FatBeeMan 1 Minute Tip- Wintergreen Oil kills Mites

[@stevenshields2386]

As a new bee keeper, I look to the Fatbeeman for his vast knowledge.

[@thehomesteadinoregon8000]

I just purchase a Burgess Propane Powered Fogger, I purchased it on Amazon. I am going for the Wintergreen / Mineral Oil combo. One of our local bee veterans here in Oregon said this works well for him. I do not have any mites that I can visually see but I am doing this for maintenance only.

[@SAGERODS250REM]

Interesting video, 52 degrees is nice shorts and t shirt weather where I live. Cheers from northern Saskatchewan Canada.

[@TheManNoName]

I love that 52 degrees is cold.. we love sunny days at 50+ temps in Washington. Stay warm Bee Man I love the videos. .

[@simplifygardening]

Hi I am looking for the connection size for the propane as I am struggling to find the cylinders in the uk. any ideas

[@davidmiller3804]

Hi Don. I love watching your videos, they help a lot. Is there a concern about treating mites in the summer heat with oxalic acid?

[@thisissoeasy]

Hey Don, you are an amazingly good teacher... If I learn any more from you, I will become serious competition... Cheers from Outback Australia, Rolf (Thanks also to the students who make these excellent videos!)

[@gregthomas8334]

Interesting video but this does not work at controlling mites.

[@JnJShiffler]

I wish you were my grandpa Don !! But it's Essential Oils, not essence of oils ! You crack me up! Thanks for all the tips!

[@popsknows5648]

I tell every one that buys bees from me to google your videos here on you tube. I was tought by my great grandfather to never feed them sugar and keep them pest free with natural and beneficial. Just like the rough sand and planting garlic to control beetles. I grow mint and have found that if I see one mite or beetle just laying three sprigs across the hole on the top of the inner cover three days later there will be 0 pest in the hive. I have a video I need to share on that to. Thank you

[@mrmolasses5366]

you can use QA too if your trying to be natural because QA comes from plants and stuff

[@JnJShiffler]

what is QA?

[@ME_MeAndMyBees]

It's Oxalic Acid

[@antonsteger4842]

Hi Don,Have you ever tried oxalic acid and mineral oil in your vaporizer, and if you did what was your mix?thanks, tony aka tonysbees Also,met you last October for about an hour. Enjoyed every min. of our chat.You are a Master Beekeeper and don't let anybody tell you different !

[@adamrahim1257]

Did Don get back with you. Oxyclic acid will dissolve in water or alcohol. I was wondering which is better for the OA. a fogger or vaporizer both seem to cost the same.

[@jamesshrum3755]

He answers someone else on this vid saying it’s a bad idea

[@rodneymull805]

Hi Don can you use tea tree oil instead of wintergreen oil in the fogger?

[@graemehunter8909]

Hi have used this mix in my fogger and very happy with it.To day (May 11th 2018) it's the end of autumn down here in New Zealand and I'm cleaning out the mites for winter with Wintergreen oil and Mineral oil mix. I found one of my hives being robbed, I fogged the hive and also fogged the robbing bees big time they were wet. Closed down the entry hole to about 3/8in, walk away to clean up the fogger,about 15 min later I found all the bees beading on the front of the hive and with in the hour ( I opened up the entry a bit) they had all moved into the hive, they are a mixture of bee types THE ROBBING WAS OVER. the hive seems to be back as it should be, bees in bees out. I have a question that you my be able to answer. Did the fogging with wintergreen oil and mineral oil mess with the robbing bees, as to were there home is, and they now think my hive is home? there are so many bees in the hive I can not see the bottom board when looking in through the bee enty hole. Regards Graeme Hunter

[@michellemerlo3744]

The only thing I can think of is that maybe the scent of the wintergreen masked the different pheromones of the robbers and they ended up quickly picking up the scent of your hive as the fog settled?

[@darrylgabritsch9110]

Hi Don, Love the videos and private lesson. Do you do the fogger treatments all year? I have a major Varroa mite problem. The state bee inspector said it was 5 times the acceptable limit. I purchased the oil, fogger and mineral oil already. It's 5 July now. Can you use the fogger/wintergreen mix with honey on the hive, or would I need to remove the supers? Thank you.

[@tch450r]

This is supposed to be safe for bees and honey, however it only treats the bees in the hive, I usually wait till dusk to treat mine so most will be back in the hive. you can treat every 2 weeks through the spring, summer, and fall. avoid fogging them when the temperatures are too cold for them to fly as they will be clustered.

[@chan108dra]

Thank you nice bee man, your tips are very good, perhaps you could kindly tell us your food grade mineral oil supplier.thank you

[@rechellianos2049]

really hard to know what to treat with. some say it works some say it does not. after doing this it would really be helpful to see a sticky board before and after. as for now i have to experiment on a hive and see if it works.pretty time consuming.... on the other hand if ppl are posting the vids it would help us all out so much to see the aftermath of these natural treatment. thanks for ur time Don posting..

[@Majorme2]

Don 50 degree weather is not freezing........... I enjoy sunny days here in oregon in the 50's..... thanks for your KZbins . I tell a lot of new bee keepers ( like myself) to view your stuff to get a different aspect of bee keeping

[@6969smurfy]

hello Don, is this still a relevant video or is there something better nowa days, Thanks

[@wingnut1941]

Hi Don, Love your videos - very informative and to the point. I would like to ask how often you use the fogger with the FGMO and wintergreen oil mix and at what time of the year? Thanks and thumbs up! Larry

[@kennystandridge58]

Don, great video, if your only treating 3 or 4 hives, do you still mix 15 drops of wintergreen oil to 16oz's of mineral oil? If I treat every 21 days ( starting in the spring) do I need to fog every 21 days all summer long?Thanks, have a great day. .

[@anne-christinemarcou4481]

APPRECIATE YOUR ADVICE ON OILS..THANK YOU TAKE CARE..I USED THE DRIED LEAVES OF GRAPEFRUIT TREE LEAVES OILS IN FUMER HAVE THE SAME EFFECT WITH SUCESS.TAKE CARE ALSO FOR MITES..TAKE CARE ATH.GREECE

[@raymonddrejka5480]

I would like to know which foggers you would recommend for use with the bees. Many I have looked at on the internet are rated moderate to poor.. I would rather purchase a fogger that will last. Ray Drejka

[@pauldean330]

You can get the Bergess propane fogger at walmart for $58, I use it and it works great.

[@kathyvalentine9408]

i went there they have to be special ordered at my store

[@MrJimmyd7777]

Don, can you please indicate how much mineral oil is used in the fogger? I assume this is mixed with water? Thanks so much.

[@eisbar3664]

Hi Don, please can you tell me who is the producer of this fogger and which model it is?

[@rodneymull805]

+Eisbär Burgess 1443 Propane Insect Fogger. you can get at amazon for $60.00

[@eisbar3664]

THX

[@eieio-mn9pm]

52 here in Montana .... sure glad the earth warmed up a bit

[@rjrice4940]

Thank you. Could we switch up the mineral oil/wintergreen with the powder sugar and garlic dusting? Any thoughts on making a sugar/grease patty with wintergreen? How many drops ? I am a new beekeeper with one hive. I appreciate your videos. Blessings

[@Swallowthemoon2]

Do you just do it once, or several days in a row?

[@sylviehorgan5498]

I read somewhere that bees do not like spearmint and you would use it to kill the mite in the beehives with the bees inside?

[@erikmiller1787]

Don, Do you have a how to video of emulsifying essential oil to add to your spring feed? I stumbled upon a podcast that you did with Organically Managed Beekeeping. you guys talked about it, I'd love to hear more. Also the podcast was great, I'm glad you did it. Thanks

[@jamesmarshall3261]

Don, I have a hive with mites. There are dead mites tucked into some of the empty comb. I'm in Arkansas, Northwest Corner. My question is how much fogging is to much? And can I call the bees with to much Winter Green?

[@laurenbutler8620]

I have found that STE Oil is a great supplier. They are knowledgable about mineral and also the effect that it has on the mites.

[@larrysheltmire5358]

Hi Don, can you fog with wintergreen when honey is on the hive for human consumption? Thanks Larry

[@mrmolasses5366]

well yes you wouldn't be hurt it might taste like winter green and mineral oil which is a laxative so i wouldn't if i was selling it but if you want it for yourself then go right ahead

[@kelsaycarlander]

I'm unsure how much mineral oil I'm supposed to use!!! Please help. Do I mIx it with water ?

[@kevinjackson1840]

don here in middle California it is 27 this morning great video will try this next week

[@Dave-jc6ky]

I'm not sure its considered organic but I have seen you have used oxalic acid in the pan type vaporizer. Do you know if it can be used in the fogger with oxalic acid and the mineral oil or other liquid. Perhaps with the addition of the wintergreen oil? I know you're real busy so I appreciate your time and input on this!

[@fineshooter]

we have used OA in a fogger but not as good as the vaporizer

[@Dave-jc6ky]

Ok thanks! I wasn't sure which method was the most effective. Could I ask which liquid you used as a base to add the OA to when you used it in the fogger? As always I appreciate your time and input with the ?'s

[@shannonthorne5785]

David Hershberger I watched a video last night and the man mixed everclear alcohol with the OA to fog. He said moonshine would work well too. 80% or higher drinking alcohol.

[@WilliamMcNett]

did some measuring a couple weeks ago when I was mixing up syrup. 15 drops out of those 1 oz / 15 ml bottles is a nice level or a drop under 1/8 tsp.

[@PMineo1803]

Did I hear you say you are teaching students organic pest control but don't always practice it yourself? Or did I not hear correctly. Sounded like you said you treat 2 Times a year? Treating with what...the essential oils or something else. Please clarify. Thanks.

[@fineshooter]

I teach commercial beekeeping so I teach lot of ways

[@PMineo1803]

Don The Fat Bee Man got it! Thanks for the quick response.

[@jenellesnow6350]

How often? During the summer? Top bar hives?

[@DavidWilliams-wr4wb]

I don’t really want to use oxalic acid, if I use mineral oil and spearmint can I use that alone as a mite treatment ? Has it been effective for you ? I have drone frames and plan on brood breaks too , as of now in 8 medium sized colonies I have zero mites after my last test

[@lynnhayner8180]

Where do you get that vaporizer?

[@FarmerC.J.]

Do you have a book on bee keeping?

[@b8hovenusa]

I wished you would live near me. Need a mentor. I have two bee hives and I have trouble with what to use. Fogger or other? I want to add two more hives but am having a hard time.

[@christinemcdonald8705]

Have any of your hive ever had AFB? The only thing I can find about it is you burn the hive.

[@fineshooter]

I have never had it but if I did I would burn no cure for it

[@sheilamclaughlin963]

The fda just approved a vacanation or a preventative for it, one of the schools in Utah deve lop ed it

[@wuthirunpatrawong3611]

Can I use only Wintergreen oil or Thyme oil and vaporize hive ? If yes how long/often vaporizer per hive. Thank you.

[@waynetollison3952]

Hi Don can I use this with honey supers on THANKS

[@wendysmith5986]

I just found 21 mites in my pollen trap. Is it time to treat?

[@noahriding5780]

Will people with respiratory problems be able to use this kind of treatment?

[@oleymcneely1243]

how long should you wait to fog package bees they are flying

[@younginsong4355]

Thank you. How about cinnamon oil? Would you mind trying it?

[@k2katster]

If the bees are bringing in nectar from spearmint, would that be effective? our bees are all over our spearmint. It would make my day to find out that they didn't need a treatment at all then.

[@10X_Brain_Time]

Where do the Mites come from , i know Queen will not lay Mite Eggs ..

[@savethebee8561]

How many drops of of peppermint or tee tree oil should I add to the mineral oil in the fogger container?

[@savethebee8561]

Don, I didn't find any spearmint at the store as you said you use. I have essential oil of peppermint though. Can I use that? I also have pure tee tree oil. What can that do for me?

[@SansaStarkofWinterfell]

+Keith Kanyeshna If you still have not found spearmint EO, you can purchase some from Eden's Garden either their site or on Amazon. They have 5 ml, 10 ml and 30 ml bottles of it. As well as many other Essential oils. =)

[@savethebee8561]

Thanks.

[@JnJShiffler]

I think peppermint is a repellent of bees, used in some fume board sprays .

[@KreativeKP]

Whole Foods is my source. It's in small bottles, but it's all I need for my five hives.

[@dannymedford1564]

I saw the oils in a GNC store.

[@stephen26448]

Does this mean your honey is going to be wintergreen

[@LaurieDotson]

great information! thank you!

[@mind.your.own.beeswax5416]

What about smoking the hive with mint leaves as smoker fuel for mite control?

[@Krowmobe]

Would food grade thyme oil work as well ? The thymol in it.

[@kennylecroy9706]

Can this be used in December ?

[@davidtalley1791]

Hey Don, It's August 16 and the temps in the high 80's to low 90's. One of my hives has a mite problem (30+ in 24 Hours). Can I fog now or do I need to wait for cooler temp? Would it be better to wait for cooler temp and use a Mite Away Quik Strip? Thanks

[@fineshooter]

I would use O A is fine in hot weather and its faster and 100% kill

[@jimmywilliams6367]

@@fineshooter what's OA? I'm new at this trying to let before I get my bees. Thanks I enjoy y vids

[@zebra61]

Laxative? How will I know if my bees are constipated? If they're actually constipated, should I move the hive closer to crops that tend to be more fibrous? I'm new to beekeeping so please forgive my dumb questions....

[@mrmolasses5366]

i cant tell if your joking

[@MarinePrepper]

awesome information ill be contacting you soon ty again for your time

[@debbiecomeau820]

how often would be safe to do this treatment? weekly?

[@aboriginal44]

HI Don, what is Your opinion about putting OA with mineral oil in fogger? Would it be effective? Thank You

[@fineshooter]

+milan ladiha [I would not do that

[@aboriginal44]

thank You!

[@PopleBackyardFarm]

enjoying this thank you :)

[@alioman26]

Thanks for sharing this video

[@stevesoutdoorworld4340]

Where do you buy your oils?

[@johnfleming7879]

what are the effects on bees?

[@fineshooter]

yeah old men get cold here. Don

[@lenoretalon9958]

Don The Fat Bee Man 😂💕

[@fineshooter]

glad your in joying them. Don

[@jackbquick123]

What about peppermint oil? I messed up and put a few drops of peppermint oil in with wintergreen,, will that be ok? Thanks so much for all the info.

[@jackbquick123]

Well I found out it's a repellent so wrong move but it's been a couple of weeks and they didn't die or move but will wash out fogger. Learn from mistakes I guess

[@jasminmaldonado4984]

I am not if that info is correct. Spearmint is a hybrid of peppermint and other mint. I hear peppermint repels ants.

[@beeleb4186]

Hello fat bee man.i want to ask about how to control AFB and EFB what is the best treatment? And do you recommend the caspian solution for treatememt? Is it effective? Thank you

[@fineshooter]

+bee leb =I am not big on treating AFB or EFB=I would burn it

[@JnJShiffler]

I am new but EFB with antibiotics you now need a vet prescription for. Our one association sends pallets of equipment to get irradiated with gamma radiation and that cleans it all up and even alters trapped pesticides and some chemicals in the was to make less harmful. Info on the montgomery county beekeepers association of PA webpage.

[@deiseldes1]

I have seen some info on foul brood regards colloidal silver , Plus when j hear of foul brood ,spores are present which says to me fungal . Maybe worth looking into ?

[@timothypitts484]

My bees are dying after I used mite away, why ?

[@MontaManzeliano]

more info please

[@amathonn]

Varroa mites or Tracheal mites?

[@FenyEro]

How long time what kill the mites?

[@fineshooter]

I will do more videos. Don

[@Classicalguitarist22]

We get days in january where its -20 degrees fahrenheit

[@fineshooter]

any time the bees are flying you can use it. Don

[@kathyvalentine9408]

don where can i buy the mineral oil

[@JnJShiffler]

anywhere, grocery , pharmacies, cvs, rite aid, everywhere. Plain mineral oil is everywhere.

[@harrywolf825]

does mineral oil alone kill the bees, and does it stress the bees out at all

[@harrywolf825]

also why is synthetic bad, does it hurt the bees (Srry im new to this)

[@mrmolasses5366]

whats synthetic thing are you talking about

[@mtnmyke]

Studies shows that fogging essential oil doesn't work on controlling tracheal or varroa mites. Reason being that the essential oils need to be fed to the larvae being invested with the mites. The essential oils, in high concentrations, will actually keep the female varroa from being able to lay eggs. In lower doses, it will slow or hinder the development of her eggs. We all know that if we can hinder the development and bee hatches before the mite eggs can hatch and feed, they will die. As such, essential oil usage stops or severely interrupts the breeding cycle of the mites. The mites DO NOT die when simply exposed to the oils as in this video and studies, that I've found, have been unable to prove that fogging does anything. Best method? Mix up a batch of honey emulsified with one or more of tea tree, peppermint, spearmint, wintergreen at a rate of about 20 drops per quart or 80 per gallon. (FBM has a video on emulsifying oils into feed). Then feed this directly to the bees. This feed will be taken by, or passed to, the nurse bees who will then add it to the cells with the larvae. This delivery system is the only scientifically proven method for using essential oil in mite treatment. Any scientist has an open mind. Anyone have links to studies otherwise?

[@tch450r]

Interesting Info Michael, I have just a few comments... I don't know that Ive heard that fogging is effective at eradicating mites, rather it's an effective mite treatment. As you state above, if it inhibits mites from laying eggs/hatching the mites will naturally decrease in numbers till there aren't any left. in addition to inhibiting the mite's breeding cycle, I have heard that the mineral oil in fog form attaches to the mites and inhibits their respiration. You ask for scientific proof, I have none, I am a first year bee keeper and am trying this method out, based on information provided by experienced bee keepers I figured it was at least worth a try. You do say feeding oils to bees in a honey mixture has been scientifically proven to be effective, however you fail to cite your proof... a link or two to these studies would be helpful. It is also my understanding that feeding bees diluted honey was a bad idea, that sugar syrup is far better, therefore your method of treating for mites might need some tweaking. Over all good info, thanks for posting, if fogging proves to be ineffective I may look into your method more, but for now, I'll give the fogging method a try.

[@jamesshrum3755]

Maybe sugar syrup with oils? Worth a try.

[@andrewrodriguez7310]

@@tch450r Hi, I'm curious how the fogging went and/or if you tried the essential oils? I just lost my first hive but never treated for vorroa. I'm having another go with a second hive and need to find something that works, preferably natural.

[@tch450r]

@@andrewrodriguez7310 Unfortunately I had to sell my two hives one year after getting them due to allergy reactions. I can tell you this though, my hives did well they were heavy with honey at the end of the summer. I took them to a storage facility for the winter, when I got them back in the spring they were active and ready to go. It was then that I had to sell them off. I am not completely sure how effective the fogging was, but I was happy with the healthy hives. hope this helps.

[@andrewrodriguez7310]

@@tch450r Thanks for the reply. Speaking of reactions. I don't think it's necessarily the dangerous kind but I'm honestly surprised how much my arms, face etc swells up like crazy when I'm stung by honey bees. And I'm not really allergic to anything out of the ordinary. I've been stung by yellow jackets, swasps, mud daubers, you name it and it only leaves a small raised white spot at the bite area but not these bad ass honey bees! lol

[@fineshooter]

there are several l brands to chose from' Don

[@UnDaoDu]

How about tea tree oil?

[@slightlystooopid420]

How do you treat for tracheal mites??

[@fineshooter]

thanks I will do a study on it. Don

[@humpbackhowler3466]

It is hard for me to decide on watching FatBeeMan vids or Fox News.

[@mikeonfreeserve2926]

No fake bees with Fat Bee Man 😉

[@lokesh303101]

Wintergreen oil.

[@fineshooter]

small cell bee don't get tracheal mites,tracheal mite can't get in the trachea of a small cell bee. Don

[@jonathanwalker6521]

anything menthol will run off mosquitoes too. uhmmmm

[@dallassmith1006]

Does fogging and oils alter the taste of the honey in any way?

[@fineshooter]

we used it for yrs no problems

[@محمدنصر-ع5ل]

خصارمفاملص مثقفون د 5 😥😈😃😃😂😆😯😴

[@kevinjackson1840]

don here in middle California it is 27 this morning great video will try this next week