considered broken in OU to being an alright UU Pokémon.
@SPZ-gv2onАй бұрын
Tbf to toad, that was dracovish meta and water absorb meant instant viability.
@riccardocasu5576Ай бұрын
Seismitoad was used in pre-DLC because is one of the two things (the other is Gastrodon) that can switch into Dracovish without dying. Yes, you need an immunity to switch into Dracovish. With rain or a bit of chip damage the Choice Band can easily smash even Ferrothorn or Toxapex in two hits.
@PokeTom-y4rАй бұрын
Still, I'd say Seismitoad is the poster child for how the dex cut made complete jank viable, simply because of how limited the options were.
@TheShinyFeraligatrАй бұрын
@@PokeTom-y4r You can't complain about a Pokemon's position in a tier being wrong if you also admit that it's viable in that tier...
@PokeTom-y4rАй бұрын
@TheShinyFeraligatr it's not that it's wrong. It's just that it was only ever good because the PokéDex got Thanos snapped.
@rubiconprime1429Ай бұрын
You’d think regarding DPP and BW that the smogon teams would forcibly drop those pokemon to UU with an extra stipulation that they can’t be brought back up to OU. Maybe devote two years to reopening the balance forums regarding those pokemon. If they’re good in UU, they stay there, too strong, put them back in BL, not doing anything, let them drop to RU/NU. Treat is the same way the Advanced Scyther clause was treated.
@jack7250Ай бұрын
Poor Electivire. Created when there were no good physical electric moves to take advantage of and when finally getting them several generations later, it was basically outclassed on so many levels
@jamesvanhelsing6331Ай бұрын
I remember running an assault vest raikou. Nothing like a special tank that can outspeed most pokemon in BW.
@kierenbuckley370Ай бұрын
forgot how good Golem was in competitive GSC
@slavkeiАй бұрын
I love that despite never having played a signle game against another player, I have a surprising understanding of competitive on both the unofficial and official sides of the spectrum between FSG and Wolfe Glick's videos.
@lordinfernape4753Ай бұрын
u mean a game of singles? like u only play doubles?
@slavkeiАй бұрын
@@lordinfernape4753 I've never played any game against another player period. I learn about singles from FSG and VGC from Wolfe Glick.
@lordinfernape4753Ай бұрын
@slavkei Well, Im sorry to be the one telling you this, but no you dont understand anything. All that knowledge is just memory, if you have never played a single game in showdown, youll find that even after watching dozens of videos, that knowledge won't be cemented in your brain until you play Btw why dont you play? Its free
@slavkeiАй бұрын
@@lordinfernape4753 Not the best trolling attempt I've seen, but not a bad one, I give it a 2/5.
@lordinfernape4753Ай бұрын
@@slavkei aint no trollin, nothing is stopping you from playing
@mariotazАй бұрын
R.I.P Golem
@Rarest26Ай бұрын
Dear current gen players, stop spamming Meow on ladder, that thing fits into this video and gen 9 isn’t even over
@skeetermania3202Ай бұрын
@@Rarest26 Hey, authoritarian, we don’t have to listen to you.
@HowlingOneifyАй бұрын
Learn what authoritarian means before using it please
@SPZ-gv2onАй бұрын
SO REAL lmao, at least just give up the boots set. Boots is worse weav on hstack, scarf is the only real niche it has.
@waaaaaaahАй бұрын
@@SPZ-gv2onBand is decent too! I mean, it's not great, don't get me wrong, but it breaks most fat mons not named Moltres and it's super fast for the role. A Band Meow with Flower Trick/Knock Off/Sucker Punch/U-turn is pretty workable on some sorta offense I'd say
@HopeP0HАй бұрын
Seeing my boy jolteon twice in a row hurts
@Droughtfew23Ай бұрын
When I got my KZbin Gaming rewind it told me I was in the top 0.2% of your channels watchers, and that I watch your channel 25x more then the average person. I WONDER if I should get the Patreon.
@ariechriswell2669Ай бұрын
Gen I Vitreebel and Lapras are probably great picks for the next video on this topic
@magicannon6285Ай бұрын
Hoping for a return to the open mic video format, I loved those vids!
@TheDiscoGenreАй бұрын
15:35 Fisdunction in 2024 reference.
@FisdunctionАй бұрын
based
@TheDiscoGenreАй бұрын
@@Fisdunction Did not expect that to happen in 2024 either.
@MissinDaSylveonАй бұрын
Rip to any bad OU Pokemon in gens 4 and beyond. The playerbase just refuses to update tiers so you can’t go down to lower tiers where you could do something…
@Magic_IceАй бұрын
You are the worst OU Pokémon.
@atsuroboyАй бұрын
ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@MonkeyDude_64Ай бұрын
😔
@gamerdude491Ай бұрын
OUch
@sketchydude8431Ай бұрын
Take that back : (
@feifeifeifeifeАй бұрын
Read in Keanu Reeves' voice
@Zenithal1843Ай бұрын
21:10 it’s ok its great great great great great great great great grandfather revenged him
@elYIiLyАй бұрын
as much as i like regice these days i find it better to use it alongside zard and claydol as a tankier alternative to offensive gengar and not really anywhere else
@PyreDDAАй бұрын
It's funny. I don't understand any of these acronyms for competitive or what's good or bad, but I still enjoy the videos lol
@shacolin6546Ай бұрын
I had a fairly good time with Vaporeon on my weatherless gen 5 team. Particularly to pass wishes to multiscale Dragonite, helping to switch into him tank a hit with multiscale, then heal him back up to have multiscale again next turn to Dragon Dance with. Keeping status effects off with heal bell and overall keeping the rest of the squad healthy was neat too. Particularly Magnezone, as Ferrothorn was the most common switch into Vaporeon. Forretress, Vaporeon, Porygon2 and Skarmory made the core to slowly wear the enemy team down, Magnezone was used to trap steel types and Sub/Roost/DD/DClaw Dragonite to clean up, though I sometimes used Gengar to spin block and overall be a nuisance with sub+pain split. Max HP adamant choice band Scizor too because he was just good overall and yet another pokemon that benefited from Vaporeon wishes.
@AwakeningShadowsАй бұрын
Imagine being a legendary that's outclassed by an Eevee Evolution. That's Raikou for you.
@DCBiscuitАй бұрын
ELECTIVIRE IN THE THUMBNAIL! LET’S GOOOO!
@miqvPLАй бұрын
Golem was my ace in gen IV tournament play (before world championships were established in my region), with custap berry, sucker punch and explosion. Many people expected it to be a stealth rock mon but after I did some calculations it wasnt viable to use it as a rock setter, it was a bulky offensive set with hp and attack investment and it rolled over people, often being able to 1v1 a mon and then custap explode or something that went to revenge kill it. Also geodude was my first legit shiny mon (I had a shiny hariyama in a pirated ruby cartridge as my first shiny mon), I caught it in like 4-5turns and then it turned out it had selfdestruct in it's movelist so I might have lost my first shiny if I werent lucky. Despite loving Rhydon so much more- Golem will always have a special place in my heart.
@goGothitaLOLАй бұрын
Oh great, more Electivire and Dusknoir slander
@LuisSilva-yc5fzАй бұрын
incredible support from Quetzalcoatlus northropi, truly one of the patrons of all time
@BananaR777Ай бұрын
Well historicly blissey and chansey held the title of ou until GF and TPCI's poor practices for gutted her.
@Flamelance_AccendoАй бұрын
I feel like a Zapdos video remake is in order.
@MechaOracleАй бұрын
I would like to see the list be based off each generation.
@FarFromChonkIRLАй бұрын
The teiring mentioned in this video makes me feel less confused about Scar/Vi's tiers. For example: What do you mean Zapdos-G, Zoroark-H,Goodra-H, and Lilligant-H are all in RU while Donphan, Comfey, Lokix, and Slowking are in UU? (This is using the current tiers as of posting this comment)
@hanfighter9237Ай бұрын
20:30: to be honest; Magic Bounce Espeon was a scary Pokémon because of Will-O-Wisp, Toxic, Stealth Rock everywhere. And unlike Xatu: Espeon was terrifying. High speed, Ridiculous Special Attack, and respectable Special Defense. Oh yeah: and Psychic type on a timeline with fighting types everywhere.
@nombregenerico7775Ай бұрын
I think it's Charizard, and I really think that Charizard needs more buffs or forms from Gamefreak, as he has been out of the spotlight for too long.
@sonitsahay2743Ай бұрын
Mega Charizard Z
@thevioletbee5879Ай бұрын
@@sonitsahay2743Don’t forget Mega Charizard A.
@Mysticshosh42Ай бұрын
Gigantamax mega charizard XY
@RFDN0Ай бұрын
Charizard honestly only needs a grass move without needing the sun to be a single turn to have good use cases. General power creep is an issue but doubles can use sun weather better and heat wave spam. Megas patched this issue for Charizard.
@AyuNicoАй бұрын
Charizard was only OU for the generations that Charizard X was a thing.
@danteghazizadeh1656Ай бұрын
Crazy how the Gen 1 rivalry ended up with Rhydon on top only for Golem to show up next generation and take Rhydons spot
@VuvuzelaTMАй бұрын
I used to pilote a Espeon during BW2 . What rly ended it's viability was te ban of sleep
@pokefanalex9504Ай бұрын
This video just made me realize that if Regice released later it should have gotten Refrigerate that would make its boom a better Alolan Golem that has no immunities
@justinalicea1590Ай бұрын
I'm incredibly surprised that Venusaur in Gen 5 was not mentioned. It literally fainted the instant Sun was banned, yet other Pokémon with the same reasoning were mentioned instead.
@thesillyone3837Ай бұрын
Gen 1 has such an odd viability since there are just 151 pokemon a mon can be used in multiple teirs
@LordBeauАй бұрын
I’d argue for Gen 7 tangrowth, considering that it’s been said that any analysis mentioning it is outdated
@facade6927Ай бұрын
it def aint so bad to make it on a list like this tbh. i still see it used from time to time on high ladder
@LordBeauАй бұрын
@ dude fell like 20+ places on the VR
@ogmechsftwАй бұрын
@@LordBeau to what, C+? that doesn't mean it deserves a spot on the biggest list of flunkies
@LordBeauАй бұрын
@@ogmechsftw Tangrowth is number 79 in the tier, sitting in C alongside such noted good pokemon as... gengar and, mega venusaur, and breloom, and... krookodile. All of these pokemon are fringe at best and I think going from extremely used wall that needs to be accounted for on every team to "oh yeah you exist I guess, anyway I'm going to click a move with kyurem" is a falloff worthy of being mentioned
@Green_Sentinel_3Ай бұрын
I still love Raikou. It's my favorite Legendary Beast & electric type pokemon.
@SeJoHuАй бұрын
Wow, a sponsor that is relevant and interesting!
@monster3339Ай бұрын
hooray for not having to hear about the narrators balls for once! 🎉
@JumboSizedRichardАй бұрын
0:01 STILL waiting for “How Good was Amoonguss Actually…” It’s been about 378 days of asking.
@isaacwoodman4289Ай бұрын
Gen 6 Azelf cheesed it’s way into a spot in OU at the end of the generation
@ZayloxitheАй бұрын
I love T-Tar but that 4x fighting weakness is brutal
@dannylopez5976Ай бұрын
I would say Gen 3 Scizor and Gen 1 Slowbro. Both seem more like noob traps then anything. Gen 3 Scizor being a terrible option for a Baton Passer, and a set up sweeper that doesn't have anymoves to actually attack with, and the bad bulk and bad base speed often keeping it from doing whatever it was trying to do. Gen 1 Slowbro without an Amnesia boost doesn't do enough damage, and while it tries to set up with Amnesia, it runs the risk of being crit by Gen 1 Crit mechanics from Starmie, Zapdos, Jolteon, or even Tauros. Some people are even crazy enough to try Rest on it only to watch it be 1 shot by crit thunderbolt.
@blufftonitevideoАй бұрын
What do E-vire and Beedril have in common, besides being yellow with black stripes? Why, their stat spreads and movepools working against them, of course!
@MeddadiusАй бұрын
The friends we dropped along the way.
@JustJulyoАй бұрын
Thumbnail game is so strong
@daunderrated3106Ай бұрын
Electivire and ducsknoir being ou due to new toy syndrome isnt even close to what gen 8 ou bisharp where it is so bad but it is the first mon in ou list
@JCBro-yg8vdАй бұрын
Now we need the opposite end of the spectrum: Top Five Best PU Pokemon of All Time.
@AppleBiscuitsАй бұрын
Dusknoir actually got better in Gen 5, since its ice punch set hard counters reigning OU president Lando-T
@dbt4869Ай бұрын
It's Ru
@AppleBiscuitsАй бұрын
@@dbt4869 ground-flying claws typed this post
@skeetermania3202Ай бұрын
Something to wonder about ladder usage irrespective of viability. Isn’t ladder kind of a different environment from the tournament or draft settings and, thus, favour certain Pokémon derisively seen by the tourney players? I mean, viability is a pretty subjective metric to judge by, BTW.
@tktyga77Ай бұрын
What about the long time OU mons & mons of other tiers have held said tier placings the longest across the gens & how they fell out at the points they did?
@Storme-1Ай бұрын
Surprised Gen 7 Mimikyu didn't make it here. I always knew the mon wasn't that good, but I remember seeing viability rankings at the time and it was literally the worst mon in the metagame. It only held on bc of it's popularity and gimmick
@ahousemouse16 күн бұрын
Bro. that Red Magic Phone looks sick.
@SomeBioniclewithaLaptop-w7sАй бұрын
Do a list of Uber Pokemon that were once good but fell off in later gens.
@thekrampusclaus4148Ай бұрын
Could add ORAS OU Talonflame to the list too
@PinkaholicOfficialАй бұрын
10:54 SPECTRUM MENTIONED 🔥🔥🐸👞
@thomasadams8463Ай бұрын
Jolteon having an actual use over raikou is not something i thought id ever hear
@nonomen6665Ай бұрын
Jolteon usurps Raikou in gen 3, Raikou usurps Jolteon in gen 4. Life is at balance.
@steeljaceАй бұрын
Can you do this for every tier
@MyRegularNameWasTakenАй бұрын
Ranking these in the order you did was a weird choice. Going from “Golem completely outclasses Rhydon in Gen 2” BACK in time to “Rhydon completely outclasses Golem in Gen 1” made me feel like I had a bad case of deja vu. Not to mention, starting the Golem section by referencing the Rhydon section that you haven’t gotten to yet is very confusing.