Fatal System Reset Above Java Sea | The Story of Flight 8501

[@Aviationaccidents]

This video discusses the incident involving Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501. Due to simulator limitations, a Thai flag is visible on the aircraft depicted. Nonetheless, the rest of the livery, including the red color scheme and "AirAsia" branding, is accurate. The only discrepancy is the flag near the cockpit.

[@sailaab]

Very well narrated and supplimented by the excellent animations. 👌🏼💙🤍👍🏻 Long time subscriber already🙂 Since English is not my native tongue, I usually find it a bit tacky to always understand other accents, but in your case.. the pace of speaking and the clarity of diction is perfect. For this reason itself, wish you would also include more details of what the final report was like or what the recommendations were oe the post report changes brought in. Although I am just an amateur and do not understand many of these things, overall it adds to the documentary. Also, you gave away the suspense upfront😛 by disclosing that the fault was not with the computer but with the rudder limited PCB. Often in storytelling it is the suspense that keeps one hooked even more. But i still appreciate and respect your creative choices

[@ianoliver3879]

Pictures quite good, but some of the narration is in the present tense. Oh dear!

[@andyvan5692]

I prefer the real life Air crash investigations, or the Mayday series, this animated stuff is a bit childish, and doesn't adequately depict the situation, just a Representation only, in 3D not real life.

[@funderstruckdotcom]

I find it extremely disrespectful to Thai AirAsia that you depict their flag on this story. The disclaimer should not just be in the comments but at the start of the video. Better still it’s animated so go back and fix it!

[@pilotactor777]

" I have control.!!! Now get your hands off the fu#king stick!!!" ....correct captain response.

[@mmontgomery383]

FACTS!!!

[@ShaunieDale]

He should have long-pressed the red button on his stick! Easy to be correct after the event though.

[@katieell4084]

Exactly. It is so frustrating that so many of the crashes we learn about could have been prevented by such an obviously necessary action. It also blows my mind how so many pilots seem to forget they have a display that shows the plane's orientation. There are three of them, for heaven's sake.

[@zephyr8072]

Both pilots seemed to have completely failed at basic cognition and communication, especially the co-pilot. I can get stressful situations and distractions, however pilots have safely landed their planes or at least done their best to save as many lives as possible numerous times in horrific situations. This was clearly a case of lacking essential training and perhaps not being psychologically up to the job. Planes are perfectly safe and routine *when they work* but pilots should always be ready for the worst.

[@GooseGumlizzard]

and maybe dont yell "PULL DOWN" like a fucking moron. If anything say "NOSE DOWN" or something. Terrible pilots.

[@peterj5751]

It’s incredible to me that such an experienced captain who appeared to understand the problem and what was needed to save the plane never uttered the words “my airplane”

[@bigwaidave4865]

Same as Air France Rio de Janeiro. Highly experienced Pilots forgot how to fly an airplane.

[@noir8976]

Nice to hear from one of the survivors.

[@fredspofford]

"What was the main cause of the crash?" "Another First Officer stall" "My gosh when's the NTSB gonna finally address that?"

[@Thorz74]

Stress can do this to the brain. It doesn't matter how skillful and experienced a pilot is. Live mechanical feedback on what the other stick is doing could really help. Relying on one of the pilots yelling "my airplane" has already cost too many lives

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

Also pressing the override switch on the side stick might’ve helped

[@misch2]

That big "Now everyone can fly" sign on the aircraft makes a pretty nice summary of pilot's abilities and confidence level.

[@ObsidianFrog]

Hey, we're all the same now, remember comrade!

[@TheLordreigns91]

I don't think it means everyone's a pilot lol😂just means that airline cheap and affordable to all

[@issaposter]

@@TheLordreigns91the original commenter knew that, it was just a joke pointing out the irony

[@TheJurnalyst]

​@@issaposter Ikr? 🤭

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

Oof... The irony of ironies.

[@AluminumOxide]

As an aerospace engineer studying at university, I really appreciate your coverage of the finest details of flight systems such as the computer and related components, how it works and its contribution to the flight. All of which can be easily understood intuitively.

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks! :)

[@MisterHowzat]

"intuitively"?!? Really?!? Well done on making the rest of us feel stupid.

[@Deadbeatbeats]

The voiceover is giving me nostalgia from the old discovery channel crash investigations, so good

[@Aviationaccidents]

:)

[@Deadbeatbeats]

@@Aviationaccidents I just really like the format you are using, so im commenting in hopes you never change it. I usually lose interest in these type of videos after a while, but not yours. These are very entertaining as well as educational, cant wait for more🔥

[@FireStriker_]

It really is

[@android584]

Can you tell if it's text to speech or human?

[@Eyeballpaul84]

Ai​@@android584

[@lurpy.]

most underated aviation channel on the internet

[@Aviationaccidents]

💛✈

[@bingbong5106]

Just be glad we found it before it takes off (pun intended)

[@HealyUnit]

@@bingbong5106 I feel pretty up in the air about your comment.

[@lukethomas.125]

This is really well done. Also, it's creepy how the first officer's inputs matches the inputs of Pierre Bonin on Air France 447, an Airbus A330

[@Shangrila51]

They both had the same weed dealer

[@batman_2004]

What is imputs?

[@frostdash-aviation]

He meant inputs​@@batman_2004

[@frostdash-aviation]

Inputs*

[@mdsupreme1776]

@@Shangrila51Honestly. You would think decades of flying experience would provide a little common sense

[@pablorubio8287]

Incredible how fast the lessons of flight 447 were forgotten

[@stephennettles2309]

I watched that video and this one back to back and they were eerily similar.

[@GooseGumlizzard]

really stupid design by airbus

[@zephyr8072]

@GooseGumlizzard How dare Airbus assume the pilots won’t be imbeciles.

[@timothymarchant]

Literally the same thing.

[@GooseGumlizzard]

@@zephyr8072 what do you work for Airbus or something?

[@xcifer]

The mere fact that the captain didn't hold the red button and took priority is mind blowing.. There was so much incompetence in this cockpit.

[@jornalnumero125]

Under extreme stress and fear of death you simple stop thinking. Both of them were fighting for their lifes. No time to talk or understand the situation, just act. This is why the airplane has callouts for simple things like stall or dual imput: to make clear to the pilots the gravity of the situation. It's hard not to, but i try to not blame the pilots for their last actions. They were just scared.

[@angrya1po290]

Also how the first officer didn’t see the connection between him pulling the flight stick all the way up and the subsequent stall warning…

[@tomekk.1889]

​@@jornalnumero125If you're scared then you shouldn't be a pilot period. You're a danger to yourself and others. Flying is not for everyone

[@JJFX-]

​@@tomekk.1889Anyone would be scared man. I'm not justifying anything that happened but even the best pilot would be once a plane this size seemingly goes out of control in low visibility conditions. That's not to say many wouldn't perform better under stress but once confidence is lost in the ability to control the machine you're going to get tunnel vision. The video makes it seem like this went on for a lot longer than it did. In reality we're talking about just minutes between trying to get control and being at the bottom of the sea.

[@MisterHowzat]

​@@JJFX- Nope. It's pretty basic to 1) look at the artificial horizon 2) have only one pilot take over the controls in a critical situation. And as someone else has pointed out, if you can't keep a cool head under such circumstances, then don't be a pilot. And be mindful that the captain used to fly fighter jets. He should have been cool under pressure. Just say to his first officer: "My plane, I'm taking over." And look at the instruments, damnit - the artificial horizon! And the airspeed!! This is so damn basic!!!

[@AutopilotAndChill]

I’m typed on the 320 here in the USA and it always blows me away that some pilots just refuse to scan their instruments. If it’s not on the checklist, don’t do it. Absurd the captain attempted an in flight circuit breaker reset that was not directed by the ECAM, QRH or supplemental procedures. Then the fact the FO couldn’t fly his way out of a wet paper bag. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@alex_zetsu]

I guess he was getting desperate at that alarm going off. I bet even if he knew the consequences of turning off the FACs, he'd just tell his FO "No, I got a better idea. Prepare for manual flying the autopilot will disconnect for a momment" and do it anyways in an attempt to silence the alarm.

[@katieell4084]

As is all too common for crashes like this, it seems obvious to us that the pilot should have diverted when the problem wouldn't go away. This is why airlines have no-fault diversions and go-arounds, is it not?

[@charlesc.9012]

Their airmanship was on par with 20-hour newbies. The Captain's actions really do reflect the things fighter pilots do in mechanical trouble, along with the lack of communication

[@jsmirnoff77]

First of all, if it's not in QRH and you have no idea what it does, stop pulling circuit breakers. Second of all, they were what... FL310? That's PLENTY of altitude to trade for speed. If only they actually understood sidestick priority. Also... was it -61C as SAT? Why would they turn on anti-ice at that point? That's WAY outside the range.

[@cpgoef6]

Unfortunately the Airbus is nothing like other types of Boeings, MD’s, and Lockheed’s that other pilots flew in the past. Many of these pilots don’t understand the Airbus systems and logic and thus do things that might work in an older airplane but not the Airbus. I had to completely re-cage my brain to learn, understand, and speak Airbus logic when learning to fly it.

[@khalid3425]

You’re a master at this. 24 mins is like 24 secs. Excellent job my friend. 👏👏👏

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks! ❤

[@JET7C0]

Yeah - I just finished a couple, including this one and his vids are all excellent - surprised they don't have more subscribers, but I imagine that will change soon enough.

[@jarfan8571]

After watching this video, it brought back familiar memories of an incident I experienced a month ago with Indonesia AirAsia. I was flying from Bali to Bandung. Just as the plane had pushed back and started its engines, it returned to the gate, and we waited on the plane for about 40 minutes. Several technicians came and went into the cockpit. The pilot only explained that there was a technical issue, and we had to go back to the starting point. After that, the flight went smoothly, and we reached our destination.

[@jarfan8571]

It seems like they’ve learned from the past. Quite a few technicians came, and some entered the cockpit. It looked like there was a serious issue with the plane, as this was my first experience of something like this in all my years of flying.

[@Aviationaccidents]

@@jarfan8571 Good to hear that!

[@karlfriedrich7758]

The number of air crash incidents I've seen where dual-input has caused an accident makes me wonder why Airbus sticks aren't directly linked. I'm not an engineer, but combining inputs and averaging them out seems like a terrible way to do things because both pilots inputting opposites will be thinking their inputs aren't enough and not completely clear on who has control.

[@ruslanasnaumovas7781]

The sidesticks have priority switches that let a pilot take control, any of the pilots could push the button and have full priority of the aircraft.

[@Thorz74]

@@ruslanasnaumovas7781 If I am not mistaken pressing the priority switch doesn't immediately transfer control. I think that specialists said after the AF447 crash that it takes 40 seconds of continuous holding of the button for this to happen. I have no idea why the time is so long if you ask me.

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

@@Thorz74 I think it's more like 20seconds, but the idea is that less than that may be an inadvertent input... which would be a bad thing....

[@karlfriedrich7758]

@@ruslanasnaumovas7781thank you, I do know about the priority switch, but it still allows for dual input when not selected and in the heat of the moment that can unfortunately be easily forgotten, along with simple things like "I have control" or agreeing on a course of action together. I can't think of a good reason why the sticks shouldn't be directly linked at all times like the yoke on a Boeing. Imagine having two controls for your car and the passenger doing the exact opposite to you while you're trying to navigate an icy road. . I can

[@tagtag-connected5263]

The media would let you believe only Boeing aircraft crashes. The dual joystick with independent inputs in airbus is the dumbest design ever. Terrible design

[@jgiza8888]

Why did they think they could reset the breaker in flight? Heck, I don't even like rebooting my remote work computer at home with zero chance of losing my life.

[@halimrahman]

On this day, I was on another flight from KLIA heading for Doha on my way forward to Barcelona. 2014: there was no WiFi onboard and I wasn't on roaming either. I remember how frantically friends and family were trying to reach me and only get to read/hear messages once I landed in Barcelona. Prayers for the lost souls.

[@georgeross9834]

“I have control “ by the captain would easily have saved all their lives

[@22BIKS]

One of the best youtube channels for plane crash documentaries!

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanksa mate!

[@Infinite_Ouroboros]

Why TF did the first officer continue to pull the nose up despite the stall warning? Should be instinctual to push the nose down during a stall to gain enough speed to recover, regardless of what someone's telling you... Not seeing the horizon as a reference shouldn't have been an issue, too, since they still had instrumental flying. The captain should not have been fiddling with resetting systems he's not 100% familiar with in the first place, should have kept doing the normal reset procedure, no matter the annoyance, since it wasn't affecting the actual flight. It's totally human error.

[@X1erra]

It's quite easy to forget all of these things when you're basically falling from the sky. Imagine like it's your first time skydiving. You probably struggle to even do the most basic of things and cling to your parachute know-how for dear life; nothing else matters. I think this is what happened to him.

[@Infinite_Ouroboros]

@@X1erra It's not easy to forget, especially when all pilots train to the point where primary controls are instinctual, especially from stall recoveries. What happened was that the first officer prioritised the captain words over his instincts, to blindly follow his command which he also misunderstood. In high pressure situations, people tend to deligate decisions to those with more authority or rank then carry out whatever order is given without thinking.

[@murathankayhan2312]

@@X1erra nah bro. That's what pilots are trained for. Not an average skydiver geek is prepared for. They dont have right to forget all of it when they're mid air.

[@user-pl6si3jn9d]

Because he was Black.

[@MyProjectsTV]

@@X1erra I have almost no idea how to fly a plane and I know that when I get the stall warning I bloody pitch the nose down! And they were pilots they should be trained 1000 times better than me at this.

[@rafazeppeli8778]

this is why communication skill is the most important aspect in life

[@nite82hawk]

One of my new favorite channels on KZbin.

[@user-nk9qo3fc2x]

From a non specialist point of view: when an unexpected incident occurs, the corrective actions people feel compelled to take without fully understanding the consequences cause an annoying but manageable problem transform into a catastrophic and irrecoverable one. I’ve seen that countless times in IT operations (fortunately with less tragic consequences).

[@mihaiceclan9849]

True, but why did the pilots did not prioritise to solve the stall, which was the biggest issue at that time. Regardless of the language barrier, it should come naturally to push the stick so you can recover from stall, even though the captain said pull down (a mistake). When you are falling you can feel it especially at that rate of 20000 feet per minute so the stall is obvious and the procedure to recover from stall should start immediately. So sad these things happen. 🙁

[@fredspofford]

​@@mihaiceclan9849Some people just should have never become pilots. As for op I'm guilty of this very thing, as a fellow IT guy. If the thing belongs to me anyway lol. Once I start taking it apart, consider it gone.

[@stscc01]

Sounds familiar to me... in 30 years of IT Service I've seen people doing the weirdest things under stress. Pilots sometimes seem to be no better...

[@ralfhartmann8601]

@@mihaiceclan9849 I think, you cannot feel falling. But of course you must have knowledge how to detect and then how to use an Airbus in alternate law (it is then more work, but this is not everyone thing...). Or you should not be allowed to pilot an Airbus.

[@sirotem]

The plane crashed due to one mistake of the pilots - the operation of the joystick by both pilots at the same time, due to the lack of a disabled instruction from the captain. He had to declare "I control the aircraft", and then the co-pilot would leave the joystick and the captain would stabilize the aircraft with ease.

[@shnizekreeg7098]

Great job! I love the style, the cinematography, the narration and the straight facts with a touch of drama without being overly dramatic and lengthy. I think another minute at the end of telling us what changes were made or lessons learned within the airline and within aviation after the accident would be some nice icing on this delicious cake. This just might be the best aviation channel on youtube.

[@jackt883]

It seems absolutely crazy to me that having both sticks operating at the same time is A) Allowed and B) Combines the input!!

[@danielkaufmann15]

None of the pilots pushed the button to get the control of the airplane. In this case the computer calculated "his own" interpretation of the commands. This button doesn't exist for fun.

[@LittleMew133]

That's Airbus. Unless one side presses the priority button, the computer averages out. Boeing, the Yorks are linked.

[@agps4418]

@@LittleMew133 *yokes

[@harrishariadi9329]

Next time flight schools should consider training the pilots to fly fully manual besides autopilot. Also, flight hours should be divided into manual and autopilot flight hours. Pilot with more manual hours means better trained.

[@nigelbond4056]

A tragic case of panic in the cockpit with confusion and poor CRM. It must have been a horrifying last few moments for those poor passengers.

[@_Giorgio_]

flying is like nuclear energy. Accidents happen very rarely, but when they do, its pretty dangerous/deadly

[@danielkaufmann15]

But when an airplane crashes, an area around 1000 miles of the crash site won't be devastated by radiation.

[@LuizDahoraavida]

​@@danielkaufmann15and yet less people die on nuclear accidents

[@GooseGumlizzard]

@@LuizDahoraavida fewer*.

[@prusaudisisill5644]

This is my new favorite channel. Please keep making more. The quality of these videos is so much better than any other channel in the same genre! The competition isnt even close

[@PokemonParadise2010]

you have a perfect voice for narration! well explained!

[@PALZYT]

i know that flying is incredibly safe these days and that pilots are incredibly skilled, who deserve all the cred but when the unthinkable like in this case happens and you as a passenger are sitting in the plane completely powerless and about to crash it's just unimaginable and heartbreaking 😮

[@ChimmyChimChim95]

Idk about that if you're flying a Boeing...

[@equallyeasilyfuqyou]

@@ChimmyChimChim95this was an airbus, the pilots doomed the plane.

[@adoreme4245]

Parachoote

[@howdan1985]

Thank you for another absolutely world class air crash investigation video - fascinating, informative and incredibly well produced. The similarities to the AF447 incident are staggering. Huge fan of your channel and an even bigger fan of the narrator's voice.

[@sensiblewombat]

I've recently discovered your channel and absolutely love your content. Your videos are beautifully made despite covering some pretty harrowing aviation disasters!

[@Aviationaccidents]

Many thanks! :)

[@xavierdoctor]

It's Air France 447 all over again. Damnit i thought we all learned from that flight. The same damn dual input warning and another first officer pulling back. RIP to all who were lost

[@nurrizadjatmiko21]

As an Indonesian avgeek myself, this was a very sad and unnecessary accident because Indonesia AirAsia is the airline that i've flown the most when i was a kid with no serious accident until 4 days before the New Year 2015. When the investigators told the public that the A320 stalled at high altitude, i immediately remember Air France 447. In the case of Air Asia Flight 8501, the captain decided to make a deadly solution that would resulted it's Airbus Protection System to also be disabled and lead his First Officer to experience spatial disorientation that resulted a stalled at terrifying 19.000 feet per minute until the A320 hits the sea.

[@focusedfox7167]

Average Indonesian incompetence 😓🤡🤮

[@agps4418]

why do you have to tell the story of the very video we're watching?

[@focusedfox7167]

@@agps4418 attention seeking, typical of most Indonesians

[@focusedfox7167]

@@nurrizadjatmiko21 attention seeking

[@focusedfox7167]

@@nurrizadjatmiko21 Excuse me. Who asked? 🤓☝🏿

[@danielkaufmann15]

Well done Sir, this was a really good explanation of this tragic accident. 😢

[@TaylorKay619]

Love this channel. Wish there were more uploads

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks! :)

[@LeeStewart]

This has all of the similar markings and red flags of Air France Flight 447. If this were a Boeing aircraft, based on how they use yolks rather than sidesticks these accidents could’ve been prevented.

[@user-cn6df6jn4v]

Or a better system to determine who is in control. Dual input is all you hear.

[@nathalia65157]

Did they speak to the engineer after? And how could there be miscommunication about pull up or pull down- I would’ve thought it was obvious that the way you pull takes you the opposite direction. Man what a tragedy!

[@sam512]

What even is this channel?!? Didn’t exist until recently, yet the production quality of each video is very high. How??? Where did you come from?

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks! It's basically because I 'work' 24/7

[@ReaperX27-01]

Likely one of those channels where the actual owners pays multiple freelancers to create videos. Great business model and works on niche videos like this where all you need is to understand air accident reports which is pretty hard, but doable as a job.

[@StephenLuke]

RIP To the passengers and crew of Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501

[@danielfox9461]

I got to be honest, this one pisses me off more than most, the FOs panic freak out and the captains freeze up and not taking over when he knew what to do, makes me feel like the planes are doing too much of the flying and the humans can't handle when things don't work by themselves like they are supposed to but im also smart enough to realize the equipment didn't fail here and if the humans hadn't messed it up in the first place they wouldn't have needed to be able to fix it, is that a catch-22?

[@danieldusentrieb5788]

Why did the first officer keep pulling the nose up even though they were in an active stall? It makes no sense whatsoever. This is piloting 101!

[@blackseifer10]

Thank you for this video. My friend was one of the victim and I never really knew what happened to the plane. Everyone around me only keep saying plane accident but no really thorough explanation. Now I can rest easy knowing what happened.

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I love this channel honestly, thank you for creating quality videos. Seeing your notification makes my night !!

[@Aviationaccidents]

Wow, thank you!

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I subscribed to this channel a day back. I do appreciate. Nice voice, explanation and most of all, I'm getting to know more about flights and cockpits

[@Aviationaccidents]

Welcome and thanks!

[@adoreme4245]

I want to be with u

[@QueenKennaofStormholt]

I love aviation accident videos and this channel is great, well done.

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks!

[@saltymonke3682]

"I HAVE COMMAND" is such a crucial sentence

[@Skecys]

How can experienced pilots pull up during a stall warning. Boggles my mind every time...

[@machintrucGaming]

It's what was instructed for a long time I believe. The pilots were being graded on altitude lost. Mentour pilot explains this on his RIO-PARIS video I remember

[@comfortablynick1]

@@machintrucGamingStall recovery is the same whether you are in a Cessna 152 or an Airbus A380 … push the nose over and trade altitude for speed. They had plenty of altitude which makes this all the more tragic. All the captain had to say was "my airplane." The FO would have taken his hand off the stick, and everyone would have lived.

[@charlesc.9012]

Older pilots were trained in an era obsessed with 0-loss stall recovery, especially in America, where this practice stayed for a long time. It was clearly stupid, but not enough people died back then to change the rule. The truth is that it might have worked with smaller prop-driven aircraft, where propwash provides airflow over the wings and control surfaces, but modern aircraft are too heavy and require too much airspeed to make that feasible.

[@user-pf6qq2pi1q]

they literally didnt know they are stalling, they thought the whole computer is broken...

[@saltymonke3682]

They didn't know they're stalling due to double input

[@josephconnor2310]

I'm familiar with this accident yet your video on it is top-notch. Great work!

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks!

[@frostdash-aviation]

I really thought you would have 5M subscribers. Keep going! You will definitely succeed!

[@Aviationaccidents]

Wow, thanks!

[@bobbymunyavi5357]

The First Officer was quite the dummy.

[@Angelica._.officalll]

Eerrrr, no. The Caption should not have reset the breakers mid flight

[@saltymonke3682]

​@@Angelica._.officalll both are

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You have such a good technical knowledge of flight.

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This is now together with mentour pilot my favorite aircraft channel! I think you've just started? Your channel should have way more subscribers than 50k! Keep up the good work!

[@Aviationaccidents]

Welcome aboard! And thanks for your kind words!

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[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks!

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How does this guy have only 52k subs… amazing content, keep up the quality

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Glad you like it!

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Thank you kindly!

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[@Aviationaccidents]

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I just recently found your channel and holy shit I love the way you make the videos. Also love the voice, I grew up with similar voices from all these documentaries I watched with my dad. Nostalgia definitely kicking in. You also keep a very good amount of detail without going overboard, so people with no depth knowledge about aviation like me can follow along very easily. Hopefully more videos will come, I will be here to watch! Thanks for this

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Thank you so much! Working on it!

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[@fr89k]

If only there was a callout to notify the other pilot that you took over control, idk. Maybe "I have control" or so... Maybe we can additionally put a button somewhere to override the other pilot? Maybe a button on the sidestick? Maybe we can also make it red, just to be sure?

[@mdmgreen]

AirAsia 8501 was flying to Singapore not Kuala Lumpur. It’s such an embarrassing and yet glaring error.

[@marianostarosiliz]

Incredible! Thank you for portraying disasters in so much detail. You could do LAPA flight 3142. Its a story of bad training, fatigue and corruption that ended fatally. Give it a read. The recordings are available in youtube. Cheers from Argentina! 🇦🇷

[@beatsx]

Nice, a new episode! Lekker bezig jullie en ga zo door!

[@Aviationaccidents]

Dankjewel! Gaat helemaal goed komen!

[@user-ur8yk5yr7q]

Your animations are so realistic and awesome to watch. Great job 👍

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thank you so much 😀

[@halstonheap6531]

this is the only incident I’ve seen that seems so intentional it’s mind blowing

[@rc70ys]

In hindsight he should have simply continued the off then on sequence. Amazing in this day and age pilots can simply reset a circuit breaker. Unbelievable

[@comfortablynick1]

They have to have access in case of a fire

[@Stuart.Branson.]

There has been a few vids I watched where the FO was pulling back and not understanding that this was the cause of the problem, and crashed.

[@Aaron-rv7el]

Really like the 20mim run times of your videos. 40+ min is too long imo, which seems to be the case for other channels.

[@Aviationaccidents]

Good to know!

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I understand that solder cracking is associated with the use of lead-free solder, which is mandatory at least here in the European Union, because the EU banned leaded solders many years ago. Lead-free solder is hard and brittle, so it cracks more easily than leaded solder. Electronic repair professionals and hobbyists hate the lead-free stuff because of its terrible properties, and they obtain leaded solder "under the counter" from various sources, often abroad. The ban of leaded solder is particularly stupid when you consider that for instance a single car battery might contain 10 kilograms of lead, whereas electronics contain only grams or tens of grams of solder, and both are equally likely to end up in the environment. Ditto for lead used in bullets, which end up wherever people are shooting firearms.

[@shi01]

That's inherently wrong. It's nowhere mentioned at all if the cracked solder point was done with lead free solder or not. The accident happend in 2014. Lead free solder is mandatory in the EU since 2006. The plane was produced in 2008. It's entirely possible that the the PCB in question was still soldered with lead solder, because you don't know when the PCB was produced and you don't know how much stock of leaded solder the manufacturer had. Also, the health issue with lead in solder is not so much that it can "leak" into the envirement. No, the main issue is the lead gases that are produced during soldering and which you can inhale directly, which is really bad. Inhaling lead is pretty much the fastest way to get lead poisoning. Yes, lead free solder is harder to work with. But it's far from problematic. Especially with automated soldering machines it's hardly a problem at all.

[@humpheryflaubert8172]

"Ditto for lead used in bul-", its FMJ or nothing!

[@spruce14]

what flight sim do u use? its pretty realistic! also keep up the high quality work

[@bilgyno1]

Such complacency with a recurring issue. The captain knew that resetting the circuit breaker didn't fix it 3 days earlier. So why try this in flight? But even earlier: if after the 'fix' of changing the controller the problem pops up again, it should have been a huge red flag. Turn around and land... Or at least contact technical support.

[@danielkaufmann15]

I missed an important point in my first comment. A stall allert or stick shaker activation means always, without any exclusion, to pull the nose down, not up. Even the dumpest pilot is knowing this. The only excuse would be malfunction of the pitot tube's.

[@Deadbeatbeats]

Sadly, panic can erase all kinds of knowledge and experience

[@danielkaufmann15]

@@Deadbeatbeats yes. You are right. In this case can only more flight simulator training help, until you can manage this situation while you asleep. Both pilots failed hard, the 1st. Officer pulled up, (deadly decision) the Pilot pulled down, but never pushed the "priority" button. The flight stick in an Airbus is designed like in each other plane. Push forward means nose down, backwards means nose up. Stall means nose down. I'm still puzzling why this happened. (Didn't mean you in this case, we Germans say often "you" and meaning it only as an example)

[@Deadbeatbeats]

@@danielkaufmann15 the only pilot experience I have is from Arma 2 and even I know that pulling back wont make you recover from a stall. Flight times dont really count for anything If all your hours are smooth sailing

[@danielkaufmann15]

@@Deadbeatbeats Therefore I said, training, training and more training. You have to be familiar with this situations. With a flight simulator, I mean a simulator like the big airlines have. Not a software running on a PC. 😊

[@MatyasArby]

push

[@bigwaidave4865]

Seems like airbus has to get its shit together with these side sticks. Same exact situation happen with Air France on the flight from Rio de Janeiro? Hopefully they have resolved this horrible engineering defect.

[@GBOAC]

WIth tens of thousands of planes flying with sidesticks everyday and 2 incidents you may be drawing an exaggerated conclusion here.

[@pppooppoo7763]

@@GBOACand linked controls have never been a factor in a crash. Clearly, averaging controls can cause confusion in an already tense situation with a bad crew. Only causing two crashes does not mean it cannot be problematic.

[@ralfhartmann8601]

The horrible defect were in both cases the pilots, which does not understand how to fly the plane without the (full) help of the computer. It resolves automatically...

[@akaluke1]

It baffles me that they just replaced what they thought was a faulty part and then sent the plan on its way WITHOUT determining the root cause of the failure.

[@ralfhartmann8601]

Also ground staff could be incompetent...

[@I___Am]

Determining the root causes is hassle and needs deep inspection, and of course, it's not cheap, I bet many companies don't want to do that. It takes days or even months to do the inspection, you'll be surprised that they only do a "simple" check and troubleshoot with many problems within the aircraft. For example, the battery problems case on boeing if my memory is not wrong, I forgot the detail, but you can search Boeing aircraft battery problems, it takes them a long time to truly inspect the aircraft from the first problem.

[@rocsmithhoe]

I love the narration on all these videos

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks!

[@timothymarchant]

Why no blame to the first officer? That was pretty dumb input from his side.

[@jamesgraham6122]

The first officer must have got his licence from collecting vouchers having bought the required number of Big Macs..

[@mmontgomery383]

😅😅😅😅😅😅 collecting vouchers!!! LMAO!!!!

[@ralfhartmann8601]

so the captain, but one voucher more

[@piotrmirek25]

diversity hire

[@samhhaincat2703]

@@piotrmirek25 Wow, no need to be a racist a**hole. ALL people fuck up, we're humans. Jeez.

[@elizaalden]

He's black growing eatin too much dust in Africa ruined his brain logic.

[@HalimWander]

most safest transportation..and yet you couldn't survive the impact whenever a plane crash on land neither on the sea

[@AlexBesogonov]

48-degree AoA is perfectly recoverable on Airbus. It does not experience a stable stall like aircraft with T-shaped tail. All the needed to do was to push the nose down, regain the airspeed, and then fix the attitude.

[@danielkaufmann15]

He was under alternate law. 😕

[@adamw.8579]

@@danielkaufmann15 So, it is full manual mode. They should know how to pilot aircraft manually.

[@danielkaufmann15]

@@adamw.8579 yes, you're right. 😊 I just tried to explain, that the recovery was not so easy like normally. If you ask me, it's a sign of unprofessional behavior to push the stick back and not forward in the case of a stall. But you are absolutely right.

[@adamw.8579]

@@danielkaufmann15 Normal recovery in Airbus is "don't touch anything" and aircraft will resolve problem itself. Usually if evertyhing works fine. As automation engineer I may add some comment - if pilot reset fuses one by one with some delay probably all will be OK and flight computers will keep working properly, big mistake was cut power to both systems at once and leave flight system totally broken.

[@danielkaufmann15]

@@adamw.8579 yes, but not in alternate law. That's the reason why I mentioned this fact. The fail save protection simply doesn't work in alternate law. And yes, it was a horrible mistake to use the switches. I'm 100% on your side, English is not my first language, maybe that's the reason for our confusion.

[@shark11175]

Best plane channel on KZbin

[@MidnightPodcast]

The 3 Golden Rules: 1. Pick a great airline. 2. Fly over land as much as possible. 3. Break up your trip.

[@stonecold9132]

Why is land safer. Also breaking trip usually means more risk in take off and landing

[@MidnightPodcast]

@@stonecold9132 If I have to point out the reason to you why that is, and if you believe the take off and landing theory like every other sheep does, then mate, fly over water LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, may the force be with you. I'm sticking to 80% over land.

[@stonecold9132]

@@MidnightPodcast chill bro. Just wanted to see your 'constructive' reply

[@MidnightPodcast]

@@stonecold9132 Piss off. You know exactly what you were doing. Fly over water bro. Go. Do it. Do it for 14 hours straight. No worries at all.

[@jet_aviation]

As an aircraft engineer, I make it a habit to watch aircrash investigations once in a while to remind myself the consequences of me fvcking up and finding out. Sometimes, due to one working with aircrafts for some time now, you get complacent (like pulling C/Bs without even understanding the whole framework/system principle of how it works fully and its interconnected systems). Videos like these keep us in check, it's thought provoking. Even during my trainee days, EASA regulations forced us to watch these videos to the point where we have this spoken unwritten norm of a rule that says: "are you confident enough to let your loved ones fly in the aircraft you have worked on?"

[@slats8376]

This reminds me of Air France 447. First officer had stick back the whole time not known to the captain until the last minute. Amazing to think qualified pilots do not recognise stall characteristics and recovery. But in all fairness in the heat of the moment we will never know.

[@shane5431]

Such a great channel, need more videos🙏🏾

[@hoteny]

okay i wanted to be an exchange student and now im not so sure anymore after finding your channel .-.

[@rx3dn]

Why are you unsure now?

[@l3dukas869]

Accidents are inevitable. Don't let that put you off from your dreams :)

[@tullo5564]

Choose a different career please

[@awehellnah]

airlines learn and develop from accidents like these to make sure they never happen again.

[@tullo5564]

@@awehellnah Yet still, they happen. That's why one should always choose a safer career when they have a choice.

[@Armor_of_Torrent]

I don't have any experience with air stuff but even I know and computer reset during a flight might not be the best thing to do

[@LumbridgeTeleport]

Well made video! 🎉

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks!

[@doggonemess1]

You know, I've heard more than one of these stories and just think, if you're in bad weather, the plane is banking and you need to correct - wouldn't any pilot just look at the flight instruments to figure out when they were level? There must be a dozen of these events where a pilot goes into "gut feeling" mode instead of just looking at their gauges and getting the aircraft flying clean. It's destressing to think about.

[@GooseGumlizzard]

they totally panicked, probably didn't look at the instruments at all. Incompetent boobs.

[@greenerell484]

this is quite well put together

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks!

[@user-oc4hh5bh9z]

As a commercial pilot myself, I would've declared a PAN, PAN and landed at the nearest and suitable airport after the second ECAM message...

[@rc70ys]

PULL DOWN ? PULL DOWN ? What a 🤡

[@mochamadnurdin5978]

Good video.

[@Aviationaccidents]

Thanks!

[@Musclman78TA1]

Although it’s sad and tragic I find it interesting watching Air Disasters and cave diving tragedy’s caused by human error.

[@toiletpapermerchant9310]

Goes to show no matter how expensive or fancy your aircraft may be, they still use simple and cheap solder for PCBs which are not durable in the long run.

[@dorianhak7206]

You´re like disaster breakdown but with a more dramatic style (Can you do pulkovo 612 on your next vid?)

[@Aviationaccidents]

Will put that one on the list!

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

Haven’t we heard a very similar scenario with Air France 447? FO continuing to pull up on side stick all the way through a stall until impacting the sea. Why..just why