Honest Trailers Commentary | Secret Invasion

[@MarvelManMike82]

Love how Fury says that he and Captain Marvel knew there was no planet for the Skrulls when at the start of Avengers: Endgame we see Carol ON a lush and perfectly verdant planet who's one inhabitant gets killed, leaving it empty.

[@MarvelManMike82]

And thank you Honest Trailers for pointing out that, thanks to the Asgardians, humans are ALREADY tolerating another species living on Earth.

[@rsrocha1984]

​@@MarvelManMike82well that in particully can be explain. Like europeans receive Ukranians refugee with open arms but reject the ones from África and Middle East. Easier to accept when the refugee looks like you.

[@MarvelManMike82]

@@rsrocha1984 If only the Skrulls had the ability to make themselves look like anything they wanted. Alas.

[@gabelogan5877]

​@@MarvelManMike82 To be fair, Asgardians (mostly with a few exceptions) look like Scandinavian white people which would help with assimilation.

[@rsrocha1984]

@@MarvelManMike82 well, but their whole point is that they want to Live on Earth without having to change. In their own skin and apperance.

[@DianaAmericaRivero]

"Captain America's blood must never fall into the wrong hands lest someone reverse engineer the super soldier serum from it," was a plot point on an ep of Agent Carter.

[@touchtm5534]

I love it when Spence just breaks and just tells us what's next xD

[@arun279]

😂😂same

[@MissZeely]

I love how he's just so unbothered now 😅😅

[@PityOnlyFools]

The most intriguing part of the the show was the short paranoia/chaos sequence where humans attacking the suspected skulls in public

[@quiett6191]

Interesting moment, but the pro alien slant felt a little forced. They were going for "look how hateful and intolerant humanity is", but then contrasted with how the Skrulls were perfectly willing to nuke us into oblivion, the xenophobia is more then understandable. I'd have prefered for the ending to be a bit more balanced, with the uncertainty and paranoia extending into the next project (but given how disconnected all the current MCU stuff feels from each other, thats highly unlikely).

[@kadosho02]

When Winter Soldier, and Agents of Shield do spy thriller right years earlier.. why can't we tap into that type of energy again? Oh yes, I'm calling Agent's of SHIELD canon.

[@KumarShankarDe]

@16:51 or the planet where Thanos was farming in the beginning of Endgame. Literally perfect. And now, doesn't even have Thanos on it.

[@matchettian]

The exception to the “is it cake” rule is Andor, which is almost the opposite- good tv pretending to be just a Star Wars show to get Disney money

[@WolfRamAndHart]

Except, Gilroy did Rogue One, which gained over $1 Billion Box Office, on wrapping a loose end, though quality writing. So it wasn't pure coincidence. I'll say it again, I trust Gilroy and his writers to do Star Wars right. Give them the reins in mapping the future, or at least 1/2, like DC gave to James Gunn.

[@hkaayaakuu]

​@@WolfRamAndHartdc?

[@WolfRamAndHart]

@@hkaayaakuu Warner Brothers...DC Universe. Gunn is co- helming the future DC brand with a regular producer.

[@Ironbat92]

This show felt like what happens when you wish on a Monkey's Paw that you want a more serious Marvel project.

[@WolfRamAndHart]

Or just a mischievous semi-evil djinni.

[@Tzgrey77]

The TURKEY IS A LITTLE DRY ?!

[@Ironbat92]

@@Tzgrey77 OH FOUL, ACCURSED THING!!! WHAT DEMON FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL CREATED THEE?!?!?!?!

[@adventuresinAI1982]

They should have just said that the longer a skrull maintains a face the harder it is for them to shift to other ones for any period of time. That would give them a good excuse to keep using the same actors.

[@kevinw712]

plus Gravik sure seemed to have already been certain that Gaia was the mole even before the whole "barely avert a submarine/nuclear launch" mission, meaning that whole thing was done just for the audience's sake, like he knew that he was in a TV show

[@drewmur]

Isn't alien threats to Earth the EXACT reason that Fury formed the Avengers in the first place?

[@seekerdrone]

The discussion on what place the skrulls could settle in was the best 😂👍

[@ellicel]

This is exactly why we need a strong writer's room. The one primary guy seems like he's done good things in the past, but everyone else seems like they lacked the experience for something that would requires a lot of depth to be done well. I think they were out of their depth.

[@drewmur]

It was also awesome how she immediately knew how to instinctively use all of the dozens of powers from different alien species.

[@launchpadmcquack8142]

re: VFX artists, it's not the artists themselves who are looking to unionize, it's the on-set VFX production crew (ie: the people who set up the blue screen and capture images, etc.) They're much more trades people than artists so unlikely to have much effect on the actual look of the CGI. (Dan covered this in a video on his channel for anyone interested).

[@heidiwills4259]

I like the Is it Cake? analogy, but those sound like very good cake. This was more of dry vanilla.

[@SatanicHorse]

17:00 the planet where Thanos hung out after the snap seemed nice. Gotta clean up the body and head, but otherwise that seems like a great place to start.

[@drewmur]

It's been years, I am sure rats (or the alien equivalent) have cleaned up by now.

[@robotskirts]

First time I’ve felt maybe we shouldn’t make Lon watch every piece of garbage.

[@Tzgrey77]

LON CAN TAKE IT FOR OUR AMUSEMENT

[@jgrayson1940]

It's wild that I keep hearing "Loki season 1 was pretty good." It was my least favourite so far. I must need a rewatch because I must have missed something...

[@Mondo_182]

he said "you done being mean to me?" 😅

[@diyfilm1521]

Clark didn't even pretend to want to be there. She was so checked out the whole show.

[@aaronmorgan7525]

One quibble re Foundation - there have been some scenes on a total water planet that seemed very unrealistic (no wind, etc) and like it was two people on a soundstage. Regardless though, it is still gorgeous like everything else is. I’d be willing to bet Foundation’s relative budget efficiency is due to more planning and devoting the time to making CGI stuff look nice, with less changing things around in the 12th hour like Marvel Studios is apparently prone to do.

[@fedwyn]

5:40 shoutout to Foundation. A surprisingly really good David Goyer production

[@hkaayaakuu]

13:30 wow sju is sensical after all😂😂

[@lukasbohnenkamper4954]

I don't understand why a species whose very nature is to change their shape hates shapechanging so much.

[@xtreme666bio]

Well they have to actively do it. For them, it's probably like being made to smile all the time for a job. You could smile, it's not that hard, but it gets hard to do it 100% of the time.

[@drewmur]

@@xtreme666bio probably the best way to explain it.

[@blackdragon6]

Hollywood always had terrible politics regarding Anti-Villains who actually have a point. They have to make them cross the moral event horizon so that the government can still look like the good guys.

[@multiverse_media2023]

Except the government ARE NOT the good guys. We should be rooting for the villains!

[@Tzgrey77]

Quick make them kill random people 😅

[@calvinchristensen2818]

Lon "I'ma barely let you finish after I inturrupt you with my opinion rant." Harris. EVERY. TIME. SOMEONE ELSE. TALKS

[@thurmanwilliams7961]

The skrulls were wasted im the MCU. They were the reason Peter Parkers identity was revealed because Fury couldn't be bothered to give the glasses to Peter.

[@drewmur]

One thing I really disliked about Secret Invasion, was that the bad guy's plan was a crap plan. He kept trying to start wars in an effort to destroy humanity. World War 1 lasted for years and ended up killing about 2% of the world population, World War 2 again lasted for years, and saw large leaps in war technology and killed about 3% of the world population. So, even if the Skrulls some how were successful in starting another World War, it would likely not wipe out the whole of humanity. Plus, it wouldn't take much to have Fury or someone else tell the world and show them proof of Skrulls. Then there are blood tests or whatever at every government installation. Starting a nuke war is really difficult, because NO human wants that. They have space ships, just leave Earth. Fury didn't know about the million Skrulls that came to Earth. How did they get there? Why didn't they just leave? Why did the Asgardians get a chunk of Norway and the Skrulls got nothing? Also, the two people with every power ever, wasn't exciting it was boring. This is another example of people taking the name and premise of a well known comic event and doing a quick adaptation. In the comic it was this sweeping thing that shook the superhuman community. The story involved the Avengers, Fantastic Four, lots of heroes. This show had War Machine, minus the suit and Nick Fury. NO other hero even gets a cameo.

[@energyknowsbest7853]

The Loki burger will be alligator...

[@D_Rogers]

Olivia Coleman has done a TON of quality comedy, she can deliver a bit! :)

[@hkaayaakuu]

18:55 diverse skrulls😂

[@batmanvideogames]

wish you talked more about the sharon carter line

[@geoffishy]

I think the fact they are skrulls, along with the machine and the dna is why they could get the powers, so you couldn’t give these powers to everyone.

[@APLoanMarket]

If they have amachine that takes peoples memories, couldn't they just take Nick Fury's memories and find out why he didn't find them a planet?

[@BumMcFluff]

The real tragedy is that they could have just stopped at End Game (which is where I got out), and it would have been the perfect ending. But they just thought 'money!' and kept going.

[@MarvelManMike82]

I am so tired of this argument. They hadn't even gotten to the second Spidey movie by Endgame. And if you personally claim to dislike EVERYTHING since then fair enough but don't speak for everyone.

[@MarvelManMike82]

Just on a purely personal basis; SM: Far From Home - Excellent Black Widow - Fine Shang-Chi - Excellent Eternals - Misstep SM: No Way Home - Excellent Multiverse of Madness - Bad but has it's moments Love & Thunder - I like it but I recognise I'm in the minority Wakanda Forever - Excellent Quantumania - Garbage Wandavision - Excellent Falcon & Winter Soldier - Great Loki - Not for me but wildly popular What If? - Fun enough Hawkeye - Good Moon Knight - Bad Ms Marvel - Awful She-Hulk - Great Secret Invasion - Terrible Still way more good than bad.

[@KherMoon]

Honestly the last marvel series I watched was Loki and I don't plan to see any of the rest anytime soon. I think the MCU over saturated their own market, and is loosing all the casual fans like me with every new barely interesting show or movie they release.

[@Tzgrey77]

Hawkeye was good 👍

[@tagabundok1]

I'm surprised no one is pointing out that Roady didn't send his Secret Service man home after Fury broke the man's arm.

[@EvanPretzer]

For me, please show you are not Skrulls, care about humanity, and do Ski School 1 and 2.

[@Tzgrey77]

So the whole time a skrull was in the black panther movies??

[@Panthror]

A couple of things: 1: You need to be a Skrull to get the powers from the DNA. It doesn't work on humans as they wouldn't survive the process. 2: The US president wasn't attacked in Russia, but in England where such an attack wasn't expected. I get the criticisms for this show, but your complaint is void when the show explained it and you just didn't pay attention.

[@rikidastarace6590]

I normally agree with Spencer and Lon on their opinions of movies, but I still think Winter Soldier was a mediocre movie. The Hydra soldiers were beefcake Keystone Kops, and that made Hydra a silly villain.

[@hkaayaakuu]

34:11 the problem cw shows had

[@quiett6191]

The pro alien slant at the end felt a little forced. They were going for "look how hateful and intolerant humanity is", but then contrasted with how the Skrulls were perfectly willing to nuke us into oblivion, the xenophobia is more then understandable. I'd have prefered for the ending to be a bit more balanced, with the uncertainty and paranoia extending into the next project (but given how disconnected all the current MCU stuff feels from each other, thats highly unlikely).

[@kstepko]

I called my dad’s best friend Uncle Nick.

[@traviswladkowski1989]

Please do the honest trailer for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem

[@jim1242]

Miss oppornituiy with the is it cake netflix show - It should have been called Real or Cake

[@thevikingbear2343]

It makes sense in the show. The presenter asks to the contestants and the judges if ____ is cake.

[@DaisuSaikoro]

I missed the live telecast😢😢😢😢 why did i take a nap???

[@eatatjoe]

I hate this show a lot, but I really hate the fact that they're gonna use AI to replace all of their writers, so prepare for the writing equivalent to that intro.

[@gsueagle1178]

Lol what? Got 1 brain cell left I see

[@rmsgrey]

Sooner or later, someone's going to realise that they can replace the CEO with an AI...

[@suzvera5425]

Consummate Vs!

[@Fantasmister]

Olivia Colman was by a million miles the only redeeming element of this show. The rest was lazy, disconnected mush.

[@blackdragon6]

I disagree, I think the acting of Jackson and Mindleson was exceptionally good.

[@jim1242]

Yes, even Ben Mendelssohn felt like he was phoning it in during this series

[@Fantasmister]

@@blackdragon6 I meant more the characters and the writing than the acting itself, which was fine.

[@blackdragon6]

@@jim1242 see I disagree, his interactions with Jackson was the only thing holding the series together IMO. Their dialog was fantastic same with Cheadle and Jackson.

[@jatfield]

I think Gaia will be used to demonstrate how powerful the next big bad is, and will be swiftly done away with in a single scene. And it's kind of sad that this was such a crappy show that noone will shed a tear about it. It felt like it was written during the strike like those weak seasons and movies we got after and during the previous one.

[@Tzgrey77]

The fact this show botches super skrull so they have a make a bigger badder OP super skull the end is both sad and hilarious

[@madisonmcclure8243]

I remember when I watched Falcon and Winter Soldier. I saw Bucky getting has butt handed to him on the reg (Falcon didn’t fare much better). The action scenes were just so bland, and then I watched the outstanding fight choreography in CA2: WS. Seriously, every MCU hero plugged into TV gets epically powered down, it’s really disheartening to see. And they (the writers/show creators) can’t summon any enthusiasm to make these heroes shine. It’s sad.

[@pyricmobile26]

Do Gotham Knights for the DC side of things.

[@sonholee5769]

Seemed like there was a lack of writers... even before the strike...

[@JohnGoetzGaming]

WandaVision: Wanda does a terrible thing and yet Monica says "They'll never understand what you sacrificed" so i kinda hate them both now Loki: Loki sucks and constantly gets his butt whipped and lady Loki is amazing at everything! Hawkeye: Eh let's replace Clint with a lady! Hey at least she had some struggle and isn't perfect so this is probably my favorite of the bunch Falcon and Winter Soldier: Trashing on Steve saying he doesn't understand what he thrust upon his friend before making up a bunch of biases that don't even make sense (who calls him Black Falcon?) Because hey it's easy to Teflon yourself from criticism if you say some racists are bad stuff and act like that's bold. Who cares how clunkily it's shoehorned in? She-Hulk: Jen you don't understand being a Hulk. Yes i do im a woman and we deal with so much more. You and your universe saving antics can't understand the struggle of dating in your 30s and btw you're totally right because i lose my temper and suffer consequences until i break the universe and decide to use that godly power to only help myself and not just rewrite people so they don't have to go to jail. Secret Invasion: Nick Fury always sucked and here's yet ANOTHER lady replacement to take up a popular position cause apparently we have no faith in any woman to be her own thing. Screw it you're female Fury and female Talos and they both sucked. What have we accomplished? Well i guess we made things more diverse while shitting all over the original people for the most part. We also broke the universe telling you that nothing was really heroic cause it was all Kang or a Skrull or a Black widow or a member of the ten rings controlling things all along.

[@drewmur]

That little kid called him Black Falcon, that's at least one.

[@JohnGoetzGaming]

@@drewmur yes in that show. That's what I mean is they literally invented the problem. No one ever had that sort of prejudice against him in previous MCU shows or movies. Also was that kid even white? I thought the whole reason they decided to make that a problem was to play into "They'll never let a black man be captain America" which was flawed from the start since he literally was already lol

[@A-smokaTano]

Not to defend this show too much because it doesn't deserve it but they Idea that Avengers DNA erases the plot of phase 1/super soldier serum isn't true. The idea was the technology infuses avengers DNA with Skrull DNA specifically. Because they have the ability to absorb and transform it. That's why Gravik didn't care when he thought Nick Fury was in the machine with him. He knew it wouldn't work on humans.

[@DMCEagles05]

Not gonna lie. I liked this show

[@brianknight7897]

Skrulls are basically the duplicates from the David Niven, Peter Sellar's version of Casino Royale from 1967.

[@adventuresinAI1982]

You can already do AI way better than in the intro. They kind of jumped the gun there.

[@gregg6831]

I'm pretty sure i saw this with red shapeshifters in a Doctor Who two parter... Zygon Invasion/Zygon Inversion. That also had a lot of dumb plot holes.

[@firstaidforanthony]

Should we talk about how they used every anti Semitic conspiracy theory trope ever invented?

[@wowrada]

"thinks can't get worse after she hulk" disney: "hold my beer!"

[@nihaalguptafbd]

she hulk was at least entertaining. this was just nothing. not even bad, definitely not good. the plot feels more ai generated than the ai generated credits

[@DaisuSaikoro]

Yeah I imagine most would agree, ms marvel was much better.

[@wowrada]

@@DaisuSaikoro was ms marvel after she hulk? Forgot that even happened

[@prathapkutty7407]

​@@wowradanah it was before but it was very entertaining imo.

[@suzienkambule54]

The writing was so bad it was like they called in folks who hate the MCU to write it 😂

[@obsidian....]

This show was such a hot piece of garbage. The lack in depth of both story and character was disgusting.

[@childlike_pearl7617]

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[@JJ-ze6vb]

Secret Invasion is sooo boring.

[@nickshane5985]

This was just Peacemaker but worse.

[@gsueagle1178]

Apparently I need to get into the zeitgeist of just shitting on everything Marvel. AI intro looked cool to me and made sense but guess I have to feel butthurt about it.

[@BM-wh5qk]

My theory is that that the Game of Thrones chick already cashed her check, so they had to keep making episodes.

[@APLoanMarket]

they need the Russo bros back ASAP

[@digontozahid]

I get everything lon is saying but the foundation is a pretty mediocre series compared to the source material

[@R2-DPOO]

For context, I am an analogue artist who literally doesn’t know how to use photoshop and generally I am very sceptical of the use of ai particularly in art. Hearing your critique of the Ai opening credits just sounded silly. 1. It still took a great deal or artistry to execute 2. I thought it looked cool even though the show sucked 3. They didn’t do it on the cheap from what I understand it was a team of animators did it. 4. You downplaying the ability of the ai art is also extremely outdated and you are missing the point. We shouldn’t want humans to be able to make art because they do it better that computer because eventually the computer will be better we should support humans because of humanity. Ai art can draw hands way better than me and rob Liefeld but that is not the point.

[@eatatjoe]

LEARN, DIPSHIT.

[@Ironlantern723]

Yeah they had to program the computers to work the way they wanted to. So it's still man made, even if the heavy lifting is done by computers. Which is the whole point of advanced technology if you think about it.

[@1Rhettsgirl13]

Oh God, another week of hating everything about a project...yall have gotten downright depressing. I gotta take a break!

[@Ironlantern723]

Glad to see I'm not the only one that notices these guys are just shitting on the latest show or movie they're reviewing. When all you have is cynism towards anything you review, maybe it's time to retire and let someone new step up.

[@XenFayed]

This isn't my least favorite Marvel series, but it's in the bottom tier. (I think She-Hulk is worse and I didn't care for What If) It started out promising but quickly lost its shine and didn't really do anything interesting.

[@SINGHDASLAYA]

The problem with a lot of things now is that it's all phase woke industry-wide and it's at the detriment to the quality of the products and the services the consumers subscribe to. When they go into writing these movies and shows it seems like they go woke fascist left propaganda first and fit everything else around it when it comes to plot. I miss the pre-endgame era of the MCU, everything now is clearly pushing destructive agendas since the 2022 MCU stuff largely.

[@SpedeVesku]

Go touch grass

[@butchdeadlift10]

21:16 Well.......considering the 5 year blip and how Rocket Raccoon and Nebula were working with Tony Stark.........maybe some files were shared about who attacked who. Plenty of time to put indexes on "Ok, who was that big guy Bruce fought with the anchor and what was Squidward's name?". Yeah, they had time to collect names.

[@sigmasix3719]

Isn't it time someone said that the real problem marvel has is that these man made heroes and stories are being turned to mindless " it's so meaningful" soap opera mush by women directors and writers who if honest would admit to hating everything that made marvel comics good. Seriously!!!!

[@einootspork]

Isn't it time someone told you to shut up?

[@sigmasix3719]

Says 1 reply, so where is it ? Huh ? ?.....