Fatalis Great Sword Guide: Openings & Survival Tips [MHW:IB]

[@kimmi4242]

An explanation about how to position and predict Fatty's attacks I gave as an answer for anyone curious. Question: How do you distance yourself? I find it hard to predict what Fatalis is gonna do next Answer: In short, stand right in front of his head, slighty to the side. To predict what attack he does, listen to Audio Cues and look at attack animation. To punish effectively and not cart, don't attack Fatty indiscriminately. Identify Fatty's attack and react accordingly by evading or punishing as shown in the video. Long explanation: Typically, it's best to stand right in front of his head, slighty to the right or left. You can see me doing this in the "Small Openings" section. This position is great because 1) it allows you to quickly go into any of the positions needed for the punishes showed in the video, 2) allows you to reposition into a safe zone, and 3) you can bait attacks like the Cone. Most of the time, rather than predicting, you react to what attack the monster starts and act accordingly by either evading or punishing. But to have enough time for that decision, you'll need to know what attack the monster is initiating. To quickly identify what attack the monster starts, you can look at the Attack Animation, or listen to the Audio Cues. Best way to learn this is by practice. To get a feel for it, you can go solo into the quest, leave your palico behind, and turn your music volume down. Run around the monster without attacking, and just listen and look at what the monster does. If you prefer, I also have videos for both Audio Cues (Fatalis Audio Cues) and attack animations (Moveset Guide) in my channel. Going into more detail, looking at what state Fatty is in will help you narrow down what moves he can do. This is where knowledge about Fatty's attack patterns are required. These states are 2 legs stance/4 legs stance/aeriel/platform/bunker/mount, current Phase, and enraged/non-enraged. Most important are 2 legs and 4 legs stance, and most attacks are exlusive to one of them. For example, Fatty can only do the Charged Fireball on 4 legs and Cone on 2 legs. Enrage state changes a few moves. For example when enraged, Fatty flies after a Charged Fireball, and Triple Fireballs deals more dmg and gets a larger blast radius. What Phase you are in also changes some attacks and add new ones. Player position also matters for what attack Fatty is allowed to do. He'll only initiate an attack, if the target is within the attack range when the attack animation begins. For example, Fatty will only do a cone if you (or your teammates) stand in front of him, but not if you stand besides or behind him. By knowing Fatty's state and player position, you can narrow down the possible attacks Fatty can do to only a few. If you wanna learn more about attack patterns of all Fatty's attack, I've shown most in my Fatalis Moveset Guide. For even more detail, you can anticipate what attacks Fatty will do based on who he is targeting. Unless you play solo, Fatty will constantly shift his target around on all players and palicos. If you see who Fatty is targeting, you can use Fatty's current state and the target's position relative to Fatty to predict his next attack. For example, Fatty stands on 2 legs and attacks you. Your teammate runs around at the other side of the arena. Suddenly, Fatty turns around and faces towards your teammate. With that in mind, Fatty can only do one of 5 attacks: The Cone, Single Fireball, Triple Fireball, Line Explosion, or Charge attack. If he does the Cone, you might wanna try helping your teammate. Using above information, you can predict or "bait" an attack. Let's look at a scenario as an example. It's Phase 1. Fatty stands on 2 legs and is enraged. You stand right in front of him, about a roll away from his head. From this position, Fatty can do the following attacks: Forward Flame, Single Fireball, Triple Fireball, Line Explosion, Charge, Zigzag Flame, and Cone. Fatty starts his attack, where he takes his head back and does a "breath in" Audio Cue. This indicates Single Fireball or Triple Fireball. You run towards his chest and under his head for the safezone, and for an eventual punish. He shoots the first fireball and continues for another fireball. This indicates the attack is Triple Fireball, and you punish his head as shown in the video. For me, most punishes follow this logic. If you know all of this information, you can go even further and take a gamble. Unlike the openings shown in the video, these punishes are not entirely reaction based and relies on luck. For example, if you stand behind Fatty and he does a Tail Slam, he will sometimes slowly turn around after the attack. So with good position, you can roll to the side to evade the Tail Slam and prepare TCS with Slinger Burst. If he turns around slowly, you can land a TCS on his head.

[@Tomix4k]

Wow all this information is really good. You should make a Fatalis Great Sword Guide video about it!

[@Alternum]

The amount of work required to put out something of this quality is phenomenal. The way things get explained/shown has made me reconsider how I presented stuff in guides I've made. I've been sharing this video whenever I can, it's criminal how low the view count is. I hope it gets the visibility it deserves, if not just so that people can understand and appreciate what an actually good matchup guide looks like. Your hard work is definitely appreciated by everyone who's seen this!

[@witny0]

Wow, i was using your guide as reference for learning ig vs fatalis and what a coincidence seeing u here as im learning the gs matchup atm

[@kimmi4242]

Thanks for the kind words, it makes me happy to hear that! I also appreciate the time and effort you took in making your IG guide 😄 it's one of the better Fatty guides out there!

[@elalexsantos3150]

Commenting again to let you know that your video single-handedly helped me improve my performance with this fight! Your guides are seriously so underrated but I’m glad this video popped up in my recommended a few weeks ago :) I hope to be able to sub-10 Fatalis someday!

[@petercho546]

Man I cannot imagine how long this took to make. Fantastic video.

[@yado2217]

It's ALWAYS the

[@kimmi4242]

Thank you! 😁

[@GozzerP]

this is 100 times better than any gs guide i’ve ever seen

[@bull3t209]

Those survival tips are so good. Even though I use the tackle sideblow combo to double TCSs punish the head break knockdown, I never thought to use it defensively

[@ajufhngnfgbj]

only video i found of the p2 smoke bomb snipe you're a legend

[@Excuzuu]

One of the things i figured out by myself is that you sheathe your weapon faster when you roll forward rather than sideways/backwards after an attack, that way you have time to superman dive when he does the charged fireball/fly combo. I learned it the hard way after I kept getting carted by that attack when I punish his small openings/big bites while on his 4 legs.

[@kimmi4242]

Ooh I didn't know that! Thanks for sharing 😁

[@aldinocaesar]

using GS against fatalis without watching any youtube guide about how to punish fatalis attacks beforehand is a true nightmare

[@namaco2201]

Knowing how to bait and punish cones is a blessing lol Though I think GS headsnipes are insanely good against fatalis and a good GS player will figure things out quickly but I'm not a GS player so it's still painful for me haha

[@eduardosolistinoco9698]

Agreed, already went trough about 10 hours of attempts and I believe even my best 2 runs that ended with timeouts weren't that close to slaying Fatty, those openings are hard to identify while in the heat of combat

[@elalexsantos3150]

I’ve recently started a new character who only uses GS and it’s literally a different game compared to my main weapon (LS). I’m genuinely having so much fun having to learn monster attacks and positioning. I hope to someday be as good as you are at analysing monster moves 👍🏼

[@LoncusZhao]

Everything you've put out is sheer gold.

[@kimmi4242]

I'm glad you enjoy it :D

[@Ehjookayted]

Insanely high quality content. Fantastic job! The definitive GS guide for Fatty for sure. Also, I saw in the desc. you're planning an extension video. Would love to help out in some way if you think adding voiceover/commentary would be beneficial

[@kimmi4242]

Thank you! Yes, I have completed most of the work for the video, but still need to do some research for certain openings or mechanics. Adding voice over would be cool, but I would have to chance my video format somewhat (and delay the video more than I already have xD). I appreciate the offer though 😊

[@kal.8548]

great guide! very well done and it really shows the dedication and effort you put in. thank you for this 🙏

[@kimmi4242]

Thanks a lot!

[@azukipaisen]

Incredibly underrated, please algorithm do your job

[@Jesse-vvv]

Yo I love this video it goes over everything important, ur amazing

[@SolStryker]

I got my first clear after maybe 15 hours of attempts with help from your guide, and I managed to do it without resorting to fatty gear, temporal, or rocksteady. I still can't do any of the headsnipes LOL but I got a much better idea of where to stand and how long each opening is from your video. I also didn't know about the rolling draw slash being faster. Just wanted to express my appreciation for a high quality guide!

[@impeter3719]

I remember you guys, Nell and Kimmi. I've killed Fatalis liked 1500 times but still haven't learned GS, so this is a good starting point cheers!

[@SappleMyrup]

Really love the guide! Been practicing GS with Fatalis and this video helped and gave so much new insight :)

[@meepmeep9943]

insanely underrated guide, well done man

[@kimmi4242]

Thank you!

[@Greattjagras]

This is amazing guide book I wish you got 10k+++ subs , thanks for sharing 👏

[@kimmi4242]

Thank you! 😁

[@del6553]

this is such a great video, good job!

[@Flex08320]

Thanks for your dedicated work helping us all there ! really amazingly crafted guide !

[@kimmi4242]

Thaaanks a lot! 🐱

[@senaji498]

i dont even play gs but this was fun to watch, even learned a couple of things

[@needle_t0es]

Kimmi you are legendary! I'm looking forward to your other weapon guides!

[@kimmi4242]

Thanks a lot Needle!

[@witny0]

Thanks for the guide! Ornitier sent me here.

[@kimmi4242]

Haha, thanks for watching 😊

[@Ashuralndra]

This is a great video thank you

[@Rin_mh]

Best guide I’ve seen

[@Rin_mh]

Could you do one for other monsters would really help

[@Rin_mh]

I’m not really good at gs

[@chococake1215]

21:50 If you're early on the knockdown (usually happens when your team breaks the head), you can sneak in a LV 2 strong charge slash. LV 1 charge slash -> LV 2 strong charge slash -> Lv 3 TCS -> roll tackle -> side blow -> slinger burst -> Lv 3 TCS. It's a small 29 motion value advantage (250~ more damage?). It only works during phase 1 and 2, when you break Fatalis' head during phase 3, she recovers 1~ second faster. Also I didn't know when you spam draw slash after a roll it would come out slower! I was wondering why it was so inconsistent. Thanks for the guide!

[@kimmi4242]

You right! I'm glad you learned something too x)

[@lordbruh3307]

Your video helped me finish my fatalis video thank you so much😭🙏

[@veithkilbert4253]

The jazz raging brachy song is my favorite song ever! Great video, but no matter how many times I watch/ study it, I'll just be running around doing draw attacks lol,

[@reaper.exe.]

absolute amazing video might be top 5 mhw videos oat im serious, u underrated as hellll, also if its not too much issue could u drop ur build please ❤

[@kimmi4242]

Thank you! I've put my build in my steam guide under the section "Final Builds". You can see a link to the guide in the video description

[@reaper.exe.]

@ thank you so much and i been recommending ur videos to other hunters bc its js so helpful and well made❤️🙏🙏

[@namaco2201]

Really need more videos like this for all weapons. Not just about what to do with each moves but how to position yourself. Positioning indicators here are insanely helpful for GS players. Im mainly a hammer player but whacking Fatty's head with GS feels awesome. Im not a speedrunner but Im hoping to get a fast time with GS so this is very helpful, thanks!

[@noxusalwayswin3248]

GOAT

[@thugstoolsnn]

Thanks for making a guide

[@kimmi4242]

Thank you too Pongga!

[@bedroomblue5947]

Me learning the GS ways anew! (*o*)

[@SerdarAkkilic]

very nice thank you.

[@jackstokes5967]

yo, great vid.

[@kimmi4242]

Thank you!

[@pokokuyo51]

How can i know if the firesweep is going forward or backward? Another question,just to make sure,fatalis doesn't have stationary firesweep right(like alatreon's fire sweep)?

[@kimmi4242]

What determines whether Fatty walks forward or backwards is dependant on Fatty's distance to the target. If target is far away, Fatty walks forward. If target is close, Fatty backwalks On 4 legs, it is not possible for Fatty to do the Firesweep stationary. He may back up into a corner, in which he appears to be stationary. Fatty does have another version of Firesweep on 2 legs, where he is stationary. Fatty will only do this attack if the target stands on the Cannon platform, or the Dragonator Platform. More in depth: There is a specific distance for this. In code, the cutoff is 1000 units. If the target is less than 1000 units away, Fatty will walk backwards. Distance is a bit hard to measure in game, so I will use Fatty as a measurement. The distance between his crotch and his ear flaps is about 1000 units. The cutoff for Firesweep is 2500 units. So from his head, imagine the cutoff is about 1 and a half Fattys away.

[@AomineDaiki_Zone]

6:00 the zigzag flame tcs is too inconsistent for me most of the time hitting the chest or being too late. Is there a way to improve?

[@kimmi4242]

If it's only the timing that needs improvement, then I think you just need some more practice to get consistent. If not already, it might be helpful for you to look for a sign on Fatty for when to let go of the TCS. In my video, I use his forearms touching the ground as a sign. I let go just before his second forearm touches the ground. But feel free to do some micro adjustments, as we all can have different reaction speed for recognising the sign (or game/input lag) and letting go of the attack button.

[@AomineDaiki_Zone]

Is there a hint to know when the head will be at the end of the fire sweep? I always seem to get it by luck but miss most of the time

[@kimmi4242]

Do you mean the timing for when to let go of TCS? If so you can look at his head movement. After he stops spewing fire, his head will do a small turn to the opposite side, and then return to facing straight forward. Let go of the TCS when he his head hits the other side, just before it returns to a straight position.

[@AomineDaiki_Zone]

@@kimmi4242 my problem is to guess where the head will be after he finishes the fire sweep when doesnt have a wall behind him. I have the timing right but just miss

[@kimmi4242]

@@AomineDaiki_Zone when you miss, is it because you are standing too far away or too close to the head? Or are you missing bc you turned the attack too much to one of the sides? His head will end up a bit further back where his crotch is when his neck gets straight while spewing fire. Roll into his crotch at the latest when his neck straightens to have enough time for TCS3. Aim the TCS towards where Fatty's chest is after the draw slash (shortly after his neck gets straight) as shown in the video. His head will end up there. If it helps, you can see a top down perspective of the whole Fire Sweep attack in my Fatalis Moveset Guide video. Then you can compare where his head ends relative to any point, e.g., when his neck straightens.

[@AomineDaiki_Zone]

@@kimmi4242 my problem is I aim too much to one of the sides but I think your tips might solve it, THX :)

[@cernos7230]

How do you distance yourself? I find it hard to predict what Fatalis is gonna do next

[@kimmi4242]

In short, stand right in front of his head, slighty to the sides. To predict what attack he does, listen to Audi Cues and look at attack animation. Long explanation: Typically, it's best to stand right in front of his head, slighty to the right or left. You can see me doing this in the "Small Openings" section. This position is great because 1) it allows you to quickly go into any of the positions needed for the punishes showed in the video, 2) allows you to reposition into a safe zone, and 3) you can bait attacks like the Cone. Most of the time, rather than predicting, you react to what attack the monster starts and act accordingly by either evading or punishing. But to have enough time for that decision, you'll need to know what attack the monster is initiating. To quickly identify what attack the monster starts, you can look at the Attack Animation, or listen to the Audio Cues. Best way to learn this is by practice. To get a feel for it, you can go solo into the quest, leave your palico behind, and turn your music volume down. Run around the monster without attacking, and just listen and look at what the monster does. If you prefer, I also have videos for both Audio Cues (Fatalis Audio Cues) and attack animations (Moveset Guide) in my channel. Going into more detail, looking at what state Fatty is in will help you narrow down what moves he can do. This is where knowledge about Fatty's attack patterns are required. These states are 2 legs stance/4 legs stance/aeriel/platform/bunker/mount, current Phase, and enraged/non-enraged. Most important are 2 legs and 4 legs stance, and most attacks are exlusive to one of them. For example, Fatty can only do the Charged Fireball on 4 legs and Cone on 2 legs. Enrage state changes a few moves. For example when enraged, Fatty flies after a Charged Fireball, and Triple Fireballs deals more dmg and gets a larger blast radius. What Phase you are in also changes some attacks and add new ones. Player position also matters for what attack Fatty is allowed to do. He'll only initiate an attack, if the target is within the attack range when the attack animation begins. For example, Fatty will only do a cone if you (or your teamates) stand in front of him, but not if you stand besides or behind him. By knowing Fatty's state and player position, you can narrow down the possible attacks Fatty can do to only a few. If you wanna learn more about attack patterns of all Fatty's attack, I've shown most in my Fatalis Moveset Guide. For even more detail, you can anticipate what attacks Fatty will based on who he is targeting. Unless you play solo, Fatty will constantly shift his target around on all players and palicos. If you see who Fatty is targeting, you can use Fatty's current state and the target's position relative to Fatty to predict his next attack. For example, Fatty stands on 2 legs and attacks you. Your teammate runs around at the other side of the arena. Suddenly, Fatty turns around and faces towards your teammate. With that in mind, Fatty can only do one of 5 attacks: The Cone, Single Fireball, Triple Fireball, Line Explosion, or Charge attack. If he does the Cone, you might wanna try helping your teammate. Using above information, you can predict or "bait" an attack. Let's look at a scenario as an example. It's Phase 1. Fatty stands on 2 legs and is enraged. You stand right in front of him, about a roll away from his head. From this position, Fatty can do the following attacks: Forward Flame, Single Fireball, Triple Fireball, Line Explosion, Charge, Zigzag Flame, and Cone. Fatty starts his attack, where he takes his head back and does a "breath in" Audio Cue. This indicates Single Fireball or Triple Fireball. You run towards his chest and under his head for the safezone, and for an eventual punish. He shoots the first fireball and continues for another fireball. This indicates the attack is Triple Fireball, and you punish his head as shown in the video. For me, most punishes follow this logic. If you know all of this information, you can go even further and take a gamble. Unlike the openings shown in the video, these punishes are not entirely reaction based and relies on luck. For example, if you stand behind Fatty and he does a Tail Slam, he will sometimes slowly turn around after the attack. So with good position, you can roll to the side to evade the Tail Slam and prepare TCS with Slinger Burst. If he turns around slowly, you can land a TCS on his head.

[@nepmia]

sorry i am not smart enough to play great sword all i can do is use the helicopter stick

[@kimmi4242]

Just think of Great Sword as a slightly bigger helicopter stick, and you'll be fine ;)

[@nepmia]

@@kimmi4242 how does it work, big helicopter stick does not fly

[@kimmi4242]

@@nepmia use Glider Mantle and any weapon can become a flying stick!

[@nepmia]

@@kimmi4242 omg so true

[@1yu8omir]

Helicopter stick is the best 😤 I couldn't understand how people play it, but now it's my most used weapon xD

[@Serlock4869]

You can block his cone? That's awesome

[@kimmi4242]

Yeah you can block without any Guard or Guard up as long as you face towards the flames!

[@Alabalahama]

I hate cone baiting with gs, feels so cheap. But learning every opening is insanely hard, you have to invest into this like it's some sort of a part time job. Fuck me... punishing zigzag is really hard

[@slopeplemonsterhunterlimin1140]

Hmmmm... gremsord

[@kimmi4242]

Gremsord >:3

[@ornitier3695]

Thank you very much for making this guide! It feels that a lot of hardwork and care into making it! May I have your discord for talking purpose? My comments kept getting deleted by auto filter it seems..

[@kimmi4242]

Thanks for the kind words :D. How weird, I haven't received any comments in my filter either. My discord username is nobodyasme. Though I'm usually not that active there x)

[@RakiAlhazmi]

very helpful thank you, i'm working on my zigzag flame timing 🫡