FARMING SIMULATOR 25 | START FROM SCRATCH | Episode 4

[@JohnPaul-xi4dz]

I appreciate the work you put in to your videos. I like the commentary and pacing. It's very chill to watch. The more popular channels play weird music and speed up almost as soon as field work begins. I understand as a content creator you cant show everything but really like how you do it simply skip forward no music or 10x speed that I hate watching. Thanks for the quality videos!

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

I find that other style of video hard to watch, I will skip the music sections, so I stopped including them in my own content a long time ago. My approach now is to make a video I would watch, and that way I find an audience usually that has similar tastes.

[@Farmer-Mike]

I really enjoy to see your content sir. Nice and relaxing to watch, good to see the way are doing things.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Thanks Mike. Hope you're enjoying the game

[@jamesflack5283]

I am indeed enjoying your dulcet tones while playing FS25. Nice video again

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Thanks

[@StephenSlemmonds]

Excellent video, thanks. I always overlook bees. Must remember to add some. I've always used the GPS mod which requires you to spend £15k per vehicle you want it on and that's how I am happy to put it on something that maybe wouldn't have been possible irl.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Thanks, and me too but they seem a cheap option at this point. I always thought 15K was too much having seen some real life youtubers do it for less, but I think free in certain styles of game play isn't right

[@CrankyAnt]

You said discuss! so my take on GPS is that it can literally be retrofitted to any vehicle IRL, even when its 100 years old. To add realism you can make a case to pay for it, 15-40k depending on the value of money in FS25 (i have a feeling its a bit more reasonable this time). I think real farmers would do it whenever they can, cause thats economically the right choice, saves you doing double work or skipping pieces which would result in less yield, but im not a farmer so I base this on logic, not knowledge. You still have the option to not use it, like you did now at some point, for players who like that aspect of the game. Even with GPS however you still have to grind your way through bigger fields with a 3 meter vegetable harvester lol ;)

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Yeah, I think my point is it feels lazy to use it on all the old kit with no cost of installing it. Just my view and partly something to discuss :)

[@neilharbott8394]

I've never really considered Soy Beans to be a "profitable" crop, sure it's a high value crop, but it's very low yield, so it averages pretty much the same value as most other cereal crops in game. The only significant benefit, is that low yield/density, means you don't have to empty a harvester very frequently, and you don't need to take as many trips to the wholesaler. I would usually suggest Sugar Beets as a good value crop, though the high yield, low value, makes it labor intensive to harvest. It used to be among the best per acre income. But checking the FS25 store, we've lost our cheap tractor hauled harvest solution, the replacement now needing 280hp tractor, and the defoliator needs 180hp (can't run it on a MF5S anymore). I also noticed that we've lost the Sugar Cane tractor hauled harvester. The only non-cereal harvesters we now have with reasonable tractor hauled HP requirements is the carrot/red onion/parsnip option, and since they weren't precision farming friendly, I never really investigated how profitable they were! Outside of field crops, there's the grape & olive options, at least those harvesters aren't 1/2Million to buy, but again they're aggravating to use, and I don't know their relative profit. The new farmer seems to be limited to the basic crops, OR being a super specialist of one crop type, until they build up a working capital... and many more fields (to justify the outlay on a 1/2Million Harvester!).

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Based on data soybeans is one of the most profitable combinable crops, and I wanted crops that could all be harvested with a combine.

[@Dharkhand2]

I was torn on using GPS in FS22. I've seen older equipment fitted with steering assist that isn't so much GPS but hit helps hold a heading so it's definitely possible. It would be easier not using it if the graphics aligned better with what's actually happening in the field. For instance, I noticed quite a few times while harvesting in FS 22 where the foliage would be removed from the field but yet the map would show an unharvested strip of crop.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

I think these days you can fit after market GPS to everything, my rambling was partly from a content point of view it almost felt it might be boring watching me just constantly switch GPS on and off along with it being too easy. And yeah that is annoying, that was what happened in the bean contract.

[@jacobl1657]

I used VCA on everything in 22, so I don’t think it’s an issue. It would’ve been cooler to see gps as a buyable option in the store, but either way I don’t think most will be worried about it.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

oh for most it won't be an issue, but that has never been something that's guided my rambling or my content ;)

[@neilharbott8394]

I've seen some smaller US youtube farmers use GPS screens on a self-contained GPS monitor - it's definitely NOT Guidance Steering though. They use it to make more efficient coverage of fertilizer, and other consumables.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Yup, plenty of after market options that can be brought to retro fit capability that old vehicle don't have as standard

[@Lastbreath95]

Lovely vids. Keep it up. It would have been cheaper to lease the harvester via the contract. You could have done your own fields with it too.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

you can't use contract equipment on your own fields.

[@smockfarmer]

No, yes and yes. Aftermarket guidance :)

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

I don't remember the questions but free aftermarket guidance sounds good for farmers everywhere

[@smockfarmer]

@ maybe not free but a 1000 usd/euro/pound cost just to keep a bit realistic

[@SomeYouTubeGuy]

1 thing I wanted to test when I got the game was if fert state showed on the mini map or not. You will remember that previously that was only a precision farming feature. Well it doesn't so that makes manually driving fields especially a field like mine that has tall corn growing in it very difficult and I'm lazy so I don't care if it's not realistic I'm going to use GPS to make my life easier.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

yeah, we have to wait for PF to get that back.

[@peterclarke3300]

Great episode D/S and with GPS Trimble fits anything i think,and they put it on older equipment to make it sell easier that’s a good excuse for you 👏👏👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Not so much needing an excuse, I know you can fit GPS to anything. More that I realized it was taking some of the enjoyment out of driving kit.

[@neilharbott8394]

Back in FS22 it became evident that leasing a harvester for the first few years was a plan... but never use it for harvesting contracts - the lease payments exceed the harvest payment and bonus by a large margin.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

I think it's probably different if you've already leased it to harvest your own fields.

[@neilharbott8394]

@@DisTurbedSimulations Only if you don't do too many, keep under the hourly tick over. That hourly cost can completely fubar your planned income if you're not careful. If it's got an engine it might not be worth using it in a contract.

[@jamesflack5283]

Regarding GPS, in FS22 I always start from scratch and at the beginning I can't afford GPS so I don't use it. 1st year on TLP has had no vehicles with GPS apart from the rented ones for contract. When I have enough money I'll buy a combine/tractor with GPS

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

That is kind of how I like to do things most of the time.

[@jamesflack5283]

@DisTurbedSimulations It adds to the start from scratch feel with having limited funds I feel

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Yup and the feeling of progress

[@SP-1976]

I played this map in FS22 and again in FS25, it feels a little bit bigger this time. There is one thing missing and that’s a Mini BGA by a certain modder/content creator 🤔. Great video as always.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Sadly I suspect that may stay missing. but glad you enjoyed the video

[@Maktumekal_Ilzrei]

I see the steering assist like I do the workers. If you want to use them, they are there, but many will certainly choose not to. Could it be a customization option to add some more realism? 100% that will be a mod, but giants is aiming for the casual, not necessarily the folks that play Terralife. Also the argument to be made the steering assist is a gameplay tool for helping keyboard players to have a less tedious time replicating what someone with a steering wheel can do rather easily and comfortably. Though I see this argument holding less water than the first.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

All valid points, except the last one (I play on keyboard 99.9% of the time ;) )

[@rubbybobinson3543]

You don’t need to use the GPS if you don’t want to. I don’t think it is a big hit to “realism” with such a small amount of inexpensive equipment available at this point.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Yeah, was just me rambling a way. And wondering if it gets boring to watch vs my epic driving skills

[@robertbyleveld4612]

Scroft has a great spreadsheet video if you want to look at someone elses work

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Yup, talk about it in video 5 ;)

[@WanderingLethe]

What's wrong with the grass rendering at @44:22 ? Looks like the under foliage is missing or something.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

yup it does.

[@linuvwen]

im pretty sure that tractor isnew enough to have gps

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

The tractor yes, the old massey combine?

[@linuvwen]

@@DisTurbedSimulations yes the combine, i mean gps is been around for a awhile now i dont know what year that combine was

[@edthered26]

Dont mention the shed... is that the equivalent of don't mention the war from fawlty towers?

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Something like that ;)

[@andikrasniqi9411]

just thinking out loud, would it of been better to accept a contract and lease their equipment and use it for your sorghum since leasing fees on contracts is only like 1k for the lot harvester, header tractor trailer instead of leasing direct and paying 5k just for the harvester?

[@Katastra_]

Pretty sure you can't use contact equipment on your own field

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

You can't do that. contract equipment is only for contracts.. well you could use the tractors, possibly the trailer, and maybe if you leased a separate header. But in this style of lets play it's not about being that cheaty

[@craigkirkpatrick8112]

Rl can buy and fit gps to anything so its not so much an if i should its more a how accurate do i even want my old kit to be accuracy saves money

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

@craigkirkpatrick8112 yup, but it costs to buy and fit it was my point

[@craigkirkpatrick8112]

@@DisTurbedSimulationsyeah 100%

[@jobbi2k]

Don't see the reason why the game needs to force you to play one way or the other. Rather then you play realistically or not.. I think too many are putting there way off playing as a must play so the game needs to be blocking some abilities off paly.. I don't mind if i can do some unrealistic things in thiss game.. i like the ability to make the choice my self rather then the game.. 😁

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Totally, you can play however you want.

[@Flywithcraig]

I do see your point, I've been a flight simmer for 20 years and we dont have things like this within the sim to aid us as much as FS25. I have never played FS25 but I've done no flying since it came out, put it that way lol