Fantaghiro - strong female character done right

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Folk Walk

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@CrestOfArtorias
@CrestOfArtorias 2 ай бұрын
"Because strong female characters have never been done before" - Some modern audience writer. "No you just havent been watching them or lack media comprehension" - Anyone whoever watched a decent amount of movies.
@friendcomputer5276
@friendcomputer5276 2 ай бұрын
Or alternatively: "You cleary have no idea what a strong character is". Because a lot of the time it seems like they mistake being an asshole for strength.
@chrisdiokno5600
@chrisdiokno5600 2 ай бұрын
@@friendcomputer5276 Or making them a near emotionless gun machine
@yersiniapestis5237
@yersiniapestis5237 Күн бұрын
no modern audience writer is saying this wtf are you on about
@friendcomputer5276
@friendcomputer5276 Күн бұрын
@@yersiniapestis5237 I know that we like to treat the disney star wars trillogy like an unproduct that never existed, but you really don't remeber that utter clusterfuck that was it's marketing? Because the people who made that slop did indeed prance around like they were the ones to have invented the concpet of "strong female charcater"
@randomthoughts6680
@randomthoughts6680 2 ай бұрын
I'm a simple girl. I see Fantaghiro, I click.
@AgagaSnsns
@AgagaSnsns 2 ай бұрын
There are people outside Italy who know about Fantaghirò ? I'm blown away by it.
@randomthoughts6680
@randomthoughts6680 2 ай бұрын
@@AgagaSnsns Yup. In Brazil I only found the second movie simply titled "A Lenda da Princesa Rebelde", it had a professional editing in the VHS release and also a cast of highly recognizable voice actors from the 90s. I remember that unless you had access to vídeo rental shops (which my mom owned back before DVDs became the new thing, so that's why I had access to it), almost no one spoke of it. I tried searching for the other movies dubbed in Portuguese, but found none, so I kinda had to watch in Italian or English.
@CvSp22
@CvSp22 2 ай бұрын
There are people outside of Italy of cause. And yrs, the dragon ring is from the same producers, starring Franco Nero and Sophie von Kessel. I still have the VHS 😊.
@didislab
@didislab 2 ай бұрын
@@AgagaSnsns I am from Greece and I also grew up with Fantaghiro!!
@huro1845
@huro1845 2 ай бұрын
​@@AgagaSnsns Absolutely! I am from Germany, and they would show parts 1 and 2 one Christmas, next year 1 to 4, the year after 1 to 6, and so on. I absolutely loved this show. Like this video said: There wasn't that much fantasy on our tv back then.
@mojrimibnharb4584
@mojrimibnharb4584 2 ай бұрын
Strange thing is, this is exactly the character arc we have ALWAYS seen with male heroes. Joseph Campbell laid this out 75 years ago but, for some obscure reason, modern media has decided that female heroes must be mary sue perfection from the start.
@jackdeniston6150
@jackdeniston6150 2 ай бұрын
Because that is who women are. No learning, complete denial of any fault, no hint of discomfort. This is why every relationship fails, because women destroy everything.
@rickallen8767
@rickallen8767 2 ай бұрын
Xena doesn't get talked about enough. Holy shit that show, character of Xena and Lucy Lawless were freaking epic!
@divxxx
@divxxx 2 ай бұрын
And it was even better than the alter-ego show Hercules with male protagonists. Xena was much more badass and mesmerizing than Hercules.
@andrewshaughnessy5828
@andrewshaughnessy5828 2 ай бұрын
I still own the entire series on VHS!😀
@finezyjnafantazja2495
@finezyjnafantazja2495 2 ай бұрын
Xena was fun. Very masculine energy and attitiude yet could deal so well with feelings too.
@rickallen8767
@rickallen8767 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewshaughnessy5828 Jealous, I want a remastered video collection
@Mik-H
@Mik-H 2 ай бұрын
I've never heard, or seen, Fantaghiro. But now, somehow, i need to try and find them to watch. Thank you for bringing them to my attention 😃
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
The links for the series are in the description. Enjoy 😉
@YourCRTube
@YourCRTube 2 ай бұрын
It is great, not taking itself seriously, yet not making a joke of itself.
@aisute8222
@aisute8222 2 ай бұрын
Hi from Lithuania, I also grew up with "Cave of the Golden Rose" and "The Dragon Ring". I really enjoyed your video! Please make more. Not a lot of people are talking about these productions. Fantaghiro was a very formative character for me growing up
@Gorgo523
@Gorgo523 2 ай бұрын
The armors in Fantaghiro looks better than in Rings of Power. Honor and glory to the Smithis of Bohemia.
@creepydoll886
@creepydoll886 2 ай бұрын
I’m Italian and I grew up with Fantaghiro ❤
@QueenPersephoneKore95
@QueenPersephoneKore95 2 ай бұрын
Lamberto Bava, the director of all five "Fantaghirò" films, also produced other Italian fantasy films such as "Desideria and The Dragon Ring", "Alizea/Little Sister and the Prince of Dreams" and "The Princess Mirabella and the Pauper Boy/Plebeian Boy". Amedeo Minghi instead composed wonderful soundtracks for all these films!!!
@romybank
@romybank 2 ай бұрын
Fantaghiro and Dr. Quinn - Medicine Woman were my life force growing up.
@warcheef
@warcheef 2 ай бұрын
You'd probably be surprised to know Fantaghiro was often on TV in the former Soviet Union in the nineties and early two-thousands. I remember enjoying it very much. The US really missed out on this one. I even saw the animated spinoff show later, when it was on TV in my country as well.
@roosterdf
@roosterdf 2 ай бұрын
I'm Polish. Can confirm.
@skipperg4436
@skipperg4436 2 ай бұрын
Can confirm. Watched it on TV when I was a kid.
@AndreaFasani
@AndreaFasani 2 ай бұрын
really? I thought it was famous just in italy. My goodness, that made my day hahaha
@biggusduckus6489
@biggusduckus6489 2 ай бұрын
@@AndreaFasaniin Russia we watched it , too. Loved it as a kid. And still remember =)
@NyemeeGlass
@NyemeeGlass 2 ай бұрын
Polish here, aswell. When Americans kept droning about "no female heroes" I was like "Fatraghiro, bruh?" A whole series, too. More movies than Star Wars have.
@daneyal7162
@daneyal7162 2 ай бұрын
Ah, Fantaghiro...now that's a name I hadn't heard in a long time...thank you for reminding me of her :) .
@januszlepionko
@januszlepionko 2 ай бұрын
I'm simple Polish man, I see Fantaghirò, I click thumb up.
@xsdjkl
@xsdjkl 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for making content such as this. It's one of the main reasons why I like your chanel so much. It's great to learn about media that I wouldn't have heard about otherwise. Keep up the good work.
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos 🙂 I’ll definitely create more content in the future about lesser-known media 😉
@christophlade7796
@christophlade7796 2 ай бұрын
Fantagiro fights for her Love ( till the last two Episodes, they got a horrible end ) and to save her Kingdom, has a Mentor who teaches her how to use a Sword and was careful for weaker People ( especially Children) . She would never have a chance today with such a noble Character. We live in the dark Age of Guyladriel and Rey Nameless.
@vulfreyde
@vulfreyde 2 ай бұрын
They're making a Fantaghiro remake? I think we all know exactly how this is going to end up.
@alexschwarz4749
@alexschwarz4749 2 ай бұрын
Oh god please no. What's happened in the past years to many classics is the media equivalent of grave desecration. Can't they write something new?
@Zaphod771
@Zaphod771 2 ай бұрын
​@@alexschwarz4749, uh...no. I think that everyone knows that the "new" characters they invented are as gay as the rebooted versions of old characters
@andrerobinson3233
@andrerobinson3233 2 ай бұрын
@@Zaphod771 They will make her black I am certain of it.
@robynmarler1951
@robynmarler1951 2 ай бұрын
I want to see it, it looks fantastic!
@bjornzimmermann7081
@bjornzimmermann7081 2 ай бұрын
You're absolutly right. It's not enough give a female character a trope of a toxic male character to make them look strong. Strength means to overcome dilemma or obstacles. We loved Aragorn in the in LOTR Movies, because he could fight the orcs in a glimpse he mourns the death of a comrade with believable tears in his eyes. Let the female protagonists have the same believable range of virtues and emotions.
@ohcomeongetoutofhere
@ohcomeongetoutofhere 2 ай бұрын
Great video. I also watched Fantagiro when i was a kid. I feel lucky being European. There are no shows like that anymore. Characters were really growing, learning from their mistakes. Nowadays they come already all knowing and act cocky. Then, they were going on adventured and we were watching leisurely. Today we are only lectured about this and that from the screen. I just remembered another female lead from those times, but it's animation series ''Marianne Premiere''.
@samuelleask1132
@samuelleask1132 2 ай бұрын
For a low budget show the costumes still look better than the Netflix Witcher show
@mindbrain935
@mindbrain935 2 ай бұрын
Great video and suggestion. Thank you!
@LakrimaProject
@LakrimaProject 2 ай бұрын
Ohh Fantaghiro! In Poland we had it on TV too. Great series with such charm.
@usagi3093
@usagi3093 2 ай бұрын
Loved watching this fairy tale as a kid, I loved the Black Witch. And of course the main musical theme is a masterpiece, still often plays in my head.
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, the Black Witch woke up something in me 😅 But she was really just a cool over the top villain 🙂 I really liked her knights but looking back at it, their armors are ridiculous (especially the oversized helmets). But when I was a kid they seemed really cool to me just because they wore black and were mostly silent (sort of like Boba Fett or even better, Darth Maul) 😁 Even the king seemed cooler when he was in black with that iron mask 🖤 That whole aesthetic was pretty metal 😃 I also loved Tarabas 😁
@eggardkingofthemountain1592
@eggardkingofthemountain1592 2 ай бұрын
This reminds me somewhat of a young adult book series I adore. Cronache del Mondo Emerso (Chronicles Of The Emerged World) by Licia Troisi, where (in short with some very minor spoilers) the main character is a brash young female warrior who over the course of the trilogy starts to get extremely humbled. Going from basically a wrathful berserker to one who gives up the blade entirely, leaving to start a family on the very edge of the known world. It may not be a legendary masterpiece, but it's something that has stuck with me ever since I first read it when I was 18. Honestly in my humble opinion young adult fantasy peaked in the early 2000s, as back then they were books that were generally suited for all ages. Instead of the shlock that the tag now represents.
@Melian07
@Melian07 2 ай бұрын
I'm from Czechia and enjoyed this series a lot as a child when it was on TV!
@Mr.RobotHead
@Mr.RobotHead 2 ай бұрын
I don't think I had ever heard of Fantaghiro before, but now I want to watch it.
@andrewshaughnessy5828
@andrewshaughnessy5828 2 ай бұрын
I'll have to take a look at this series. I really liked the sisters' armour, as it looks like it's actually made to protect them!
@riveraharper8166
@riveraharper8166 2 ай бұрын
Loved it as a kid! Aim for the sun!
@zumzoom6368
@zumzoom6368 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've seen this as a kid too, Fantagiro was one of my first crushes. Funnily enough I completely forgot the name of this series and struggled to remember it about a decade later when I first got access to internet. Then something prompted me to remember it (or maybe I stumbled upon it), and that was like the best nostalgia rush!😄 Your video made me realize that it's in Italian, and I wanted to learn the language some years ago. Maybe I'll start with Fantagiro.🙄
@ROMANTIKILLER2
@ROMANTIKILLER2 2 ай бұрын
Now this brings back memories! In the 90s, Fantaghiro movies were broadcast on Italian tv around Christmas, and I remember really enjoying them as a kid (at least the first three). And indeed, Fantaghiro was an engaging character because she went from a rather insufferable brat to a kind-hearted badass, and I remember that as a kid I found her becoming a knight-pricess by overcoming all the challenges in front of her to be really cool. Modern Hollywood woke female lead are despised by most not really because of politics but because they are badly written characters with the depth of a puddle, who essentially amount as power fantasies of their (activist) writers.
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
Well said 🙂
@huro1845
@huro1845 2 ай бұрын
Not only were these "modern" characters "always perfect from the start, just repressed", they are also quite often not nice people, instead they are often really mean, condecending, amoral - you name it.
@storsolo
@storsolo 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the link so i can watch Fantaghiro. I have not heard about it before
@saelind73
@saelind73 2 ай бұрын
Kim Rossi Stuart, my first love. 😍
@rpgadventurer32
@rpgadventurer32 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Fantaghiro was a classic series and I grew up on the series as well! Despite the relative lower production values compared to modern day productions, the series of movies from 1- 4 (because I don't consider the 5th at all) was a beautiful resonating adaptation of that classic tale that presented a great tale with a female heroine who wasn't a "girl boss" but had heroic qualities and managed to save those she loved using her skills, her wit and with the help of her companions. The series had an incredible OST and beautiful medieval European aesthetics. If there is anything that deserves to be remade with a big budget it's Fantaghiro because it actually deserves to have proper respectful modern adaptation with a big budget whether as a series of films of a live action tv show. She was a perfect character for Hollywood to adapt and they never did. Perhaps it's better if they don't try because they can't create compelling, believable female characters anymore.
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
Well said 🙂 And yeah, I would love the idea of a Fantaghiro remake, but it would have to be made by someone who genuinely wants to tell a good story, without the temptation to insert preachy politics into it. And I would still want them to be true to the original series in some aspects that were great about the original.
@m.l.1320
@m.l.1320 2 ай бұрын
@@FolkWalkCZ i would like a remake too. but i never really understand the film with the vegetebales .in prior films she fights for her family and loved ones .but in this she goes never back to her familiy and begins a new life with a new lover. but her husband from the other movies was still alive, if i remember correctly.
@NERDINSPALLA
@NERDINSPALLA 2 ай бұрын
It wasn't Christmas without Fantaghirò on television in Italy. That's why, during my first trip to the Czech Republic, I wanted to visit the beautiful Bouzov Castle, and I continue to return almost every year!
@Wighafoc
@Wighafoc 2 ай бұрын
I'll definitely watch through a nice classic fantasy series.
@aleksandarspasic6067
@aleksandarspasic6067 2 ай бұрын
I watched animated series growing up in Serbia 20 years ago. It was great, each episode brought something new. The intro song is still playing in my head.
@Nina-hl5qk
@Nina-hl5qk 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for throwing this out there ❤
@angelika9396
@angelika9396 2 ай бұрын
I loved this so much. I clicked because I recognized her face. 🥰
@simorote
@simorote 2 ай бұрын
I didn't know Fantaghirò was known outside of Italy. I recommend everyone checks it out with their kids or young siblings. ❤
@PPfilmemacher
@PPfilmemacher 2 ай бұрын
I have the dvd-box and every now and then i watch the entire series (even the bad last story with the wooden doll villain)
@eseetoh
@eseetoh 2 ай бұрын
OMG this looks so familiar!! Did i watch an English dubbed version of this in my youth? Tks for reminding us of this!! ❤
@the1band1wagon
@the1band1wagon 2 ай бұрын
New movies to watch and new cosplay goals. What a great start to the day.
@the1band1wagon
@the1band1wagon 2 ай бұрын
OH MY GOSH I JUST WATCHED PART ONE AND IT WAS SO FUN! The extending beard as he lists all the things she must promise, trying to vent her frustration on things but then they're all sentient, I don't know why but I loved the goose so much!
@elizaj4431
@elizaj4431 2 ай бұрын
I think this so often happens, society has a shift and there's a course change. I feel like in the 90s this had happened for women's roles and also although to lesser degree but definetely moving so for gay people. It was more organic and balanced. Then people were digging it and feeling rewarded and it became a flooded market eventually flogging a dead horse and overreacting to milk the movement to a no longer positive but rather destructive degree. I think this pretty much encompasses much of the state of current social justice movements. Historically there is a tendency for the oppressed to become oppressors if they get an upper hand.
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
@@elizaj4431 Yeah, I agree with everything you said.
@danielaf1487
@danielaf1487 2 ай бұрын
As an Italian woman who has always considered herself a feminist (meaning an advocate for the equality of the sexes), I'm delighted to hear that Fantaghirò was appreciated and known in Eastern Europe, which I had no idea of! I'm reading the comments here and discovering that Poles, Russians and Czechs all appreciated this character, brought to life by the lovely Alessandra Martines! I always thought these films, that are broadcast around Christmas time in Italy, were not known at all outside of Italy. All the things you listed that are wrong with contemporary "strong" female characters, are totally wrong, and tenfold, about the Galadriel character in The Rings of Power series. I was so looking forward to that spin-off a few years ago, but was very much put off by yet another ridiculously one-dimensional "strong female character" who makes you want to root for the villain. I honestly did not expect perfection (I'm not a Lord of the Rings purist) but I cannot believe what has been done to the fascinating character of Galadriel in that extremely disappointing series! I think the public wants to see the humanity in their character, regardless of gender. A strong MALE character is therefore a man who is also vulnerable at times, who isn't ashamed to show weakness or fear, but will try their best regardless, facing that fear, and summoning their strength even while feeling weaker. And a strong FEMALE character is no different! What these current "strong female characters" are achieving, is to emulate toxic masculinity. A "strong" woman who never shows any vulnerability or imperfection, is exactly what toxic males aspire to be. So why would the liberation of women be achieved by copying all the worst traits of toxic men? It will only make women more toxic, too.
@endlessstudent3512
@endlessstudent3512 2 ай бұрын
It was very successfull in western Europe also, Germany and Netherlands for example. I grew up with it and she was a role model for me. A girl who knew what she wanted and was ready to fight for it and go a different way. She managed to do all she wanted and still love with all her heart. I wish they would make more characters like that. Though not all of the modern women are badly done. The Fallout series or Pokerface series are both very good with really cool female leads. They do them better in TV compared to movies, especially disney and amazon produce the downright anti-women stuff...because the women in them are so unlikable that they damage feminism.
@danielaf1487
@danielaf1487 2 ай бұрын
@@endlessstudent3512 - Thanks for the recommendations - I'm just about to start picking the new series I want to watch, now that autumn is back. I completely agree with you, these horribly written, formulaic "strong" women are giving feminism a bad name. Maybe people who are 30 or older have more cultural context to understand this, but I feel for today's teenagers, though I trust they're intelligent enough to find their way towards better role models than Amazon's Galadriel or the most recent Velma (remember that attempt to destroy Scooby Doo for all its fans?).
@osarkthegoat7038
@osarkthegoat7038 2 ай бұрын
i could go on and on about Galadriel . they acually depowered galadriel for ROP. she's one of three charecters ever to have "unamde the foundations of a fortress" but my biggest grip with modern strong female characters is that, being so naturally superior, they never have to struggle or actually prove they have any inner strength.
@gloriathomas3245
@gloriathomas3245 2 ай бұрын
@@danielaf1487 so you're basically saying that a character like Buffy The Vampire Slayer is problematic to you then?
@AgagaSnsns
@AgagaSnsns 2 ай бұрын
​@@gloriathomas3245 Since when did Buffy show no vulnerability or no imperfections? Have you actually watched it? Buffy has plenty of imperfections and she's often showed as extremely vulnerable (the Master arc is just one example). She gets humbled pretty hard due to her wrong choices (in the Angel arc, for example), and she goes through a tremendous growth as a character.
@mashinigun
@mashinigun 2 ай бұрын
thank you so much for the links boss!! this is a really great video and proper homage to a classic that doesnt deserve to remain in the shadows
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
No problem 😉
@TheRCvie
@TheRCvie 2 ай бұрын
Only watched one Fantaghiro movie as a kid, didn't know there were more. Saw it on Aussie tv a couple times, named some of my game characters Fantaghiro too.
@Zontar82
@Zontar82 2 ай бұрын
as an italian I am actually proud that fantaghirò is famouse outside Italy and seens as a proper strong female rather than the crap that's on tv nowadays
@fablucia
@fablucia 2 ай бұрын
Fantaghiro!!! A whole part of my childhood was just unlocked
@jojoton4eva
@jojoton4eva 2 ай бұрын
The Fantaghiro movies were some of my favourites when I was a kid in the 90s, especially the first one! Those and Desideria and The Dragon Ring :)
@hammad9091
@hammad9091 2 ай бұрын
Always happy to see another video here.
@pageandmic
@pageandmic 2 ай бұрын
I'm from Germany and I love Fantaghiro. As a child we even had the VHS cassette box at home. Apart from Pocahontas I was never interested in Disney, but always Fantaghiro💕 I just love the vibe and fairy tale world, the music, costumes and story, even though as a child I was really scared of the captain from the last two parts because I really thought he was a wooden doll that would then be eaten by the woodworms😯😦 But I thought the last two parts were stupid anyway because she didn't go back to Romualdo and her family. Oh and I was also a bit scared of Tarabas' army as a child😅 Sigh, Tarabas was great. But nonetheless she is and will remain my favorite princess and a big part of my childhood😊
@patrickkelmer6290
@patrickkelmer6290 2 ай бұрын
The Fantaghiro series were my introduction to Brigitte Nielsen
@MicahHarris-k9m
@MicahHarris-k9m 2 ай бұрын
Thanx for this! Yes, please do something on The Dragon Ring and any other TV/movies that would be new to a lot of people, even if these have been around for decades. I just subscribed! :)
@melodies_are_alive
@melodies_are_alive 2 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis and a great trip down memory-lane! I very much enjoyed watching Fantaghiro back in the day. The story was richly imaginative, the characters likable (that talking rock was so original!) and having genuine individuality - and of course Alessandra Martines nailed the lead role. The first 3 films were superb, but alas after that the story seemed to trail off completely. One of my favourite characters was Tarabas and his journey from antagonist to protagonist. It was only much later that I discovered that the word 'Fantaghiro' means capable, ambitious, and resourceful. It was super that you put the original soundtrack in the background of the video - I actually learnt to play it on the piano back in the day (and still to this day), it's just SO good! Thank you not only for the upload - but also for providing the links to the Italian version. It's going to be a VERY interesting thing to rewatch this series as a grumpy old bear that I am now. Oh, and I hope beyond hope they DON'T do a remake - nothing can compare to the original. That was the Magic of the early 90's!
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment ❤️
@ShairaDarkmoon
@ShairaDarkmoon 2 ай бұрын
I know i saw it as a child, but remember only two things- that it was awesome and one death by something like a set of 3 giant sets of metalic jaws(if it was even from the show). Should really give it a watch again. It´s been at least 20 years.
@iy8-z1o
@iy8-z1o 2 ай бұрын
Some strong female characters for the next time someone says "tHe OnLy StRoNg FeMaLe cHaRaCtErS u KnOw iS RiPlEy FrOm AlIEn!!!1!": Fantaghiro, Wade Wells, Ayrin Soong, Kira Nerheys, Jadzia Dax, Tasha Yar, Capt. Janeway, TPol, Xena the Warrior Princess, Princess Leia, Padme, Myka Bering, Claudia Donovan, Watts, Pepper pots (pre MCU phase 4), black widow (pre MCU phase 4), and a bunch more that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head
@larrykelly-kf5pp
@larrykelly-kf5pp 2 ай бұрын
Korra, the Legend of Korra
@pendragon0905
@pendragon0905 2 ай бұрын
Toph Beifong, Katara, Suki, and Azula
@yezzariael965
@yezzariael965 2 ай бұрын
Fantaghiro was my hero as a child - alnog with Alana of Trebond of the Lioness book-series Tamora Pierce wrote.
@jacekraniowski3891
@jacekraniowski3891 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this classic tale :)
@martulaznik
@martulaznik 2 ай бұрын
I loved it as a kid. ❤
@Lylantares
@Lylantares 2 ай бұрын
One of my childhood's favourite shows. I just claimed that episodes 9&10 did not exist. She'd never leave Romualdo behind for some random swashbuckler.
@gobihoukou1
@gobihoukou1 2 ай бұрын
Same here. Fantagiro only had 3 seasons, and that is the end of discussion :)
@0deadx21
@0deadx21 2 ай бұрын
I remember both live-action and animated Fantagiro.
@Peter2k84
@Peter2k84 2 ай бұрын
Dang, loved this show
@johntheknight3062
@johntheknight3062 2 ай бұрын
The character is only as smart as the writer. The same goes for morals and everything else. These new "strong female lead" characters are written by incompetent, evil and obnoxious people so obviously it reflects in their character as well.
@Blorenzo129
@Blorenzo129 2 ай бұрын
Fantaghiro is the best female character ! I watched this serie every year when it passed on tv on chrismas hollidays, almways made sense to me women colud be as badass as men. Thanks for talking about it !
@bloodrosereaper2099
@bloodrosereaper2099 2 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely curious as to how long it's gonna take Hollywood to give us well written strong females that have more expression and life than "lifeless husk of decaying wood" we've gotten a dozen times over now.
@NoMoreNever
@NoMoreNever 2 ай бұрын
A character without any perceived weaknesses or flaws does not equate to said character being "strong" which is what these modern writers get wrong, that just makes them flat and lacking any depth and no reason why the audience should become invested in the first place. I have never heard of Fantaghiro but just from your description alone and the clips in this video she already seems like a character I can root for.
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
Good point 🙂
@Zerel
@Zerel 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for introducing me to such an interesting story.
@rpgadventurer32
@rpgadventurer32 2 ай бұрын
You can watch the series on KZbin with English subs.
@jeshus_deus_est
@jeshus_deus_est 2 ай бұрын
I ve also watched the most of the movies in my childhood😂
@fabriziopedani5315
@fabriziopedani5315 2 ай бұрын
As an italian who was a kid in 80's and 90's i've seen much of it. General consensus they were enjoyable tv movies but they also were those cringy local production they aired every year around xmas holiday to cover the long afternoon hours along old cheap to air movies, and so were half a dozen derivative production like the above mentioned Princess Desidera, an actually decent sudo-fantasy prirate serie with that actor who played Tarabas in Fantaghiro, and so on
@Animiel1
@Animiel1 2 ай бұрын
Sono d'accordo con Virokka, saluti da Filkarion
@fabriziopedani5315
@fabriziopedani5315 2 ай бұрын
@@Animiel1 Piacere di sentirti!
@luna-hw9li
@luna-hw9li 2 ай бұрын
I have seen these movies as a kid and I really enjoyed them. It was really a wonderful cross-over between fairy tales and legit fantasy for kids who are not quite old enough for something like LOTD. Fantaghiro also seemed like a wonderful, relatable heroine. I think it was also one of the great occasions where this female hero can be quite relatable even to boys, because when you are a young boy you often hear things like "you are not old enough. you are not allowed to do this or that. you have to behave like this or that.". So Fantaghiro is not allowed to do a bunch of things, does them anyway, and she struggles to succeed. That's a good story that kids can enjoy and understand even when they are not activist feminists ;-)
@christiansorensen7567
@christiansorensen7567 2 ай бұрын
Nice! I wasn't aware of this series, and I've been to Český Krumlov.
@SwordOfJustice2007
@SwordOfJustice2007 2 ай бұрын
Wow. I'm going to watch it!
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
Enjoy 😉
@kalavi-knightlygaming
@kalavi-knightlygaming 2 ай бұрын
This name, I swear I remember it from ages ago a old animation Plus that one rock who always wanted to fight
@spikeee07
@spikeee07 2 ай бұрын
Great video, as always, thank you! 🙂 If I get it right, they (modern media) often try to justify their choices in the name of "representation", which is just a cheap explanation for pushing their views. The way they portray their female characters almost makes me ashamed for being a woman. I think anybody could relate to any character if they choose to, no matter the physical attributes. As you mentioned, stories are great for gaining new perspectives. I enjoyed playing such games that had a preset male character (like GTA, Gothic, the Witcher etc) just as much as the others where you could choose or create your own. Thanks for the series recommendation as well, haven't heard of it before. Will definitely check it out. Aldo when I think about "badass female character" Buffy comes to mind and maybe the witches from Charmed. Sorry if I didn't make much sense, my English is rusty and I tend to ramble 🙂 Greetings from Hungary
@candicemceady308
@candicemceady308 2 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! I'm a girl myself and completely agree!!! I like strong female characters when they go through trail and error just like guys do. Anime and manga does it and don't forget to give the girl characters love interest male love interests which is absolutely adorable nothing wrong with that.
@spikeee07
@spikeee07 2 ай бұрын
@@candicemceady308Yeah, it is so disappointing what happened to male characters in western media. At best they are completely sidelined, at worst they are made out to be fools to mock. It may sound clishé, but we need both sides, some kind of balance. I think those who had a job at a workplace made up mostly/all female coworkers can relate, but maybe I just had a bad experience, twice.
@marette2845
@marette2845 13 күн бұрын
I'm french and I also grew up with the Cave of the Golden Rose, I was an addict of the series! 90's European kids all united under Fantaghirò's banner ✊
@davidb7292
@davidb7292 2 ай бұрын
Good video. Cheers!
@elvensteen1
@elvensteen1 2 ай бұрын
In the USA the movie was called "The cave of the Golden Rose" if i recall right.
@jindrariley1824
@jindrariley1824 2 ай бұрын
Yes please! Tell us about more underrated stories! 😊 I really enjoyed this video, as my mum always liked Fantagiro and I grew up watching the animated one - it was pretty good in my oppinion - although I don't remember much from it. (That Mandrake character and the wise catfish stuck with me, for some reason 😊) ah...nostalgia
@alexhulea2735
@alexhulea2735 2 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD!!!! i never managed to see the first seasons in full..... from the start all the way to the end of the Nekrad story arc..... gonna start looking for them now
@patiencebear
@patiencebear 2 ай бұрын
I watched those movies as a kid. I don't remember much, tbh, except the feeling of an underlying sadness.
@chipcook5346
@chipcook5346 2 ай бұрын
Any woman who believes that women have to control their anger all of the time, but somehow men never have to, is at least as shallow as the men she imagines. Actually worse because not only does she not understand men, she does not get most women, those who aren't angry and resentful all the time.
@stillbuyvhs
@stillbuyvhs 2 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear you talk about "The Dragon Ring," & other fantasy series.
@FrankJonen
@FrankJonen 2 ай бұрын
Back when story mattered.
@immortaljanus
@immortaljanus 2 ай бұрын
That main actress looks like a British actress I remember from a few movies. Prince of Persia was one of them.
@6Kubik
@6Kubik 2 ай бұрын
I loved the movies as a kid and watched them with my mom.
@yashik
@yashik 2 ай бұрын
I loved and still love Fantaghiro until this day, such a great rich fantasy story also her character was so lovely I remember I was only on elementary school, it wasn't like easy to get information like nowdays on internet but ... i was looking up and reading magazines to learn how it was made and from what country this actress was from... good old times collecting those magazine pages :D hehehe from those old days I also liked Three Wishes for Cinderella which is timeless, Dempsey & Makepeace damn every sunday I've been recording that show on video tape.. and let's don't forget first series of princess Arabela... but nowdays when Disney makes movies none of those modern woke characters are likable
@kregorovillupo3625
@kregorovillupo3625 2 ай бұрын
I didn't knew this (very B) TV show made it out of italy. I was teen in the '90s, and my female classmates couldn't just shut up about it xD I watched only the first, proposed in a movie format, than lost interest because kind of meh. But still, yeh, you're right: a good example of girl empowerment done right. If I can quote Q on Jeneway, "You are a strong authority figure without infringing on your stunning femininity", or something like that, I watch it in italian.
@KellyDuggan-q6q
@KellyDuggan-q6q 2 ай бұрын
Because, they didn’t have DEI activitists around
@badfoody
@badfoody 2 ай бұрын
They dropped the ball with Rei really She could have been great
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 2 ай бұрын
It's hilarious when they compare her with Luke to say "they are the same". Have you ever seen the movies? Luke fails and needs help repeatedly. He had to be saved two times in the battle of Yavin, then again at the start of The Empire Strikes Back, is shot down in the battle of Hoth, fails his Jedi training, fails to defeat Vader and has to be saved again... He doesn't even decide the outcome of the Battle of Endor. Are Lando Calrissian and Wedge Antilles that destroy the Death Star.
@finezyjnafantazja2495
@finezyjnafantazja2495 2 ай бұрын
​@@neutronalchemist3241MatPat made a theory that she is a reincarnation of Palpatine. Because yes she is that evil
@peka__
@peka__ 2 ай бұрын
Where I live the series was pretty popular in the Goth scene in the 90s. First all girls had a crush on Romulado - until Tarabas entered the scene.
@Mielikkiii
@Mielikkiii 2 ай бұрын
I always say that while younger kids had their teams vampire vs team werewolf, we had very strong debates about team Romualdo vs team Tarabas
@TheTimeshadows
@TheTimeshadows 2 ай бұрын
Please do make the second video; the one about the other series. Thanks.
@barrankobama4840
@barrankobama4840 2 ай бұрын
Fantaghiro` 😍
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 2 ай бұрын
No man would reject the idea of going isekai'd and being reborn as Romuald just to earn Fantagirof's hand.
@rumpelstilzz
@rumpelstilzz 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for reminding me of this series. As a kid I watched like 2 or 3 of the movies but never the whole thing. Sadly the links you put up are blocked in my country...
@FolkWalkCZ
@FolkWalkCZ 2 ай бұрын
Try VPN or maybe find a version that's in your native language if it exists.
@comentedonakeyboard
@comentedonakeyboard 2 ай бұрын
Modern strong, female characters aint bad characters, they aint characters at all. The writers obviously dont bother to write well and just want to celebrate themselfs for their "activism". (The same applies to diverse or whatever else)
@jonathanmyers2867
@jonathanmyers2867 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Alessandra Martines is looking very beautiful and gorgeous! 😍😍😍😍❤❤❤❤
@floodgates182
@floodgates182 2 ай бұрын
Fantaghiro was simply charming.
@Antonio_DG
@Antonio_DG 2 ай бұрын
Per precisione, Fantaghirò non è una creazione originale di Italo Calvino, fu messo su carta da altri due autori prima di lui, Gherardo Nerucci, Vittorio Imbriani, addirittura già nel 1880, ma in realtà la storia è antecedente, si tratta di una fiaba popolare italiana. Poi è vero, nella serie è stato creato un personaggio complesso e non piatto come invece fa il cinema hollywoodiano, il cartone è stato prodotto in spagnolo. Probabilmente la fiaba ha influito in un libro di Calvino, "Il cavaliere inesistente" di genere fantastico, dove c'è una donna guerriero, Bramante.
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 2 ай бұрын
Bradamante. La quale viene dritta dall'Orlando Furioso dell'Ariosto.
@Antonio_DG
@Antonio_DG 2 ай бұрын
@@neutronalchemist3241 Certo visto che si parla dei paladini di Francia dei poemi cavallereschi, ma l'impatto sull'autore arriva dalla fiaba che letta o ascoltata da piccolo influisce sulle sue suggestioni e non quanto letto durante l'adolescenza, non chiedo di capire una meccanica cognitiva e formativa.
@isilfelagund
@isilfelagund 2 ай бұрын
First of all! I love Fantaghiro, she's called Fantagaro in French, and the series used to be on TV around christmas, during the holidays, when I was a kid :D I always watched it, because I too, craved anything fantasy on screen. Years later, friends gifted me the complete dvd series. And I still love it very much, in my mind in clonfates with the swashbuckler movies with Jean Marais I watched as a kid too and still do because they're awsome. I was delightfully surprised to see a Fantaghiro video opening up youtube. As for what you are describing as the strong female character type, I agree with another comment on this video : these are how hollywood think is a good female characters, and it's just tropes, lazy writing, for money (especially the marvel shot of all their female characters when they are barely on screen the rest of the movie, never interacted with each other and are just dolls (like some of the males ones) to move around). These female characters are one dimensional, with no further thoughts put into them, beside marketing an money. The saddest thing about she-hulk, was that the actress played the main characters in Orphan Black, another tv series, and she was very good in it, portraying so many different women, that felt all real. Fantaghiro learning to be humble and to ask for forgiveness, doesn't negate her strength, because we know about it as an audience, we saw how she evolved and what she went through. I think that it's also the lack of diversity and variation, as well as the lack of a well written journey, in the portrayal of strong women characters, that makes it so annoying and/or disappointing.
@candide1065
@candide1065 2 ай бұрын
Orange is the new black is a very woke show that portraits women as super strong lesbians or freaks. You also forgot to mention that it's feminist who writes these one-sided characters and it's not just hollywood but you can see that in many european or canadian shows.
@isilfelagund
@isilfelagund 2 ай бұрын
@@candide1065 ??? I didn't forget to mention anything, because I just wrote my opinion. And you wrote yours, nothing to do with mine. I never mentionned Orange is the New Black but Orphan Black. Not the same series at all. And I don't think feminism has anything to do with those characters, rather maybe, the idea hollywood has of feminism, and as I said, it all comes down to money, it's the use of lazy writing and big tropes just for an easy way to making more money with shallow ideas and no depth, with pretty visuals to make it all more appealing.
@candide1065
@candide1065 2 ай бұрын
@@isilfelagund The one single thing you're correct about is that I misread something as "Orange is the new black" since I was almost sure that one character from the show was also involved in "She Hulk". Other that that, I didn't write an opinion but a fact, speak for yourself when it comes to opinions. It's obvious that you are biased and deflect any (negative) responsibility of feminism but if you really deny that modern movies are far more feminist and far more often written by feminists, there is no need for any further discussion since that would be gaslighting basically.
@isilfelagund
@isilfelagund 2 ай бұрын
@@candide1065 And from that misread you went and said that feminism is the source of these badly written characters, when I was talking how sad I found that the actress who portrayed complex characters in Oprhan Black was reduced to play the same strong woman trope Marvel pushes in their movies/series, while simultaneously making nothing of them... but bad clichés. I said I disagree with you, that to me, it all comes down to appeal to certain parts of an audience with bad tropes as an easy way to make money. Feminism has nothing to do with it for me, especially when it comes to big budget tv or films. It's all marketing. So yes, i did speak for myself saying it was my opinion and you wrote yours. Because it is an opinion, not a fact. Who are those feminist your are talking about? Producers and writers are mainly men in Hollywood, are they all a majority of feminist ? I doubt it. Beside, what is feminism ? Because if, to you if it's spreading the trope of strong violent women hating on men on screen, what kind of feminism is that ? Those writing this kind of characters aren't feminist, on the contrary it's a disservice to women because they are missing the point, which to me, is to write female and male character equally, portraying them as human, complex with flaws and qualities.
@rpgadventurer32
@rpgadventurer32 2 ай бұрын
It's not just that. They are portraying women in an unrealistic way that goes to extremes that can't be ignored by viewers. Women should be portrayed as women, not as men in dresses, it dosen't work. Hollywood only find value in masculine traits and have tried to erase all feminine traits from their modern day female characters.
@chipjohnson9283
@chipjohnson9283 2 ай бұрын
The only person in this world who can not be helped; is the one who refuses to be.
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