Fat Joe Tells Jim Jones Why Big L Went After Mase In Harlem | 2020

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During a recent Instagram Live Stream, Fat Joe sat down with the "We Fly High" Hitmaker Jim Jones! In this live stream, Fat Joe explained why Big L went at Mase In Harlem New York! Jim Jones also speaks on why Cam'ron had beef with Mase.
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@anwarmangum7673
@anwarmangum7673 2 жыл бұрын
Okay but Mase taught Jim how to rap and introduced Cam to BIG which led to Cam's first record deal. That's worth a lot more than they are giving Mase credit for.
@jaybeswick9062
@jaybeswick9062 Жыл бұрын
Yea but mase ain't from nyc or New York so you are supposed to look out for those that protect you and look out for you etc ! People thought mase was from Harlem he from Georgia you see him put anybody from Georgia or even talk about Georgia ? He sold nyc cause that was before Georgia became a hip hop mecca now u got mad cats from Georgia who do tracks with nyc but not mase think about that you from new york and Georgia and nobody f**KS with you from either state 💯 that's on your character not on anybody else 🤔
@therealliveguy
@therealliveguy Жыл бұрын
Teaching how to fish is much more valuable than handing out fish. Takes wisdom to understand.
@wilsonfisk4741
@wilsonfisk4741 9 ай бұрын
It was cam who thought Jim Jones to rap and big l and herb mcgruff black Rob help cam bloodhed mase etc how to tighten the writing skills and points and tips on developing there flow big facts
@freshrich736
@freshrich736 6 ай бұрын
​@@wilsonfisk4741mase taught Jones how to Rap and he came up with the name diplomats too
@wilsonfisk4741
@wilsonfisk4741 6 ай бұрын
@freshrich736 no it was cam and blood shed who taught jim and mase came up with harlem world with cam cam come up with diplomats thus harlem world diplomats a combination of sorts and the reason they both have harlem world tattooed on there arms none the less
@dollaman2745
@dollaman2745 3 ай бұрын
Who else is here after made told this story on “ it is what it is “ ?
@themollymachine
@themollymachine 3 ай бұрын
yup... yo why is jim hating so much
@marcusw7117
@marcusw7117 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@liverightgetmoneyent
@liverightgetmoneyent 3 ай бұрын
YUP 😂😂
@SeymourCoochie92
@SeymourCoochie92 3 ай бұрын
Facts 😭
@MegaSilvabak
@MegaSilvabak 3 ай бұрын
Meeeeee..lol
@kno2much597
@kno2much597 2 жыл бұрын
Mase said "give me the catalog I'll show you how daddy ball"
@johanmassy5290
@johanmassy5290 2 жыл бұрын
He was smart for as you put it "Mase never trusted me (Fat Joe) again". If not for the Harlem love Big L. (R.I.P.) & Mase had this story may have concluded violently. Truth is many in Harlem & NYC were hating on how Mase fan base blew up + the fact he was embraced by Puffy, Biggie LOX & R.I.P. Darkman X!
@brandonlujoso7447
@brandonlujoso7447 2 жыл бұрын
Nah that’s not the truth, the truth is Mase did a lot of sucka shii in Harlem… I’m from Harlem so I know the bs he was did
@lward528
@lward528 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlujoso7447 A WHOLE lotta sucka shit. R.I.P. Baby Maine & Pop Lotti.
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlujoso7447 All I heard him do was sleep with his godson's mother(Maine's BM),Jimmy and Cam referenced a book he wrote and sign Harlem World to a bad deal...other than that what did he do?
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt 2 жыл бұрын
@@lward528 wait but I thought Maine and Lotti crews had beef before Mase slept with Maine's girl
@lward528
@lward528 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtraversodt Mase pitted the 2 against each other, after he violated & put that song out. He shoulda stayed in his rapper lane, especially knowing he ain't gon bust a grape in a fruit fight.
@robertjackson8835
@robertjackson8835 2 жыл бұрын
Rip Big L
@StuLenS_Gaming
@StuLenS_Gaming Жыл бұрын
So Mase was the „Chief Keef“ of Harlem back then 🤣
@ericatkinson2752
@ericatkinson2752 3 ай бұрын
Jim took the convo on some clown s×××
@qs721
@qs721 2 ай бұрын
Jim really hates Mase. Jealous of his relationship with Cam too.
@MarcPlaysDrums
@MarcPlaysDrums 2 ай бұрын
Jim hating on Mase. Cam said Mase was outside before Cam. Jim was know for being good with hands but not for hustling. Also, Mase put Cam on who put Jimmy on…what more could they ask from him? I like Jim but he be hating a lot. That’s kinda why Cam doesn’t rock with him but he rocks with Mase, cuz Mase is about the bag. Why you think he still getting money with Cam and Jimmy ain’t? Cuz Cam(who’s all about the hustle)knows Mase is about his money.
@amaxwel3277
@amaxwel3277 2 жыл бұрын
Mase Made more history then all of them and they still hating
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt 2 жыл бұрын
What's crazy is Jimmy ain't meet Mase till '94 after knowing Zeke since kids in school in the Bronx and Harlem and Cam in '93 through Zeke. I don't know how true it is but Jimmy claims Mase taught him how to rap in exchange for him living in Taft with him and Cam before he blew up
@SupremeSpeaking
@SupremeSpeaking 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a fact Mase taught Jimmy how to rhyme
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt 2 жыл бұрын
@@SupremeSpeaking yup in '96 cause Mase said if Jim wanted to keep coming on tour he had to learn like Huddy did
@oshinsview4227
@oshinsview4227 2 жыл бұрын
That is wholeheartedly not true of when Jomo met Mase
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt 2 жыл бұрын
@@oshinsview4227 it had to be when they were 18 cause remember Jimmy was cool with Cam through Zeke before he was ever cool with Mase. Mase did say Cam and Jim hustled together and gave him their hand me downs so he could get fresh so that had to be happening around when they were all 17 or 18.
@dtraversodt
@dtraversodt 2 жыл бұрын
@@oshinsview4227 😐
@abdullahhardy8799
@abdullahhardy8799 2 жыл бұрын
Jim need to chill out!, because had it not been for Ma$e , JIM WOULD NOT BE RAPPING!, let’s talk about it!!
@TheSstretch68
@TheSstretch68 2 жыл бұрын
TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!! Don’t bite the hand that fed you.
@acidmack1041
@acidmack1041 2 жыл бұрын
Jim barely had a rap career anyway...he needs to remember that 🤣
@brianbrown4415
@brianbrown4415 2 жыл бұрын
@Abdullah Hardy Exactly 💯Mase thought Jim Jones how to rap... Pop lotty aka popa 135 Broadway all day was looking out for Mase stop it Jim.. Talk about Gangsta Lou putting a T.O.S ON YOUR HEAD .. T.o.s Terminate on sight so Jim moved to Miami... or how about when The homie D. Only 5"5 back slap you in Newark New Jersey for not showing up to perform for his mother birthday.. he paid you already you didn't show up but Juelz did so he slap the shit out of you and you ran to your Bentley and drove/ crashed because you was still dizzy from the smack🤣true story!!!!! ask around Newark/ the bricks .. you love Mase always got his name in your mouth sucker gossip ass dude "Jimmy ". This ain't gossip true facts from B. Ninja
@ValentinoB
@ValentinoB 10 ай бұрын
@@acidmack1041I mean, his verses on Real N*ggaz, I'm Ready, Come Home with Me are actually fire
@jumentu9385
@jumentu9385 2 жыл бұрын
1:23 😂 He pulls up to Mase
@Calvin23
@Calvin23 7 ай бұрын
Mase clowned all the haters with his witty raps I just started really getting to the money myself when Mase came out so felt a connection with the music. I would have loved their be lots of song with Mase and Camron their style is pure Harlem.
@abrahamlevy9923
@abrahamlevy9923 3 ай бұрын
Jim explained it vividly why Big L had those sentiments towards Mase, he said Mase didn't show love by not putting some of the artists on that wasn't making a buzz. I guess he looked out Cam and Jim because they alot closer to him.
@JPL16
@JPL16 2 ай бұрын
Jones has always hated Mase
@carlchargo6479
@carlchargo6479 2 жыл бұрын
R.I.Power Big L
@ibramblebush
@ibramblebush 3 ай бұрын
Cam said, "Two Bronx dudes chop it up."
@DBIGDEENO
@DBIGDEENO 3 ай бұрын
Mase explained it perfectly… They were pocket watching and not knowing he didn’t have it the way they expected. Why would he stay in Harlem especially with vultures like that? Camron understood it LATER, and matured after knowing how the business can take advantage of young inner city talent who sign these contracts where they’re really not rich as they appear… fast forward Cam and Mase are good, they’re rich and Jim is a bitter 50 year old Blood who fights old people in airports
@yorkrothschild9922
@yorkrothschild9922 2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for mase Jim would’ve never been on period
@ericcoffee6841
@ericcoffee6841 2 ай бұрын
They didn't know Mase was getting robbed legally, he ain't have money to give messing with Puff
@RJ_Focused
@RJ_Focused Ай бұрын
Jim’s story doesn’t match Cam’s. Cam said Mase was outside
@Ruby_Sterling
@Ruby_Sterling Ай бұрын
They trying to act like Mase was a bum.
@LFXMEDIA
@LFXMEDIA 2 ай бұрын
This didnt age well i had to look at the date lol....Fat Joe today: 85% of my rhmes are fabricated
@lsf5922
@lsf5922 2 ай бұрын
That’s funny I’ve never heard Kim mention big l
@nygelbartlett1843
@nygelbartlett1843 2 жыл бұрын
Fat joe you was seeing me and my mom's when we hit the corner on 163 and grand concourse to walk down the hill to my aunt building, it was a crowd of y'all I wasn't scared the mid 70s
@aktionpaccmb9434
@aktionpaccmb9434 2 ай бұрын
Hold up I gotta back up Mase. Mase got Cam a deal and Cam got Jim a deal. Mase started Harlem World and put multiple guys on. Mase is really the only one in Harlem that I remember putting ppl on.
@duwho27
@duwho27 Ай бұрын
Jim from the bx, well they met him while he was working in a store in the bx, I don’t think he around when they was young
@princepettyAF415
@princepettyAF415 2 жыл бұрын
Used a lot of folks..slept on my Auntie couch..told him to his face..idc how you cousin Jimmy Cam n dem fell out..pickup the phone n call Auntie Nancy and say hi..thankyou she ain’t got nun to do w nun..
@JamesThomas-bj8ih
@JamesThomas-bj8ih 2 жыл бұрын
My fav mc big L
@immunetoevil2324
@immunetoevil2324 Жыл бұрын
LMAO At least have a couples dudes with you that really about that life....
@dpizzle911
@dpizzle911 3 ай бұрын
Everyone was pocket watching Mase and didn’t even know what was going on!!💯
@Sportsguy0258
@Sportsguy0258 3 ай бұрын
All the girls loved Mase. It pissed everyone off except Cam because he was getting girls to
@Forever.Remain.Nameless
@Forever.Remain.Nameless 3 ай бұрын
Puff wasn't paying Mase right and the hood thought Mase was rich rich. Recipe for disaster....
@fabolousjada5070
@fabolousjada5070 3 ай бұрын
@@Sportsguy0258facts
@awsohmvision
@awsohmvision 3 ай бұрын
Communication is key!!! Mase should have kept it 💯 instead he was frontin like he had it but really didn’t. He even said that.
@Sportsguy0258
@Sportsguy0258 3 ай бұрын
@@awsohmvision lol aye so does everyone in Harlem.
@davebutz2448
@davebutz2448 2 жыл бұрын
Mase said he didn't have it like that when they thought he did but by the time he did really get the bag, too much drama and damage had been done to their relationships for him to give back the way he really wanted to smh. I still don't get how the next man feels someone owes them anything. smh
@grav9992
@grav9992 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have been trying to count his pockets for him
@dwayne-wayne
@dwayne-wayne 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't have it puff was fucking erybody
@chasestacks7792
@chasestacks7792 10 ай бұрын
They held mase down for years and took care of him its only right he give back
@hyyerr83
@hyyerr83 5 ай бұрын
I hate when guys dont understand friends thats IN THE HOOD! If i get rich... im not leavin my main homies out. ESPECIALLY if we all looked out for each other.
@gucci_got_ink
@gucci_got_ink 3 ай бұрын
Mase the reason they all got deals he taught him how to rap and brought cam to biggie.
@montelay8943
@montelay8943 3 ай бұрын
They hate my boy Murda
@DubbyDubois
@DubbyDubois 26 күн бұрын
Jealousy real
@Hollywood24163
@Hollywood24163 3 ай бұрын
If u notice they secretly hate mase
@tarloe
@tarloe Ай бұрын
They do.
@DubbyDubois
@DubbyDubois 26 күн бұрын
@@tarloeCam gets it. Thats why he squashed it
@ToasterForLife
@ToasterForLife 2 жыл бұрын
When the underdog wins, they hate. Mase did introduce Cam'Ron to Biggie. Walked him into his bedroom.
@prodigy513
@prodigy513 2 жыл бұрын
Pause, but yeah.
@FitsUWeddings
@FitsUWeddings 2 жыл бұрын
Facts, pause but facts
@dujuanjohnson5025
@dujuanjohnson5025 2 жыл бұрын
And taught Jimmy how to rap
@freshrich736
@freshrich736 6 ай бұрын
​@@dujuanjohnson5025and came up with the name diplomats too
@Glennweside
@Glennweside 2 ай бұрын
Why not big L tho?
@themollymachine
@themollymachine 3 ай бұрын
here because of "it is what it is"
@raulsalazar6362
@raulsalazar6362 2 жыл бұрын
If everyone around Mase didn't let Jealousy take over them they all could have ate more than they did
@jason-fu6tc
@jason-fu6tc 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Mase done blew Chrissy’s back out 🤣🤣🤣
@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU
@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU 3 ай бұрын
So did Po, and Jimmy never fixed his mouth to speak about him lmao he knew better.
@ronmatthews
@ronmatthews 3 ай бұрын
She touched it in Miami LMAO
@kslay14
@kslay14 3 ай бұрын
​@@ronmatthews lol word?
@timharris1675
@timharris1675 3 ай бұрын
​@@kslay14Free The Boss Don😎
@kslay14
@kslay14 3 ай бұрын
@@timharris1675 is that something to look up on KZbin or what
@pro2callmuzik
@pro2callmuzik 2 жыл бұрын
Jim Jones acts like he really grew up with Mase. Cam Cleary said Jim isn't from Harlem and they didn't grow up together. Mase taught Jimmy how to rap
@khalilburks5331
@khalilburks5331 2 жыл бұрын
Bra if u around nigga at 16 17 years old u definitely grew up with them
@daddyfamlittle6262
@daddyfamlittle6262 2 жыл бұрын
Yup!!!
@pookeyrich8974
@pookeyrich8974 2 жыл бұрын
His was born Bronx but he grew up in harlem
@jhonstarks4693
@jhonstarks4693 2 жыл бұрын
U from the town?
@HessKnows
@HessKnows 2 жыл бұрын
Jim stayed with his granny in Harlem so he came up with cam and mase them was his niggas Jim not cappin
@vlmshv
@vlmshv Жыл бұрын
They trying to re-write history. Conveniently left out the part that Big L’s NFL crew took a bad boy chain of one of the members prior and then big L wore that chain to the tunnel. Puffy obviously told mase he had to get at Big L and get that chain back since they both from Harlem and came up together. Jimmy been hating on mase his whole career. Shit lame
@DJBugsy215
@DJBugsy215 10 ай бұрын
😮
@jonstorm1484
@jonstorm1484 10 ай бұрын
​@@DJBugsy215who jimmy😅
@MichaelPolite-i5g
@MichaelPolite-i5g 5 ай бұрын
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU
@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU 3 ай бұрын
That last line... 100%. I witnessed the early part of that before I left Harlem the first time in '99. I don't fw jimmy hard to this day because he always been a snake.
@nikreece7955
@nikreece7955 3 ай бұрын
Damn that’s deep
@hassan415
@hassan415 2 жыл бұрын
In most cases it’s either damn he wasn’t even like that growing up now he a shooter. Or he wasn’t like that growing up and they press you till you become the shooter or coward away. It’s a lose lose growing up poor. These niggaz will set you up for failure then do a podcast about it like you the bad guy years later 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️🙅🏾‍♂️👎🏾
@jankylegz4331
@jankylegz4331 Жыл бұрын
Its crazy
@lawrenceq79
@lawrenceq79 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! 💯😂
@dagmantv
@dagmantv 2 жыл бұрын
Jim Jones: "Mase wasn't a hustler or never knew how to make money..." ... 🤷🏿‍♂️ But we all know Mase signed to BadBoy before any of them got legitimate deals! You can tell why Mase didn't do nothing for any of them because there is a hateful tone to what Jim is saying... Listen to how Memphis Bleek and TyTy talk about Jay; Banks and Ayo talk about 50; Dr Dre talk about Easy-E and PAC; even the Lox and Diddy... No matter what these dudes might go through they always give their bread winner the credit he deserves or is owed... And what I mean by that is Cam and Jim constantly dig out Mase like he's a punk but talk like he should have been helping them, make it make sense. You can't clown a man and then expect handouts.
@stocksinvestments2788
@stocksinvestments2788 2 жыл бұрын
🤔 damn that’s something to think about
@youbetterknowityoubettersa2685
@youbetterknowityoubettersa2685 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the million dollars worth of game podcast with Mase he explains it
@dagmantv
@dagmantv 2 жыл бұрын
@@youbetterknowityoubettersa2685 I have and it's basically they were hating on him believing he had more than he had and wasn't sharing the bag. So when he did finally have the bag, he was already at war with them so he couldn't share it.
@Camjj89
@Camjj89 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I rock with Cam and Jimmy, I gotta agree with you on that. Jim Jones seem like he still has ill feelings toward Mase
@jh8567
@jh8567 2 жыл бұрын
@@Camjj89 he grew up thinking hes better than mase, and mase taught him how to rap and make a living. And he cant face it. so he talks down on mase to feel better about it.
@scLefQ
@scLefQ 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to what Jimmy says..."Me and Cam was about hustlin and getting money; Ma$e wasn't with that." Then goes on to say how Ma$e got hand me downs and how they clowned on him. Any of the dudes that's with me don't get to look bummy while I'm getting money. You may not look as fly as me, but ain't no way I'm going to stunt on you if you my homie. Ma$e's means of getting money was rap and capitalized on that. How do you expect the dude you used to clown on and stunt on to turn around and give you what he finally achieved? Dudes got things backwards. And then you throw in Puffy robbing him all those years... it just allowed that man to see who was really down for him. I would move out of the city too if my so called "homies" were hating on me.
@naomithomas9572
@naomithomas9572 3 ай бұрын
I grew up in the PJ’s in Cali the had a good friend she was my homegirl. She was poor but extremely poor. But because she was a real one I didn’t dog her I gathered things for her so she can be fly. Because my heart is like that. When you’re a real friend you never talk about the misfortune of your friend. You ride or die with them, rob with them whatever it takes so that our walk is even. You hungry I got a sandwich oh you need something to wear I’m going to my sisters and we hooking up my friend. They dogged out Ma$e now look who’s laughing
@nickiversusonika8063
@nickiversusonika8063 2 ай бұрын
When did Jim say that he and Cam "clowned" on Mase? Jim clearly stated that Mase wasn't about hustling in the streets like he and Cam were. He then stated that he and Cam would make sure that Mase was fresh and were dressed up to par when he was around them. Both Jim and Cam made sure that Mase was good too. At what point, did he say that they basically made fun of Mase?🤔
@scLefQ
@scLefQ 2 ай бұрын
@@nickiversusonika8063 There's another interview in which Jimmy is talking about Ma$e and how they grew up. Search it for yourself.
@Maczomba1
@Maczomba1 2 жыл бұрын
Mase was the genius in Harlem, he became a millionaire at 18… he didn’t have carry the whole hood.
@DM-lj2mn
@DM-lj2mn 2 жыл бұрын
Without Mase there is no Dipset dude opened up the flood gates for Harlem and Camron connection to him is what got him signed
@KingMK31
@KingMK31 2 жыл бұрын
@@DM-lj2mn If you didn't know Cam would have went with Biggie at one point in his career!
@nathanamazin8464
@nathanamazin8464 2 жыл бұрын
@@DM-lj2mn without Big L there’d be no Mase
@HARDWORKCORP
@HARDWORKCORP 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanamazin8464 That's where ur wrong...L had the deal 1st, but didn't have the pull or power to put ppl on to bigger deals. He may have influenced style-wise but Mase didn't get his deal that changed his life thru L connections or promotion
@charlielongstick7157
@charlielongstick7157 2 жыл бұрын
Not smart enough to not fuck w ppl he couldn’t beat🤷🏾‍♂️.
@Rambunctious216
@Rambunctious216 2 жыл бұрын
Heard Jim wasn't really bout that life either.
@robertwhite9976
@robertwhite9976 2 ай бұрын
Bru there's video on, when beef happens who's running lol Rucker Park smh
@olliwest7341
@olliwest7341 2 ай бұрын
Ask Jimmy how they ran him out of Buff.... I DARE him to deny it
@swagnificentMAN
@swagnificentMAN 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy such a hater 😂😂😂 Mase had the juice and you didn’t just keep it a buck
@jada8047
@jada8047 2 жыл бұрын
Mase an Cam sound the same almost
@archsciontrismegistus4194
@archsciontrismegistus4194 2 жыл бұрын
Word cause how u riding with drivers and dt know who you sliding on?👀 Major major hater cap🤣🤣🤣🤣
@olearyeugene
@olearyeugene 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy ain't really about that neither. Too many stories of him getting his ass beat and crying
@Nemesio609
@Nemesio609 2 жыл бұрын
One thing bout Jim he was never a pussy doe he never ran from beef
@jaystacks5249
@jaystacks5249 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@BadaBigga
@BadaBigga 2 жыл бұрын
Who
@LTtvCombatSports
@LTtvCombatSports 2 ай бұрын
💀💀💀
@columbusohio72
@columbusohio72 2 ай бұрын
And running from rucker park
@SLSMe
@SLSMe 2 жыл бұрын
For those that don’t kno Ma$e corroborated this part of the story. The issues began when his homies started believing he had money he didn’t really have. He got signed to a deal and they expected kickback but he didn’t have it like that.
@franklingreene3132
@franklingreene3132 2 жыл бұрын
My lol I’m I’m M N
@hrrspaul4
@hrrspaul4 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@brianteague44
@brianteague44 Жыл бұрын
Agreed...Diddy was the blame cuz Mase ain't have the paper like he was flexing like he did.
@chasestacks7792
@chasestacks7792 10 ай бұрын
Rightfully because ppl was holdin him down before he got paper
@Nekowhite93
@Nekowhite93 2 ай бұрын
Even if he HAD the money, why would he owe them ANYTHING?
@kevinjohnson963
@kevinjohnson963 2 жыл бұрын
Before Mase got on he was the brokest and wasn’t fresh at all used hand me downs and nobody thought he would be the one to hit and it was basically revenge for him to shine on everybody when he got it
@eyeamgod2734
@eyeamgod2734 2 жыл бұрын
Mase also said that when he blew up he didn't have the money yet! He wrote all the hits and did the beats while Puff was out partying! By the no way out tour happen he was still figuring out the business side of music! During the end of the tour he figured out that he was the headline but wasn't getting paid! He said when he refused to go out they gave him 15k! He still fighting with Bad Boys right now for his 50% masters because Sony already paid him their 50% of the same masters and paid him back royalties plus more money he is owed!
@tgrogg9301
@tgrogg9301 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@SonniBlack180
@SonniBlack180 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly “Now it’s my turn to shit on these niggaz”
@lfreeman202
@lfreeman202 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a dude who want you to stay under em forever... As a teen he was broke... He changed his own life, then dudes assumed he owed them. They wanted Mase to stay the lil dirty broke cat forever, and couldn't handle Mase now having more... Cam did the same thing to Jim when he came up. He so used to Jim being the hype man, couldn't handle Jim being his own man...
@facksvillain2296
@facksvillain2296 6 ай бұрын
They knew who he’d become, if he was to catch a break. They were hating when they had more than him
@urbanflavorz
@urbanflavorz 2 жыл бұрын
When did Mase talk about selling crack smh. Jim Jones hatin. He put Cam on who put Jim on. He took Cam to Biggie
@hydro8sixty
@hydro8sixty 7 ай бұрын
Cam: Ma$e was getting money at 8 on the corner by his self I seen em walking to McDonald's with my mom's Jim is from the Bronx 😂😂
@dthomas1583
@dthomas1583 3 ай бұрын
And Jim was a bum
@WhiteSauceher
@WhiteSauceher 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 and Jim was broke
@dthomas1583
@dthomas1583 2 ай бұрын
@@hydro8sixty fuck he talking bout
@turnofeventz
@turnofeventz 3 ай бұрын
Big L was out b4 Ma$e...Jim Jones is a clown...How Ma$e supposed to put Big L on? 😅
@harri8162
@harri8162 2 ай бұрын
Big L flopped.
@Ismail-cf6xu
@Ismail-cf6xu 2 жыл бұрын
There’s something about Jim…Can’t put my finger on it but when it comes to Ma$e and Cam’s relationship, their history…listening to him talk about it there’s always this emotional thread that sticks out: hate, envy, jealousy? Idk
@ThePOSPlug
@ThePOSPlug 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@bigbusiness4335
@bigbusiness4335 2 жыл бұрын
He is a loser to him... he couldn't walk in those unfortunate shoes ...
@deanod8303
@deanod8303 2 жыл бұрын
Because he's not from the savage heart of Harlem like they were. So it made him wanna be even more bout it.
@bigbusiness4335
@bigbusiness4335 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanod8303 wtf are you talking about smfh
@Ismail-cf6xu
@Ismail-cf6xu 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanod8303 you may be right. Interesting theory
@mariusseidel9654
@mariusseidel9654 Жыл бұрын
Big L Rest in Peace 💯💥👌
@wafe107
@wafe107 11 ай бұрын
Big L was that dude. His punchlines were other worldly and his charisma was different. Top 3 dead or alive for me.🙏🏾🎤
@300quid
@300quid 5 ай бұрын
the illest to ever do it💙
@phillysmallz1
@phillysmallz1 3 ай бұрын
@@300quid🤣🤣🤣
@nivek1660
@nivek1660 3 ай бұрын
@@300quidStole from Mase and Nas
@AllPersonalNothingBusiness
@AllPersonalNothingBusiness 3 ай бұрын
​@nivek1660 everybody took a little something from someone else. Lyrically mase is not even close to L no disrespect
@nivek1660
@nivek1660 3 ай бұрын
@@AllPersonalNothingBusiness This is your opinion. L took from Mase not the other way around. Mase didn’t take from L and was sick with the lyrics. Just because you prefer Big L it doesn’t make him the better rapper/lyricist. It’s your personal preference.
@MaccaveliDon
@MaccaveliDon 2 жыл бұрын
All jim do is 🧢
@richiesantos4818
@richiesantos4818 3 ай бұрын
Cam said he used to get fresh because of mase and mase taught Jim how to rap....Jim is bitter and sad cam and mase are seeing success without him
@breakinbreadwnbjones4341
@breakinbreadwnbjones4341 2 жыл бұрын
So basically Mase started gettin money and the nigahs who was gettin money in Harlem b4 him got mad he was gettin money. That’s what I’m hearin’
@AndreWhyte
@AndreWhyte 3 ай бұрын
How was mase not getting to the bag if he got signed at 19? He wasn’t even legal to drink but doing world tours. What is Jim talking about?
@monnyo1123
@monnyo1123 2 жыл бұрын
Mase never rapped about that but sometimes Jim can do extra
@the4thtribe709
@the4thtribe709 2 жыл бұрын
Jones and Cam come off so Jealous of Ma$e.
@chrisrobinson8339
@chrisrobinson8339 2 жыл бұрын
But Jim. Didn't mase teach you how to rap?
@wunfoe
@wunfoe 2 ай бұрын
Mase rapped about his money and Playa haters. Sounds like he was accurately rapping about his life.
@njguy4844
@njguy4844 2 жыл бұрын
I never really heard Mase talk and rhyme about “that life”. He was on some smooth stuff.
@lisalopez8026
@lisalopez8026 2 жыл бұрын
His nickname was Mase Murda bro....Listen to Danger Zone
@malikburberry9981
@malikburberry9981 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was murder p Diddy name me pretty yeah murder mase was on gangsta shit in the beginning listen to his verse on niggas done started something of DMX Album
@SupremeSpeaking
@SupremeSpeaking 2 жыл бұрын
Murda Mase… Children of The Corn. Murda was DEFINITELY talking that talk lol
@MillieMoBuckz
@MillieMoBuckz 2 жыл бұрын
Murda Mase was Street …. MA$E was smooth
@adamcosman8789
@adamcosman8789 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisalopez8026 *murda mase
@brianingram6214
@brianingram6214 2 жыл бұрын
Grow up guys.Black on black negative energy
@themollymachine
@themollymachine 3 ай бұрын
jim always lying
@jadakiss7778
@jadakiss7778 3 ай бұрын
To depend on a 18 year to lift everyone else up is a serious issue. If you and cam were hustlers why would you be salty at a 18 year old for not lifting everyone else. These dudes crazy!
@marlonennis4786
@marlonennis4786 2 жыл бұрын
Jim sounds like yal were trying to extort Mase not help him.
@treydeuce8479
@treydeuce8479 2 жыл бұрын
exactly.. He said they were mad that he wasnt kicking back (that becomes extortion once you start pressing them for not kicking back) Then he said that mase was being ran out of harlem by guys who owned blocks and got money lol so why’d they need a kick back? Lol 🤷🏾‍♂️
@alexvilma599
@alexvilma599 2 жыл бұрын
Becuz like Jim said. When he didn’t have he held him down. Y’all missed that part. And even Mase said it. Cam would give him clothes and sneakers. If you my man and I’m giving you my clothes and sneakers so you can keep up with us. Then you blow up and you not gonna bless niggaz that helped you? Cmon
@alexvilma599
@alexvilma599 2 жыл бұрын
But that shit water under the bridge. Mase admitted he messed up. He got the money and wilded out. Him and Cam are cool. They just was talking a few days ago. Mase posted it
@slycooper1979
@slycooper1979 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexvilma599 bruh mase did not have the money when he first blew up what exactly did you expect him to kick back???? It took a couple months for mase to start seeing that money
@dandojambo1176
@dandojambo1176 2 жыл бұрын
Big created a style that transcend hip hop forever 😎🗣️💨🔥
@rasta9658
@rasta9658 2 жыл бұрын
that's what goes on in the hood i guess, peeps you grow up with envy you for making money and moving up. i always say this, the hood is the worst place to live, nothing good happens there.
@bribear0030
@bribear0030 Ай бұрын
you aren't lying
@nicestuff8755
@nicestuff8755 2 жыл бұрын
Mase was the smart one, he didn’t had to be bout that “life” to succeed, but was surrounded by a bunch of haters
@michaelpolite5805
@michaelpolite5805 2 жыл бұрын
Street 🐈 cats got at Mase according to Cam'ron
@RazorReg
@RazorReg 2 жыл бұрын
Well if that's the case why have a rap name " Murda Mase"???? That name alone is gonna get you checked.
@INCRWDntwrk
@INCRWDntwrk 2 жыл бұрын
“Murda” being a metaphor for murdering beats or murdering rappers on wax.
@Kingjames313
@Kingjames313 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Kingjames313
@Kingjames313 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpolite5805 According to a nigga that don’t fuck with him………
@Honeybadger007-hklrkch
@Honeybadger007-hklrkch 3 ай бұрын
Jim know he is done since Cam hooked up with Ma$e...its just a matter of fact 😂😂😂😂
@giftedimagesllc
@giftedimagesllc 9 ай бұрын
What’s funny is that Mase corroborated most of this stuff on Million dollars worth of game podcast. Mase said he was poor and used to clean Cam’s sneaker and also saying Cam’s hand me downs were his get fresh. He felt like he was always #2 to Cam. It always feels like Jim is speaking from a personal place whenever he talks about Mase. Always in a backhanded tone. Maybe it’s just me. 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️
@acidmack1041
@acidmack1041 2 жыл бұрын
Jim still mad that the most successful cat from their clique didn't carry him
@YungDes83
@YungDes83 4 ай бұрын
Just cuz your signed doesn’t mean you can put people on. Plus Jim weds to grow up. Mase is the smart one. Where’s Big L now And Jim still fighting in the streets t forty something
@JulioCoca-th9le
@JulioCoca-th9le 3 ай бұрын
20 30 deep Joe a punk
@leefortuin9839
@leefortuin9839 2 жыл бұрын
Ma$e a better emcee than both Jim & Crack.They didnt do or live all the things they rapped about either.
@shabazz360
@shabazz360 11 ай бұрын
Jim didn’t but then TS dudes was for real. Joe included.
@andrik78
@andrik78 3 ай бұрын
Jim jones was from the Bronx what’s he talking about
@mase552000
@mase552000 3 жыл бұрын
This was posted a month ago but ...First lol . I've never been first it feels good
@frenchy2047
@frenchy2047 3 жыл бұрын
Booo!!! 🍅 👋🏾
@_bigmalo_
@_bigmalo_ 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@NVTwistedProductions
@NVTwistedProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine feeling good about being first on a youtube comment.
@Loyale1229
@Loyale1229 2 жыл бұрын
@@NVTwistedProductions Let the kid have his moment danggggg lol
@trueking1857
@trueking1857 2 жыл бұрын
If that feels good too you then you need too get out more
@TB-rt1hm
@TB-rt1hm 2 жыл бұрын
i went to college with mase.
@rasulsamad5860
@rasulsamad5860 2 жыл бұрын
Clark?
@mr.allfacts9489
@mr.allfacts9489 3 ай бұрын
🧢
@Nekowhite93
@Nekowhite93 3 ай бұрын
😔 “he wasn’t showing no love” Mase: sat down and TAUGHT JIM JONES HOW TO WRITE RAPS(literally taught him how to fish) Mase took cam’ron to biggie this starting Camron’s music career and by proxy helped father dipset if things like artistic lineage matter. So already mase hand held & directely put on his best friend and the next 20 years of harlems hip hop influence. And that’s just by putting cam in place, mase was bad boy entrainment it’s biggie in 1st place then it’s mase all of puffys 90 hits run outside of victory and all about the Benjamin mase wrote. Puff betrayed him, He Tried to put on harlem world the group, he got betrayed by his best friend in cam… big l another childhood friend tried to set him up to get robbed and this story from the tunnel, the hot 97 call where Jim shat on the person that is the reason he can even be a success (mase) and mase never even until this day has said any public negative thing towards jimmy. Not to mention the other street beefs you hear he had over 🐱 here we are all these years later and mase was right from the start! And peep this he outlived all that did him wrong and made more money than all of them and “thought he was the king of harlem” look at it like this. Till this day no other harlem rapper that I know of has sold more records than mase. And he only has 3 albums. Harlem world went platinum 4 times. All of the other harlem rappers album sales combined don’t equal that. He is until further notice the king of harlem.
@yahstruck67
@yahstruck67 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Fat Joe corny as hell and I used to love young Joe. People get old and now think they have to gossip to make a living. God bless the dead. Rest easy Big L. The man is not here to defend this crap.
@andrik78
@andrik78 3 ай бұрын
These 2 are the biggest liars
@weedkanda6531
@weedkanda6531 2 жыл бұрын
You try to jump me I'm not putting u on either. And then the guy mad at mase was over a chick..soooooooo?!?!!? What are we really saying
@asonc5043
@asonc5043 2 жыл бұрын
Jumping someone and calling someone out is different man. Mace don’t rep the hood, L did. Listen to the songs. L call out his brothas every time. Mace? Never.
@asonc5043
@asonc5043 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be mad too if I was all around better and someone else getting hyped.
@el84oro
@el84oro 2 жыл бұрын
@@asonc5043 mase put cam on. Cam got his first deal on the strength of mase introducing him to big. Betha taught Jim how to rap. He stopped messing wit Jim over some other shit
@TA-ht4jo
@TA-ht4jo 2 жыл бұрын
@@asonc5043 That’s not true. Mase called out a few of his homies like Cam
@Black-cd3lc
@Black-cd3lc 2 жыл бұрын
So Mase making a group with Cardan, Blink, Loon and Baby Stase wasn’t putting Harlem on? Taking Cam to Big and cam getting his deal through Big with Un? Teaching Jim to rap? All of that is NOT showing love. All of this done while going 5x platinum on Julie solo debut and writing hits for Puff….make it make sense.
@asktizz8034
@asktizz8034 3 ай бұрын
Jim a weirdo ! U can tell he use to wanna be down
@automatic1
@automatic1 3 ай бұрын
So when made was broke everybody was cool with it but when he got money everybody started hating 😂 the hood is funny. Is Jim jones is even funnier saying the ppl that got the real money did t like him getting money. And him taught jim how to fish (RAP) and him hate him too lol
@rcvolts1283
@rcvolts1283 2 жыл бұрын
Jim playin with his hair like a little girl happy her mom just braided it
@bribear0030
@bribear0030 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mjones3911
@mjones3911 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like dudes was tight about Mase's success
@chrisgoffe5048
@chrisgoffe5048 Жыл бұрын
..always LOVED ma$e especially with 50 cent
@apeshit111906
@apeshit111906 3 ай бұрын
Jimmy a hater
@BoomBoom-fw5zk
@BoomBoom-fw5zk 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know Harlem thinks about Jim Jones wearing blouses..???
@lith1156
@lith1156 2 жыл бұрын
fukn lol
@hr9336
@hr9336 7 ай бұрын
Mass said it himself. He was the dirty dude in the background until he met Puff. Then all these dudes expected him to take care of them before he take care of himself. No wonder he bounced on them clowns.
@bigcohiba298
@bigcohiba298 2 ай бұрын
But Cam said Mase used to give him stuff Sounds like Jim Jones cappin
@nathylsnipesakayipes7252
@nathylsnipesakayipes7252 2 жыл бұрын
Salute from your Winston-Salem, NC family 💯
@natsusatsujinki8342
@natsusatsujinki8342 2 жыл бұрын
All that tough guy 💩 hardly lasts long. All the guys thinking pressing another man over jealousy hardly think how cheap a life can be bought.
@itsamedjmario
@itsamedjmario 2 жыл бұрын
Fat Joe felt like the biggest back stabbed ever ??? Let’s ask Big Puns wife and kids what THEY THINK 🤔
@mikejarmon8431
@mikejarmon8431 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that's punching 👊 niggas in the balls with brass knucks on
@harveymcelroy9332
@harveymcelroy9332 2 жыл бұрын
Facts!!
@talk_yo_shiii8537
@talk_yo_shiii8537 Жыл бұрын
How Could Mase put anybody ON when he was getting played by Puff, & give bk what when he had nothing & was tryna figure out how to get tf away from BadBoy
@MrAwak3
@MrAwak3 Жыл бұрын
So pressing Mase because he was successful ? The more that comes out about Big L, the more you realize he was a low life.
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