SHOGUN 1X9 REACTION!! Episode 9 “Crimson Sky” | Hiroyuki Sanada | Anna Sawai | Full Episode Review

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[@Melodicroger]

Ishido does not want to kill Mariko. He wants her confined and neutralized (likely by Ochiba’s instruction). Mariko knew this in the end and that’s why she sacrificed herself, it completely undermines Ishido’s position (which Ochiba mentioned earlier). Mariko was ready to die at every point. She’s a real one.

[@overthewebb]

@@Daniel_Takeda Ishido wanted her taken away and captured, then he could say she got captured as she tried to escape outside the castle. She would have been released weeks later after Ishida defeated Toranaga. However, the plan went tits up and now Ishida is fucked

[@overthewebb]

@@Daniel_Takeda If Mariko died outside the castle it's also nothing to do with Ishido. Inside the Castle Ishido is f'd

[@overthewebb]

@@Daniel_Takeda The reason why I said it wouldn't be hard for Ishido to deny things. He could easily have claimed other rival families wanted her captured and he would have said she was captured after she escaped the Castle. She could also have easily have been held captive during this time for a few weeks and nothing she could have done. The Ninjas who attacked tried to carry her off alive. They had no intention of killing her and neither did Ishido.But it went wrong

[@overthewebb]

@@Daniel_Takeda Next episode Toranaga destroyes Ishido you will see

[@overthewebb]

John now also has a rage against Ishido, Ishido is f'd

[@beoborf8877]

For women of the Samurai class like Mariko, it's called "Jigai" and not "seppuku".

[@jm-ms2ri]

石堂の「条件」とは、ヤブシゲの「裏切り行為 」即ち忍者を招き入れ幇助する事だったのです。

[@13aker0]

Her poem, (true story) is what took the governor of shizuoka led his resignation last week.. descendants of Gracia (mariko) was so upset that her poem was used politically recently and set an outraged nationwide.

[@たみしん-e9z]

あなたは日本の時事をよく知っています。

[@theultimatewarlord69420]

That is truly disgusting, what a scummy act

[@ひさき-e8d]

Today, 400 years after that time. Her descendants exist. Her descendants famously expressed outrage when a politician who recently resigned in disgrace quoted her Death Poems

[@theultimatewarlord69420]

That is truly disgusting, what a scummy act

[@DrunkAlKrn]

So, in the novel, it is said that Yabushige has connections to the Amida Tong, an elite fanatic cult of assassins/shinobi. The favor Ishido asks of Yabushige, is to contact the Amida Tong, to not kill, but neutralize Mariko by kidnapping her, most likely to keep her isolated, so that she can no longer rile up the nobles. Historically, Ishida (Ishido) Mitsunari does attempt to take Hosokowa Gracia (Mariko) hostage in Osaka, but rather than allow herself to be captured, it is said that she had one of her retainers kill her (Due to her religious beliefs) before setting fire to the castle and committing seppuku himself afterwards. This FIRMLY plants A LOT of support for Tokugawa (Toranaga) against Ishida (Ishido), culiminating in what is to come.

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

This series is just an absolute MASTERPIECE ❤❤❤. No more words needed.

[@khaii13]

on a side note, you are the first reactors so far that got the fact that there was a specific communication between Mariko and Ochiba that only they are aware of. Mad props.

[@ssotkow]

Unfortunately they missed the ultimatum memo from Ishido to Yabushige. Service to avoid death. That service was betraying his allies by becoming the trojan horse... to capture Mariko and kill the rest.

[@max14719]

Don't be confused. Yabushige will side with whoever wins.

[@3pcgi959]

It was part of the plan. Toronaga plan was to weaken Ishido from inside. Mariko succeeded. Ishido has more enemies now.

[@Mugen3]

Yeah, I guess so!

[@thitran1362]

Toranaga made a loose loose situtation for Ishido. If she leaves then the hostage will be able to leave, if she dies then there will be revolt from the regents. He has contigency plans for everything, whether Mariko dies or not, Ishido is already done. Ishido make it worse by trying to kidnap her lol, now with her death Ishido will be seen as a killer and loose many support.

[@dakotalehigh7520]

I've been patiently waiting for this reaction! What a episode and series!

[@MustardSkaven]

99.9% sure she's gone. The real person she is based on also died refusing to be taken prisoner. I haven't read the book but it would be very wild if she survives in the book or show. Her death was important to the real historical events.

[@MrAkalankah]

Shinobi are ninjas. They came to capture and take Mariko away (to be kept as a prisoner secretly).

[@michaellockhart554]

The line in the poem in the great hall does have meaning, and everyone there understood it, Ochiba-no-kata translates to Lady in the room of the fallen leaves

[@jasminda2401]

Had me crying at 11 in the morning, man. I knew it was coming because I saw that she had a death scene in the original series but still.

[@Bnio]

We have become so used to Marvel-style story cliches that a story that doesn't hit those beats is mind-blowing. I hope we see more of this in stories for years to come.

[@wildreeds]

Exactly. The way they were predicting what's going to happen next is based on a superhero narrative swooping in to save the day. the fact that it took them awhile to clock that Yabu betrayed Mariko & co is because Yabu was not presented as a straight up villain (even though he literally boiled a man alive) so their minds had a hard time processing it.

[@たみしん-e9z]

単純なストーリーはもう必要ありません。バカみたいです。

[@solomonwan5211]

lady ochiba said if you let her die its bad and if you let her go its bad so the only option was to capture her so she doesn't die nor go, yabushige killed the guards at her estate to let the intruders in. it was rather obvious for me. Just a shame that yabushige only sides with the winner and he mistakenly believes that is ishido. He should have known after all these years that toronaga simply doesn't lose

[@makelvin]

Actually, Yabushige always play both sides. He came back to the compound and pretended he knew nothing about his and even tried to escape with everybody. This way, even if Toranaga end up winning at the end; he is still on the right side. Love him or hate him; this is how he always covers his a**. 🙄

[@dyleanzachaev2470]

that is the cost for playing both sides. Either you win or lose too.

[@ke5146]

He knows remember he was beggging mariko to tell him toranaga plans but this time toranaga trick him last round now he doesn’t know which side to chose

[@warhawk_yt]

Yabushige is what you would call a snake. He will constantly switch onto whatever side is currently winning. Ishido most likely used him as a trojan horse. The actor that plays him does such a good job at making you like him that you sometimes forget he is not the best person.

[@justwatch7091]

Yabushige played both sides so he came out on the bottom lmao

[@alanfoster6589]

Note that when John asks Yoshi to help him barricade the door, Yoshi declines. He's part of the kidnapping attempt and still wants to see it pulled off.

[@plectrumura]

I swear this episode should have been called “Crimson Cry.” Anna Sawai did absolutely incredible work with the character of Mariko. I love that character and her portrayal. I’m super bummed to see her exit the show (presumably), but hopefully this means Anna Sawai is in basically ALL of the movies and shows going forward. She deserves it.

[@和久井淑子-v2e]

Ishido sent shinobi=ninjas to take Mariko as a hostage because he couldn't allow her to leave next morning nor could he allow her to kill herself either. Mariko surely undestandood this when shinobis attacked, so she took the opportunity to die herself by shielding others from the bomb.

[@LSThrowaway]

I really don't understand how you thought they were Toranaga's ninja. Literally like one scene prior we witness Yabu accepting the message that he is now in Ishido's service, action instead of death, etc.

[@mitchmatt6002]

Right? He kills a guard who's wearing Toranaga's clan symbol, they remembered Ishido requested something and wondered what it was, Mariko states they're here for her, AND Yabushige's got form for being loyal ONLY to himself....

[@LSThrowaway]

@@mitchmatt6002 I think they were too busy talking to each other and trying to have big reactions for the camera that they missed several obvious details/lines of dialogue

[@justwatch7091]

@@LSThrowaway Indeed. I was also facepalming so hard when they scream "Crimson Sky is gonna save Mariko". Like, what? They can't connect obvious plot points.

[@rauliuxaa]

Them being happy for Yabushige killing the guy was hilarious, they thought it was Toranaga

[@kansairobot2015]

lol

[@liamlvp3886]

I was laughing at ther reactions at the time too. I was like "not so fast, juniors" 😂

[@rauliuxaa]

She was going to do it dunno how he thought she wouldn't considering he knew she's been seeking for death, and that killing herself like that, she'd be giving Toranaga a lot of tools in the battle, i think her plan was to go there and die, so she could people turn against Osaka and Ishido for whats he's done, so in the end, she did what her plan was, now Ishido will suffer. That's what i think anyways, i might be wrong tho.

[@theultimatewarlord69420]

Her purpose was always to "infiltrate" Osaka and die within its walls. She was the "Crimson Sky" itself. In that way, her death will make Ishido public enemy number 1

[@unbeheld]

Yabushige is out there looking out for #1. He point blank asks Mariko what is Toranaga's plan. Since she won't confide in him, he tried to make a side deal to which Ishido accepted by allowing him to open the outer gate for the ninjas. After he secured the assassins, he still needed to "act" like he's surprised and sounded the alarm. Total scummy move, but also totally in character to someone willing to do whatever it takes to survive. The plan was to capture her alive and confine her in a hidden place and they can say w/e they want to the rest of the nobles. All they need to do is run out the clock for 2 weeks until Toranaga is within their grasp. But since she committed a form of seppuku to avoid capture now there's going to be a shit show once the other nobles ladies acts as witnesses.

[@JayNSG0]

Mariko has essentially guaranteed that Ishido not only cannot become Shogun for the people but also seriously called into question his oath and duty to Osaka as one who upholds the laws it was founded on. Very smart of her, he will be public enemy #1 and take total attention off Torunaga who will finally unleash Crimson Sky.

Toronaga needed the heir's army. For that, he needed Ochiba to understand that he (Toronaga) isn't an enemy. For that, he used his biggest weapons: Hiromatsu and Mariko. Without Hiromatsu sacrifice, Mariko couldn't go to Osaka (with Toronaga's guards), and by Mariko's words and push through the gates, she forced the nobles to take positions... and being close friend of Ochiba, the "message" that Ishido isn't a noble person, and marrying him would be a mistake. With Mariko sacrifice, Ochiba have to choose who is the right one to support. Toronaga or Ishido.

[@rolynik]

You have to remember everyone within that compound are loyal to Toranaga. As usual Yabushige plays both sides… i don’t think Yabushige necessarily wanted Mariko to die… and it looked like they were trying to capture rather than kill her. Ishido was resorting to the “bandits” line to solve the “rock & hard place” situation he was in with releasing his “hostages” & not risking an uprising by outright killing or harming them. Toranaga now has the moral & ethical high ground to advance on Osaka… banking on gaining favour with especially the Church & the Catholic Regents to turn on Ishido. I think this was also Marikos reason to receive the Sacrament prayer or hymn from her longtime Priest & mentor.

[@redtaipei]

Kidnapping Mariko was the middle ground by Ishido and Co. but he fumbled the ball when Mariko accidentally killed by the blast. What an episode and reaction as always.

[@eodyn7]

lol you guys not understanding what was happening is funny.

[@iheartkeita]

I like Yabushige. He has been one of the most entertaining characters in the show. But at the end of the day, he fights for himself and his own survival. So he will side with whoever he thinks has the upper hand

[@khaii13]

Despite my criticism in previous episodes about how Mariko continued to handle her domestic affairs, especially after how the truth of as to why she was kept alive has laready been revealed; I do have all the respect in the world for Mariko, the Retainer. She fulfilled her duty and managed to say out loud what every Lord in Osaka was feeling but were too afraid to say. And she was committed to everything to the end. (Minor Tangent: I am happy the gate scene was not a "girl-power mopping the floor with all those men" moment) Now all of Osaka's Lords are soured against Ishido; and Ochiba might have to put the engagement on hold in order to Mourn Mariko. Her mission is a success. Speaking of which, its so heartwarming and heart breaking that scene between Mariko and Ochiba. I'm Happy Ruri-hime did not just outright hate Mariko for being her father's daughter; but their exchange was so heartbreaking as they both knew each other so well and what the other was doing and them pleading with each other to make the step to end the hostilities and saying their goodbyes like that... i think I'm sweating through my eyes. And Blackthorne finally doing the right thing and deciding to Second Mariko, instead of just dismissing all of Japan's customs and cultures as BS , that was the best gift he could have ever given her. Mariko chose where to meet her end and did not go to the gate where she would get captured as Yabushige intended, she made herself an example of the duplicity of Ishido, just as Ochiba warned the council.

[@CCARL11]

It looked like they wanted to make it look like Toranaga sent troops to get them out but by her using her body to shield them and save them from the explosion there are witnesses to his plot.

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

Mariko is the most boss female character I’ve ever seen and it was done right. This is how you write a strong female character ❤❤

[@kristoporuschristoper787]

16:40 yabushige traitorous act was very obvious here

[@8492timothy]

Does anyone know if Miyamoto Musashi was on Tokugawa Ieyasu side

[@user-puyopuyo7]

Yabushige betrayed Mariko and the others. First, Yabushige stabbed to death a samurai wearing a kimono with the Toranaga family crest. Ishido was the one who used the ninja. Yabushige was the one who opened the door for the shinobi. Yabushige will be beheaded and exposed. They should not be allowed to die in an honorable way like seppuku. Yabushige was stupid. He wasn't a villain at heart, but he was stupid. Mariko's courage to have sex with Anjin in an unlocked room in the enemy's castle where all sorts of dangers remain, and then sleep together until morning is amazing🤭Both of them have no sense of crisis.😂

[@Mugen3]

lol🤣

[@yukatuna8823]

I think Denise is right about the last scene of this episode. Toranaga killed Mariko. It’s because Toranaga needs to let people know Ishido is not a right person to give their royalties. It will lead to collapse their government. Akechi Jinsai ( Mariko’s father)’s royalty to Toranaga was deepest, cuz he knew Mariko will be Toranaga’s secret weapon. I am Japanese and from a long rooted family. I married to a guy who has more bigger name than mine. But his family is not financially stable these days. Since our marriage he worked so hard for me and my little sons but not able to get back to old days. I have been feeling sad and miserable for a long time but Mariko reminded me I have much power and stronger. I can use anything and everything to protect my family too.

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

Those dang bandits are everywhere- Ishido’s plan

[@nont18411]

Nagakado might have slipped his chance to honor his dad but Hiromatsu truly showed that he has guts and Mariko is such a bomb.

[@DrunkAlKrn]

...xD Phrasing.

[@princesadelaos]

buntaro is in edo

[@vizardma]

the shinobi signs at the door tells all , we just need a ninja translator

[@majemaje0805sweetvoice]

Please do a second season. Just like in Game of Thrones, even after the novel ends, I improvised and created an original script to continue. The general has a true story with many ups and downs.

[@joecochran7797]

Mariko's death from Ishido strengthens Toranaga's position against the Regents. Mariko is a pawn in the long game for Toranaga to gain the power for the Shogun, as well as John Blackthorn (he just doesn't know it). Also, Toranaga is playing Chess while everyone else is playing checkers. He see's the whole board while everyone else is resting their eyes on just one piece.

[@alexhidalgo7110]

Love it great reaction

[@pangkaji]

Like Hiromatsu before her, Mariko knew her part well. She knew she had to die by seppuku and incite a revolt among the nobles. When that did not happen, she made sure she died to keep Toronaga's plan on track.

[@gundarvarr1024]

22:28 its the room number layout where Mariko stay.

[@YourMajesty733]

Yabushige doesn't know the secret plan, so he is trying to save his own ass. At minimum he is a coward, and at worst he is Ishido's mole.

[@ExcitedGalaxy-lh2ev]

I feel like you guys missed the moment when Yabushiges consort came with a message from ishido beckoning him to let in the assassins

[@numanumame]

23:06 the other highlight of the episode

[@uchinan_chiburu]

yabushige is killing his allies for ishido

[@jeffandjoannbauer9567]

Ishido’s ninjas were trying to capture her, not kill her. Mariko could not allow that. Her final words are extremely significant: as a samurai, she is formally accusing Ishido of her murder and doing it in front of highborn witnesses. She knew what she was doing.

[@rjelruiz5867]

19:52 First time I hear you speak in Bisaya. Fellow Bisaya Filipino here :)) Also, Mariko-sama! HO!

[@Hiko-bw3nn]

There is no peace without war Ochiba落葉 is Nobunaga信長's niece Mariko鞠子 is Akechi明智's daughter(princess) buntaro文太郎 and mariko鞠子 fight and die for toranaga虎永 As a result, it helps everyone mariko fulfilled his duties as an official in place of his father. If you keep toranaga alive, there will be peace

[@Mugen3]

I guess Mariko's death is a part of the plan "Crimson Sky".

[@theultimatewarlord69420]

She was "Crimson Sky" itself as her whole purpose was to die within the walls of Osaka and get the outcome of making Ishido public enemy number 1

[@npierce14]

“Is he gonna kill her” not in the literally sense but he’s gonna be killing something in her

[@JL-gx6os]

Mariko had to die to let lords/aristocrats to see Ishido’s dishonorable ways. She also made a veiled insult while bringing this to light. Ishido is a peasant while Mariko comes from a long aristocratic lineage and she should not be restricted as if she was a peasant. She’s calling out to all aristocrats on the fringe to take Torinaga, another aristocrat to fight against a peasant taking power

[@gujit]

i too ruined this episode for myself by thinking this was all part of Toranaga's plan, so i didnt feel the same weight of emotions of when Mariko was going to seppuku as everyone else did

[@jeffrogers2180]

Dude, you are a terrible guesser! You were wrong over and over. 😂

[@ronnierodriguez6247]

I seen the 1980 tv series so I knew a lot

[@lemiergnalag8310]

😎👍❕️ Would you'l take suggestions of possible spinoff mini-serirs you might like to watch such as... Shogun: The Bushido Code Shogun: The Willow World of Edo ('nuff said) Shogun: Battles of the Faiths (Catholics vs Protestants vs Buddhists) Shogun: Tales of Wajiro's Stone Garden Shogun: Sepuku of a Warrior, The Permanent Solution To A Temporary Problemshog Shogun: Yabu-Shigi's Book of Death #KatanasAndKimonosRock

[@SkadoooschMovieRanking]

What an episode...this bit in particular... kzbin.info/www/bejne/poe9n5-umsyDgrc

[@jasperz1549]

Hi

[@lalia346]

RIP

[@leandromata3104]

For me the serie lose grace! I loved the Mariko!

[@f1mbultyr]

Oh no, your feelings are of course more important than what actually happened historically. What an oversight by the show runners not to consult this little shit rag

[@leandromata3104]

@@f1mbultyr I didi ask yor something for no brain? dame it the screenplay, I loved the woman !!! goes to hell!!! 😄

[@thefirstbourne149]

@@f1mbultyrThis isn’t historical. It’s set in the same time, not historical.

[@thefirstbourne149]

Also, it means the screenplay did a good job, dammit.

[@f1mbultyr]

@@thefirstbourne149 It's based on real historical people. Yes, it's fictionalized, but still

[@羅尼尼]

Yabushige he is double-side SPY

[@khaii13]

Yep. And if you look at the crest on the shoulder of the kimono of the samurai Yabushige killed, it was one of Toranaga’s men.

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

Mariko is the most boss female character I’ve ever seen and it was done right. This is how you write a strong female character ❤❤