How GREAT was Gengar ACTUALLY - History of Gengar in Competitive Pokemon

[@FalseSwipeGaming]

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[@bdt2002gaming]

Not gonna lie, I might need a pair of these after seeing why Game Freak thought Mega Gengar was a good idea when they also deleted Shadow Tag Chandelure from existence. Talk about a double standard, am I right?

[@richardofarms]

😊😊​@@bdt2002gaming

[@x7251z]

How good was Bronzong ACTUALLY?

[@sparktaylor8489]

I wonder if gengar broke its back from carrying the ghost type for so long, thus it no longer can levitate anymore

[@Dr._is_sleepy]

It got paralyzed after saving VGC in its mega form(one can only have no legs for so long until you lose the ability to walk)

[@wizardmari3497]

Banette better quit it

[@edchanful]

LOL

[@adammorin2955]

@@Dr._is_sleepycrazy considering mega salamance was banned, mega mawhile was sorta banned and mega khanga was busted

[@unaffectedbycardeffects9152]

​@@adammorin2955vgc doesn't do bans (except for once during sesh)

[@pietrogiuffra8366]

Give my man levitate back😭🙏🙏🙏

[@ZeroKage-e8r]

He's gonna need that ability to keep up with all these new ghost types

[@BigSebi]

For the love of gawdddds pleaaaaaase

[@theabsurdityseries5597]

No He has legs now

[@ZeroKage-e8r]

@@theabsurdityseries5597 But Gengar in SV can be seen floating

[@AZV0108]

​@@theabsurdityseries5597 In Sun and Moon you literally see a Gengar floating in the Mimikyu's trial test

[@Lord_Nexus14]

Crazy how Gengar made it work back in the early gens 1-3 without a single stab move. Makes me think gen 4's special and physical split was mainly for Gengar.

[@OutisGreen]

It was even crazier that in Gen 1, bro was the only Ghost type, and he is also weak to the extremely dominant Psychic Type... and HE STILL MAKE IT WORKS. what a pokemon.

[@danka1167]

@@OutisGreenalso immune to the, in effect, best type in ou. Still impressive though

[@notfabio9858]

Gyarados also quickly comes to mind along with the other physical waters when I think of the split

[@fulgenzio89]

In gen 3 they introduced Absol, Crawdaunt, Salamence, Sharpedo, Drought Groudon without physical fire moves. They were one gen late 😅

[@12jswilson]

Gengar and Gyarados

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

Game freak: "You know what f**k you" *unlevitates your gengar*

[@oscara1573]

He cant keep getting away with it

[@gamet2004]

Ken Sugimori: Gengar is my favorite PKMN because he is the easiest to draw. Diglett: Are you sure?

[@rayyt5566]

Ditto: Am I a joke to you?

[@danka1167]

@@rayyt5566ditto seems hard to draw how you gonna remember the exact shape of a blob

[@danka1167]

@@rayyt5566actually drawing ditto is a whole self portrait

[@thatman666]

Voltorb: 😡

[@oscara1573]

Electrode: 😏

[@TheHero136]

All hail Gengar, the most iconic ghost type Pokemon of all time. An amazing staple of the game since its debut generation and one that is beloved by many.

[@Jlaps941]

Crazy that he was literally the ghost type back in Gen 1 since he’s the only F.E. ghost, and today he’s still THE ghost type

[@lvl5Vaporeon]

I was legitimately sad when the Gengar sat on those stairs waiting for his original trainer to come back...

[@DestronGaming]

I know!!! 😭

[@PeterGriffin11]

I think the scene would’ve been more sad if the animators actually gave Gengar a sad face that fit the tone instead of keeping that goofy smile on him.

[@bootstheone7143]

I think the goofy smile makes the gengar appear even more tragic

[@oscara1573]

Ghost runner 2049

[@foodmr2022]

now ash made that gengar one of the best pokemon in the world.

[@noside2746]

GENGAR MY LOVE!!!

[@moonlit8216]

We did it! We got our Gengar video 😁

[@雪者]

I can see why. Pretty good mon overall

[@CrybabyLucifer]

Gengar my beloved, I pray he's in every game that comes out

[@ubermaster1]

Gengar bros we are so back!!

[@Mojaveknight17]

Haunter > gengared

[@the_bookworm8281]

A special mention to Gengar's history is Mega Gengar being banned in Gen 9 NatDex Ubers. Gengar gained Encore in Gen 8, and while it doesn't really do a whole lot for normal Gengar, it absolutely broke Mega Gengar in NatDex Ubers thanks to its speed tier and Shadow Tag access. It was quickbanned after the first day of the tier's formation alongside Shedinja and Calyrex-SR (which is a day before they quickbanned Mega Rayquaza and Miraidon), becoming one of the most broken Pokemon ever created. Recently this past month, a NatDex Ubers tier was also created for Gen 8 as well (prior to Gen 9, only NatDex AG existed above NatDex OU), and Mega Gengar is unsurprisingly banned in that tier too. If Mega Gengar ever comes back to the mainline series, which is likely will given that Megas are returning in Legends ZA, it will likely be subject to the same fate.

[@monstermaster4524]

Probably won't get encore tho. Almost definitely gonna lose it, as in SV some me pokemon lost moves even when traded from other games (maybe in SwSh too, but idk).

[@the_bookworm8281]

It sorely depends if GameFreak has the foresight to do something about it, since Shadow Tag + Encore is an interaction exclusive to a Smogon tier that is completely made up from the actual games, so I doubt GameFreak would be aware of the interaction from NatDex alone.

[@MikemasterM1]

If he does come back for ZA they’ll prob take Shadow Tag off of his Mega. Wouldn’t be the first time they took away one of Gengar’s broken abilities 🤣

[@axlr8deathpls294]

​​@@the_bookworm8281Leaked gen 6 files have revealed that gamefreak did tons of huge nerfs to pokemon before their release. Mega garchomp was supposed to have 112 speed, talonflame was meant to have 103 attack, etc. as well as a scrapped mega evolution for Jynx. But in short yes they would at the very least be aware of the interaction and to balance it, gamefreak did also nerf the ruination quartet's BSTs before releasing SV iirc.

[@adammorin2955]

National Dex is being broken daily. Its just one of those formates

[@Derevien]

How SHAFTED did Gengar get ACTUALLY? (rip levitate)

[@normanmedialdea5503]

🥲

[@kylekiske_]

Some of you have never tried cursed body encore and it shows. Smh. You don't really love Gengar.

[@eradict]

​@@kylekiske_ They only love Gengar for its Levitate 😢

[@HelterwithoutSkelter]

​@@kylekiske_i love it when my gengar gets ohko'd (i encored)

[@sleazymeezy]

​@@kylekiske_yea, ko'd in one hit. That works so well.

[@cultfollower814]

The most amazing part about Gengar is that it was an utter monster in the first three gens of its existence WITHOUT STAB, despite being designed to be an offensive Pokémon.

[@Nikkidafox]

Gengar in Gen 1 and 2: Earthquake 👿 Gengar in Gen 3-6: Earthquake 😈 Gengar in Gen VII+: Earthquake 👿 Mega Gengar: 👁 😈 G-max gengar: 😈 👅

[@nathanwylie3382]

Just saved me an hour and a half lol

[@Hipsterjes]

If gengar is good = we are happy If gengar is bad = we pretend he is good and we are happy

[@nonomen6665]

The Zapdos remake is going to be like 2½ hours isn't it?

[@LightningZerker]

It'll have a 30 minute TCGPocket spotlight just to extend the duration to 3 hours, much like some movies.

[@Celon549]

2 1/2 hours or blunder going off on how braindead of a Pokemon Zapdos is.

[@guilhermedalcin1136]

Didn't Zapdos die off gen 8/9?

[@mintcake2668]

@@guilhermedalcin1136 It's currently in SV OU.

[@nonomen6665]

@@guilhermedalcin1136 Not at all.

[@ivanzegarra9765]

The only Ghost type in Gen1 and the only line in the entire series that had the Ghost/Poison dual type before Pecharunt. Took advantage of every mechanic it could and adapted, not to niches, but roles. Not difficult to say that Gengar was both iconic and great.

[@bdt2002gaming]

I legit forgot Pecharunt existed before reading this comment 💀

[@edchanful]

zubat line still the only poison flying type

[@christianbuffum-robbins8904]

I have a friend who loves Gengar. He's not a Pokemon fan, just a Gengar stan. I can't blame him.

[@Tiltigo]

I thought levitate was so fitting on Gengar because he's such a troll. Even though it looks like he's standing on the ground, he's probably just levitating an inch above it while smiling smugly about. I always thought that was on purpose.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

He can float high into he air, he just chooses not to in his idle animation.

[@OmniMon94]

Really wish they kept levitate But it's not like Gengar could take a hit anyways because Psychic is a thing But again less weaknesses over all of them at this point

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@OmniMon94 psychic type sucks right now so that doesn't really matter.

[@nexenojustice552]

@@gregorymirabella1423 coverage

[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

I'M BACK BABY

[@bigfudge2031]

Come back when you have a useful ability again.

[@Blanktester685]

@@bigfudge2031 he already has one

[@MiguelTier100Debater85]

HE IS BACK

[@bigfudge2031]

@@Blanktester685, he literally has a 70% chance of not having a usable ability.

[@oscara1573]

Wtf you are not in smash

[@elYIiLy]

i like how in gens 1-3 it is reasonable to assume that any gengar you see is using thunderbolt and explosion, and in gen4 it might but probably isn't using them, then starting in gen5 those moves may as well have never been in it's movepool

[@Connor_1989]

FSG back at it with another banger of a movie 😍

[@雪者]

My favorite thing to binge

[@zdelrod829]

Honorable mention to Mega Gengar's viability in Gen 7 Balanced Hackmons, where it was a Normalize + Entrainment staller.

[@hydrawarrior6839]

Also mega gengar is banned even from national dex ubers

[@shadowldrago]

That sounds hilarious.

[@kuitaranheatmorus9932]

Ah, Gengar the original ghost type. Glad to see it getting some love again as always and for Halloween this was perfect.

[@endofline2000]

Gengar deserved better. Idk why they changed his ability from levitate. "Hey Mega Ray is fine, but levitate gengar?!! Nah, that's too much, gotta nerf it"

[@cormeaga]

Also they made aegislash a gen earlier.

[@mentaloutonline9876]

its cuz they want the playerbase to use their new pokemon and want to shift the meta to newer pokemon rather than always using the same. Thats very common in competitive games when devs want to favor a specific meta and nerf the old ones

[@averygamerdude7911]

I mean, Gengar isn't floating to be fair...

[@RobinNicoagain]

"What about the fire cat starter?" "BUFF IT!" "Ok!"

[@adammorin2955]

Tbf mega rayquaza was a busted Pokemon and yet they did nothing not even a ban

[@BuckyDStickman]

0:27 Ah yes, *Mindy:* The character from Pokemon that is so hated, that sooner or later someone feels obligated to point out that there's a large, thriving subreddit dedicated to hating her.

[@shellyannwilliams2852]

28:50 Can we all appreciate FSG putting in Shiny Mega Gengar?

[@ballisticalrift]

Best shiny in the game imo

[@shatteredsentient5321]

​@@ballisticalriftCresselia*

[@BlazingCyberKnight95]

The long awaited remake is finally here!

[@JanizMakudomaru]

People always forget, just because Normal has no super effective types it hits, doesn't mean it CAN'T hit. Gengar was super necessary on teams back then for that immunity.

[@Skullhawk13]

Normal was straight up the best type in Gen 1. Tauros was MVP. Cuz, shockingly to modern fans, fighting was bad.

[@JanizMakudomaru]

@@Skullhawk13 Fighting was barely a type.

[@Skullhawk13]

@@JanizMakudomaru precisely.

[@bomberhood7234]

Finally, the remake we've all been waiting for!

[@bdt2002gaming]

Mega Rayquaza, Arceus, Zacian, and Calyrex-Shadow: Yoooo look at us getting banned from Ubers National Dex Mega Gengar: Amateurs. Mega Rayquaza: What was that? National Dex Mega Gengar: AMATEURS.

[@adammorin2955]

Zacian was banned from multiple formates don’t see him next to gengar.

[@AZV0108]

​@@adammorin2955 In fact, Zacian got banned twice, as both of this forms were kicked out from Ubers to AG

[@gunnemesisxxx7039]

Miraidon is banned too

[@bdt2002gaming]

@@gunnemesisxxx7039 You right, my bad 😅

[@SilverAlex92]

Regardless of anything in the most recent gens, the fact that Genga won the world championship on the year the primals and mega rayquaza were THE format its such an acomplishment that Gengar deserves his hall of fame ghost type status.

[@thel-iteralone4592]

A wicked part of me has been waiting eagerly for this remake just to hear FSG talk about Gengar getting its body cursed so hard by GameFreak in Gen 7, it can no longer levitate.

[@malareon]

its here! Its finally here! I am so hyped

[@Benbre08]

Crazy how he managed to be good against all odds, he beat the psychics in gen 1, survived gen 2 and 3 without a single stab move, and somehow stayed OU until the devs literally had to nerf him, what a mon, gotta love that guy

[@bart2873]

Every analysis talks about the importance of dealing with Gengar. It’s nice that there’s an analysis of WHY Gengar had to be dealt with.

[@videakias3000]

-does your dog bite? -no but it can hurt you in other ways -gengar will never go back to OU. (cries)

[@guilhermegalvao666]

He did it. The absolute mad man.

[@marcelosandoval4206]

I was just thinking about a Mega Gengar team in Gen 6

[@dokucroe3865]

Hopefully someday, if Game Freak has the "soul" to pull it off, Gengar will have Levitate again, but as a Hidden Ability.

[@foodmr2022]

that would work for it

[@ericlang7987]

Yes, a remake video on my favorite Pokemon!

[@teddyhaines6613]

Gengar remake! Great timing, the office is deserted today anyways.

[@blu6295]

>gets outclassed in Ou >gets immediately banned in UU >gets alllowed again in crown tundra >falls to RU because Blacephalon >gets banned in UU, while sitting in RU? what a Chad

[@Toni-uk4ks]

Yay, Gengar!

[@emajorjr95]

Can we get a "Abilities aren't everything" aka the Keldeo theorem where a pokemon with essentially a useless ability can still thrive in the meta

[@EdgarAllenPwn]

Ty BKC for the Evil Dead reference at the end

[@rockowlgamer631]

Considering how GameFreak added pokemon that are beyond ridiculously broken, makes you wonder why remove Levitate from Gengar. Not like Urshifu with the ability to ignore protect wasn't bad enough. Or giving Incineroar Parting Shot to making it even more potent as a supporter pokemon.

[@thunderbolt.04]

I WAS WAITING FOR THIS SINCE TWO YEARSS

[@tristandahn2284]

I have waited so long for this remake. What a good day to resurrect this classic.

[@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838]

47:28 bros wisping PRIMAL Groudon?! His plot armor is insane

[@doc_1203]

finally the remake i waited so long for

[@infernoprod8102]

One of my favorite ghost types! Love this guy!

[@mikerolfe1842]

How GOOD was Burmy ACTUALLY? My grandma wants this episode so bad, my man

[@dripsoup6639]

"…or going Terra Fighting, to really turn the table on Dark Types WITH A BEAUTIFULLY STRENGTHENED FOCUS BLAST."

[@axearmor214]

Happy Halloween everyone! The original elite Ghost-type is back!

[@milessteamaccount]

Gengar is so great that it's #1 on WolfeGlick's best ghost type of all time list

[@Entelarmer]

One of the simplest yet mot unique, iconic designs in Pokemon (in my opinion at least). And one of the first pokemon to get nerfed DIRECTLY and INTENTIONALLY, instead of being part of general mechanic changes. Years go, many new ghosts are added (most of them, honstely, pretty cool). But Gengar is still THE ghost type pokemon. Damn, what a movie. Thanks, FSG. :) *And take rest, damn it, :x).

[@vaporterra]

A happy Halloween movie for us! You spoil us!

[@bunnywaaah8091]

It's the guy in Nat dex Anything goes!

[@RocketPropelledMexican]

This boy's mega is an instant AG if he comes back in gen 10 with the gen 8 moveset

[@santaklaustheiii501]

Was considering waching an movie tonight... I suppose this will do

[@theprofessorpickler]

NEW RECORD FOR LONGEST FSG VIDEO IN HISTORY THATS MY FUCKING GOAT GENGAR

[@kyklous3657]

I feel like people exaggerate the impact losing Levitate had on Gengar's viability. Was it a nerf? Obviously. It lost a lot of free switchins. Some pokemon that had to carefully pick their movesets just to hit it could now do it without much thought. That being said, Gengar was already falling off on its own merit. I seriously have no doubt Gengar would have fallen to UU in gen 7 even if it still had Levitate because it would have been displaced by Blacephelon, but everybody acts like the loss of Levitate was just that damning. Sidenote, I've even heard people say Haunter was better because it at least has Levitate, and I'm like uh bro it's still Gengar. You know? Superior special attack and speed stat. Could have at least said Mismagius since it plays differently from Gengar...

[@randomtrainerx.3424]

The OG himself, Gengar! Happy Halloween!

[@Veecy]

Yesss I've been waiting for this

[@balakay5084]

Im so glad Gengar isnt just a cool pokemon but he's actually a really good mon

[@lightpunch00]

Banger

[@Jianichie]

Happy Halloween, FSG

[@Jlaps941]

He was (literally) the ghost type back in Gen 1, and is still THE ghost type today

[@trevorstevenson4038]

I love running Dusclops in Gen3 OU competitive instead of Gengar. Swapping in your Ghost Pokemon when your opponent Explodes, is very satisfying.

[@JumboSizedRichard]

0:01 STILL waiting for “How Good Was Amoonguss Actually”… Also happy halloween ^w^

[@victorAPR96]

1:11:50 T posing Metagross.

[@justinnzamora5366]

Gengar's remake has more video length than Landorus! What a tremendous treat for Halloween!

[@BrandonPlaysStuff]

Happy halloween :)

[@phyllotaxis]

I don't even care about levitate, I just miss Gengar's extra fluffy Red/Green design

[@Darockofanatic777]

Good thing i'm not the only one who likes his sprite in green!

[@BoWs1rJr]

FINALLY

[@NKurian]

We got to have a slowbro remake pls

[@TheRevolutionDF]

Dude I've been waiting forever for Gengar

[@pacoramon9468]

The only usable ghost type for the first 3 gens.

[@FirstLastname604]

I can’t wait for the Tyranitar remake documenting its journey of putting the fries in the bag

[@pnx073]

If they don't want to give levitate back they could have given it prankster, or even a unique ability that's like a passive Hex but for all moves and/or passive dream eater when hitting sleeping targets.

[@M3rtyville]

waiting for the counterparts to complete: - Carracosta - Seviper - other gen 5 monkeys - Gothitelle - incineroar - Tornadus - Aromatisse And I guess we could finish up Gen 2 with Sunflora, Magcargo (Slugma Male Grindset paying off when?) and Corsola. I think those are the only gen 2 Pokemon left to wrap it up.

[@HMZeroTwo]

I knew it was gonna get the remake it deserves and now it's finally here

[@ghost_walker_x]

I never knew Gengar got Thunder Wave till now, much less that it didn't get it till Gen 9. That feels weird to me.

[@ineedjuuce6414]

Babe wake up, the gengar remake is here

[@SharKing319]

As I remember from watching it when it happened, the controversy around Mega Gengar in XY Ubers led to controversy in Smogon's XY Ubers council at the time. They first tried to suspect Mega Gengar itself, which led to a "no ban" result. Then, immediately after that, they tried a Shadow Tag suspect test... which might as well have been a Mega Gengar suspect test because it literally couldn't exist without Shadow Tag. This display of double jeopardy raised some serious questions because it basically defeated the entire point of public suspect tests. The Shadow Tag suspect led to a "ban" result, and it was in effect for a little while, but it was then overturned when Smogon's upper management realized what was going on there. As I remember, several people in the XY Ubers council got banned as a result.

[@ianluk6385]

I just knew it would be coming on Halloween

[@Dukemaster]

A great pick for Halloween

[@clownbadd2127]

oh thank god for a second there I didn't think I would have a video to fall asleep to tonight 😅

[@bigfudge2031]

Just came here to say, why replace Levitate with a 70% chance of having no ability? one of the worst changes in the history of the franchise.

[@campionedi1764]

I love Gengar and mega form even more.

[@alucard4344]

13:31 You can hear the post recording correction, he sounded so done with everything when he said that "willowisp"

[@oscara1573]

Gengar Stadium animations are goated

[@wizardmari3497]

Nice video

[@brandontherabboat4850]

Guys, look! The greatest Ghost to grace the glorious generations of Pokémon! The grand ghoul, Gengar!

[@izzy-ycrep6drawde255]

By sheer coincidence, GMAX gengar was just added to POGO today (halloween)

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

I remember this mega gengar i had running around back in the day. Max speed and special attack, bold nature. Dual STAB, substitute, disable. Great mega kanga counter. Well a decent one at least. It lived a sucker punch. I was still new to competitive back then. EV spreads were meta, but the natures mostly covered the pokemons weaker defense.

[@BiggestSniff]

You should make a video listing your favorite competitive pokemon in each gen

[@callumsmile]

I be watching so many competitive Pokémon videos for someone who's never played competitive Pokémon

[@Rectal_Railgun]

Could we please get how good was heliolisk actually?

[@havoren]

YES!!! Now do a remake of Snorlax and Tyranitar next!!!! Please 😭😭😭